WWI Digest 3168 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Subject: RE: Web Updates by "Paul E. Thompson" 2) How many ASA? Urgent! by Crawford Neil 3) Re: How many ASA? Urgent! by Ernest Thomas 4) OT street lore by "Bucky" 5) RE: OT street lore by Crawford Neil 6) RE: OT street lore by "dfernet0" 7) RE: photo etch tool - "Hold & Fold" by "dfernet0" 8) cockpit dummies WAS: Nieuport IV by "dfernet0" 9) RE: Nieuport IV by "dfernet0" 10) Re: How many ASA? Urgent! by Jan Vihonen 11) Re: OT Street/Building Lore by "Brad & Merville" 12) RE: How many ASA? Urgent! by "Gaston Graf" 13) RE: How many ASA? Urgent! by Crawford Neil 14) RE: Building two or more kits at once by Crawford Neil 15) Caspar Kulenkampff-Post by "Gaston Graf" 16) Re: Jenny by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 17) RE: Matchbox? by Crawford Neil 18) RE: Matchbox? Heyford by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 19) RE: Building two or more kits at once by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 20) RE: Building two or more kits at once by Crawford Neil 21) Re: Son of a Dog! Italian Nieuport 17 by "Michael Kendix" 22) Re: OT street lore by Ernest Thomas 23) Re: Caspar Kulenkampff-Post by "Brad & Merville" 24) New update by "Matt Bittner" 25) Re: OT street lore by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 26) RE: OT street lore by "dfernet0" 27) RE: OT street lore by Crawford Neil 28) Re: Off topic but true by GRBroman@aol.com 29) RE: OT street lore by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 30) RE: OT street lore by Crawford Neil 31) RE: OT street lore by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 32) RE: FMP's Pfalz TOME by "Graham Hunter" 33) RE: Caspar Kulenkampff-Post by "Gaston Graf" 34) Re: RE: Matchbox? Heyford by RadspadMike@netscape.net 35) RE: FMP's Pfalz TOME by "Michael Kendix" 36) Re: Various things & Rhinebeck Listee Get together by "DAVID BURKE" 37) Re: Book question, British Aeroplanes 1914-1918 by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 08:27:05 +0100 From: "Paul E. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Subject: RE: Web Updates Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010308081423.00ad7240@pop.xs4all.nl> Shane, Glad to be of service (must be said in a cheery robotic voice) and thanks for the response. I'll try the webcam I used for the Camel on the Hannovers ( if I can find an angle that hides all the screw-ups). The Koster kit was a revelation. Up to then I had no idea that vacs could be fun to build. If I ever see another I'll certainly snap it up. Clear pictures of everything will be sent when I've deciphered the Dutch manual for my real-world camera so that I can turn the damned automatic settings off (at which point, Alan, please torch the pictures up at the moment). I have been following the previous thread on model photography and will attempt to apply the good ideas therein). Is anyone planning on going to the Belgian IPMS Nats on Saturday (in Antwerp, so I guess that excludes most of the world)? I'll be the short fat bespectacled guy with very long hair, beard you could hide a badger in, and probably speaking very bad Dutch explaining to Belgian vendors why I won't pay them the equivalent of $20 for an Airfix Pup. Cheers, Paul. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:20:11 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "WW1 list (E-mail)" Subject: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: What's the best film for museum photography? 100 ASA paper film? I use a flash. /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 02:38:22 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: <3AA744FD.132CFDAB@bellsouth.net> Crawford Neil wrote: > > What's the best film for museum photography? > 100 ASA paper film? I use a flash. I only use 100 ASA, but I shoot outdoors in the shade. I bet Elder Shane knows. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:31:27 +0900 From: "Bucky" To: Subject: OT street lore Message-ID: <001c01c0a7b2$8d4069c0$184207d3@compaqcomputer> > Mike F wrote: > > anyone else have OT streets near them? > In NO, there's Bullard Ave, Nungesser and Guynemer Streets. Not to mention Gens. Pershing and Haig. Possibly a couple more that I can't think of at the moment. Oh yeah, I used to sleep with a girl who lived on Voisin St. E. No OT street names here in Japan. In fact, the streets HAVE no names here (he says as The Edge's infinite guitar kicks in and Bono starts moaning...). However, Ernesto, Na'wlins saunz posuhtiveleh DRIPPIN' with OT lore (pronounced "low-wah"). Ah must put it on mah next ahtinerareh. ...btw, you still got that Voisin address handy? Bucky ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:49:31 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: OT street lore Message-ID: We've got a Spad street, and an Albatross golf course. Spad means Spade in swedish, Albatross is something in golfish. /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:23:38 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: OT street lore Message-ID: <00e601c0a7b9$d7b92f80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Not a street, but I do have a "Santos Dumont" square ten blocks from home. As a kid, I always wondered who was the bronze sculpture of a guy with a floppy hat. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:29:23 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: photo etch tool - "Hold & Fold" Message-ID: <00fe01c0a7ba$a4dbd580$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> If you can do it by just 10 dollars I bet that you can do good money just with orders from listees. Work your math, turn your lathe and sign me in for a Graf Bending Tool if all works OK! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gaston Graf > If it were available at a > fair price of 10 bucks, that would be ok for me, but 40 is to much for it. > Looks like somebody wants to become very rich very soon. > > Gaston > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:40:23 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: cockpit dummies WAS: Nieuport IV Message-ID: <017f01c0a7bc$2e0a6fa0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I remember... I think that it was not a good idea to put that doll inside the plane. You can't see the cockpit as in the rest of the machines displayed there. I was annoyed! D. Mike K. wrote: > There is a large stuffed "Snoopy" in the seat of the Sopwith Camel in the USN Aviation Museum in Pensacola, Florida. It has a heavy cable running through it which is securely attached to the aircraft frame. I was advised by one of the staff that it is the third "Snoopy", the first two being taken by bold and ingenious visitors. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:42:49 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Nieuport IV Message-ID: <018001c0a7bc$85843c20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil! take as many pictures as you can! Some days ago I got a Scaleplanes vac of the Nieuport IVG, and after reducing a set of 1/48 drawing from Scale Models I found that the model is dimensionally near enough to drawings to attempt building it. The only strange thing was the "criss cross" pattern over the fuselage sides. I think that they tried to replicate the internal rigging showing through. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:44:17 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: <3AA76281.20C0474B@helsinki.fi> That should do the job, if the museum is not too dark. 400 ASA might be a tad better. Jan > What's the best film for museum photography? > 100 ASA paper film? I use a flash. > /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 06:05:05 -0500 From: "Brad & Merville" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Re: OT Street/Building Lore Message-ID: <005401c0a7bf$a28cc320$9a885ad1@default> I used to work in the Mulock building in downtown Toronto. 'Red' Mulock was the first man to intercept a Zepplin over England (LZ38 in an Avro. He caught it a 2000' but after one round his gun jammed!). He made a lone bombing raid on a Zepplin shed near Brussels in June 1915, was the first airman to spot for artillery at night using parachute flares and was the second allied airman to bomb a submarine. Mulock was also the first RNAS and first Canadian 'ace'. Alas the our government sold the building and it has now gone 'condo'. Brad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:09:19 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: Neil, Asa 100 = outdoors, sunshine (use artiticial light filter if photographing indoors without flash) Asa 200 = outdoors all weather (use artiticial light filter if photographing indoors without flash) Asa 400 = indoors/outdoors bad light conditions (artiticial light filter also recommended) that's how I use the films cheers Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > What's the best film for museum photography? > 100 ASA paper film? I use a flash. > /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:21:39 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: How many ASA? Urgent! Message-ID: They only had 200 ASA, so that settled it! Thanks everyone/Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Gaston Graf [mailto:ggraf@vo.lu] > Sent: den 8 mars 2001 12:16 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: How many ASA? Urgent! > > > Neil, > > Asa 100 = outdoors, sunshine (use artiticial light filter if > photographing > indoors without flash) > Asa 200 = outdoors all weather (use artiticial light filter > if photographing > indoors without flash) > Asa 400 = indoors/outdoors bad light