WWI Digest 3210 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Scale Models RIP by Crawford Neil 2) Rib tapes by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" 3) Plain Text Test by Brent Theobald 4) RE: Plain Text Test by Crawford Neil 5) Re: Scale Models RIP by David Fleming 6) Re: Rib tapes by David Fleming 7) Re: Rib tapes by "Lance Krieg" 8) Re: Scale Models RIP by "Hans Trauner" 9) Re: PART Gotha set by Karen Rychlewski 10) Mr Kit PC-10 by David Fleming 11) Re: Plain Text Test by MAnde72343@aol.com 12) Re: Scale Models RIP by RadspadMike@netscape.net 13) Re: Scale Models RIP by "Michael Kendix" 14) Re: Taube by "Jim Landon" 15) The last military will of Manfred von Richthofen by "Gaston Graf" 16) Re: Mr Kit PC-10 by "Steven Schofield" 17) Re: Mylar by "Jim Landon" 18) RE: Mylar by "Jim Landon" 19) RE: Mylar by "Jim Landon" 20) Re: Mr Kit PC-10 by "TOM PLESHA" 21) Re: Scale Models RIP by "Jim Landon" 22) Re: Taube by "TOM PLESHA" 23) Re: Taube by "Michael Kendix" 24) Re: Taube by "Jim Landon" 25) Re: Kits For Sale by "Dale Beamish" 26) Re: Scale Models RIP by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 27) Re: Scale Models RIP by RadspadMike@netscape.net 28) Bombs Away!! Dave Your N.12 is on the Way by Todd Hayes 29) Salmson 2A2 by MAnde72343@aol.com 30) Re: Salmson 2A2 by "Matt Bittner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:14:49 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Scale Models RIP Message-ID: Yes definitely a shame, I'll lift a cup of tea in their honour. Another good magazine on the way down is Air International, it used to be extremely good when it was called Air Enthusiast, and even for a while when it was called Air International. They lost focus on the enthusiasts and tried to make it a sort of professional airline/millitary pilots journal. Which is all very well, but it doesn't sell. I also heard that the people doing World Air Power Journal are in trouble, not that I care. /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:16:00 -0600 From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" To: "'WWI Modeling Digest'" Subject: Rib tapes Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A249078012ABB61@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com> Greetings, I was planning on using strips of decal paper to simulate rib detail on the 1/48 DH-10 I'm building. From what I've seen on the list, it should work. I'm wondering if I should make the decal strips long enough to apply to both sides at once, wrapping it over the leading edge, or if I should use two pieces each, one strip on the top and then another on the bottom? Does anyone have experience with this? Or am I completely off base? TIA, Ken Zelnick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:21:51 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Plain Text Test Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608E48@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> This message is in MIME format. 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They > lost focus on the enthusiasts and tried to make it a sort of > professional airline/millitary pilots journal. Which is all > very well, but it doesn't sell. > Problem with AI was it was bought by Key (Flypast, Air Forces Monthly), who then had to fit it in with their other publications - result was a decline (IMHO) of the sort of content I wanted. Also, one of Key's first descicions was to drop the modelling column !! Air Enthusiast is still OK, but can be TOO esoteric sometimes, but does often do interesting OT articles > > I also heard that the people doing World Air Power Journal > are in trouble, not that I care. Word is both WAPJ and Wings of Fame are dead, but the US distributer is putting out a new title combining both areas. My favourite general mag is currently Air Pictorial, but I feel even it has declined in the last few months. Best modelling mag in the UK - Model Rail (Buy it every month, and I don't even do railways !!) David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:34:27 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Rib tapes Message-ID: <3AB78693.6142C161@dial.pipex.com> "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" wrote: > Greetings, > > I was planning on using strips of decal paper to simulate rib detail on the > 1/48 DH-10 I'm building. From what I've seen on the list, it should work. > Remember to send a couple of 'in progress' shots to the Giants project !! I should be updating the website in the next day or so - thanks to those who sent me additional content !! My web building skills are increasing exponentially !! D ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:38:40 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Rib tapes Message-ID: Ken is: "... wondering if I should make the decal strips long enough to apply to both sides at once, wrapping it over the leading edge, or if I should use two pieces each, one strip on the top and then another on the bottom?" I've always used two, but am now wondering why the same couldn't be accomplished with one, wrapped around. It would probably make getting the little buggers to go on straight easier, too. I used two because they were pre-painted in slight variants of the upper and lower colors for contrast... but I could have painted them half-and-half, couldn't I? I'm a fool... no wonder it takes me months to accomplish something! