WWI Digest 3153 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on by Crawford Neil 2) RE: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on by "Matt Bittner" 3) ALPS printer - was: [alpsdecal] Digest Number 905 by Volker Haeusler 4) RE: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on by Crawford Neil 5) RE: what got you started by "dfernet0" 6) RE: Battle of the Falklands - epilogue by "dfernet0" 7) RE: difference between rotaries by "dfernet0" 8) Re: Ynt: difference between rotaries by "Lee J. Mensinger" 9) RE: We are not alone by "dfernet0" 10) friedrichsthingie pictures by "dfernet0" 11) RE: friedrichsthingie pictures by Crawford Neil 12) RE: WWI digest 3152 by "Nigel Rayner" 13) RE: What got you Started? by Crawford Neil 14) RE: Biggles , awful confession by Crawford Neil 15) RE: friedrichsthingie pictures by "dfernet0" 16) RE: what got you started by Crawford Neil 17) New upload by "Matt Bittner" 18) RE: what got you started by "dfernet0" 19) Admin Back - sort of by Allan Wright 20) Re: New upload by "Steven M.Perry" 21) RE: New upload by Crawford Neil 22) RE: Biggles WAS: What got you Started? by "Paul E. Thompson" 23) Re: Admin Back - sort of by "Steven M.Perry" 24) Karen's Comic by "DAVID BURKE" 25) RE: Admin Back - sort of by Crawford Neil 26) Re: What Got You Started? by "Mark Shannon" 27) Expect downtime next 36 hours by Allan Wright 28) RE: What got you Started? by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 29) RE: What Got You Started? by Crawford Neil 30) Modelbud Group Order Status by Brent Theobald 31) RE: What got you started by mflake@tarrantcounty.com 32) RE: Biggles by mflake@tarrantcounty.com 33) RE: Karen's Comic by "Ray Boorman" 34) RE: We are not alone by Crawford Neil 35) RE: What got you started by Crawford Neil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:21:30 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: I had to ask my wife who Victoria Silvstedt is, she didn't know either, just another beautiful swedish girl I guess, there are so many of them. And everything you read about them is true! I'm sorry Sandy we don't have any ugly ones, so can't send you any details. As to the 1.5 strutter, I take back everything nasty I ever said about it, I happened to open the page in the FMP book about french Sopwiths and they're lovely, I don't think Victoria would have a chance:-) /Neil Sandy wrote: >Remember guys, that you have to make allowances for Neil. He lives in > Scandinavia - where every second woman looks like Victoria > Silvstedt - or > better! > Nordic men get bored with such an abundance of pulchritude, > and seek beauty > in the oddest directions. Hence his championship of the > pug-ugliest fokker > around and his inability to appreciate the slender charms of > the Strutter! > Sandy > PS Neil - if you know any "ugly" Swedettes who might fancy > au-pairing for a > randy old Scot, please send me their details. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:29:26 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: <200103051129.DAA23106@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:25:13 -0500 (EST), Crawford Neil wrote: > As to the 1.5 strutter, I take back everything nasty I ever said about > it, I happened to open the page in the FMP book about french Sopwiths > and they're lovely, I don't think Victoria would have a chance:-) Just goes to show you I'm not the only one who thinks British stuff is ugly. :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 18:59:51 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: ALPS printer - was: [alpsdecal] Digest Number 905 Message-ID: As I remember that some listies were looking for ALPS printers lately, maybe the following announcement on the ALPS decal list is of interest: -----Original Message----- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 17:54:35 -0000 From: nelo@golden.net Subject: interested in selling Md-5000 Hello, I have an Alps md-5000, never used by me. It was bought new (display model) Everything included except box, extra metallic gold cartridge. $550.00 or best offer.Shipping from Canada. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ No idea who that is, but if interested, try a mail Volker Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:37:53 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: And I like the British ones too! /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Bittner [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] > Sent: den 5 mars 2001 12:33 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on > > > On Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:25:13 -0500 (EST), Crawford Neil wrote: > > > As to the 1.5 strutter, I take back everything nasty I ever > said about > > it, I happened to open the page in the FMP book about > french Sopwiths > > and they're lovely, I don't think Victoria would have a chance:-) > > Just goes to show you I'm not the only one who thinks British stuff is > ugly. :-) > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:50:54 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: what got you started Message-ID: <022d01c0a56a$88e1f500$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> My first model ever was an Airfix Albatros DV, molded in light blue or lavender colour plastic. I left the pilot figure unglued to make him step inside and outside the machine. My cousin -who was 13 yrs. old at the time- painted the plane for me in red. I guess that the paint was just nail lacquer! As a kid I had several albatrosen, revells and airfixes. 