conditions (artiticial > light filter > also recommended) > > that's how I use the films > > cheers > > Gaston Graf > (ggraf@vo.lu) > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > > > What's the best film for museum photography? > > 100 ASA paper film? I use a flash. > > /Neil > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:36:52 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Building two or more kits at once Message-ID: Ähum, excuse me but whats Karakatoa 1883. /Neil (only know karaoke) > > For some reason, my children (3 and 7) have never bothered > the modelling > desk. Possibly, they have no desire to see a re-enactment of > Karakatoa > circa 1883! > > Michael > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:38:35 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Caspar Kulenkampff-Post Message-ID: Friends, is this pilot known - Caspar Kulenkampff-Post? He was a Uhlan at the beginning of the war and later became an aviator, like Manfred von Richthofen. He wrote a book which is still available and died in an accident on June 20, 1918. Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:22:40 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Jenny Message-ID: DB, I'm still working on one. Nice simple kit. Like others have already said the basics are there and not a lot else so you don't have to remove much. Plus there's a lot of elbow room to get in an detail the bejeezus out of the interior. No bad mouldings for wings etc. One problem area is the fit of the engine and engine cowling. Then again if you want to convert the engine you shouldn't have this problem. To echo others buy it, buy several. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:48:00 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Matchbox? Message-ID: Yes I agree with you there, that's a beauty, I've built one and I'd love to do another. I can't see Matchbox doing anything with thin wings, but I'm sure they would have done a nice Fokker DVIII /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Al Superczynski [mailto:modeleral@up-link.net] > Sent: den 7 mars 2001 21:42 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Matchbox? > > > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:38:40 -0500 (EST), David wrote: > > >I don't think MB's moulding style would have suited smaller > OT subjects. > > If their P-12E is any indication of what a WW1 fighter would have > been like from them we would have had some outstanding WW1 kits long > ago........ :( > > Al > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:26:05 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Matchbox? Heyford Message-ID: SNIP >> Not without it's faults -I've got 5 of them in the loft, if you ever >> succumb,RLR did an article on fixing it in SM in the 80s >> > >October 1980. It also includes interior drawings if my database is to be >believed > >Shane Now you tell me, after I've already added a nifty looking interior complete with lewis drum storage. . .looks nifty yes, as to its actual accuracy I have not a clue. I got carried away.) If anyone has a copy of said Heyford article they could send me I'd appreciate it. Who knows, they might be responsioble for sending me screaming into a fit and rip the fueslage open again to redo it all ;-) MVJ > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:39:28 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Building two or more kits at once Message-ID: >Ÿhum, excuse me but whats Karakatoa 1883. >/Neil (only know karaoke) > Neil, think biggest baddest volcano of that century. Blew it's stack and took most of a Pacific island with it. Then imagine Michael's reaction should small fingers actually be placed on his in progress models. . .see Krakatoa. Me I'm more of a Versuvius kind of guy. Slow burn that gets steadily hotter and graudally sneaks up on its victims ;-) MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:11:43 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Building two or more kits at once Message-ID: Sounds like a good one to threaten the cat with. Although in his defence he does everything but touch my models (except the Airfix Bluetits, but you can hardly blame him for that). /Neil (mainly Versuvius style) > > Neil, > think biggest baddest volcano of that century. Blew it's > stack and took > most of a Pacific island with it. > Then imagine Michael's reaction should small fingers actually > be placed on > his in progress models. . .see Krakatoa. > > Me I'm more of a Versuvius kind of guy. Slow burn that gets > steadily hotter > and graudally sneaks up on its victims ;-) > MVJ > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:19:53 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Son of a Dog! Italian Nieuport 17 Message-ID: >From: "Muth & Zulick" >Just be sure to leave some space between the window and the decal so >it >doesn't stick. No problem. I have a special little clear plastic case about 6cm square and 3mm in height that I tape to the window with decals inside it. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 07:30:02 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT street lore Message-ID: <3AA78959.A6329987@bellsouth.net> Bucky wrote: > However, Ernesto, Na'wlins saunz posuhtiveleh DRIPPIN' with OT lore > (pronounced "low-wah"). Ah must put it on mah next ahtinerareh. > And if you show talking like that, we're gonna kick yer ass and send you back to where you came from. :-) E. > ..btw, you still got that Voisin address handy? Don't remember the address, but I know where her house is. Stil lives there too, I think. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:27:37 -0500 From: "Brad & Merville" To: Subject: Re: Caspar Kulenkampff-Post Message-ID: <001201c0a7d3$8bea4ca0$cd885ad1@default> Gaston Ltn. Kaspar Kulenkampf-Post, b. Bremen, August 31 1895, Observer Schsta 11, d. June 20 1918 at Ecly That's according to 'Casualties of the German Air Service 1914-1920 Cheers Brad -----Original Message----- From: Gaston Graf To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, March 08, 2001 7:43 AM Subject: Caspar Kulenkampff-Post >Friends, > >is this pilot known - Caspar Kulenkampff-Post? He was a Uhlan at the >beginning of the war and later became an aviator, like Manfred von >Richthofen. He wrote a book which is still available and died in an accident >on June 20, 1918. > > Gaston Graf >(ggraf@vo.lu) >Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: >http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 07:41:41 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: New update Message-ID: <3AA2419A001AC5D6@mail01.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail01.san.yahoo.com) Just uploaded a wonderfully finished Sopwith Pup done by Karen to the site. I am so glad I build in 1/72nd. You Balloon Builders are raising the scale way too high! ;-) Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:26:21 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT street lore Message-ID: We don't have much aviation related street names (cept for maybe a Lindberg and an Earhart streets.) But other OT names we got a plenty. Because of the Newfoundlnd Regiment's service at the Dardanelles we have a Suvla Street, as well as a Beaumont and a hamel street. We've got Ricketts Road, named for a Newfoundland VC winner from WWI - stormed a machine gun IIRC. Then there's the ones I like to think of as OT - A Vickers Street and a Hawker Place. Florizel Street, after an OT troop transport that later sank. RCAF Road and a Marconi Place (pre OT I know). We also have a Vimy Street, both for the battle and the plane which Alcock and Brown flew from here. If I win the millions on the lottery and build my own estate, think they'll let me name the street? How about Sopwith Heights, Fokker Crescent? or maybe Nieuport News?? MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:58:36 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: OT street lore Message-ID: <048c01c0a7d7$ded54560$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mark wrote: > If I win the millions on the lottery and build my own estate, think they'll > let me name the street? How about Sopwith Heights, Fokker Crescent? or > maybe Nieuport News?? IIRC, there's a small town whose names are ALL aviation related. there was an article on it in a "Air & Space" mag, a couple of years ago. Streets are named propeller drive, aileron road, etc. etc. It must be a neat place to live for us, sufferers of the "Airplane reflex syndrom" D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:05:01 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: OT street lore Message-ID: I think that is out Jim Landons way, they used to build Martin Marauders there. /Neil > > IIRC, there's a small town whose names are ALL aviation > related. there was > an article on it in a "Air & Space" mag, a couple of years > ago. Streets are > named propeller drive, aileron road, etc. etc. > It must be a neat place to live for us, sufferers of the > "Airplane reflex > syndrom" > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 09:06:16 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Off topic but true Message-ID: <68.cac3117.27d8ebd9@aol.com> In a message dated Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:38:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ernest Thomas writes: > Mike F wrote: > > anyone else have OT streets near them? > In NO, there's Bullard Ave, Nungesser and Guynemer Streets. Not to mention Gens. Pershing and Haig. Possibly a couple more that I can't think of at the moment. Oh yeah, I used to sleep with a girl who lived on Voisin St. E. >> She must have been