WWI Digest 3179

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) RE: Restrictions on photography - was Re: How many ASA?  Urgent!
	by "Tomasz Gronczewski" <gronczewski@interia.pl>
  2) Working joystick was Re: The darn thing works!!
	by Jan Vihonen <jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi>
  3) RE: Working joystick was Re: The darn thing works!!
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
  4) Updated links
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
  5) Cool
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
  6) Re: Cool
	by "Lee J. Mensinger" <lemen@x25.net>
  7) New upload
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
  8) Re: Gotha Build Page
	by "Brian Nicklas" <Brian.Nicklas@nasm.si.edu>
  9) Re: Technique question
	by "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
 10) Sw. Air force museum visit
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
 11) Re: The darn thing works!!
	by RadspadMike@netscape.net
 12) Re: Ni.17 Cockpit Color Question
	by "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
 13) Book Requests
	by John_Impenna@hyperion.com
 14) Re: Cool
	by KarrArt@aol.com
 15) captured terrorist
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 16) Web Page and Next Week No Admin
	by Allan Wright <aew>
 17) Re: Web Page and Next Week No Admin
	by MAnde72343@aol.com
 18) Re: Web Page and Next Week No Admin
	by Allan Wright <aew@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
 19) Re: Nieuport IV
	by "Muth and Zulick" <artzulick@ptd.net>
 20) Fw: Creepy coincidences
	by "Muth and Zulick" <artzulick@ptd.net>
 21) Re: Super Scale 1:48 4-Color Lozenge Upper and Lower
	by "TOM PLESHA" <APPMAN@worldnet.att.net>
 22) Re: Hi - Tech Nieuport 24
	by "Muth and Zulick" <artzulick@ptd.net>
 23) Re: Book Requests
	by REwing@aol.com
 24) David Charles
	by "TOM PLESHA" <APPMAN@worldnet.att.net>
 25) Re: The darn thing works!!
	by "Jim Landon" <thegreatlandoni@hotmail.com>
 26) Re: captured terrorist
	by REwing@aol.com
 27) Re: Super Scale 1:48 4-Color Lozenge Upper and Lower
	by Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:22:35 +0100
From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" <gronczewski@interia.pl>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Restrictions on photography - was Re: How many ASA?  Urgent!
Message-ID: <NDBBIELFOLLOBGEOAOAAOEMIDCAA.gronczewski@interia.pl>

> Knowing a few people in the Museum business, there are a number of reasons
for
> restricting photography:

> 1) No tripods - often (massive snip)

Europe, Europe! I expect rule no. 4 soon - no visitors, because they may
have found, observed, and remembered displayed items. ;o)

Tomasz




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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:52:25 +0200
From: Jan Vihonen <jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Working joystick was Re: The darn thing works!!
Message-ID: <3AACAA69.19124979@helsinki.fi>

Jim Landon wrote:

> I wonder if anybody ever has made an operating joystick and control surfaces
> in a smaller scale than 1:16?

A couple of years ago I saw a Spit in 1/48 scale in a modelling contest
here in Helsinki that had this feature, though only working with
elevators, IIRC. It was made by an Estonian modeller whose name I have
forgotten. The kit was either Tamiya or Hasegawa and it had also some
other working features, like removable panels etc. Yeah, I know. It's
anal. But it was quite a tour de force, I must admit.

Jan

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:23:40 +0100
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Working joystick was Re: The darn thing works!!
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A03902721@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

It's not terribly difficult to make the elevators work on a
1/48 Spitfire. I've done it, the elevators still waggle if
you move the stick 20 years later. I'd like to see someone
do the ailerons, that would be more difficult. IIRC all you have
to do is lenghten the stick and mount it a couple of holes, so 
it moves. then stretch a couple of crossed thread back to a similar
pylon in the tail, the elevators were separated and mounted on
a rod thought the tail with the pylon in the middle. Nothing to it!
The Spitfire is easy because it's all hidden, much worse on OT
models where its  more visible,  and needs to be neat. 
/Neil   


