WWI Digest 3178 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) =?iso-8859-1?Q?details_about_Miss_Am=E9lie_=28Melli=29_Beese_was_RE:_Rump?= by "Gaston Graf" 2) RE: How many ASA? Urgent! by "Gaston Graf" 3) RE: Rumpler Taube picture on ebay by "Gaston Graf" 4) Re: Rumpler Taube picture on ebay by "Hans Trauner" 5) Re: How many ASA? Urgent! by "Lee J. Mensinger" 6) Re: How many ASA? Urgent! by "Hans Trauner" 7) DH-4 BOOK by "TOM PLESHA" 8) I'm back - as for the show.... by "DAVID BURKE" 9) Ni.17 Cockpit Color Question by "Ken Acosta" 10) Re: Ni.17 Cockpit Color Question by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 11) Re: I'm back - as for the show.... by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 12) Re: How many ASA? Urgent! by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 13) Re: How many ASA? Urgent! by KarrArt@aol.com 14) Re: I'm back - as for the show.... by "Lee J. Mensinger" 15) Re: The darn thing works!! by "Jim Landon" 16) Re: The darn thing works!! by "Jim Landon" 17) Re: The darn thing works!! by "Jim Landon" 18) Photo resolution was Gotha Build Page by "Jim Landon" 19) RE: I'm back - as for the show.... by John & Allison Cyganowski 20) Re: The darn thing works!! by "Jim Landon" 21) Re: Taube by pugs99@att.net 22) Re: I'm back - as for the show.... by "Jim Landon" 23) Books for sale by "Bob Pearson" 24) Re: I'm back - as for the show.... by "DAVID BURKE" 25) Re: I'm back - as for the show.... by "DAVID BURKE" 26) Super Scale 1:48 4-Color Lozenge Upper and Lower by Todd Hayes 27) Restrictions on photography - was Re: How many ASA? Urgent! by David Fleming 28) Re: Vickers Gun & Synch by "D Charles" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:33:38 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?details_about_Miss_Am=E9lie_=28Melli=29_Beese_was_RE:_Rump?= Message-ID: Friends, In fact I own a very nice book about the history of Johannisthal, printed in GDR 1987. There is a 6 page chapter going only about Miss Melli Beese, who was the first German Lady Pilot in history of aviation. Her complete firstname was Amélie, called Melli. She went through a lot of trouble until she finally was allowed to learn to fly and obtained her flying license with the number 115 on her 25th birthday. It is said that a lot of the male pilots played tricks on her to force her in that way giving up flying. For instance on the first checkflight for her license her engine suddenly stopped in the first turn and she had to land immediately. The reason was an empty fuel tank because "somebody" had drained the fuel off. Some more data: - married on Jan 25, 1913 the French aviator Charles Boutard - was also first woman to setup a flying school in Germany. Address: Kaiser-Wilhelm Strasse 45 (today Sterndamm 83) - she too build Taube aircraft in the sheds of her flying school, like so many other did. - the type of her Taube was called "Monoplace Boutard" and was sold for 12 000 Mark which was far less than for an original Rumpler Taube. - she named her aircraft after pilots who died in crashes, like Georg Schendel or Alfred Pietschker. Sad end of Mellis flying school came with the beginning of WW1. She had constructed a flying boat together with Hermann Dorner and wanted to start for a flying boat contest from Warnemünde in early August. On August 1st, her bright shining white aircraft laid in Warnow, together with other aircraft that wanted to participate in the contest. But on that day the German Marine Command requested her and her husband to leave the port of Warnemünde immediately. In Johannisthal she was not allowed to enter the airfield anymore because she counted as a foreigner due to her marriage with her French husband. Her access card to the airfield got confiscated and one month later her husband got temporarily arrested. They put a guard of the Johannisthal Marineflieger Korps in front of her house and the sheds of her flying school got locked. That was the end of a flying school which never encountered an accident. The chapter features 6 pictures of Melli Beese as well as a pencil drawing of her flying boat and an advertising of her flying school. If somebody is interested to get the pics please email me and I'll scan them for you. I received this book as a gift from a GDR journalist in 1988. I met him because of an article I read in a GDR modeling magazine about his models and his private aircraft exhibition in his garden so I contacted him and he invited me for a meeting. He lived in a village near Dresden. I cannot remember anymore what the aircraft types in his garden was but there was a trainer jet from Czechia and a biplane trainer. The jet had a ground unit to power the electrics and the man offered me to dress me up like a GDR pilot and put me into the cockpit which I did not refuse indeed. I remember the gunsights being of the same diamond type than the P-51 has in MS Combatflightsim today :o). There sre still some pics existing in some of my shoeboxes. The journalist also owned an impressive private collection of models. One of his gems was a genuine part of a B-52 bomber shot down over Vietnam. He said he had received the part from a Vietnamese journalist. The