WWI Digest 3182 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: scans by "Hans Trauner" 2) Re: Dornier D.I data by "Matt Bittner" 3) Re: Colour info for Dornier D.I by "Hans Trauner" 4) Re: Updated links by "Jim Landon" 5) RE: Updated links by Crawford Neil 6) Re: Gotha by Karen Rychlewski 7) Raland colours by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 8) Re: Escape! WAS: captured terrorist by "Jim Landon" 9) 1/24 Fokker D.VIII Flying Razor by Brent Theobald 10) Tom's Nieuport 10 was Dame Karen, Your Decals... by Karen Rychlewski 11) DH-10 by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" 12) Selling old WWI article - by "Robert Fabris" 13) Re: Raland colours by Karen Rychlewski 14) Re: Dornier D.I data by Karen Rychlewski 15) Misc.mags for sale by "Robert Fabris" 16) Re: Raland colours by "Hans Trauner" 17) Re: Dornier D.I data by "Hans Trauner" 18) RE: Dame Karen, Your Decals Have Been Sent by Todd Hayes 19) Re: Dame Karen, Your Decals Have Been Sent by Todd Hayes 20) Re: Colour info for Dornier D.I by Todd Hayes 21) Re: Gotha by MAnde72343@aol.com 22) Unloading Datafiles by "Ken Acosta" 23) Re: Raland colours by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 24) RE: Raland colours by Brent Theobald 25) Re: Raland colours by MAnde72343@aol.com 26) Re: Dornier D.I data by "Lance Krieg" 27) Re: Raland colours by "Bob Pearson" 28) Re: Roland colours by "Brian Nicklas" 29) Re: Nieuport IV by "Muth and Zulick" 30) Re: Dornier D.I data by "TOM PLESHA" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:20:38 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: scans Message-ID: <002301c0abd9$8ad5e360$e2a072d4@custom-pc> Tom, did you try to import them in any grafic program like Corel? Word? Powerpoint? From which program do try to print? Suggestion: Try to import and print. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:20:22 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Dornier D.I data Message-ID: <3AAD241F00067F04@mail01.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail01.san.yahoo.com) On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:21:37 -0500 (EST), Hans Trauner wrote: > thank you for all the info. I've got scans concerning the colour scheme from > Brad and Mike and these scans state what I suspected: Alu plus lozenge. What > I still miss is any info from the interiors. I do have the Dornier > Typenblatt and there is a fuselage picture taken from the front to the rear > so you get a idea from the rips and stringers. That's all. And what I am > wondering if there was any lozenge variation for the untersides? > Blue/blue/grey also? All other a/c covered so are pale blue/grey on the > undersides. Was there ever a underside variant of naval loz? One thing I wanted to mention earlier. There was at least one that appears to not have the lozenge applied, but instead the fabric areas of the wing were covered in CDL. If it was the machine the US Army (or Navy?) had I don't know, so maybe they re-covered it. Matt Bittner _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:22:46 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Colour info for Dornier D.I Message-ID: <002a01c0abd9$d7368020$e2a072d4@custom-pc> >Did you get the photoetch for the kit too? It's a >separate purchase from the kit but very handy to have. > >Todd Thanks to a generous donation I got anything: pe set, pe guns, pe gauges. This raises the pressure to make a perfect model.... Hans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:37:24 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Cc: tbittners@sprintmail.com, aew@unh.edu Subject: Re: Updated links Message-ID: <> You might want to add my Salmson 2A2 web site under both categories: "Non-Commercial WWI Modeling Sites" and "Non-Modeling WWI Sites". The site does double duty: 1. Salmson 2A2 reference material 2. My model The URL is: http://communities.msn.com/Salmson2A2 Jim Landon >From: "Matt Bittner" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Updated links >Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:34:10 -0500 (EST) > >I just updated a couple of links on the Links page. First I added the >Finnish Breguet 14 that RK brought to our attention during the weekend. > Plus, I updated the link to WW1 Aero since it had changed. > >If there are anymore links people think should be added - or you find >links that are broken - please let me or Allan know. We want to be a >"central" site for WW1 modeling, and having the right references is >important. At least I think so... ;-) > > >Matt Bittner >WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:45:24 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Updated links Message-ID: Matt, Did you add this one that Mike found? /Neil > http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/index.htm > > Very interesting site that the owner is expanding at a furious rate. > > > > Mike Matt wrote: snip >If there are anymore links people think should be