WWI Digest 3209 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Veeday models on ebay by "Ray Boorman" 2) Scratch Magic/Jinx by MAnde72343@aol.com 3) Re: Word on the Streets. by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 4) Re: Heller Spad 7 by KarrArt@aol.com 5) RE: Scratch Magic/Jinx by Shane Weier 6) RE: Word on the Streets. by Shane Weier 7) RE: Scratch Magic/Jinx by "Ray Boorman" 8) Re: Scratch Magic/Jinx by MAnde72343@aol.com 9) RE: Scratch Magic/Jinx by Shane Weier 10) Re: PART Gotha set by Witold Kozakiewicz 11) W20 colors by Andreikor@aol.com 12) : Word on the Streets. by "Sandy Adam" 13) RE: Mylar by Crawford Neil 14) Re: New upload by Witold Kozakiewicz 15) RE: Mylar by "dfernet0" 16) Re: Giants Project by David Fleming 17) RE: : Word on the Streets. by Crawford Neil 18) RE: Heller Spad 7 by Crawford Neil 19) RE: Heller Spad 7 by "dfernet0" 20) RE: Brandenberg W-20 & naval lozenge by Volker Haeusler 21) RE: Brandenberg W-20 & naval lozenge by "dfernet0" 22) Boring meetings , was: Heller Spad 7 by Crawford Neil 23) tamiya "plans" by "Bucky" 24) RE: Brandenberg W-20 & naval lozenge by "Ray Boorman" 25) Online Build Ideas? by Brent Theobald 26) Scale Models RIP by "Sandy Adam" 27) RE: Brandenberg W-20 & naval lozenge by "Lance Krieg" 28) Re: Word on the Streets. by "DAVID BURKE" 29) Re: : Word on the Streets. by "DAVID BURKE" 30) Re: Scale Models RIP by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 31) Re: Scale Models RIP by "Lance Krieg" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:18:17 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: "Wwi@Wwi-Models. Org" Subject: Veeday models on ebay Message-ID: I just noticed a bunch of Veeday correct scale models on ebay if anyone is interested. Just search for Veeday. No not mine but I will be bidding on a BE2c to build btw. As long as it doesn't get stupid price wise that is. No Bristol Fighters though sigh ;( Ray ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:30:29 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Scratch Magic/Jinx Message-ID: --part1_c9.e2c83e5.27e85305_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DB, don't worry too much about it, if it happens, Eduard has been pretty slow about their OT offerings, remember the Pfalz DIII and the Sopwith Camel? Your Gotha will be done, and widely admired for years before the kit hits the shelves (I built my Glencoe Pfalz while I was waiting for Eduard to release theirs, and had it at two shows, and in the mags before anyone saw the Eduard) Merrill --part1_c9.e2c83e5.27e85305_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DB, don't worry too much about it, if it happens, Eduard has been pretty slow
about their OT offerings, remember the Pfalz DIII and the Sopwith Camel? Your
Gotha will be done, and widely admired for years before the kit hits the
shelves (I built my Glencoe Pfalz while I was waiting for Eduard to release
theirs, and had it at two shows, and in the mags before anyone saw the Eduard)
Merrill --part1_c9.e2c83e5.27e85305_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:40:56 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: Subject: Re: Word on the Streets. Message-ID: <001801c0b108$e69bd180$7f01010a@jaring.my> Shane said: > On the other hand, if you're a stubborn sod, you'll finish it anyway and do > it better than Eduard - thereby becoming a respected member of the "F*** IT" > chapter of the ISBS > > Shane And then you'll go to the first show and find at least 50 people who will say: "Nice Eduard kit you did, and so easy to build that anyone can do it" Volker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:36:06 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Heller Spad 7 Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/01 8:39:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, modeleral@up-link.net writes: << >I think also Revell had an entire armor line in 1/40 didn't they? Maybe a >Sherman and some other things? Yeah, they did about ten or so different military models, all reissues of Adams Action Kits. Adams also did a Cessna YH-41 in 1/40 and Revell's X-5 is 1/40. Including some Artiplast aircraft there have actually been a fair number of models done in the ever-popular 1/40 scale........ ;-p Al >> Thought so- I know I built the Sherman when I was kid- I marveled at the detail on the figures- little bitty atom size sargent stripes on the sleeves......I left the model on dash of the car- I found out early what happens to styrene in a car window. RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:48:52 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: RE: Scratch Magic/Jinx Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748DF2@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Merrill, > DB, don't worry too much about it, if it happens, Eduard has > been pretty slow > about their OT offerings, remember the Pfalz DIII and the > Sopwith Camel? Your > Gotha will be done, and widely admired for years before the > kit hits the > shelves (I built my Glencoe Pfalz while I was waiting for > Eduard to release > theirs, and had it at two shows, and in the mags before > anyone saw the Eduard) Really, this is an old and well worn gripe with little substance in fact. Yes, the Pfalz was slow - because Eduard were let down by the original patternmaker - but we benefitted because it became an LTM model. The Camel *is* later than we've been told, but virtually all the other kits appeared when they said they would, or within a few months, which is better than most if not all other manufacturers. Kinda amazed that we're ready to trash Eduard over the delays in releasing a *rumour* Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:50:05 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: RE: Word on the Streets. Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748DF3@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Volker, > And then you'll go to the first show and find at least 50 > people who will > say: "Nice Eduard kit you did, and so easy to build that > anyone can do it" Not in my experience. They say "Is that the kit? Not very good is it?" Aughhhhh! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:48:07 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: Scratch Magic/Jinx Message-ID: Merrill and especially DB, the Gotha will appear in direct inverse proportion to the amount of effort put into the scratch build. I bet there is some mathematical constant to calculate exactly to the minute the release time of the Eduard Gotha G.Vb after David finishes the last bit of rigging ;0). Something about inverse proportions and other stuff I tried to sleep through at school. As to the Pfalz and the to be received Eduard Camel, there are and were other models around so no full scratchbuild could trigger "Scratchbuilts Inverse Proportion" theorem into action. Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of > MAnde72343@aol.com > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:36 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Scratch Magic/Jinx > DB, don't worry too much about it, if it happens, Eduard has been > pretty slow > about their OT offerings, remember the Pfalz DIII and the Sopwith > Camel? Your > Gotha will be done, and widely admired for years before the kit hits the > shelves (I built my Glencoe Pfalz while I was waiting for Eduard > to release > theirs, and had it at two shows, and in the mags before anyone > saw the Eduard) > Merrill > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:59:08 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Scratch Magic/Jinx Message-ID: --part1_ab.7eba268.27e859bc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Shane I'm not trashing Eduard, I understand they can't have everything ready in months, in fact, given the nature of eastern European finance they have done superbly. I have never been diappointed by one of their kits, I usually buy several of each. I'm just stating that their development cycle from announcement to product is usually a good whle, and from 'rumor' (market feeler?) to product (the Camel) can be several years. Merrill --part1_ab.7eba268.27e859bc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Shane I'm not trashing Eduard, I understand they can't have everything ready
in months, in fact, given the nature of eastern European finance they have
done superbly.  I have never been diappointed by one of their kits, I usually
buy several of each. I'm just stating that their development cycle from
announcement to product is usually a good whle, and from 'rumor' (market
feeler?) to product (the Camel) can be several years.