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan Vihonen [mailto:jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi]
> Sent: den 12 mars 2001 11:58
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Working joystick was Re: The darn thing works!!
> 
> 
> Jim Landon wrote:
> 
> > I wonder if anybody ever has made an operating joystick and 
> control surfaces
> > in a smaller scale than 1:16?
> 
> A couple of years ago I saw a Spit in 1/48 scale in a 
> modelling contest
> here in Helsinki that had this feature, though only working with
> elevators, IIRC. It was made by an Estonian modeller whose name I have
> forgotten. The kit was either Tamiya or Hasegawa and it had also some
> other working features, like removable panels etc. Yeah, I know. It's
> anal. But it was quite a tour de force, I must admit.
> 
> Jan
> 

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:29:41 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Updated links
Message-ID: <3AA931DA000D3C27@mail01.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail01.san.yahoo.com)

I just updated a couple of links on the Links page.  First I added the
Finnish Breguet 14 that RK brought to our attention during the weekend.
 Plus, I updated the link to WW1 Aero since it had changed.

If there are anymore links people think should be added - or you find
links that are broken - please let me or Allan know.  We want to be a
"central" site for WW1 modeling, and having the right references is
important.  At least I think so... ;-)


Matt Bittner
WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-)



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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:27:53 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Cool
Message-ID: <3AA931DA000D3C2D@mail01.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail01.san.yahoo.com)

Just wanted to toot my own horn a little.  I wanted a way to "show off"
the open, tubular structure at the rear of the Hanriot HD.3 (think HD.1
and Sopwith).  I was paging through the French FMP book when I noticed
in the SPAD 11 section a small "stool" (for lack of a better term)
under the tail skid of one of the 11's.  Well, I set out to replicate
this "stool".  If I may be so bold, it came out better than I had
hoped. ;-)  So, I'll use it under the HD.3 when I have pictures taken
to show just how well I think this area turned out.

I also painted an HO white metal "55 gallon drum" with thoughts of
using that, in case the "stool" wasn't finished in time.  Now I'm
contemplating building a base with the sole purpose of being used to
take photographs.


Matt Bittner



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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:16:40 -0600
From: "Lee J. Mensinger" <lemen@x25.net>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Cool
Message-ID: <3AACDA48.69612C29@x25.net>

There are some beautiful photograph backgrounds in the Photo articles on
Hyperscale.  Five chapters if I recall correctly.  Worth looking at.  It is
a wooded area with a grass field strip and Railroad Model fir type trees in
the back, but, a "Hanger Motif" is not much more difficult to make up.  RK
has done some great work in that department.  I can not recall exactly but
it seems I remember one with a cow in it.

Lee M.

Matt Bittner wrote:

> Just wanted to toot my own horn a little.  I wanted a way to "show off"
> the open, tubular structure at the rear of the Hanriot HD.3 (think HD.1
> and Sopwith).  I was paging through the French FMP book when I noticed
> in the SPAD 11 section a small "stool" (for lack of a better term)
> under the tail skid of one of the 11's.  Well, I set out to replicate
> this "stool".  If I may be so bold, it came out better than I had
> hoped. ;-)  So, I'll use it under the HD.3 when I have pictures taken
> to show just how well I think this area turned out.
>
> I also painted an HO white metal "55 gallon drum" with thoughts of
> using that, in case the "stool" wasn't finished in time.  Now I'm
> contemplating building a base with the sole purpose of being used to
> take photographs.
>
> Matt Bittner
>
> _________________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:26:45 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: New upload
Message-ID: <3AA931DA000D83BA@mail01.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail01.san.yahoo.com)

Just uploaded some in-progress pics of Ken Zelnick's Aurora DH-10. 
Excellent job!