added - or you find > >links that are broken - please let me or Allan know. We want to be a > >"central" site for WW1 modeling, and having the right references is > >important. At least I think so... ;-) > > > > > >Matt Bittner > >WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:24:48 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gotha Message-ID: <3AAE57E0.F501D569@earthlink.net> Hi Guys The Albatros Gotha! book says the struts were steel tube covered by a three-ply[wood?] fairing; the color profiles show the struts and nacelles in light grey Dame Karen John Huggins wrote: > >Everyone, > > > > I have a question. In all of my pictures of the Gotha, the struts > >are a light color. What color? They don't appear to be wood. Nothing in > >my reference material indicates a color. Any help would be greatly > >appreciated. > Dennis, > I don't know how accurate it is, but the Roden instructions show the > struts and engine nacelles to be in a light Gray (RLM02??). Looking > at the pic of the GIII, that would fit. Besides, that is the way I > am doing mine. > John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:15:00 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Raland colours Message-ID: Greetings all, I don't know why but the camo'd versions of the Roland CII just don't move me. I've checked around and found a few all light blue schemes but was wondering. . .anyone point me towards some other colour options? The all white machine immortalized on the old airfix (and Heller??) kits. . .was that a figment of someone's imagination or is it documented? Any help appreciated (at least until I can get around to buying Bob's profile CD. . .I'm dropping hints to SWMBO about it as a perfect birthday present) TIA MVJ Who just found out the disturbing news that his birthday, April 22 shares the dubious honour of being the date of the first ever gas attack :-( Talk about a bad sign. . . . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:40:51 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Escape! WAS: captured terrorist Message-ID: <<... a known and respected citizen of New Orleans has dissapeared under strange circumstances after winning several trophys at a modelling contest.>> ROTFLOLSHMCCTSWTHWGO Rolling on the floor laughing out loud so hard my coworkers came to see what the h__ was going on Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:43:25 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: 1/24 Fokker D.VIII Flying Razor Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608E09@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Hey Guys, I thought I'd pass this on. Do not reply to me, it ain't my model. I have no association with this person. Brent ==================================================================== Marcos Miniatures 1/24 Fokker DVIII (Flying Razor)...$70 It has vacuform, resin, white metal, wood parts and lozenge pattern decals. Excellent opportunity to give extra detail. Price is in USD, shipping not included, kit is in US. If interested email geschwader26@yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:57:01 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Tom's Nieuport 10 was Dame Karen, Your Decals... Message-ID: <3AAE5F6E.4952CBE0@earthlink.net> Hi Shane You're right, by gosh! The resin version is an update (and looks like a great kit!) of the older vacuform. I'll have to look for it myself--mine doesn't have the PE and decals. Does that make my older one a 'collectible antique'? Dame Karen Shane Weier wrote: > Dame Karen writes: > > > BTW, you've been asking about the Tom's Modelworks Nieuport > > 9/10. I have > > the kit; haven't built it; haven't checked the accuracy--but > > Tom's kits > > are usually pretty good: this one looks OK. Kind of interesting to get > > two fuselages. I think it would build up nicely with the > > usual amount of vacuform work. > > Mmm. I think I have the same Toms kit, but mine is *resin*. > > I couldn't comment authoratatively on how accurate it is or isn't - it's > somewhere at home under piles of dust - but IIRC it's complete and quite > well detailed but suffers from a thickish trailing edge. > > Reviewed in Windsock, March 98 > > Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:03:36 -0600 From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" To: "'WWI Modeling Digest'" Subject: DH-10 Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A249078012ABB53@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com> RK writes: > Finish the thing! What a novel idea! I've heard legends of people actually finishing models, but I never believed them. Sounds like something to strive for, somewhat like a "Holy Grail." Thanks for the input. kz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:10:54 -0800 From: "Robert Fabris" To: Subject: Selling old WWI article - Message-ID: <00bd01c0abe8$f41bd140$6a37480c@garage> I have a copy of the 12/83 "Wings" magazine. It's a special on WWI, with photos of personalities, aircraft, replicas, plus a beautiful color cutaway drawing by Batchelor of an Albatros DV (von Schleich). 