Merrill --part1_ab.7eba268.27e859bc_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:07:28 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: RE: Scratch Magic/Jinx Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748DF4@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> > I'm just stating that their development > cycle from announcement to product is usually a good whle, and from > 'rumor' (market > feeler?) to product (the Camel) can be several years. Sorry then, I though you were on about the dreaded "Release Date" which in my experience is more likely the wet dream of some salesman at the distributor than anything that a model manufacturer thought to advertise. That is, there's a difference between what you meant - "We're going to make a Nie-11" and what is often trotted out against virtually every maker... "Eduard have said they're going to make one. Surely that means *this* year or why tell us. Damn, how come it isn't out yet. F^%$&^%$&ing Eduard, they *promised*" I used to be guilty of this myself. The realisation that I can't live long enough to build everything I'd like to build, and that every new kit removes a chance to do it my way, has made me a lot more patient Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:14:43 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: PART Gotha set Message-ID: <3AB71F83.42C4224E@bg.am.lodz.pl> Thanks for all comments. Today PART site would start (http://www.part.pl/) We want to show all sets released by PART and some kits built with them (like my Gotha) Official distributor of PART is Jadar http:/www.jadar.com.pl/, but I can get some pe sets at lower price. Let me know off-list if you are interested. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 05:06:01 EST From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: W20 colors Message-ID: <104.7dedb1.27e88589@aol.com> Jon, According to everything I've seen, the undersides of the flying surfaces should be clear-doped linen, the fuselage sides, bottom, floats and struts should be grey. Check rare kit sellers or even Ebay for the Merlin kit, or better yet, try ordering the Czechmaster resin from Aviation Usk... Merlin's metal parts are not that great. Hope this helps! Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:59:52 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: : Word on the Streets. Message-ID: <002201c0b125$ca575040$23e8b094@sandyada> > ... he tells me that the rumour is that Eduard might be planning to do > a Gotha in 1/48th scale. Going by lead times on previous Eduards, that's probably a few years away yet even if they do decide to do it though. Still, the fact that Eduard are thinking of future WWI subjects after Camel, Bebe, SE5a etc is great news. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:10:54 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Mylar Message-ID: I think Jim Landon is using mylar for wing-covering on his Salmson. You can see it on his latest updates. /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:13:20 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New upload Message-ID: <3AB72D40.20CB214A@bg.am.lodz.pl> Matt Bittner napisa³(a): > > > Just uploaded images of Karen's Dolphin. Superb job!!! > > And right after I sent that, she sends images of a Bat Boat. > Excellent! That is beautiful. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:15:09 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Mylar Message-ID: <007e01c0b126$a4f706a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Wing covering or for cowl panel templates? Anyway, he uses it a LOT. Can Mylar be heat molded? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 7:16 AM Subject: RE: Mylar > I think Jim Landon is using mylar for wing-covering on his Salmson. > You can see it on his latest updates. > /Neil > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:19:56 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Giants Project Message-ID: <3AB72ECC.EF4B7BBB@dial.pipex.com> Shane & Lorna Jenkins wrote: > Ray Boorman wrote: > > > > Can 1/72 scale be considered for the site, or is this really Giant in all > > respects? > > > > Ray > > As for giant being only 1/48 & bigger - well that would let me get out > of doing my 1/72 0/400 & Staaken Floatplane ;-þ > > StY No, 1/72 (and 1/144th, and 1/700th !1) are alll acceptable - the 1:1 scale ones are the giants !! (though I'll put a link to JL's amazing Salmson) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:27:54 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: : Word on the Streets. Message-ID: But why another Gotha, when all we need is Spads! /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandy Adam [mailto:cbbs@almac.co.uk] > Sent: den 20 mars 2001 11:14 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: : Word on the Streets. > > > > ... he tells me that the rumour is that Eduard might be > planning to do > > a Gotha in 1/48th scale. > > Going by lead times on previous Eduards, that's probably a > few years away > yet even if they do decide to do it though. > Still, the fact that Eduard are thinking of future WWI > subjects after Camel, > Bebe, SE5a