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:53:45 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Scale Models RIP Message-ID: <008301c0b15e$53f6cfa0$04a072d4@FRITZweb> > Latest Windsock contains a para that SMI is no longer. RR notes with regret > the demise of a mag that he edited before he set up Alb Prods. Hmmm.. I subscribed SMI since the end of the seventies. BTW I did not get any notice by SMI direct! I saw the end coming. The quality was decreasing since the last three years and when I saw the last issue I thought they can't get worse. The quality of the articles was low, the models shown where unattractive. The last issue had a Me 163 which was unbelievable - my own was better when I used Lindberg's kit when I was 8 years old. Harsh words? Sure. But on the other side: Why did nobody (including me) offer better articles? Better models? Maybe I was angry to see a such good old title die. RIP Hans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:23:41 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: PART Gotha set Message-ID: <3AB7921C.857D9EA9@earthlink.net> Good news about the PART set, and your sample is mouth-watering Just a thought: is there any reason the PART Gotha PE set could not also be used with a Friedrichstaffen G-class bomber? Seems like many, if not all, of the pieces would be identical Dame Karen Witold Kozakiewicz wrote: > Hi. > Last few days I was very busy, and I had very little time to read this > list. First: Welcome Andrei nice to meet you. Dame Karen, your Comic is > masterpiece. Steve AEG looks really interesting, can't wait to see it > finished. > And now something new. I had new Part pe set for Roden Gotha for > testing. I had one weekend free and I decided to test it. here are > results. > http://www.modelarstwo.org.pl/lotnicze/dodatki/part/s72-150_gotha/index.html > I didn't use all parts. Only fuselage interior. > What do you think? > -- > Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:37:13 +0000 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Mr Kit PC-10 Message-ID: <3AB79548.610C9E5B@dial.pipex.com> Has anyone used this shade ? What do you think ? I've just brushed out a sample and it appears VERY light, but other Mr Kit shades I've used have needed a few coats to cover well, so it may darken, but I'm not convinced. Any thoughts ? David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:55:07 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Plain Text Test Message-ID: --part1_d0.130fd0f2.27e8f37b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And a case of Spam to you too, Brent! --part1_d0.130fd0f2.27e8f37b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And a case of Spam to you too, Brent! --part1_d0.130fd0f2.27e8f37b_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:17:56 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Scale Models RIP Message-ID: <25BA6BF8.13C83282.3E0364A1@netscape.net> I let FSM go two years ago, SAM last month and will not renew SAMI (and not due to the recent price increase) when it expires later this year. I'll buy them singly if they have something I want. I'm keeping WWI Aero and Windsock. Otherwise, the expertise of the List, the WWI Modeling site and list members individual sites and links give me more info than I would ever get from the mags. Mike K. Lance wrote: > > When my subscription to FSM runs out, the only modeling mag I'll get will be Windsock. > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:32:05 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Scale Models RIP Message-ID: >From: RadspadMike@netscape.net >Otherwise, the expertise of the List, the WWI Modeling site and list > >members individual sites and links give me more info than I would ever > >get from the mags. Mike: I agree completely. I mainly spend money on the most "direct" reference sources, so if the Datafile is available, I would probably get it. I also have the FMP French, IRAS and A-H tomes, which are really excellent. The only thing I miss about not having a magazine is that you can read it sitting around the house. If you have narrow building tastes, the modelling magazines are not too useful to you. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:32:15 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Taube Message-ID: Tom said: <> Where did you get it? I tried to find one and the price was ludicrous. Jim >From: "TOM PLESHA" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Taube >Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:54:18 -0500 (EST) > >Hi All- >I just received my copy of "Taube, Dove of War" by de Vies. A quick scan >of >it and I think its great book. >Thanks to all who recommended it. No I didn't pay the $7.95 cover price >(ha ha), but its well worth it. >Thanks again for the recommendation >Tom > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:36:18 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: The last military will of Manfred von Richthofen Message-ID: Dear friends, you might be interested to see a scan of the original handwriting of Manfred von Richthofens last will which I just uploaded to the Manfred von Richthofen section of my website. Also new is the separation of his brother Bolkos report about the exhumation into 5 pages now, which makes loading and navigation easier. I added two new pictures to this report, one being of the very first grave of MvR and the other being of the funeral procession in Berlin 1925. As always your critics and suggestions are heartily welcome. Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:51:17 -0000 From: "Steven Schofield" To: Subject: Re: Mr Kit PC-10 Message-ID: <001b01c0b177$77140840$0ba493c3@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Fleming" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 5:45 PM Subject: Mr Kit PC-10 > Has anyone used this shade ? What do you think ? > > I've just brushed out a sample and it appears VERY light, but other Mr > Kit shades I've used have needed a few coats to cover well, so it may > darken, but I'm not convinced. Any thoughts ? I love it - I'm using it on the Pup for the Sopwith cookup. The shade did seem light, but several thin brushcoats later, it tallies well with the real thing. Of course, 'the real thing' is the modern finish applied to the Pups in the Shuttleworth Collection and the RAF Museum in Hendon. I say try it, you might be surprised at how our colour vision can be so deceiving. Scho http://www.ww1.