50-odd pages. 12.ppd. Bob Fabris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:05:29 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Raland colours Message-ID: <3AAE616A.DFFE321A@earthlink.net> Hi Mark How about checkerboard wings?? The Datafile (No. 49) has a cover painting and one photo of such; most were the pale blue/grey you've seen, but some had semi-interesting black bands and stripes. Dame Karen Mark Vaughan-Jackson wrote: > Greetings all, > > I don't know why but the camo'd versions of the Roland CII just don't move me. > I've checked around and found a few all light blue schemes but was > wondering. . .anyone point me towards some other colour options? > The all white machine immortalized on the old airfix (and Heller??) kits. . > .was that a figment of someone's imagination or is it documented? > > Any help appreciated (at least until I can get around to buying Bob's > profile CD. . .I'm dropping hints to SWMBO about it as a perfect birthday > present) > TIA > > MVJ > > Who just found out the disturbing news that his birthday, April 22 shares > the dubious honour of being the date of the first ever gas attack :-( > Talk about a bad sign. . . . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:11:53 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dornier D.I data Message-ID: <3AAE62E9.F4D0AE16@earthlink.net> Hi Hans The Mini-Datafile (No. 12) has several photos of the cockpit, engine, and engine compartment with engine removed Dame Karen Hans Trauner wrote: > Hi Tom, > thank you for all the info. I've got scans concerning the colour scheme from > Brad and Mike and these scans state what I suspected: Alu plus lozenge. What > I still miss is any info from the interiors. I do have the Dornier > Typenblatt and there is a fuselage picture taken from the front to the rear > so you get a idea from the rips and stringers. That's all. And what I am > wondering if there was any lozenge variation for the untersides? > Blue/blue/grey also? All other a/c covered so are pale blue/grey on the > undersides. Was there ever a underside variant of naval loz? > > Greetings > > Hans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:22:12 -0800 From: "Robert Fabris" To: Subject: Misc.mags for sale Message-ID: <014501c0abea$87370200$6a37480c@garage> A couple of ot/OT publications.... *ModelArt magazine, 11/92 three pages of b/w and beautiful color photos of a Fokker Dr.1 "KEMPF". In Japanese. $4.ppd. *Air Force Colors '26-'42 Squadron-Signal $5.ppd *Modeler's Manual, by Microscale (Lloyd Jones) $6.ppd *Smithsonian Annal of Flight #5 - Wright Bros Engines - photos & cutaways, 65pp. $6.ppd contact offline please....Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:36:08 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Raland colours Message-ID: <000a01c0abec$78ab55e0$53a272d4@custom-pc> Mark, are you sure? The Airfix kit always suggested a pale blue machine. The pale blue version and the camo version is all I knew, but I am uncertain nowadays if the camo version was green / lilac or better green / brown. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:38:29 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Dornier D.I data Message-ID: <001901c0abec$ccb4b3c0$53a272d4@custom-pc> >The Mini-Datafile (No. 12) has several photos of the cockpit, engine, and >engine compartment with engine removed Karen, Thanks. I have to go for it, at last. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:39:20 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Dame Karen, Your Decals Have Been Sent Message-ID: <20010313183920.89110.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Shane, HOW thickish is the trailing edge? Tom had some real problems with the wings on his kits. Todd --- Shane Weier wrote: > Dame Karen writes: > > > > BTW, you've been asking about the Tom's Modelworks > Nieuport > > 9/10. I have > > the kit; haven't built it; haven't checked the > accuracy--but > > Tom's kits > > are usually pretty good: this one looks OK. Kind > of interesting to get > > two fuselages. I think it would build up nicely > with the > > usual amount of vacuform work. > > Mmm. I think I have the same Toms kit, but mine is > *resin*. > > I couldn't comment authoratatively on how accurate > it is or isn't - it's > somewhere at home under piles of dust - but IIRC > it's complete and quite > well detailed but suffers from a thickish trailing > edge. > > Reviewed in Windsock, March 98 > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is > confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, > distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are > requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to > the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > ********************************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:41:12 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dame Karen, Your Decals Have Been Sent Message-ID: <20010313184112.85823.qmail@web11110.mail.yahoo.com> Dame Karen, No problem. I haven't seen the Winsock issue you mentioned. Todd --- Karen Rychlewski wrote: > Hey Todd > > Can hardly wait! I owe you one... > > BTW, you've been asking about the Tom's Modelworks > Nieuport 9/10. I have > the kit; haven't built it; haven't checked the > accuracy--but Tom's kits > are usually pretty good: this one looks OK. Kind of > interesting to get > two fuselages. I think it would build up nicely with > the usual amount of > vacuform work. > Do you have Windsock No. 6, 1993? 