wired... ;) Glen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:53:46 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: OT street lore Message-ID: >Mark wrote: >> If I win the millions on the lottery and build my own estate, think >they'll >> let me name the street? How about Sopwith Heights, Fokker Crescent? or >> maybe Nieuport News?? > >IIRC, there's a small town whose names are ALL aviation related. there was >an article on it in a "Air & Space" mag, a couple of years ago. Streets are >named propeller drive, aileron road, etc. etc. >It must be a neat place to live for us, sufferers of the "Airplane reflex >syndrom" >D. You're right. Wasn't it a town built around a B-25 plant?? MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:21:10 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: OT street lore Message-ID: I still think it was a B26 town./Neil > > You're right. Wasn't it a town built around a B-25 plant?? > > MVJ > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:05:53 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: OT street lore Message-ID: >I still think it was a B26 town./Neil > >> >> You're right. Wasn't it a town built around a B-25 plant?? >> >> MVJ >> >> B25, B26, hey I'm an arts reporter. Maths I don't do (esp ot math) ;-) MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:34:12 -0600 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: FMP's Pfalz TOME Message-ID: <000001c0a7dc$d90067a0$fa0101c0@grahamh> <> How about a profile of Holtzem's D.IIIa with lozenge on the wings. The photo of him in front (that shows the straight/separate exhausts;-)) shows what appears to be rib tape (lozenge or blue) along the leading edge of the starboard wing. Is there not speculation that the serial number of Holtzem's D.IIIa is 8230/17 which would put it among the lozenged A/C. Graham ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:44:16 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Caspar Kulenkampff-Post Message-ID: Thanks, Brad! I will buy his book. Gaston > > Ltn. Kaspar Kulenkampf-Post, b. Bremen, August 31 1895, Observer Schsta > 11, d. June 20 1918 at Ecly > > That's according to 'Casualties of the German Air Service 1914-1920 > > Cheers > Brad > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 09:50:47 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: RE: Matchbox? Heyford Message-ID: <2F7A5B8B.70B9B950.3E0364A1@netscape.net> If anyone can provide a copy of the article, I also would appreciate a copy. TIA, Mike K. wwi@wwi-models.org wrote: > > SNIP > >> Not without it's faults -I've got 5 of them in the loft, if you ever > >> succumb,RLR did an article on fixing it in SM in the 80s > > >October 1980.  It also includes interior drawings if my database is to be > >believed > > > >Shane > If anyone has a copy of said Heyford article they could send me I'd > appreciate it. > > MVJ > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:00:29 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: FMP's Pfalz TOME Message-ID: >From: "Graham Hunter" > > ><top >view used. . this one shows it with a horn exhaust, six >straight pipes .. oops. . I did do it correctly >> >How about a profile of Holtzem's D.IIIa with lozenge on the wings. The >photo >of him in front (that shows the straight/separate exhausts;-)) shows what >appears to be rib tape (lozenge or blue) along the leading edge of the >starboard wing. Is there not speculation that the serial number of >Holtzem's >D.IIIa is 8230/17 which would put it among the lozenged A/C. > >Graham > Bob: I saw your profile with the "straight six" exhausts. How'd they manage to obtain one with a horn exhaust? Graham: You're a troublemaker:)! It is well settled that it was all-over silbergrau! Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:11:19 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Various things & Rhinebeck Listee Get together Message-ID: <006401c0a7e3$686777c0$eaf91c3f@oemcomputer> > DB-You truly are insane, but that Gotha looks FANTASTIC > so far!!! By the way, I'm happily carving props now!! > Regards, > John Impenna Hi John! Thanks for the kind words - you should see it now! Happy that the prop article came to be of use - of course, the Gotha will have them too! DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:25:03 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Book question, British Aeroplanes 1914-1918 Message-ID: <6f.1228b9a5.27d90c5f@aol.com> In a message dated 3/7/2001 7:06:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << > BTW did the envolope I sent you ever arrive? Eh? Ahhhh I forget entirely - can't even recall what was supposed to be in it :-( I have what my wife calls adult onset CRAFT syndrome (Can't Remember A F****** Thing) >> Caproni CA.3 Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3168 **********************