WWI Digest 3169 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Datafile Trade by "Ken Acosta" 2) messy desk by Crawford Neil 3) Re: messy desk by Al Superczynski 4) Re: How many ASA? Urgent! by "Ken Acosta" 5) RE: messy desk by "Gaston Graf" 6) Re: photo etch tool - "Hold & Fold" by Al Superczynski 7) volcano wasRe: Building two or more kits at once by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Re: How many ASA? Urgent! by KarrArt@aol.com 9) =?big5?Q?Fw: =A8k=A4H=B6W=A6=DB=ABH=BA=F4=AF=B8=A1]=A5=B2=AC=DD=A1^?= by sales@twshop.com.tw 10) RE: volcano wasRe: Building two or more kits at once by "dfernet0" 11) OT Indiana Jones by "dfernet0" 12) Re: How many ASA? Urgent! by "Hans Trauner" 13) Re: OT street lore by "Hans Trauner" 14) RE: OT Indiana Jones by "dfernet0" 15) Re: OT street lore by Karen Rychlewski 16) RE: FMP's Pfalz TOME by "Graham Hunter" 17) Re: messy desk by "Hans Trauner" 18) Re: messy desk by Allan Wright 19) Re: messy desk by Karen Rychlewski 20) IPMS Northern Va. meeting by "Michael Kendix" 21) Looking For Ni.17 Prop Boss by "Ken Acosta" 22) Re: photo etch tool - "Hold & Fold" by Todd Hayes 23) Re: Looking For Ni.17 Prop Boss by "Lance Krieg" 24) Supercal by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 25) Re: How many ASA? Urgent! by KarrArt@aol.com 26) Re: volcano wasRe: Building two or more kits at once by KarrArt@aol.com 27) Karens Pup by "Paul E. Thompson" 28) RE: Karens Pup by "dfernet0" 29) Mighty Mouse is a liar by "dfernet0" 30) RE: messy desk by "dfernet0" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 10:48:58 -0600 From: "Ken Acosta" To: Subject: Datafile Trade Message-ID: I have a few Datafiles that need a good home. There are also some Datafiles that I still need. I was hoping to run the titles by the List and see if anyone might be interested in a trade. Datafiles needing a home: - #15 Fokker E.III - #25 Fokker D.VIII - #34 Sopwith 1.5 Strutter Datafiles needing MY home: - #3 Albatros D.V - #10 RAF SE5a - #11 Albatros D.II - #18 RAF FE2b - #22 Sopwith Triplane - #32 Spad 13 (Revised) - #36 Nieuport 28 C1 If your collection needs one of my available books and you have one of my needs that you're willing to part with, please contact me off-list to work something out. Thanks- KA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:51:51 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "WW1 list (E-mail)" Subject: messy desk Message-ID: Any list members involved in this? /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:09:26 -0600 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: messy desk Message-ID: <34ffato7t7saffba97m9t5t6gpn16dnfpf@4ax.com> On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:59:11 -0500 (EST), Neil wrote: >Any list members involved in this? Mine's there...... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:09:19 -0600 From: "Ken Acosta" To: , Subject: Re: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: Neil, in a panic, writes: "What's the best film for museum photography? 100 ASA paper film? I use a flash." I've had terrific results with Kodak Royal Gold 200 film used in a good SLR camera with a flash. I've got close-up and overall pics from the USAF Museum in Dayton, the US Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola, the air museum in Quantico, and the NASM (perhaps others, but these are off the top of my head). Royal Gold 200 has proven to be a very solid indoor/outdoor film. Lately it's worked out very well for my first attempt at close-up model photography too. HTH- KA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:09:34 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: messy desk Message-ID: Please specify what desk! Desktop on the puter? Desktop at work? At your modeling room? well, whatever desk you are talking about - ALL of my desks are soon messed up as soon as I started with something, except but for the desktop of the Gatesware on my screen. tröröööööööö............ Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > Any list members involved in this? > /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:19:40 -0600 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: photo etch tool - "Hold & Fold" Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:25:34 -0500 (EST), Gaston wrote: >Does that mean you regret now to haven't learned something useful as you was >still young ;o)? No...... Al http://apollo.up-link.net/~modeleral ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:31:40 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: volcano wasRe: Building two or more kits at once Message-ID: In a message dated 3/8/01 5:06:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, mvj@thetelegram.com writes: << think biggest baddest volcano of that century. Blew it's stack and took most of a Pacific island with it. >> When it blew, it was allegedly heard in London and New York several hours later, and the skies dimmed around the world. I first learned about it from a Mighty Mouse cartoon. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:31:41 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: <67.10b63477.27d91bfd@aol.com> In a message dated 3/8/01 12:23:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, Neil.Crawford@volvo.com writes: << What's the best film for museum photography? 100 ASA paper film? I use a flash. /Neil >> I've shot a lot of indoor museum stuff using 100ASA and flash- and flash is just about a necessity when shooting backlit objects. The meter may say there's plenty of light- don't believe it because the glare fools the meter! 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Building two or more kits at once Message-ID: <005601c0a7f6$87e689c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Robert admitted: > I first learned about it from a Mighty Mouse cartoon. But he once turned a cat inside out pulling the tail from the mouth opening. I tried it, but it didn't worked as expected. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:42:31 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "ww1 list" Subject: OT Indiana Jones Message-ID: <006201c0a7f7$26e9ef80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Yesterday, I saw on the TV "Raiders of the Lost Ark" for the umpteenth time and noticed that the pouch where he carries his loot looks much like an anti-gas pouch as used in WW1 by american or british soldiers. I'm assuming too much? Well, the Webley revolver he uses to kill the sword-toting dervish is typical of the british army in ww1. Has anyone else noticed this or is that I'm obsessed? D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:48:01 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: <005f01c0a7f7$eb8e34e0$25a072d4@custom-pc> Neil, avoid flashlight as fa as you can. I can only speak for european museums, but as a rule you are allowed to take pics everywhere - but without using flashlight. For my museum excursions I always use 800 ASA minimum, 1000 ASA if available. The times when these films had grain like lozenge fabric are over. For any household and collector use they are really fine. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:49:51 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: OT street lore Message-ID: <006a01c0a7f8$2cf8ba40$25a072d4@custom-pc> I am living in Nuernberg, Germany, and we still have Richthofen, Immelmann and Fritz-von-Roeth for street names. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:49:02 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: OT Indiana Jones Message-ID: <006a01c0a7f8$100a1c80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I wrote: > Yesterday, I saw on the TV "Raiders of the Lost Ark" for the umpteenth time > and noticed that the pouch where he carries his loot looks much like an > anti-gas pouch as used in WW1 by american or british soldiers. I didn't find the exact words: I should have written: "Gasmask container pouch worn around the neck by american or british soldiers" D. one of those non-english speakers. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:55:20 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT street lore Message-ID: <3AA7C787.54E729DF@earthlink.net> ...and Moundsville, West Virginia, US, has probably the only airport in the US named Fokker Field (you guys probably thought I was kidding when I mentioned this in an earlier post); I've been told that Fokker trimotors were built nearby in the 20's/30's. Dame Karen Hans Trauner wrote: > I am living in Nuernberg, Germany, and we still have Richthofen, Immelmann > and Fritz-von-Roeth for street names. > > Hans ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:12:07 -0600 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: FMP's Pfalz TOME Message-ID: <000201c0a7fb$4a382fc0$fa0101c0@grahamh> <> Troublemaker, me, no way man ;-) I just can't get past the apparent evidence for lozenge on Holtzem's Pfalz. Although the photos are not the greatest there is a definite shade difference at the wing root on the 3/4 starboard rear shot of his A/C. Plus now I have a picture of the frontal shot that shows clearly leading edge rib tape. And IMNSHO it is not light reflection difference on leading edge silbergrau rib tape. Also in the picture of Holtzem sitting on the wing there appears just right of his elbow a distinctive lozenge shaped dark spot on the wing. One of the theories I have is that maybe the lower wings were changed in the field. That's my story and I'm sticking to it :-) Lozenge Lover, Graham H. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:23:35 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: messy desk Message-ID: <00ce01c0a7fc$e387d120$25a072d4@custom-pc> >Any list members involved in this? >/Neil No! No! No! My advantage is that my twin brother (modelbuilder, too) is a terrible messy! If he loses a small part he has to start a archeological survey. So I see what this means. I always follow the advice I have got when I learned standing on a workbench and handle a file ( 30 years ago): Clean it up! After every session. I even store my paints and glues. You are ill, says my brother. BTW, I would suggest a new gallery on Allan's and Matt's page: Workbenches! Hans ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:33:44 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: messy desk Message-ID: <200103081833.NAA12652@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Someone on the list already maintains a workbench photo archive - I'm too ashamed to show mine....way too many off-topic wargaming miniatures :-) Allan > > >Any list members involved in this? > >/Neil > > No! No! No! My advantage is that my twin brother (modelbuilder, too) is a > terrible messy! If he loses a small part he has to start a archeological > survey. So I see what this means. I always follow the advice I have got when > I learned standing on a workbench and handle a file ( 30 years ago): Clean > it up! After every session. I even store my paints and glues. > > You are ill, says my brother. > > BTW, I would suggest a new gallery on Allan's and Matt's page: Workbenches! > > Hans > =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:26:34 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: messy desk Message-ID: <3AA7CEDA.DE300B1E@earthlink.net> Hey, I like that idea!...how 'bout also 'home display cases/cabinets/shelves'? Would we have to chip in and buy Allan a bigger hard drive??? Dame Karen Hans Trauner wrote: > >snips > BTW, I would suggest a new gallery on Allan's and Matt's page: Workbenches! > > Hans ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 18:31:29 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: IPMS Northern Va. meeting Message-ID: Last night, I attended the Northern Virginia IPMS monthly meeting. We had more than 100 people show up and a large number of kits were brought in for the mnthly contest/display. At the meeting, it was my pleasure to meet new-ish listee Sanjey, who brought along his fine 1/48th scale Eduard Albatros Dr.1. Anyone who tries to make a triplane (except Fokker Dr.1's and Sopwith Triplanes who have those easier poke through the wing interplane struts) has my empathy/admiration. I had never seen this modelled before and I didn't realize that Eduard actually made a kit of it. I thought it needed to be made as a conversion/scratchbuild etc. Also, at the meeting, Bob Wheeler of VLE Models (DFW "Mars", Fokker "Spinne") showed off a few of his scratchbuilt models, including a 1/72nd scale Caproni Ca-3 bomber, and a couple of other off-topic interwar things. Hopefully, I can get hold the pictures that were taken of his Caproni so we can all see. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:55:16 -0600 From: "Ken Acosta" To: Cc: "Ken Acosta" Subject: Looking For Ni.17 Prop Boss Message-ID: All- Just heard from Eric at CSM and he's out of 1/48 prop bosses for quite a while. I need one for my current project and wanted to know if anyone had a set they were willing to part with. Ideally, I'd like to buy a full set, but all I really NEED at the moment is ONE boss for my Ni.17. Can anyone help? TIA- KA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:31:01 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: photo etch tool - "Hold & Fold" Message-ID: <20010308193101.12928.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> You mean like accurate four inch long folds? --- Ernest Thomas wrote: > > > Todd Hayes wrote: > > > > For a probably one time expense of $40, how many > > models could a person build with it? All you > have? > > Can it do anything that can't be done with a ten > buck pair of smooth jaw > hemostats? > E. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:37:48 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Looking For Ni.17 Prop Boss Message-ID: Ken needs 1/48 propeller bosses... or are those "thrust plates"? I've surely got one I can spare, as long as you can supply your own nuts and bolts. Send me your street address and I'll mail one tomorrow. With a Nieuport, you can always use a cone de penetration - a whole different look! LMK... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:15:26 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Supercal Message-ID: Just idly surfing and came across the Hobbycraft Canada website and saw this Supercal advertised. Sort of a do it tourself decals kit designed for the humble ink jet printer. I seem to recall someone mentioning this before but am too lazy to search the site. Anyone had any experience with this stuff? Seems a bit pricey but may be of use. (and visions of 24th scale lozenge danced through his head.) TIA MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:03:10 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: <71.b5e9189.27d93f7e@aol.com> In a message dated 3/8/01 9:48:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, hans.trauner@nefkom.net writes: << Neil, avoid flashlight as fa as you can. I can only speak for european museums, but as a rule you are allowed to take pics everywhere - but without using flashlight. For my museum excursions I always use 800 ASA minimum, 1000 ASA if available. The times when these films had grain like lozenge fabric are over. For any household and collector use they are really fine. Hans >> Yeah, some museums won't allow flash, and in that case, I use 400ASA, set my timer to 1/30sec (or sometimes even 1/15), hold my breath and simulate suspended animation while I gently squeeeeeeeeeze the button. 'Course I do have the metabolism of a garden slug. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:03:11 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: volcano wasRe: Building two or more kits at once Message-ID: <43.11b69c88.27d93f7f@aol.com> In a message dated 3/8/01 9:41:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes: << Robert admitted: > I first learned about it from a Mighty Mouse cartoon. But he once turned a cat inside out pulling the tail from the mouth opening. I tried it, but it didn't worked as expected. D. >> doesn't work using needle nose pliers on a hamster either....... RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 21:10:43 +0100 From: "Paul E. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Karens Pup Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010308210627.00ac3a40@pop.xs4all.nl> Karen, When I still used to enter folk music competitions in Newcastle in the early '80s, me and me mate designed this special cup for particularly gifted indiviuals who had just blasted us out of the water with their prowess. It was double-handled and had steel blades that sprang out when it was picked up. After seeing your Pup, I think I'll give it to you. (Big :), for those who don't get British humour). Paul. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:13:56 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Karens Pup Message-ID: <00dc01c0a80c$50e17280$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I bet that you were very popular at those contests, Paul! :-) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul E. Thompson To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Karens Pup > Karen, > > > When I still used to enter folk music competitions in Newcastle in the > early '80s, me and me mate designed this special cup for particularly > gifted indiviuals who had just blasted us out of the water with their > prowess. It was double-handled and had steel blades that sprang out when it > was picked up. After seeing your Pup, I think I'll give it to you. (Big > :), for those who don't get British humour). > > > > Paul. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:22:11 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Mighty Mouse is a liar Message-ID: <00e401c0a80d$77d89de0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Interesting. I'll never put my confidence again in Mighty Mouse regarding Biology matters. :-) Next time, someone will discover that in fact Mighty Mouse didn't fly. BTW, is there any trick to simulate brass tips on painted propellers? Using gold colored inks or paints seems a bit unrealistic in 1/72 and using golden alluminium paper has proved more than tedious. I'll try to add that in my Pegasus Taube. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 5:10 PM Subject: Re: volcano wasRe: Building two or more kits at once > In a message dated 3/8/01 9:41:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, > dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes: > > << Robert admitted: > > I first learned about it from a Mighty Mouse cartoon. > > But he once turned a cat inside out pulling the tail from the mouth opening. > I tried it, but it didn't worked as expected. > D. >> > > doesn't work using needle nose pliers on a hamster either....... > RK > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:31:42 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: messy desk Message-ID: <010501c0a80e$cc642ea0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > Hans Trauner wrote: > BTW, I would suggest a new gallery on Allan's and Matt's page: Workbenches! It does exist on list member Len Endy website: http://www2.firstsaga.com/lfendy/WorkBench1.htm D. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3169 **********************