5 profiles on the > covers and a nice > article on Russian 2-seater Nieuports. > > Karen > > > Todd Hayes wrote: > > > D.K., > > > > I hope you enjoy them. There are enough for nine > a/c > > including three Gotha G.III's. Cutting them out > from > > the A/G sheet was something like making your own > > jigsaw puzzle. Be careful when unwrapping. There > are > > several loose pieces. Forget the Shipping. It > came > > out to a whole $.34. > > > > Todd > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:44:07 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Colour info for Dornier D.I Message-ID: <20010313184407.89429.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Hans, You did get the whole package! Todd --- Hans Trauner wrote: > >Did you get the photoetch for the kit too? It's a > >separate purchase from the kit but very handy to > have. > > > >Todd > > Thanks to a generous donation I got anything: pe > set, pe guns, pe gauges. > This raises the pressure to make a perfect model.... > > Hans > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:55:54 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gotha Message-ID: <3f.11e9ea6a.27dfc73a@aol.com> --part1_3f.11e9ea6a.27dfc73a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unlike the allies, who varnished the struts, the Germans usually painted them, a fair guesstimate would be light gray, I usually use RLM 63, but whatever "primer" gray you use, dicta ira. Merrill --part1_3f.11e9ea6a.27dfc73a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unlike the allies, who varnished the struts, the Germans usually painted
them, a fair guesstimate would be light gray, I usually use RLM 63, but
whatever "primer" gray you use, dicta ira.
Merrill
--part1_3f.11e9ea6a.27dfc73a_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:56:15 -0600 From: "Ken Acosta" To: Cc: "Ken Acosta" Subject: Unloading Datafiles Message-ID: Listees- After an unsuccessful attempt to trade these Datafiles away, I'm now offering them up for sale at $10 each: - #15 Fokker E.III - #25 Fokker D.VIII - #34 Sopwith 1.5 Strutter Please contact me off-list if interested. Thanks- KA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:34:20 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Raland colours Message-ID: >Hi Mark > >How about checkerboard wings?? The Datafile (No. 49) has a cover painting >and one >photo of such; most were the pale blue/grey you've seen, but some had >semi-interesting black bands and stripes. > >Dame Karen Checkerboard. . .now you're talking my language Milady. Any more details on this particular A/C. . .seeing as I'm datafileless. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:01:43 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Raland colours Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608E0B@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy! There is the really cool, and difficult, fish scale paint job. Later! Brent -----Original Message----- From: Hans Trauner [mailto:hans.trauner@nefkom.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Raland colours Mark, are you sure? The Airfix kit always suggested a pale blue machine. The pale blue version and the camo version is all I knew, but I am uncertain nowadays if the camo version was green / lilac or better green / brown. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:07:48 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Raland colours Message-ID: --part1_e4.123effc2.27dfca04_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The light gray/bluish gray is documented, the datafile shows overall light gray, and light gray under with a darker blue gray upper, from there, with the two color upper camo, dicta ira rules, (there was a thread about this) some say it was green/red brown upper over light blue, some green and mauve, IMHO, the green/brown seems more likely in 1916. Merrill --part1_e4.123effc2.27dfca04_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The light gray/bluish gray is documented, the datafile shows overall light
gray, and light gray under with a darker blue gray upper, from there, with
the two color upper camo, dicta ira rules, (there was a thread about this)
some say it was green/red brown upper over light blue, some green and mauve,
IMHO, the green/brown seems more likely in 1916.