etc is great news. > Sandy > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:37:23 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Heller Spad 7 Message-ID: During a boring meeting this morning I got to thinking of future 1/36 projects. IMO 1/36 is the only way to go, for avoiding the scratch-jinx. I got thinking about the Heller Spad 7, if you filled that with plastic-padding it should be just about right as a male-form for a 1/36 Spad 7. I worked out that 1/36 would be a couple of mm wider than 1/40 scale. You could probably use the wings as cores for the Peter Leonard/Harry Woodman method, and maybe some of the bits and pieces are overscale for 1/40 so perfect for 1/36. Is this feasible? /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:55:13 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Heller Spad 7 Message-ID: <00c501c0b12c$3db01080$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ah, Neil! Meetings are also for me the best fuel for creativity... of course unrelated with the topic discussed on the meeting! I just have to hide the sketch pad from the view of others, so they won't see that I take notes... on fuselage detailing, scratchbuilt undercarriages or another list of "wanted" kits! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 7:43 AM Subject: RE: Heller Spad 7 > > During a boring meeting this morning I got to thinking of > future 1/36 projects. IMO 1/36 is the only way to go, for > avoiding the scratch-jinx. I got thinking about the Heller > Spad 7, if you filled that with plastic-padding it should > be just about right as a male-form for a 1/36 Spad 7. > I worked out that 1/36 would be a couple of mm wider than > 1/40 scale. You could probably use the wings as cores for > the Peter Leonard/Harry Woodman method, and maybe some of > the bits and pieces are overscale for 1/40 so perfect for > 1/36. > Is this feasible? > /Neil > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 14:55:09 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Brandenberg W-20 & naval lozenge Message-ID: Karen said: "Reference Material: WWI Aero No. 110, July, 1986, had a review of the Airframe kit, and Windsock No. 6, 1991, had a review of the Lone Star kit. Also, Windsock No. 2, 1989, was a special 'seaplane' issue and had a photo or two of the W.20 and also a nicely done model. WWI Aero, No. 119, April, 1988, has an article by Peter Grosz titled "German Submarine Aircraft of World War One" of which half is devoted to the W.20--pictures of all three built. I can send you copies, but not until mid-April... Dame Karen" Add to this Air Enthusiast no 33, p 1: "A study in Contrast", also by PM Grosz (more or less a rerun of the WW I Aero article, 8 photos of the W 20) and Karl PAwlas "Deutsche Flugzeuge 1914-1918" with 7 photos (photos no 242 to 248), most of them a repeat of the AE photos. A word on naval lozenge (Also true for the Dornier D I Hans was wondering about a few days ago): There is an interesting article by DS Abbott on Naval lozenge in OTF 9/2, p. 168 where he claims that the printed fabric was actually *irregular* (that is, not all sides of the hexagons had the same length). Too, he identifies the way the bolts were attached to each other. Highly interesting, and looking on photos there´s a point in it, but if true at least those naval lozenges I have would all be wrong. Any additional information on that one? Volker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:32:45 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Brandenberg W-20 & naval lozenge Message-ID: <017301c0b131$7c253160$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> IIRC, in the book "The Master Scratch Builders" there was one on the last section of the book. D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:59:17 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Boring meetings , was: Heller Spad 7 Message-ID: I sometimes run a little system I invented for boring meetings. I think of a fun a/c, then I give it points in 4 criteria 1. How much work - 1 point = scratch to 5 points for a quickie 2. My points - How much do I like it 1-5 points. 3. Judges points - How much do I think the judges will like it 1-5 points 4. References - Availability of ref. material 1-5 points. Then I add up the points, and work out an average, if it's over 3.75 I can build it. Then I forget all about it and build whatever I like anyway. Any other good ideas for boring meetings? /Neil > > Ah, Neil! > Meetings are also for me the best fuel for creativity... of > course unrelated > with the topic discussed on the meeting! > I just have to hide the sketch pad from the view of others, > so they won't > see that I take notes... on fuselage detailing, scratchbuilt > undercarriages > or another list of "wanted" kits! > D. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:17:04 +0900 From: "Bucky" To: Subject: tamiya "plans" Message-ID: <001901c0b148$9d43c5c0$0e4207d3@compaqcomputer> Sorry, this is very ot and wacky scale to boot, but couldn't resist. I was at Tamiya headquarters last week on biz and saw the chief mold cutter putting the finishing touches on a 1/32 Zero-sen canopy master. Could it be that Tamiya is trying to bring about a revival of Godzilla scale? Now if we could just convince them to put out a line of OT material in same... Stranger things have happened. In the meantime, I'm joining in the communal prayer to the 1/48 Gotha Gods and facing in the general direction of Prague tonite (I think I'm facing in the opposite direction to you guys, though). Bucky p.s. Haven't those Eduard Gotha rumors been around for like two or three years now? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:15:56 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: Brandenberg W-20 & naval lozenge Message-ID: Diego is as usual correct a 1/24th W20 to be exact. Beautiful model and photographs as well. MSB has a few OT or near OT models in it. I'm not even including a certain Robert (broken finger's) pair of Giant's. > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of > dfernet0 > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 3:39 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Brandenberg W-20 & naval lozenge > > > IIRC, in the book "The Master Scratch Builders" there was one on the last > section of the book. > D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:20:40 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Online Build Ideas? Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608E44@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0B151.52E60ED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Howdy, As a lot of you know I'm building the review area of the Roll Models web site. I really like the idea of online builds. The current online build (ot 1/32 A-10) is almost done and we're looking for the next project to build online. Any ideas? Contact me at brent@rollmodels.com. Let's not clutter up the list with this. 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RR notes with regret the demise of a mag that he edited before he set up Alb Prods. There is always the possibility that somebody may acquire the title but who knows. Sic Transit Gloria Mundi Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:43:54 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: Brandenberg W-20 & naval lozenge Message-ID: Volker mentions: "There is an interesting article by DS Abbott on Naval lozenge in OTF 9/2, p. 168 where he claims that the printed fabric was actually *irregular*" The piece of fabric he discusses was skewed about 5 degrees out of square. Was this a deliberate act or a momentary glitch in dying that particular piece of fabric? Looking at photos, I would say that DS Abbott has come across an odd piece; the fabric on the planes looks very regular, and matches neatly between bolts. FWIW Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:38:18 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Word on the Streets. Message-ID: <004f01c0b154$b18c3920$71101a3f@oemcomputer> > > And then you'll go to the first show and find at least 50 people who will > say: "Nice Eduard kit you did, and so easy to build that anyone can do it" > > Volker > oh my god.... DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:42:54 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: : Word on the Streets. Message-ID: <005001c0b154$b26e0da0$71101a3f@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 4:32 AM Subject: RE: : Word on the Streets. > But why another Gotha, when all we need is Spads! > /Neil > A-freaking-men!!! A WHOLE nice line of SPADS! the VII - of course - and some 2-seaters! And eduard COULD do a Fokker D.VII that would have more of a compromise between the poor outlines but nice surface detail of the Monogram kit and the decent detail but slab-sided DML kit. And 4 different styles of louvers! DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 02:54:17 -0800 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Scale Models RIP Message-ID: <3AB88859.9A61A22E@tac.com.au> Sandy Adam wrote: > > Latest Windsock contains a para that SMI is no longer. RR notes with regret > the demise of a mag that he edited before he set up Alb Prods. > There is always the possibility that somebody may acquire the title but who > knows. > Sic Transit Gloria Mundi > Sandy Hi, Yeah, I'll lift a glass of single malt to the sad news of the demise of the world's best general modelling magazine. Especially after watching it decline over the past few years :-(. Moreso the pity that there's no commercial general modelling magazine out there that's comparable to it :-(. StY ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:07:09 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Scale Models RIP Message-ID: Shane and Sandy lament on the passing of Scale Models, and Shane notes: "...after watching it decline over the past few years." 'Twas ever thus. It seems like most magazines start promisingly and head down hill. Issue 1 of Fine Scale Modeler had articles by Shep Paine, Steve Zaloga, and a number of excellent modellers. Now it contains... well, nothing. When my subscription to FSM runs out, the only modeling mag I'll get will be Windsock. Lance ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3209 **********************