Matt Bittner
WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-)



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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:03:40 -0500
From: "Brian Nicklas" <Brian.Nicklas@nasm.si.edu>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Gotha Build Page
Message-ID: <OFFA719BD8.9BDAE36A-ON85256A0D.00528C55@si.edu>


Gee Uggie,
Reading that first paragraph I was expecting to come across the line "With
a compass in the stock and a thing that tells time"
(reference to a classic)  One could get the impession that you were
excited.
Nice page BTW.



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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:18:56 -0600
From: "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Technique question
Message-ID: <saac9499.058@mail1-fs.amerus.com>

Steve, I have used the lace technique ( and it was Tom Morgan who brought it up) for ribs, including riblets.

A couple of points:

Thin CA is the best and fastest adhesive to use.

Fot the riblets, use the same technique, gluing slightly past the end of the riblet,  but slice the thread at the point where the riblet stops, and peel off the excess before the glue sets too hard.

DO NOT use monofilament, as it does not absorb the glue and therefore doesn't stick as thoroughly.  Any regular thread that will soak up the glue is preferable.

The overspray of a sandable primer hides all evidence of the superglue, and  creates very subtle inter-rib  "valleys".

Both Tom Morgan's gallery (DH2) and my own (Felixstowe) have pictures and a brief discussion of this approach.

Sorry not to have been able to respond before the weekend, when this information would have done you some good... and did you get my off-list post?

Lance


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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:45:00 +0100
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "WW1 list (E-mail)" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Sw. Air force museum visit
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A03902723@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

We drove up to the museum on Saturday, I'd hoped to be there by 12.00,
but everything took longer than I thought, so were'nt there till 14.15 , I
was
worried that they might be shut, but they were open till 16.00. Outside they
have an impressive row of aluminium, now getting rather grey.  A nice new
pair of J35 Drakens, one yellow and one blue, brightened things up a little.
I  presented myself at the reception, they let my wife in without paying
because
she wasn't going to look at any aircraft. In fact she cheated because I
pointed
at one, and she told me it was a Tummelisa, that isn't  bad is it!
I was supplied with a helper to carry the ladder and off we went, actually
the
helper was a modeller that I knew slightly who does voluntary work for the
museum.
It was great to have someone  knowledgable with me, we ended up discussing
Biggles!
We didn't have to walk far, because the Nieuport was the first plane, and
quite rightly
because it actually was Swedens first millitary plane, happily there was no
pilot in it,
the pilot was in the Tummelisa. The Nieuport  IV last flew in 1962 so it is
all complete
and  theoretically flyable. Using the flash was no probelm so I just hope
everything has
worked, I took half a film on the Nieuport and most of the rest on the
Phönix, I can 
save the Breguet and Macchi for another time, there probably will be another
time
because I behaved and only spent my allotted time at the museum (we were in
a hurry).
After spending 45 minutes on OT aircraft I wizzed round the rest in 15
minutes, they 
had the nose off the SAAB B18 bomber which was interesting, they fished it
up  from a 
harbour a few years ago, and now they are re-instrumenting it. It really is
a magnificent
museum, the aircraft are in good condition, but not silly condition, you
really experience
them as aircraft not just objects. I will be back with some OT reflections
another day.
/Neil
 

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:06:22 -0500
From: RadspadMike@netscape.net
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: The darn thing works!!
Message-ID: <5E5EBD01.54D8C957.3E0364A1@netscape.net>

Hi Jim,

Yes, I tried to send a photo of a camera installation in the observer's cockpit, but I'm not sure there was room for both a camera and a radio installation.  Apparently your mailbox was full.  I tried later to one of the alternative addresses you gave me.  Did you get it?

The Fokker D.VII is pretty thick in 1/28 scale.  I plan on cutting horizontal slots in the aileron/wing mating edges and burying the hinge leaves inside, maybe even widening the slots a little so that the round part will be partially concealed, using epoxy glue.  Depends on how far I can bury them and still move the aileron. If I need to grind them a little, that's ok. 