Merrill
--part1_e4.123effc2.27dfca04_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:22:43 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Dornier D.I data Message-ID: Hans is wondering: "... if there was any lozenge variation for the untersides? Blue/blue/grey also? All other a/c covered so are pale blue/grey on the undersides. Was there ever a underside variant of naval loz?" I can't speak specifically to these Dorniers, but the Kriegsmarine had specific instruction on the coloring of their aircraft, and did not use hex/lozenge on the underside; fabric in CDL and ply in the light gray. There were at least two of the hex fabrics, one in blue/blue/gray, the other in brown/blue/gray, but their use seems to have been intercchangeable, and not for any particular application. Or so I recall from a naval project... do you want me to pursue this in detail? HTH Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:32:47 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Raland colours Message-ID: <200103131940.LAA32550@mail.rapidnet.net> >>How about checkerboard wings?? The Datafile (No. 49) has a cover painting >>and one >>photo of such; most were the pale blue/grey you've seen, but some had >>semi-interesting black bands and stripes. >> >>Dame Karen > > Checkerboard. . .now you're talking my language Milady. > Any more details on this particular A/C. . .seeing as I'm datafileless. Keep an eye out for an upcoming IM article by EtH on this very aircraft. . I think it is a couple months away so I can do some C.II profiles Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:41:07 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roland colours Message-ID: The Roland in white does not show up in the Profile publication. I recall that the Airfix kit did identify this to a particular pilot, but I don't recall the details. I don't have a copy of Windsock DF 49 to check that. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:45:51 -0500 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Nieuport IV Message-ID: <01b101c0abf6$37381260$0100005a@ptd.net> Thanks, Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday,March 13,2001 9:04 AM Subject: RE: Nieuport IV > The aircraft in the technical museum is a Thulin N or NA, so > more like a Morane copy. The Nieuport IV on floats is called > a Nieuport IVM ,the Swedish Navy had one. According to my > friend Eje, it had a proper tail, not just a rudder. > It isn't well documented, I don't think I have any pictures, > Eje thought he had one somewhere, but he can never > find anything. > When I was at the museum I looked at the Breguet B1 beside the > Nieuport and you could follow the wires from the steering wheel > out via pulleys to the rear of the top wing, which they pull on. > But on the Nieuport you can't see how it works at all, there are > no ailerons, and all the wires seem to be just bracing. The wires > go to the top of the pylon, but from there I could see no connection > to the stick, does anyone know how it worked? You can see it on the link > that Mike gave. > /Neil > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Muth and Zulick [mailto:artzulick@ptd.net] > > Sent: den 12 mars 2001 20:47 > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Re: Nieuport IV > > > > > > I don't know if it was a Nieuport or not, but I remember a > > nice biplane on > > floats with a Sopwith feel to it that was at a Technical Museum in > > Stockholm. > > Mike Muth > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > Sent: Friday,March 09,2001 8:46 PM > > Subject: Re: Nieuport IV > > > > > > > Speaking of Nieuport IV's - I have just gotten confirmtion that the > > > Swedes had a Nieuport IV on floats...(now if I only had a shot of > > > something other than a bad museum model in a case...) > > > It'll be posted (I imagine) at > > http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/index.htm > > > Very interesting site that the owner is expanding at a furious rate. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:21:01 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Dornier D.I data Message-ID: <005501c0abfb$1ff89660$8c434c0c@tom> Hans- The data available for the D.1 interior is almost non-existent. What the data file has is it. In addition,Volker has sent some scans which are helpful insomuch as they expalin, somewhat the variants (only a few). The D.1, as far as I can determine had the same loz on the upper and lower surfaces-blue-blue/grey-grey. The one shipped to the US appears to have been dismantled/re-assembled etc., so the validity of its colors are questionable. Regardless, if you need anything else I can assist with let me know. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Trauner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 11:21 AM Subject: Re: Dornier D.I data > Hi Tom, > thank you for all the info. I've got scans concerning the colour scheme from > Brad and Mike and these scans state what I suspected: Alu plus lozenge. What > I still miss is any info from the interiors. I do have the Dornier > Typenblatt and there is a fuselage picture taken from the front to the rear > so you get a idea from the rips and stringers. That's all. And what I am > wondering if there was any lozenge variation for the untersides? > Blue/blue/grey also? All other a/c covered so are pale blue/grey on the > undersides. Was there ever a underside variant of naval loz? > > Greetings > > Hans > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3182 **********************