WWI Digest 3197 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Jenny References by "David Calhoun" 2) The Vintage Aviation Historical Foundation Open House by "Jim Landon" 3) Re: Jenny combatant role by MAnde72343@aol.com 4) Re: Jenny References by "DAVID BURKE" 5) Re: Jenny combatant role by "DAVID BURKE" 6) Re: Obvious Datafile Omissions by "mdf@mars.ark.com" 7) Re: Jenny combatant role by MAnde72343@aol.com 8) Zimmerman Letter, was Jenny combat role by MAnde72343@aol.com 9) RE: Jenny combatant role by Volker Haeusler 10) Re: Fokker Team WAS: Eduard Pup PE by RadspadMike@netscape.net 11) RE: Obvious Datafile Omissions by Todd Hayes 12) Re: Jenny References + history by David Fleming 13) Re: Merlin kits by Todd Hayes 14) Re: Merlin kits by Todd Hayes 15) Re: british pushers by RadspadMike@netscape.net 16) Dragon Fokker D VII by Volker Haeusler 17) Pink rib tapes by "Steven M.Perry" 18) Re: Merlin kits by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 19) Re: Obvious Datafile Omissions by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 20) Roland D VIb "7502" colours by Volker Haeusler 21) Re: The Vintage Aviation Historical Foundation Open House by RadspadMike@netscape.net 22) Re: Merlin kits by "Michael Kendix" 23) Obvious Datafile Ommissions by MAnde72343@aol.com 24) Re: Dragon Fokker D VII by RadspadMike@netscape.net 25) Re: Woodman Reprint by "TOM PLESHA" 26) Re: Jenny combatant role by "Lee J. Mensinger" 27) Re: Pink rib tapes by "TOM PLESHA" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:47:33 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Jenny References Message-ID: <001901c0ae84$3de35a80$d4d1fc40@oemcomputer> The old 1950's Lafayette Escadrille movie starring Tab hunter shows the Penguins and training school for the American pilots. You also get to see a young Clint Eastwood as one of the students. Interesting, but beyond that training scene the movie has nothing to do with the Lafayette Escadrille. Quite a crappy movie, the pilot in training goes AWOL to be with the women he falls in love with, even killing a French Poliu on the way. He is eventually able to rejoin the US Air corps and is seen flying a Nieuport 28 at the end of the movie. Even the Young Indiana Jones movie had more to do with te Escadrille than this self titled movie. Dave Calhoun-----Original Message----- From: KarrArt@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, March 16, 2001 9:44 AM Subject: Re: Jenny References >In a message dated 3/16/01 8:04:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, >MAnde72343@aol.com writes: > ><< > Has anyone ever seen a photo of the French trainers, the Bleriot Penguin or > Roller? Cecil Lewis, in "Sagittarius Rising" stated that he was sent to the > front, during the Somme, with just 21 hours of flying time in his logbook. > Merrill >> > >Yeah- there's quite a few Bleriot Penguin shots out there- pretty much a >regular ol' Bleriot with a few rib's worth of span chopped off. I might have >dreamed it, but I think there's also movie film of the things in "action" >RK > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:12:22 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: The Vintage Aviation Historical Foundation Open House Message-ID: Has anybody else announced this yet? OPEN HOUSE. See restored WWI planes fly. April 7. Near San Antonio Texas. Many of you know the name Roger Freeman. He restores and builds replicas of WWI aircraft. He restored the Thomas Morse S4C featured at http://1917tommy.freeyellow.com/page29.html He built a Fokker Dr.I Triplane replica in the colors of Lt.d.R. Arthur Rahn, Jasta 19, currently in the U.S. Air Force Museum. They have built/restored other planes and have some under construction now. I'm going to try to go. Jim Landon ************* The Vintage Aviation Historical Foundation will have their Spring 2001 Open House/Membership meeting on Saturday, April 7th at "Old Kingsbury Aerodrome" in Kingsbury, Texas. Cost is $5.00 at the gate for adults. The gates open at 10:00 AM and the flying starts at noon. There will be early aircraft flying, including an original Thomas-Morse S4C Scout, a Bleriot XI and a variety of golden age biplanes. There will be biplane rides for sale, WWI military re-enactors, vintage military vehicles, RC airplanes, and much more! Set aside the day for this important event! Directions: From Houston - drive West on I-10 and exit at FM 1104, Kingsbury, exit #620. Turn right onto FM 1104. Drive approximately 1.5 miles and "Old Kingsbury Aerodrome" will be on the left. >From San Antonio - drive East on I-10 to exit #620, FM 1104. Turn left onto FM 1104. Drive approximately 1.5 miles and "Old Kingsbury Aerodrome" will be on the left. [I inquired and it's about 30 miles from San Antonio to the aerodrome - Jim Landon] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:30:35 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Jenny combatant role Message-ID: <105.580c40.27e3fc1b@aol.com> --part1_105.580c40.27e3fc1b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lee, that's not quite right. The occupation of Veracruz by US Marines earlier, was to keep a shipload of German machine-guns and ammo out of the hands of General Huerta, who was seen as a bloody handed butcher in the US. Villa raided the border town because some there were getting rich selling arms (despite an official embargo) to Carranza, (the guy who replaced Huerta as dictator) who was Villa's enemy, ( although he had been Villa's ally against Huerta, earlier) There were NO "good guys" in the Mexican Civil War, only villains and victims. Merrill --part1_105.580c40.27e3fc1b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lee, that's not quite right. The occupation of Veracruz by US Marines
earlier, was to keep a shipload of German machine-guns and ammo out of the
hands of General Huerta, who was seen as a bloody handed butcher in the US.