Looks like I'll have to take a trip to Denver to see the Salmson when it's finished and visit the Lowry museum.  Of course the museum is going to allow visitors to wiggle the joystick and see the flying surfaces move, right?

Mike K. 
Jim Landon wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Before I forget, are you the one who said they tried to send me a photo of a 
> Salmson observer's cockpit, but my email account was full or something?  Or 
> did I dream that?
> 
> Glad you found the hinges.  Seems like they'd be too big for 1/28 but maybe 
> you can grind 'em down.
> 
> I wonder if anybody ever has made an operating joystick and control surfaces 
> in a smaller scale than 1:16?

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:20:34 -0600
From: "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Ni.17 Cockpit Color Question
Message-ID: <saaca2ff.013@mail1-fs.amerus.com>

Ken is looking for interior information, which is well covered in the Albatros Datafile special as well as Windsock, both of which have published color photos of the extant machine in Brussels.

The Nieuport factory used a method of thin wooden strips to form complex shapes that would not be easy or possible using the prefered plywood.  On the Brussels example, this is fairly dark, IIRC, and forms the majority of the side walls of the cockpit.

There IS a lighter colored plywood box on the port side, that houses the take-up reel for the ammunition belt.

My interpretation of these items on my 1/48 N.17 is on Allan's web-site.

Eduard did a very good job with the details of the interior, bu almost nothing is visible when the model is complete, owing to the small opening and dark interior.

HTH

Lance



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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:46:54 -0500
From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Book Requests
Message-ID: <OFF5DB7C5A.5F00A4B0-ON85256A0D.005BF4CA@hyperion.com>


Hi Folks,
Anybody have the Windsock Datafile special "Gotha" that they no longer need
or want? I am also looking for the Albatros Pub. special " Albatros
Fighters". Let me know.  Trade or purchase.

Regards,
John



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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:55:45 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Cool
Message-ID: <4b.89e2b0b.27de5991@aol.com>

In a message dated 3/12/01 6:15:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, lemen@x25.net 
writes:

<< It is
 a wooded area with a grass field strip and Railroad Model fir type trees in
 the back, but, a "Hanger Motif" is not much more difficult to make up.  RK
 has done some great work in that department.  I can not recall exactly but
 it seems I remember one with a cow in it.
 
 Lee M. >>

I took some thick cardboard, glued it to a sheet of Masonite (hardboard) and 
when the glue had dried, I lifted a corner of the cardboard and peeled the 
top layers away, leaving a dense fuzzy surface. I worked this over with 
various shades of green, yellow and brown spray(can) paint, which made the 
individual card fibers stiffen and stand up. Looks like crap when viewed from 
above, but at scale eye level, through a lense, it looks pretty neat. With my 
airbrushed-on-board sky backdrop, it gets the job done, and it's quick and 
easy to drag out for a photo session.
Oh- the cow was in my Jenny diorama....nibbling on wingtip streamers (and was 
the most likely culprit responsible for those...uh..."land mine" deposits)!
RK

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:20:18 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: captured terrorist
Message-ID: <00ab01c0ab18$b982dd60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

EXTRA! EXTRA!
DANGEROUS FOREIGNER BANNED FROM THE U.S.A.
REUTERS DENVER (CO) March 11th- On yesterday's evening the speaker for the
U.S. Immigration Dept. and a group of representatives of some government
contra-intelligence agencies offered an improvised press conference in the
State's Capitol Building, about the seize and further imprisonment of a
dangerous alien who prowled Denver's streets.
According with special agent Dan Tana, the prisioner is a psychopatyc
individual who traveled from Argentina (a primitive latin american country)
with the intention to cause harm to a person and properties with a so-called
"finger chopping machine". The man, who remains in delirious state, claims
that he's alone in his mission, but investigators discovered that the weapon
he carried would have been manufactured in the U.K., Canada, Luxembourg,
Germany, Australia or even in the USA. Police organizations in said
countries are already making arrests on suspicious organizations and website
masters that could have acted as accesories.
The FBI, meanwhile, relocated a man from the whereabouts of Denver into his
Witness Relocation Program as one of the possible targets of the south
american terrorist. The director of the Rocky Mountains Aviation Museum
deplored the action carried by FBI officials but refused to explain why he
reserved an empty glass case on his Early Flight exhibits. Unofficially,
police officers disclosed that other individuals have been warned about
being targets for this lone terrorist in California and Florida.
Argentinian diplomats, to this time, refuse to accept the dangerous criminal
to enter the country again and an informal agreement has placed the
prisioner in a confinement on an international Polar base.