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:43:35 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Mylar Message-ID: SP said: <> Well, at least we now know of at least ONE person that hasn't been following my Salmson model. ;-) Jim >From: "Steven M.Perry" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Mylar >Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:28:40 -0500 (EST) > >I've stumbled on what is turning into another miracle substance. Some years >ago I bought a pack of what I thought to be friskit paper. It turned out to >be sheets of translucent mylar. Gotta be 5 thou or less. No sticky on it. > >First I used it to trace the rib stations, then white glued it to a piece >of >cardboard (came in an order from A/G). This I punched holes in and used as >a >jig for "sewing" the rib detail. No need to drill the mylar, punches easily >but is strong enough not to yield to the thread like the cardboard alone >when you pull it tight. > >Next use was to scribe parallel lines right next to each other.When turned >over it had a perfect corregated surface that goes between the root and >nacelle on the lower wing of the AEG. > >Finally I used it to trace the stab & elevator off the plans. I just taped >it face down on a piece of card and burnished the back and it transferred >the drawing directly to the card. > >Haven't tried it, but this stuff might work well as a skinning material in >a >St. H style wing. Trace the wing pattern directly from the drawing. Takes a >scribed line well and is easier to bend than card. With a clear plastic >wing >blank, you could get truly translucent CDL. > >sp > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:00:04 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Mylar Message-ID: Neil said: <> And also for the cowling panels between the pilot's cockpit and the observer's cockpit, and maybe lots more places. I love the stuff. It's what we used to use for pencil and ink engineering drawings before computers. I started using it like SP said, for making patterns etc. Then I decided it would also be cool as a covering material. I told my buddy at the museum and he said it was a good material and he'd used it himself. Jim >From: Crawford Neil >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: RE: Mylar >Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 05:16:23 -0500 (EST) > >I think Jim Landon is using mylar for wing-covering on his Salmson. >You can see it on his latest updates. >/Neil _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:03:19 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Mylar Message-ID: <> YES <> YES <> IDUNNO Jim >From: "dfernet0" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: RE: Mylar >Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 05:21:11 -0500 (EST) > >Wing covering or for cowl panel templates? Anyway, he uses it a LOT. Can >Mylar be heat molded? >D. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Crawford Neil >To: Multiple recipients of list >Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 7:16 AM >Subject: RE: Mylar > > > > I think Jim Landon is using mylar for wing-covering on his Salmson. > > You can see it on his latest updates. > > /Neil > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:13:11 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Mr Kit PC-10 Message-ID: <003101c0b17a$311414e0$3d444c0c@tom> I'm still waiting for mine from PAC. I'll comment after use. Tom -- Original Message ----- From: "David Fleming" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:46 PM Subject: Mr Kit PC-10 > Has anyone used this shade ? What do you think ? > > I've just brushed out a sample and it appears VERY light, but other Mr > Kit shades I've used have needed a few coats to cover well, so it may > darken, but I'm not convinced. Any thoughts ? > > David > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:14:24 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Scale Models RIP Message-ID: Lance said: <> Well, my FSM already ran out and I decided not to renew. Where do I sign up for this Windsock thing? Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:17:52 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Taube Message-ID: <004301c0b17a$d824f100$3d444c0c@tom> Jim- I found it on e-bay. This type of book goes for , generally, $50.00 to $90.00, plus shipping and ins. I have picked up a few, what I consider, good books in this range. I've also lost a few I really wanted. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Landon" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Taube > Tom said: <> > > Where did you get it? I tried to find one and the price was ludicrous. > > Jim > > >From: "TOM PLESHA" > >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: Taube > >Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:54:18 -0500 (EST) > > > >Hi All- > >I just received my copy of "Taube, Dove of War" by de Vies. A quick scan > >of > >it and I think its great book. > >Thanks to all who recommended it. No I didn't pay the $7.95 cover price > >(ha ha), but its well worth it. > >Thanks again for the recommendation > >Tom > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:30:34 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Taube Message-ID: >From: "TOM PLESHA" > >Jim- >I found it on e-bay. This type of book goes for , generally, $50.00 to >$90.00, plus shipping and ins. >I have picked up a few, what I consider, good books in this range. I've >also lost a few I really wanted. TOM: $50 is really high to pay for the Taube book. I think a better strategy than e-bay is to search biliofind or whatever it is called, and look for book sellers who are selling this item. I bought mine about a year ago from a UK book selller for under $20 incl. S&H. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:40:01 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Taube Message-ID: Tom said: <> I'm not into the ebay thing. I tried it once a year ago and had bad luck and realized I didn't know what I was doing. I should try again. I see that you can now state your max bid and ebay will bid on your behalf up to your limit. Is that what you do? I tried to get the Taube book through Amazon.com and they wanted something like $90 or more, which was too rich for my blood. I have an unbuilt Taube kit on the shelf but I could always just build it straight out of the box some weekend. If I had reference material it would take a year. Ignorance is bliss. I'd be done with the Salmson if I had just stuck with the external 3-view in 'Scale Aircraft Drawings Vol I WWI'. Jim >From: "TOM PLESHA" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Taube >Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:21:04 -0500 (EST) > >Jim- >I found it on e-bay. This type of book goes for , generally, $50.00 to >$90.00, plus shipping and ins. >I have picked up a few, what I consider, good books in this range. I've >also lost a few I really wanted. >Tom >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jim Landon" >To: "Multiple recipients of list" >Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 2:36 PM >Subject: Re: Taube > > > > Tom said: <Vies.>> > > > > Where did you get it? I tried to find one and the price was ludicrous. > > > > Jim > > > > >From: "TOM PLESHA" > > >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > > >To: Multiple recipients of list > > >Subject: Taube > > >Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:54:18 -0500 (EST) > > > > > >Hi All- > > >I just received my copy of "Taube, Dove of War" by de Vies. A quick >scan > > >of > > >it and I think its great book. > > >Thanks to all who recommended it. No I didn't pay the $7.95 cover >price > > >(ha ha), but its well worth it. > > >Thanks again for the recommendation > > >Tom > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:39:53 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: Kits For Sale Message-ID: <00ba01c0b17d$ecd3b660$4e2fb8a1@darcy> Tom I apologize for the delay getting the kits out to you but I was called away with work. Everything will be out by the weekend at the latest. Please let me know when it arrives? Thanks Dale ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:22:26 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Scale Models RIP Message-ID: >I let FSM go two years ago, SAM last month and will not renew SAMI (and >not due to the recent price increase) when it expires later this year. >I'll buy them singly if they have something I want. I'm keeping WWI Aero >and Windsock. Otherwise, the expertise of the List, the WWI Modeling site >and list members individual sites and links give me more info than I would >ever get from the mags. I'm getting to this myself. LEt my FSM subscription go last year but still end up picking it up for want of something to read whilst on the throne ;-) Pick up SAMI when it has something OT but that's getting increasingly rare. I think I'll just bite the bullet and ask for a Windsock subscription for my Birthday (tho it will like be a to me from me present). Reading this list I can't quite believe I haven't subscribed to WS yet. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:07:57 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Scale Models RIP Message-ID: <3AFB3442.13FE693B.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Again we agree, Michael. I have the FMP books you mention (the A-H tome is on the way and I don't want to talk about how much I paid for it!), also Bruce's "British Aeroplanes, 1914-18", which pretty much takes care of the heavyweights. Of course the DFs and several AirBritain "Files". German aircraft are pretty well covered in the DFs, Specials and several smaller books. If I could identify and find some definitive and comprehensive works on OT Italian aircraft and operations in English, I'd feel that I had a good basic reference library. Any suggestions about OT Italian subjects, anyone? TIA, Mike K. mkendix@hotmail.com wrote: > I agree completely.  I mainly spend money on the most "direct" reference > sources, so if the Datafile is available, I would probably get it. I also > have the FMP French, IRAS and A-H tomes, which are really excellent. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:08:04 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Bombs Away!! Dave Your N.12 is on the Way Message-ID: <20010320210804.13499.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Dave, It went off today. Just watch the sky for the B.52. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:33:26 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Salmson 2A2 Message-ID: --part1_b0.11f51f8e.27e926a6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Out of curiosity, I decided to start checking and see if there were any Salmsons in museums or whatever. I used the list links as a start, and branched out all over the net, and came up with nothing. (BTW Jim, of seven listings for the Salmson 2A2 web search, four are yours). Does anyone know of a surviving Salmson? Merrill --part1_b0.11f51f8e.27e926a6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Out of curiosity, I decided to start checking and see if there were any
Salmsons in museums or whatever. I used the list links as a start, and
branched out all over the net, and came up with nothing. (BTW Jim, of seven
listings for the Salmson 2A2 web search, four are yours). Does anyone know of
a surviving Salmson?
Merrill --part1_b0.11f51f8e.27e926a6_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:39:08 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Salmson 2A2 Message-ID: <3AB773E40002D6D7@mail01.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail01.san.yahoo.com) You really need to turn MIME/HTML off. Speaking of which, tomorrow I'll post screen shots to the site for Outlook and Outlook Express. "Out of curiosity, I decided to start checking and see if there were any Salmsons in museums or whatever. I used the list links as a start, and branched out all over the net, and came up with nothing. (BTW Jim, of seven listings for the Salmson 2A2 web search, four are yours). Does anyone know of a surviving Salmson?" Doesn't Jim link to the one in Japan? I think this may be the only one left. Matt Bittner _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3210 **********************