Villa raided the border town because some there were getting rich selling
arms (despite an official embargo) to Carranza, (the guy who replaced Huerta
as dictator) who was Villa's enemy, ( although he had been Villa's ally
against Huerta, earlier) There were NO "good guys" in the Mexican Civil War,
only villains and victims.
Merrill
--part1_105.580c40.27e3fc1b_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:57:40 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Jenny References Message-ID: <005d01c0ae74$e7301020$d4121a3f@oemcomputer> > Crawford Neil wrote: > > > But trainers (usually) have boring colour schemes, whereas > > civil aircraft are nice and colourful. I strongly disagree. No offense meant chum, but if you check your references, some of the most attractive and interesting markings were applied to training aircraft of all types. As there was no need to camo the A/C, and since a good, thick decorative coat might slow the plane down a few knots (making it safer for Roger Rookie to fly it), you see this practice alot. DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:56:22 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Jenny combatant role Message-ID: <005c01c0ae74$e6344b00$d4121a3f@oemcomputer> > A portion of the U.S. government activity was intended to prevent further > spread of the German influence on our border during that time period. This is true. I'm sure that there's lots of folks who aren't familiar with the infamous 'Zimmermann Telegram' (or note, or letter). Basically, Billy the Kaiser thought that he could help open a front on the US border with Mexican help. Perhaps this is one reason that alot of Mexican music sounds so German, hmmm? DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:15:56 -0500 From: "mdf@mars.ark.com" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Obvious Datafile Omissions Message-ID: <3AB2ACBC.4CE0020E@mars.ark.com> Caudron G.3/4/5/R.11, Voisin III, Breguet 14, Breguet V...why not a datafile special on French two-seaters? OTOH I'm willing to expand what I've got on the Nieuport 14/15/18/19 into a mini if I could get the pictures (especially of the 18/19...) Speaking of Nieuports - I just added a Dutch 23 and some Swedish 29's wearing unusual markings to my site... MikeF Todd Hayes wrote: > > VOISANS! > > --- Matt Bittner wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:59:02 -0500 (EST), David > > Fleming wrote: > > > > > this is intended to be a fun thread, so let your > > imagination run riot !! > > > > Caudron's, Paul Schmitt's, Nieuport 14, Farman's... > > > > Like you said, anything French. :-) > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:13:24 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Jenny combatant role Message-ID: <3e.8db7769.27e40624@aol.com> --part1_3e.8db7769.27e40624_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Carranza government received the "Zimmerman Telegram" (it was decoded by the British Secret Service and sent to Wilson) there was no substance to it, Mexico was broke and exhausted, and Carranza was barely in control (he would eventually be murdered in his bed by one of his own officers) Zimmerman was dreaming, and although Germany had some 'influence' (their army was admired by the Mexican officer corps), Germany had no influence in Mexico, the rest is speculation and hype. Merrill --part1_3e.8db7769.27e40624_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Carranza government received the "Zimmerman Telegram" (it was decoded by
the British Secret Service and sent to Wilson) there was no substance to it,
Mexico was broke and exhausted, and Carranza was barely in control (he would
eventually be murdered in his bed by one of his own officers) Zimmerman was
dreaming, and although Germany had some 'influence' (their army was admired
by the Mexican officer corps), Germany had no influence in Mexico, the rest
is speculation and hype.