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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:18:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi
Subject: Web Page and Next Week No Admin
Message-ID: <200103121918.OAA04670@pease1.sr.unh.edu>


Hi all,

   Eric Morelock sent a couple nice images of the 1/35 Emhar Whippet he
recently finished - good job Eric!

   Also, From March 17th-24th I'll be out of the country for my annual 
vacation to St. Martin N.A. (Carribian). I may log in once over the week 
via a cyber-cafe to empty my mailbox, but besides that I'll be unavailable.
Please hold submissions that week, or send to Matt Bittner. I'll be too 
hung-over and sunburned when I get back on the 26th to handle too many :-)

That is all.....
Allan

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:20:06 EST
From: MAnde72343@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Web Page and Next Week No Admin
Message-ID: <cf.376bf3f.27de7b66@aol.com>


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Have a nice time in the sun, Alan
Merrill (who had to take the screen off his storm door to dig snow away from 
his front door this AM)

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:27:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan Wright <aew@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Web Page and Next Week No Admin
Message-ID: <200103121927.OAA04776@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

> Have a nice time in the sun, Alan
> Merrill (who had to take the screen off his storm door to dig snow away from 
> his front door this AM)

I'm there man - this week we got 44 inches of snow - 30 Monday-Wednesday
and another 14 on Friday - sheesh I need some sun!

Al

P.S. You need to turn off MIME encoding Merril

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:46:06 -0500
From: "Muth and Zulick" <artzulick@ptd.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Nieuport IV
Message-ID: <002101c0ab2d$1643e440$0100005a@ptd.net>

I don't know if it was a Nieuport or not, but I remember a nice biplane on
floats with a Sopwith feel to it that was at a Technical Museum in
Stockholm.
Mike Muth
----- Original Message -----
From: <mdf@mars.ark.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Friday,March 09,2001 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Nieuport IV


> Speaking of Nieuport IV's - I have just gotten confirmtion that the
> Swedes had a Nieuport IV on floats...(now if I only had a shot of
> something other than a bad museum model in a case...)
> It'll be posted (I imagine) at http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/index.htm
> Very interesting site that the owner is expanding at a furious rate.
>
> Mike
>
> Matt Bittner wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:08:56 -0500 (EST), Crawford Neil wrote:
> >
> > > Well Alberto if  you're listening, and anyone else 'cos it's OT,
> > > I just rung the Air Force Museum about poking my camera lens
> > > into the Nieuport IV cockpit, no problem they said, so I will be
> > > going past on Saturday, see what I can do. There was a problem
> > > though, they have put a pilot in it, silly thing to do, I bet they
won't
> > > haul him out for me!
> >
> > I would like to plead with you to submit the photos to the site.
> > Please?  If the upcoming A-Model kit is any good, we need good
> > references.  TIA!
> >
> > Matt Bittner
> >
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:40:50 -0500
From: "Muth and Zulick" <artzulick@ptd.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Fw: Creepy coincidences
Message-ID: <000401c0ab2c$58838960$0100005a@ptd.net>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Muth and Zulick" <artzulick@ptd.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Friday,March 09,2001 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Creepy coincidences


> 
> > Boy, how I NEED a mug shot of Matt to do this cartoon!
> > D.
> Simple....red striped shirt , tiny blue beret and a very small mustache.
> Mike Muth
> 
> 