book about Johannisthal features a lot of interesting pics about this period of time. There is an AEG G-Bomber and a twin fuselage Ago C type, pics about transportation and construction of various aircraft types, ads, Zeppelins, crashes, licenses, persons like Adolphe Pégoud, the fist helicopters in 1925 and many other strange things men wanted to fly with... The complete title of the book is: "ALS DIE OLDTIMER FLOGEN - die Geschichte des Flugplatzes Johannisthal". Author was: Dr. Günter Schmitt. Editor was: "Transpress VEB Verlag für Verkehrswesen Berlin". Maybe one can still find it in antiquaric bookstores? I doubt if there was a reprint of it after the Iron Courtain fell. hope this helps for information ;o) Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de PS: I now suddenly got aware of the fact that my youngest daughter, whos name is Melina, is usually called MELLI too... I hope this isn't a bad sign for her future. The oldest one already catched the horse virus. If the youngest one will catch the aviation virus... Oh well, we then go flying after the riding lessons. > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Lee J. > Mensinger > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 10:37 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Rumpler Taube picture on ebay > > > > --------------09AA69082D53CCA26C3DFC0D > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > It might be possible to check out the validity of the lady. She > was Fraulien, > (single woman), Beese in a Rumpler Taube and the photo was taken > at Johannisthal > Airport in Germany. I believe the airfield still exists. > > Gaston Graf probably knows if it does or not and he might have > access to books > on early German Women Pilots. > > I believe we have a member or two in Germany who might answer the > question. > > Lee M. > > > > KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/11/01 11:27:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > Ray_Boorman@telus.net writes: > > > > << All the talk of Taubes had me searching Ebay. There is a > nice postcard on > > ebay of a Lady in the cockpit of a Taube. Not suggesting anyone buy the > > postcard, more an interesting view. I wonder if the Lady was > actually the > > pilot?? > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1121780748 > > >> > > > > Most likely it is Mellie Beese, famous pre-war lady pilot. > > RK > > --------------09AA69082D53CCA26C3DFC0D > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > It might be possible to check out the validity of the lady. She > was Fraulien, > (single woman), Beese in a Rumpler Taube and the photo was taken > at Johannisthal > Airport in Germany.  I believe the airfield still exists. >

Gaston Graf probably knows if it does or not and he might have access > to books on early German Women Pilots. >

I believe we have a member or two in Germany who might answer > the question. >

Lee M. >
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  >

KarrArt@aol.com wrote: >

In a message dated 3/11/01 11:27:09 AM > Pacific Standard > Time, >
Ray_Boorman@telus.net writes: >

<< All the talk of Taubes had me searching Ebay. There is a nice > postcard on >
 ebay of a Lady in the cockpit of a Taube. Not suggesting anyone > buy the >
 postcard, more an interesting view. I wonder if the Lady was > actually the >
 pilot?? >
  >

  href="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=11217 > 80748">http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item= > 1121780748 >
  >> >

Most likely it is Mellie Beese, famous pre-war lady pilot. >
RK

> > > --------------09AA69082D53CCA26C3DFC0D-- > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:37:23 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: I too used the flash in the German Museum in Munich and nobody arrested me for that. Maybe they did not want to give Luxembourg a reason to declare war on Germany because they feared we will claim back the region of Trier? We don't have enough beds for all the POWs anyway. tataaaaaaaaaaaa........ Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > >Mmmm. I've never had problems with using flash in any UK aircraft Museum. > >Tripods, now that's another story !!!! > > > >D > > > No rule without exceptions. They simply don't want to have > professional pics > taken, so they don't like flashlight, tripods etc. But usually > you only get > the right information when it is too late, and that's why I trust only in > high ASA films. > > Hans > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:40:45 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Rumpler Taube picture on ebay Message-ID: Interesting details - Danke Hans! Maybe the fact that she committed suicide was ommitted by the GDR author because he was not welcome to write that? Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > She is it. Fraeulein Melli Beese was the first woman in Germany to get a > pilot's licence (1911). Exactly the same picture can be found in > ' Das Buch > der deutschen Luftfahrtgeschichte' by Peter Supf, page 383. Her > correct name > was Amelie Hedwig Beese, daughter of a saxony architect, born on 13th Sept > 1886 in Laubegast near Dresden. Before she was fascinated with flying she > started a career as an artist, studying in Stockholm as a sculptor. She > learned flying from Thelen, Mossner and Helmuth Hirth. She got her licence > on her birthday, 13th Sept. 1911. In 1912 she and her later > husband Charles > Boutard started to run a flying school. Both got interned when war broke > out. After the war she tried to start her career again, but failed. She > committed suicide on 22th Dec.1925 > > Hans > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:57:57 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Rumpler Taube picture on ebay Message-ID: <00b101c0aa7e$b7260fa0$e4a172d4@custom-pc> >Interesting details - Danke Hans! Maybe the fact that she committed suicide >was ommitted by the GDR author because he was not welcome to write that? Keine Ahnung. Wäre aber typisch. I have no idea. But would be typical for that time. H. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:09:57 -0600 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: <3AAC05C5.6416C1B5@x25.net> I believe that the restrictions on Flash Light in Museums started many yeasrs ago when Flash could on occassions explode. I am not talking about the powder flash guns, but, the bulbs and a less known fact that people are careless and casual often leaving th used bulbs laying around so some other person had to clean them up. An exploding bulb could fly up and damage Museum Paintings, Wall Hangings and other things like aircraft fuselage and wing covering. The glass was coated with a plastic to keep it from shattering, but, parts would sometimes still come loose and they would be very hot and sticky. They could but rarely did start fires. They would damage Art works. I was taking pictures during those times and they were a bit dangerous. Later the museums were not as plagued by the bulbs when the electronic flash camee into use but they used the secondary excuse that it interferred with the viewing pleasure of other visitors. So we have " No Flash Allowed" in a number of locations. I believe that is as close as we can get to why it is the way it is. It will not help to argue. Their minds are made up. Lee M. Gaston Graf wrote: > I too used the flash in the German Museum in Munich and nobody arrested me > for that. Maybe they did not want to give Luxembourg a reason to declare war > on Germany because they feared we will claim back the region of Trier? > > We don't have enough beds for all the POWs anyway. > > tataaaaaaaaaaaa........ > > Gaston Graf > (ggraf@vo.lu) > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:24:53 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: <00db01c0aa82$7a453440$e4a172d4@custom-pc> >So we have " No Flash Allowed" in a number of locations. Usually you get no explains why flashlight ist not allowed, or even worse, photography is completly forbidden. In last cast it's a sure sign that they even DON'T have a catalogue or ready-made slides. As OT modelling is only my hobby within a hobby I am a regular museum visitor, mainly archeological themes. The service for the puplic is usually gruelsome. No photos, no catalogues, opening times with 3 hours lunch break. I am an active member of a local archeological society and we run our own museum. Everything is allowed, only if you want to use your pics for professional use we want to have written the source correctly. Some museums are run under the motto: All clear, if we only don't have those visitors. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:58:03 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: DH-4 BOOK Message-ID: <000501c0aa87$1ccd5720$c3444c0c@tom> If anyone is interested, e-bay has on it: de havilland dh-4 by walter j. boyne item:1220335000 There are other wwi aviation books there also. TP ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:11:42 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: I'm back - as for the show.... Message-ID: <001301c0aa89$063741e0$6f131a3f@oemcomputer> Hi Y'all, Well, I am back in the fold after a particularly good contest in Mobile. The weather was gorgeous, the mood was right, and I do not hesitate that our show hit a real home run. In this day and age, when we wonder if our hobby is dying out, it is nice to see the bunch that we had. In a mere 2 years, we have doubled our number of entrants to 90-something. Each person entered an average of 4 models; I had told the Contest Director that I was expecting around 350 entries. Last year, we had 268. This year, it was 335. Thanks to my old pal Ernie Thomas, as well as another gentleman who used an Aurora Gotha kit to make a G.IV, I was able to justify making the Rigged A/C split. Rigged or not, Ernie swept up the plaques. He also did well with the figures. I was disappointed that my Atlanta comrades were a no-show, but hey - maybe they'll make it next year. They will likely face some good competition. There wasn't very much in the way of crappy work evident, and some absolutely stunning figures there! The vendors were busy, and I was able to grab another Eduard SSW D.III and a Revell 1/28 Camel (this one will definitely remain a Clerget-powered machine!!). As I was the