Merrill  
--part1_3e.8db7769.27e40624_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:19:27 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Zimmerman Letter, was Jenny combat role Message-ID: <26.12ac9f0d.27e4078f@aol.com> --part1_26.12ac9f0d.27e4078f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didn't mention the one factor that kept the speculation alive, if not reality based, since the "Emperor Maximillian" mess, the French were hated in Mexico, but Mexican public opinion, such as it was, was sympathetic to Belgium, so the things balanced out. Merrill --part1_26.12ac9f0d.27e4078f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didn't mention the one factor that kept the speculation alive, if not
reality based, since the "Emperor Maximillian" mess, the French were hated in
Mexico, but Mexican public opinion, such as it was, was sympathetic to
Belgium, so the things balanced out.
Merrill
--part1_26.12ac9f0d.27e4078f_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 13:51:24 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Jenny combatant role Message-ID: DB said: "> Great summary Myles > I saw an article in Aviation History about the JN-3's use in this action. > There was a photo of a handcarved prop lashed to the fuselage side. They > carried a spare because forced landings often took out the prop. > sp > Ah yes, that's where I read about alot of it! Wasn't that the same issue that had the article on the possibly first air-to-air combat - in Mexico? DB" A description of what is claimed to be the first aerial combat ever (using revolvers and Curtiss pushers) is also in St. Harry“s "Early Aircraft Armament", p. 28/29. Again Villa involved in it. OTF 13/2 has a lot of info on the Jenny/1st Aero in Mexico. Too, there is a famous Dietz drawing on it“s back ("Black Jack“s new scouts"). I always wanted to use that as a base for a diorama (however, the paining takes some "artistic freedom" when it comes to the depiction of the wings). Further photographic and colour information is in the "Official Monogram US Army Air Service & Air Corps Aircraft Colour Guide" vol 1. I just love these Jennies with the red star - also interesting to surprise some "experts" with an AMERICAN aircraft carrying red stars. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:26:15 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fokker Team WAS: Eduard Pup PE Message-ID: <7E90803B.745D7840.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Thanks, Todd. I've bookmarked the site and will check out subscribing to their mailing list. Mike K. Todd wrote: > > Mike, > > It's worth subscribing to their mailing list.  They're > offering a booklet on the history of Oberursel AG > among other things. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:27:54 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Obvious Datafile Omissions Message-ID: <20010317002754.77111.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> And the Spad XIV. --- Ray Boorman wrote: > tsk Tsk Breguet 14. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wwi@wwi-models.org > [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Matt > > Bittner > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 4:07 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: RE: Obvious Datafile Omissions > > > > > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:59:59 -0500 (EST), Crawford > Neil wrote: > > > > > By 100 miles, Spad 11 & 16, they made 2500 of > them > > > mothers, so why so little interest:-( > > > > Definite agreement there! We could use a book or > two on the two seat > > SPADs! > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:49:13 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Jenny References + history Message-ID: <3AB28A58.F088CEAE@dial.pipex.com> Brad & Merville wrote: > Shane wrote: "the Jenny is a trainer. You want references - the subject > needs to be used by a major combatant and in some combat role." > > Royal Navy Aircraft Serials and Units 1911-1919 lists a batch of 80 > Curtiss JN4s built in Toronto and delivered to the RNAS in May of 1916. > While most were relegated to training duties, several were used for > anti-submarine patrol from East Fortune where at least one was damaged in a > forced landing while on patrol. East Fortune ? A Scottish connection as well ? this one is shooting up my to do list !! Any more info ? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:43:25 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Merlin kits Message-ID: <20010317004325.13493.qmail@web11113.mail.yahoo.com> Michael, You're kidding aren't you? A phone? That's new to me. Some guy featured in FSM did a 1:32 Me262 out of tin cans. But a phone? That belongs on Ripley's Believe It or Not. Todd --- Michael Kendix wrote: > >From: Todd Hayes > > > > >I have one 1:48 Merlin kit. It is the worst kit I > >have ever seen. Too bad too. It's a Nieuport 12 > >which I'd love to have a good kit of. This isn't > it. > >Just think of a plastic kit that's been placed > about > >three inches from a strong heat source. That's the > >Nie.12. OOB. If someone can make this into > something > >other than a doorstop, they're not a modeler but a > >magician. > > Todd: > > I'd recommend you send it to Alberto Casirati but > it's in the wrong scale. > Have you seen that RE8 he made from the remnants of > old rotary telephone? > > Michael > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:46:57 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Merlin kits Message-ID: <20010317004657.172.