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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:50:41 -0500
From: "TOM PLESHA" <APPMAN@worldnet.att.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Super Scale 1:48 4-Color Lozenge Upper and Lower
Message-ID: <005401c0ab2d$b8f95580$db744c0c@tom>

Todd-
If they are still available I'll take them?
TP
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From: "Todd Hayes" <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 2:30 AM
Subject: Super Scale 1:48 4-Color Lozenge Upper and Lower


> If anyone wants them, I have some of the above decals
> to give away for postage.  Personally, I think they're
> some of the worst looking lozenge (colorwise).  Let's
> do this off-list.
> 
> Todd
> 
> __________________________________________________
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> Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
> http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:51:30 -0500
From: "Muth and Zulick" <artzulick@ptd.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Hi - Tech Nieuport 24
Message-ID: <004c01c0ab2d$d5c7e820$0100005a@ptd.net>

I'm with Todd on this one. I have both and Tom's seems to be a better deal,
as long as you have the Eduard kit. The fuselage stringers look crisper on
Tom's and there are 3 great decal options.
Mike Muth
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Hayes" <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Saturday,March 10,2001 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: Hi - Tech Nieuport 24


> It's a hybrid kit.  The wings and assorted parts are
> from the Eduard Nie.17.  The fuselage is an injected
> version of Hi-Tech's Nie.24/27 conversion kit.  The
> p.e. is by Eduard.  I wasn't too pleased with it
> myself.  The Eduard inj. parts are up to their usual
> standards but the Hi-Tech pieces are a little crude.
> It looks like it could be built into a nice kit but I
> prefer the Tom's Mworks conversion with the Eduard
> kit.
>
> Todd
>
> --- CAUhlir@aol.com wrote:
> > I just noticed this kit in the Squadron mailer.  Any
> > body got any opinions on
> > this thing?
> >
> > Candice
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:57:36 EST
From: REwing@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Book Requests
Message-ID: <ee.12517a1c.27de8430@aol.com>


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> Hi Folks,
> Anybody have the Windsock Datafile special "Gotha" that they no longer need
> or want? I am also looking for the Albatros Pub. special "Albatros
> Fighters." Let me know.  Trade or purchase.
> 
> Regards,
> 

     Hi John,
          The list library has the "Albatros Fighters" to lend out, if that 
would be of any    
     help.
-Rick-
List Librarian


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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hi Folks,
<BR>Anybody have the Windsock Datafile special "Gotha" that they no longer need
<BR>or want? I am also looking for the Albatros Pub. special "Albatros
<BR>Fighters." Let me know. &nbsp;Trade or purchase.
<BR>
<BR>Regards,
<BR>John</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hi John,
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The list library has the "Albatros Fighters" to lend out, if that 
<BR>would be of any &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;help.
<BR><P ALIGN=CENTER>-Rick-
<BR>List Librarian
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:02:34 -0500
From: "TOM PLESHA" <APPMAN@worldnet.att.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: David Charles
Message-ID: <000b01c0ab2f$622cf520$4a5b570c@tom>

Hi David-
I tried to contact you off list no luck.
TP


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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:01:10 
From: "Jim Landon" <thegreatlandoni@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: The darn thing works!!
Message-ID: <F70XyCTr9rf3yXvEbjk0000772a@hotmail.com>

Hi Mike,

By now you probably have read my off-list email where I said that I did get 
the photo this morning.  That was my work email address and I had not been 
to work for a week.

<<...I'm not sure there was room for both a camera and a radio 
installation.>>

Yup.  There's a photo on my website that shows 'em both in there at the same 
time.  You can barely see the front of the camera though- that's why I was 
seeking more info. Go to:  http://communities.msn.com/Salmson2A2 Then go to 
the page "Observer's cockpit interior, wireless and guns" and you'll find it 
near the bottom.

<<I plan on cutting horizontal slots in the aileron/wing mating edges and 
burying the hinge leaves inside, ...>>

Great idea.  But watch out that the hinge will move in both directions when 
the leaves are flat.