Head Judge again this year, I did not enter any categories. However, my reward was the congratulations that I got on a well-run show. As our Club President noted - our Awards Ceremony started ON TIME! We even had a good bit of slack time between tallying votes and the Awards! I credit this to the efficient work of the Judges, their familiarity with the subjects, and the efficiency of the other Contest Staff, who handled the paperwork and got things all tallied and recorded rather quickly. I'm still tired from it, but I'm glad to be home and back, and ready to get back to adding the ribs to the Gotha wings! DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:34:10 -0600 From: "Ken Acosta" To: Cc: "Ken Acosta" Subject: Ni.17 Cockpit Color Question Message-ID: All- I need the wisdom of a listee who's built the Eduard Ni.17 Profi and who still has the instructions. For the wood paneling on the INSIDE of the cockpit, the instructions call for (among other options) Tamiya XF-9, "Mahogany." I picked up a jar of XF-9 yesterday and it's labeled as "Hull Red." It's a deep red-brown color and I have no idea if it approximates mahogany. I looked around in the Tamiya paint rack to see if there was another option that might be labeled as mahogany, but no joy. Did Eduard mis-label the instructions or did Tamiya mis-label this batch of XF-9 jars? Does the wood paneling in the Ni.17 cockpit actually look like the deep red-brown that's in this jar? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. TIA- KA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:37:28 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Ni.17 Cockpit Color Question Message-ID: <31.119dbf6f.27dd8258@aol.com> Hi Ken, just to gave some type of close answer here, I got out my bottle of XF9 and my book of wood species called "What wood is that?" and checked the real wood sample from the book against the bottle and the colors are not close. The unfinished sample is more golden toned and lighter. I then held the wood sample against a painted ship bottom that I have that was painted with XF9 and the XF9 is still much darker. A closer match is a finished piece of mahogany with semi gloss finish to the XF9. Mahogany as it ages or if it is varnished does become darker and closer in color tones to the XF9 but not entirely. I think it's much to dark for use in small scale interiors, most likely it will look almost black in such a tiny closed space. The XF9 did come close to a wood called Padouk though. My recommendation is to mix the XF9 with clear yellow or orange to change the tone. Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:50:45 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: I'm back - as for the show.... Message-ID: <001001c0aa96$db866c10$eb3e183f@cyrixp166> Dave, Would you happen to remeber the name of that fellow with the Gotha G.IV? Cyg. > Thanks to my old pal Ernie Thomas, as well as another gentleman who used > an Aurora Gotha kit to make a G.IV, I was able to justify making the Rigged > A/C split. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:55:54 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: <001b01c0aa97$93718d50$eb3e183f@cyrixp166> Yes...but there was something ....exhilarating about incinerating a Brillow pad inside of a plastic coated glass bulb! I was thinking the other day about times changing & things we don't see anymore. Flash bulbs was one thing that came to mind. Regards, Cyg. > Later the museums were not as plagued by the bulbs when the electronic flash > camee into use but they used the secondary excuse that it interferred with the > viewing pleasure of other visitors. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:19:14 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: <104.182685.27dd8c22@aol.com> In a message dated 3/11/01 6:04:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, janah@worldnet.att.net writes: << Yes...but there was something ....exhilarating about incinerating a Brillow pad inside of a plastic coated glass bulb! I was thinking the other day about times changing & things we don't see anymore. Flash bulbs was one thing that came to mind. Regards, Cyg. >> That hot sizzling sound as the glass bubbled and frothed! On photography in general in museums, a docent at the old Getty Art and Antiquities Museum told me that all the light exposure would add up- if everybody who came to the museum started flashing pictures, old paintings and such would suffer noticable fading. Maybe so- I tend to fade when exposed to too much light..... RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:42:49 -0600 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I'm back - as for the show.... Message-ID: <3AAC37A9.BCBD3910@x25.net> Try this one: Dennis Ugulano His plane is at: http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Lee M. John & Allison Cyganowski wrote: > Dave, > > Would you happen to remeber the name of that fellow with the Gotha G.IV? > > Cyg. > > > > Thanks to my old pal Ernie Thomas, as well as another gentleman who used > > an Aurora Gotha kit to make a G.IV, I was able to justify making the > Rigged > > A/C split. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:32:56 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The darn thing works!! Message-ID: Hi Mike, Before I forget, are you the one who said they tried to send me a photo of a Salmson observer's cockpit, but my email account was full or something? Or did I dream that? Glad you found the hinges. Seems like they'd be too big for 1/28 but maybe you can grind 'em down. I wonder if anybody ever has made an operating joystick and control surfaces in a smaller scale than 1:16? Jim >From: RadspadMike@netscape.net >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: The darn thing works!! >Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:39:40 -0500 (EST) > >Congrats, Jim. I found some of the hinges you were talking about at Hobby >Lobby and am going to use them on my 1/28 Fokker D.VII. . . .but connect >them to the joystick - - I don't think so. > >Mike K. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:42:42 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The darn thing works!! Message-ID: Lee said: <> Sorry. I couldn't get the wireless gear to work because nobody had one of the parts I needed. ;-) <> I haven't made the prop yet, so boy am I glad you alerted me that it needs to be variable pitch. ;-) I would have built the prop with a fixed pitch and then everybody would have laughed at me behind my back. ;-) <> He he he. <> I did. That's why this reply is so belated. Jim onlyknowstwoplanes Landon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:50:46 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The darn thing works!! Message-ID: RK speaketh: <> Well, duh. Of course. And also when my eyes are open and I'm supposed to be doing something else, like my job, or listening to swmbo, or sitting in church, or or or ... Jim itsallieverthinkabout Landon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 04:18:36 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Photo resolution was Gotha Build Page Message-ID: Dennis said: <> Do you mean JPEG? I scan my 4 X 6 prints and initially they might be as big as 4 or 5 MB, but after cropping and reducing the size to fit a monitor screen, and converting to JPG they come out between 30K and 150K depending on how big and detailed they are. I could make my pics sharper if I had 8 X 10 enlargements made first before scanning. If I was made of money. <> Thanks. Jim startingthepilotsseat Landon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:35:19 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: I'm back - as for the show.... Message-ID: <01C0AA84.0A6881C0.janah@worldnet.att.net> I am less interested in the airplane than the person. I think I might know the fellow. Thaks for the link though. I'll definitely have a look. Regards, Cyg. -----Original Message----- From: Lee J. Mensinger [SMTP:lemen@x25.net] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 9:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: I'm back - as for the show.... Try this one: Dennis Ugulano His plane is at: http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Lee M. John & Allison Cyganowski wrote: > Dave, > > Would you happen to remeber the name of that fellow with the Gotha G.IV? > > Cyg. > > > > Thanks to my old pal Ernie Thomas, as well as another gentleman who used > > an Aurora Gotha kit to make a G.IV, I was able to justify making the > Rigged > > A/C split. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 04:36:57 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The darn thing works!! Message-ID: Matt said : <> Thanks Matt. Very kind of you. This *IS* an insane asylum isn't it? ;-) Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 04:47:12 +0000 From: pugs99@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Taube Message-ID: <20010312044712.MNVF27784.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Hi Folks, Tom, have you tried your library system? I have been constantly amazed at what I keep finding in the library system here in the Hudson Valley. Also, try you local library book sales. Very often, they get donations from people and sell the books that they feel wouldn't generate any interest if they wereon the shelves taking up precious space. This often happens with "specialized" titles. This past year I have found some gold. Most recently, a copy of "British Aeroplanes 1914-18" was picked up for $7.50!!!! The cover is a worn, the dustjacked is gone, but is an original Putnam Edition!! "Color Profiles of WWI Combat Planes" was had for $5.00. Over the last few years, I have found a Harleyford, several Windsocks, bound Aircraft in Profiles and even one of the Albatros publications "Richthofen". Check to see if your library has it. If it hasn't been checked out in a few years, see if they will sell it to you. Our system does this to periodically free up shelf space by removing titles with little or no "traffic". Good Luck! Regards, John Impenna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 04:55:29 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I'm back - as for the show.... Message-ID: Sir Burke said: <> Congratulations Ern, although David shouldn't have let it slip that the contest was rigged. ;-) And