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> Sorry Jim, Dave Calhoun already claimed it. Consider yourself saved. You might have died while laughing too hard and rolling on the floor after looking at it. How a company could issue a kit like this and still hold their heads up is beyond me. Even they must have known it is CRAP. Todd --- Jim Landon wrote: > < a doorstop, they're not > a modeler but a magician.>> > > If nobody else wants it, I could use it to practice > on before I attempt a > good kit. > > I'm serious. > > Jim > > >From: "Michael Kendix" > >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > >To: Multiple recipients of list > > >Subject: Re: Merlin kits > >Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:24:01 -0500 (EST) > > > > >From: Todd Hayes > > > > > > > >I have one 1:48 Merlin kit. It is the worst kit > I > > >have ever seen. Too bad too. It's a Nieuport 12 > > >which I'd love to have a good kit of. This isn't > it. > > >Just think of a plastic kit that's been placed > about > > >three inches from a strong heat source. That's > the > > >Nie.12. OOB. If someone can make this into > something > > >other than a doorstop, they're not a modeler but > a > > >magician. > > > >Todd: > > > >I'd recommend you send it to Alberto Casirati but > it's in the wrong scale. > >Have you seen that RE8 he made from the remnants of > old rotary telephone? > > > >Michael > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:46:18 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: british pushers Message-ID: <482FE957.4405EDF5.3E0364A1@netscape.net> I had several pieces of 1/4" thick glass cut in various sizes to work on and to use for sanding. I use 3M spray glue and attach about a half sheet of 3 different grits to the glass. Works great, especially with vacs. If I use wet or dry sandpaper, I can put the glass underwater in a baking pan and avoid the grit buildup. I paint the bottom white for the pieces of glass that I work on. It helps me see the PE and small parts. FWIW, Mike K. Jim Landon wrote: > > Dave Fletcher said: < very useful for sanding wings and tailplanes.  I stick a small piece to the > upper surface and my fingers don't slide around or get dragged across the > sandpaper>> > > I thought I read somewhere that one should never sand by simply holding a > bit of sandpaper in your fingers.  Ever since I read that I have always > stuck the sandpaper to a popsicle stick (end cut off square) and handled it > sort of like a file.  For bigger jobs I attach the sandpaper to a block of > wood of appropriate size.  Sometimes I attach the sandpaper face-up on a > flat surface and rub the part around on it. > > The idea is that you want uniform pressure, and your fingers might cause a > concentration of pressure. > > Nonetheless, tell me more about this "skateboard grip tape" stuff.  Never > heard of it.  I never go near sporting goods stores. > > Jim > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:17:51 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Dragon Fokker D VII Message-ID: For those still sticking to the wrong scale: I just saw in the Hannant "Hot News Sheet" that they are offering the Fokker D VII with Udet bust (for a rather steep price of 24,99 british pounds - well, YOU selected that scale). They say it“s a special import of a discontinued item (read: expensive) To find it on there webpage, they say you have to: DRAGON SPECIAL IMPORTS. ALL NOW DISCONTINUED (to find these on our website click on MANUFACTURER then 88. PART NUMBER DN. ENTER....) with the number being: DN5908 1:48 Fokker D.VII With 1:12 Ernst Udet bust £24.99 Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:16:35 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Pink rib tapes Message-ID: <000d01c0ae7f$e9e5b940$62f0aec7@default> I added a photo of the lozenged AEG wing with the pink-violet ribtapes added. http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/aeg.htm sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:56:01 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Merlin kits Message-ID: <019d01c0ae7f$2e48b390$4439183f@cyrixp166> I have the 1/48 Salmson. It has possibilities. Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:08:42 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Obvious Datafile Omissions Message-ID: <019e01c0ae7f$2fbeffe0$4439183f@cyrixp166> Speaking of Harry Woodman...What ever happend to the plans to re-print his book Scale Modeling In Plastic Card? Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:50:16 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Roland D VIb "7502" colours Message-ID: A few weeks ago there was a thread on the experimental camouflage applied to a Roland D VIb (7502/18) in US sevice; AFAIR, there was no answer to this question. While browsing through the "Official Monogram US Army Air Service & Air Corps Aircraft Colour Guide" vol 1" (I could kill these guys for this title - my fingers really hurt now), I found the following remark: There is a McCook Field report "Camouflage of Day Airplanes", Report 1498, dated january 12, 1921. This obviously describes (amongst others) experimental schemes tested on a P/LP LUSAC-11, a DH 4, a TM MB-3 and *this very D VIb*. The colours are given as "dark straw, dull green black and mauve/reddish purple". Looking on the photos, it is quite obvious which colour was which one. Now that could really be a nice schem for that MAC kit... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:24:48 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Vintage Aviation Historical Foundation Open House Message-ID: <0F03871E.1154E5B0.