<<Looks like I'll have to take a trip to Denver to see the Salmson when it's 
finished and visit the Lowry museum.>>

We have a nine bedroom house so we can save you the cost of a motel.

<<Of course the museum is going to allow visitors to wiggle the joystick and 
see the flying surfaces move, right?>>

That's what's so insane about doing moveable parts.  My Thomas Morse model 
at the museum has all it's control surfaces moveable from the cockpit, but 
it's sealed inside a Plexiglas cube.  But there's a certain mystique about 
being able to say on the description that "The control surfaces operate from 
the cockpit".

And besides, it's pure absolute FUN.  And fun to show the movement to the 
guys at the museum before it's put on display.

Thanks again for taking the time to scan the photo for me.

Jim

>From: RadspadMike@netscape.net
>Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org
>To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@wwi-models.org>
>Subject: Re: The darn thing works!!
>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:10:57 -0500 (EST)
>
>Hi Jim,
>
>Yes, I tried to send a photo of a camera installation in the observer's 
>cockpit, but I'm not sure there was room for both a camera and a radio 
>installation.  Apparently your mailbox was full.  I tried later to one of 
>the alternative addresses you gave me.  Did you get it?
>
>The Fokker D.VII is pretty thick in 1/28 scale.  I plan on cutting 
>horizontal slots in the aileron/wing mating edges and burying the hinge 
>leaves inside, maybe even widening the slots a little so that the round 
>part will be partially concealed, using epoxy glue.  Depends on how far I 
>can bury them and still move the aileron. If I need to grind them a little, 
>that's ok.
>
>Looks like I'll have to take a trip to Denver to see the Salmson when it's 
>finished and visit the Lowry museum.  Of course the museum is going to 
>allow visitors to wiggle the joystick and see the flying surfaces move, 
>right?
>
>Mike K.
>Jim Landon wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Before I forget, are you the one who said they tried to send me a photo 
>of a
> > Salmson observer's cockpit, but my email account was full or something? 
> Or
> > did I dream that?
> >
> > Glad you found the hinges.  Seems like they'd be too big for 1/28 but 
>maybe
> > you can grind 'em down.
> >
> > I wonder if anybody ever has made an operating joystick and control 
>surfaces
> > in a smaller scale than 1:16?
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:03:19 EST
From: REwing@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: captured terrorist
Message-ID: <ae.11e4e079.27de8587@aol.com>


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> EXTRA! EXTRA!
> DANGEROUS FOREIGNER BANNED FROM THE U.S.A.
> 

ROTFLMAO!!!!
Now, how do I get half chewed Frosted Flakes off the computer screen and out 
of my keyboard?!!
-Rick-

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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">EXTRA! EXTRA!
<BR>DANGEROUS FOREIGNER BANNED FROM THE U.S.A.
<BR>REUTERS DENVER (CO) </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>ROTFLMAO!!!!
<BR>Now, how do I get half chewed Frosted Flakes off the computer screen and out 
<BR>of my keyboard?!!
<BR>-Rick-</FONT></HTML>

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:14:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Super Scale 1:48 4-Color Lozenge Upper and Lower
Message-ID: <20010312201436.5276.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com>

They're yours, Tom.  Give your address and I'll send
them off.  $2 for postage will work.  You can send the
cash after you get the decals.

Todd


--- TOM PLESHA <APPMAN@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Todd-
> If they are still available I'll take them?
> TP
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Todd Hayes" <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list"
> <wwi@wwi-models.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 2:30 AM
> Subject: Super Scale 1:48 4-Color Lozenge Upper and
> Lower
> 
> 
> > If anyone wants them, I have some of the above
> decals
> > to give away for postage.  Personally, I think
> they're
> > some of the worst looking lozenge (colorwise). 
> Let's
> > do this off-list.
> > 
> > Todd
> > 
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great
> prices.
> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> > 
> 


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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