it's good that Ern took time to evaluate the figures as they walked by. See any 36-24-36 ones? ;-) Will we get to see photos? Jim neverenteredacontestinhislife Landon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:11:46 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Books for sale Message-ID: <200103120512.VAA16083@mail.rapidnet.net> Greetings all, A year ago I was contacted by the fellow below about his father's collection of books and journals. They finally have them all cataloged and are looking to find a new home for them, many great titles are mentioned. I am suggesting a time limited auction or perhaps ebay if the list doesn't come through for them. Please contact Kevin directly DO NOT HIT REPLY. .. Bob ---------- To whom it may concern: My name is Kevin Wills. My father was Kelly Wills Jr. At this time my family and I have decided to sell my fathers collection of well over 100 hard-back books, Cross & Cockades, letters and other miscellaneous items pertaining to WWI. We have everything listed and if you would like a copy, or have any questions, please let us know by reaching us at this e-mail address Andy-Girl@msn.com . Thank you. Kevin J. Wills ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:55:58 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: I'm back - as for the show.... Message-ID: <001b01c0aab9$2ab74760$83f91c3f@oemcomputer> > > Will we get to see photos? > > Jim neverenteredacontestinhislife Landon Maybe yes and maybe no. It'll depend if I figured how to use the flash correctly. DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:55:01 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: I'm back - as for the show.... Message-ID: <001a01c0aab9$29eddce0$83f91c3f@oemcomputer> > I am less interested in the airplane than the person. I think I might know > the fellow. Thaks for the link though. I'll definitely have a look. > > Regards, > Cyg. > I didn't find it - it was the 1/48 Gotha G.IV that was made from the Aurora kit. I am afraid that I don't recall the guy's name though. DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:26:43 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Super Scale 1:48 4-Color Lozenge Upper and Lower Message-ID: <20010312072643.47574.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> If anyone wants them, I have some of the above decals to give away for postage. Personally, I think they're some of the worst looking lozenge (colorwise). Let's do this off-list. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:29:03 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Restrictions on photography - was Re: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: <3AAC96DF.F8C62596@dial.pipex.com> Knowing a few people in the Museum business, there are a number of reasons for restricting photography: 1) No tripods - often purely a Health & Safety restriction - and to stop 'non-photographers' being held up by thousands of tripods. Many operate a no tripods without prior permission policy. 2) No Flash - the argument about light affecting the artefacts is the most common reason for banning flash, but other reasons include the aforementioned annoyance to other users, setting off photoelectric fire/burglar alarms, and , perhaps most bizarre, to avoid showing up 'hidden' features in 'darkened displays !' 3) No photography/videoography - an increasing number of Uk Museums have a 'no internal photography' clause, particularly 'Country house' types (Which often have OT displays of weapons etc.). this is designed to prevent theft, the idea being that crooks can work out (a) what they are going to steal and (b) work out the alarms Another one is the 'no commercial photography' one, but if you don't find out about it until after you buy the ticket, the legality could be doubtful...butthat's another story !! D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:47:56 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Re: Vickers Gun & Synch Message-ID: <000001c0aad9$fec93c00$0e29d7d2@charls> >Perhaps someone can help with a couple of items for the Pup I'm doing. >The Vickers ejects shells out the bottom. I presume, because none of my >references have any clear info, that the aluminum tray beneath the gun >catches the shells for removal when on the ground? Hi Tom, I had a similar problem with the DH5. There's a chute to nowhere. I have a diagram of a Pup "chute" (not "collector") which goes towards the bottom of the fuselage. >It appears that the cartridge belt is ejected out a chute on the left side >of the gun, if so, any info on its make-up, size etc.? I have a good pic. of a belt somewhere: of course, can't find it at the moment. But, the same diagram as mentioned above shows an empty belt takeup spool with winding handle projecting through the dash. >Lastly, any info, drawings, etc. on the hydraulic synchronizer pumps used? It would seem that lots of Pups were fitted with either Scarf-Dybovsky Synchronizer gear (RNAS) or Sopwith-Kauper gear. Both of these were of the mechanical linkage type rather than hydraulic. Contact me off list for the diagrams. David ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3178 **********************