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Thanks for the info, Jim. I'm going to be there, one way or the other. It's just a short way down the road from here. Hope you and many other listees can make it. Keep in touch. Mike K. Jim Landon wrote: > > Has anybody else announced this yet? > > OPEN HOUSE.  See restored WWI planes fly.  April 7.  Near San Antonio Texas. > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:24:49 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Merlin kits Message-ID: Todd: Yes, I was joking. He made it from the Airfix kit, which is more difficult than making it from an old phone. Michael >From: Todd Hayes > >You're kidding aren't you? A phone? That's new to >me. Some guy featured in FSM did a 1:32 Me262 out of >tin cans. But a phone? That belongs on Ripley's >Believe It or Not. > >Todd > > >--- Michael Kendix wrote: > > >From: Todd Hayes > > > > > > > >I have one 1:48 Merlin kit. It is the worst kit I > > >have ever seen. Too bad too. It's a Nieuport 12 > > >which I'd love to have a good kit of. This isn't > > it. > > >Just think of a plastic kit that's been placed > > about > > >three inches from a strong heat source. That's the > > >Nie.12. OOB. If someone can make this into > > something > > >other than a doorstop, they're not a modeler but a > > >magician. > > > > Todd: > > > > I'd recommend you send it to Alberto Casirati but > > it's in the wrong scale. > > Have you seen that RE8 he made from the remnants of > > old rotary telephone? > > > > Michael > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:37:22 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Obvious Datafile Ommissions Message-ID: <60.c7da968.27e419d2@aol.com> --part1_60.c7da968.27e419d2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As long as they're doing planes like the Buzzard, and Albatros experimentals, how about the Pfalz Dr 1, and the FK10, about ten of each made, and some operational use, if stories are true. Merrill --part1_60.c7da968.27e419d2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As long as they're doing planes like the Buzzard, and Albatros experimentals,
how about the Pfalz Dr 1, and the FK10, about ten of each made, and some
operational use, if stories are true.
Merrill
--part1_60.c7da968.27e419d2_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:42:46 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dragon Fokker D VII Message-ID: <6BCCAE9D.578AD0C3.3E0364A1@netscape.net> I just know that if I bought one of these at this price plus Hannant's shipping charges, DML would reissue the kit within two months for $17.95 per. Anyone want to contribute to a good cause? Mike K. Volker wrote: > > For those still sticking to the wrong scale: > > I just saw in the Hannant "Hot News Sheet" that they are offering the Fokker > D VII with Udet bust (for a rather steep price of 24,99 british pounds - > well, YOU selected that scale). They say it“s a special import of a > discontinued item (read: expensive) > > To find it on there webpage, they say you have to: > > DRAGON > SPECIAL IMPORTS. ALL NOW DISCONTINUED > (to find these on our website click on MANUFACTURER then 88. PART NUMBER DN. > ENTER....) > > with the number being: > > DN5908 1:48 Fokker D.VII With 1:12 Ernst Udet bust £24.99 > > > Volker > > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:03:03 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Woodman Reprint Message-ID: <000b01c0ae86$6752bc60$5e414c0c@tom> Hi- I corresponded with him a short while back and he wrote that it was to be published anew with updates reflecting the change in materials etc., early this year? Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 8:25 PM Subject: Re: Obvious Datafile Omissions > Speaking of Harry Woodman...What ever happend to the plans to re-print his > book Scale Modeling In Plastic Card? > > Cyg. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:05:12 -0600 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Jenny combatant role Message-ID: <3AB2C658.CC3E409A@x25.net> There are a very large number of German background people in Mexico today. My wife and I met a nice young lady in a restaurant. She was a natural blonde with a Mexican accent and a German name (,on her name tag). I spoke to her in German and she answered so we had a neat converstaion. She is attending UTSA and helping her family to put her through college by working in a very nice steak house as a waitress. It still goes on today. That is part of the reason they have Mexican Polkas. Lee M. DAVID BURKE wrote: > > A portion of the U.S. government activity was intended to prevent further > > spread of the German influence on our border during that time period. > > This is true. I'm sure that there's lots of folks who aren't familiar with > the infamous 'Zimmermann Telegram' (or note, or letter). Basically, Billy > the Kaiser thought that he could help open a front on the US border with > Mexican help. > > Perhaps this is one reason that alot of Mexican music sounds so German, > hmmm? > > DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:06:31 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Pink rib tapes Message-ID: <001b01c0ae86$e2e9d5c0$5e414c0c@tom> Hi SP I think it looks great. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven M.Perry" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: Pink rib tapes > I added a photo of the lozenged AEG wing with the pink-violet ribtapes > added. > > http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/aeg.htm > > sp > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3197 **********************