1/48 kiys were rare and expensive and I stayed in 1/72 as much as I could. I was always fond of WW1 planes because they were cute. I saw "Those mag men..." and I loved it!! I saw as many aviation mvies I could during my whole life. In 1981 or '82 I saw a strange movie about time travels (another passion) and there was a WW1 character... that was Biggles! I didn't liked it too much, and forgot almost all of it until I ran into this character again in the WW1 list. The list has been my main resource of modelling info since I joined and I gathered an assortment of kits and books that I never have dreamed for before 1998. VISA is to be grateful to you, guys! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:52:01 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Battle of the Falklands - epilogue Message-ID: <023b01c0a56a$b10e6180$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Interesting... samll world after all, ain't it? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Pearson To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:59 AM Subject: Battle of the Falklands - epilogue > Further on our thread about Coronel and the Falklands a week or three back, > I just read an account about the various ships that were built in our local > shipyard during the second half .... but what was really intriguing was > that in WW1 following the battles of Coronel and the Falklands, the AMC > Otranto was sent here to refit as the dock at Esquimalt was unable to be > used for some reason. Seems a long journey to go from the South Atlantic, to > the North Pacific, but as long as it adds some local colour. ... methinks > another trip to the local archives are in order. > > Bob > in sunny Prince Rupert BC (or it will be in another 5 hours or so when the > sun comes up) > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:56:04 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: , Subject: RE: difference between rotaries Message-ID: <027701c0a56b$41c224a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Bülent! Your message has appeared in the list, and if you're still subscribed it'll appear twice in your screen, as I send a copy to you directly. About the Aviation History mag article, just give me a few days more since I'm unable to locate my copy! I must organize my library oe of these days! Scans of the pics will follow suit. Best regards from the rainy, hot, horrid weather of Argentina D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bülent Yılmazer To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:53 AM Subject: Ynt: difference between rotaries > Hello List, > > I have not received any mail from the list in the past week, am I unsubbed? > > Bulent Yilmazer > Ankara - TURKEY > yilmazer@tr.net > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 06:10:49 -0600 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org, Subject: Re: Ynt: difference between rotaries Message-ID: <3AA38249.D6810CA3@x25.net> Most lilely. Easiest way to fix it is to un-subscribe and about five minutes later re-subscribe. Lee M. Bülent Yılmazer wrote: > Hello List, > > I have not received any mail from the list in the past week, am I unsubbed? > > Bulent Yilmazer > Ankara - TURKEY > yilmazer@tr.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:12:10 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: We are not alone Message-ID: <032f01c0a56d$816d0dc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mistress Lorna said: > Strangely enough I only have 3 pairs of shoes ........... > boots on the other hand :-) Shane, you must have very colorful stories to tell... Lorna, I'm looking for some stuff for Wandita. Where do you get your leather equipment?? She needs to have a hobby after all. ;-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:07:22 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: friedrichsthingie pictures Message-ID: <030d01c0a56c$d5a53940$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Bucky! LAst night, while struggling to get asleep in a 32ºC temperature and 90% humidity, I took out of the shelves a stack of old windsock mags and I found an article full of detail pictures of friedrichdactyl bombers. I can scan what I have (just one article) but the series has 3 or 4 installments. If you don't have these already, I can seacrh the magazine and find the issue numbers for you. Regards D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:35:58 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: friedrichsthingie pictures Message-ID: I don't know if it helps you Diego, but we now have deep snow (30cm) and -16 centigrade. /Neil Diego wrote: LAst night, while struggling to get asleep in a 32=BAC temperature and 90= % humidity, I took out of the shelves a stack of old windsock mags and I fo= und ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:43:18 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: WWI digest 3152 Message-ID: <000001c0a57a$3c602160$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Robert wrote: > Well, after the Python thing, Biggles is now firmly established > in my mind as > "Senor Biggles" in a tutu and flying helmet festooned with antlers! I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition................. Sorry everyone, couldn't resist. Cheers, Nigel Who spent a happy day starting an Eduard Dr1. Boy, that's nice and easy after a Pegasus BE2e. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:56:15 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: What got you Started? Message-ID: When I was 4, my parents sent me alone to my Grandparents in Northern Ireland for a week. They handed me over to a stewardess who looked after me on the BEA Viscount, and I was allowed up into the cockpit, I still remember seeing the Isle of Man from above. The next year I did it again in a Vanguard. After that the rest was inevitable. My first a/c book was the Observers book of Aircraft 1960 edition, I still use it. I remember watching my big brother building a kit, but I can't remember my own first, I was 5 at the time. Then I built Airfix kits that I bought once a week at the County Sationers in Chesham till I was 12ish, I built quite a few OT kits, I still have a Camel from that period. Even then I was very all-round I just loved any aircraft. In my early teens I had a luftwaffe period, I built everything that was available then, then I started with the RAF, it was during this period I read a Danish book about building plastic models that opened my eyes to the wonders of putty, clear varnish came a bit later. An eye-opener was also Bill Mathews excellent book (the one with a Tiffy on the cover). I joined IPMS when I was 18 in 1972, started competing a couple of years later, that must have been about when I got AMS. One of the classic AMS antidotes is to build something completely different, so I built a Revell Spad XIII 1/72, and then because AMS is incurable I got caught by the OT bug too. In fact buiding OT models just made it worse, because in the early eighties I got Harry Woodmans book, which got me into scratchbuilding. Then nearly a year ago Marten and Matt lured me onto the list, it gets worse and worse! /Neil PS:I found the list originally years ago, when I was searching the web for Spad 11/16 info and got a reference to someone in Australia asking for Spad 11 info, which led me to the digests. I should have caught on right there but I missed the significance, better late than never:-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:00:19 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Biggles , awful confession Message-ID: I have to admit to something awful, even though I read most of the Biggles books, I prefered Enid Blyton! /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:12:20 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: friedrichsthingie pictures Message-ID: <037d01c0a57e$4ae5a440$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Lucky guy! today it's 27C and raining like buckets thrown from the clouds... the forecast? it'll be sunny on the afternoon AAGGGGH! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: RE: friedrichsthingie pictures > I don't know if it helps you Diego, but we now have deep snow (30cm) > and -16 centigrade. > /Neil > > > Diego wrote: > LAst night, while struggling to get asleep in a 32=BAC temperature and 90= > % > humidity, I took out of the shelves a stack of old windsock mags and I fo= > und > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:19:35 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: what got you started Message-ID: I agree about 1/72, that was really all we saw in Britain, I hardly became aware of 1/48 till I read St. Harrys book, I tried a couple but found that I spent too much time on them. /Neil Diego wrote: lacquer! As a kid I had several albatrosen, revells and > airfixes. 1/48 kiys > were rare and expensive and I stayed in 1/72 as much as I could. > I was always fond of WW1 planes because they were cute. I saw ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:28:11 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: New upload Message-ID: <3AA2419A0004B74D@mail01.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail01.san.yahoo.com) Just uploaded Nigel Rayner's extremely well done Pegasus BE2e. Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) np: Sarah Slean, _blue parade_ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:27:45 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: what got you started Message-ID: <039e01c0a580$7559f300$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> One of the nicest gifts that I received as a kid was a BIG spit****e with an electric engine! Later i found that the strange giant scale was 1/48. I can't remember the brand of the kit. It was in those happy days that when I finished a kit, I threw away the box with all the unused parts!! I was a real wiiiild child. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: RE: what got you started > I agree about 1/72, that was really all we saw in Britain, I > hardly became aware of 1/48 till I read St. Harrys book, I tried > a couple but found that I spent too much time on them. > /Neil > > > > Diego wrote: > lacquer! As a kid I had several albatrosen, revells and > > airfixes. 1/48 kiys > > were rare and expensive and I stayed in 1/72 as much as I could. > > I was always fond of WW1 planes because they were cute. I saw > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:04:01 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Admin Back - sort of Message-ID: <200103051504.KAA10874@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hi everyone.....I'm back from my battle with sinusitis, well until they send us home because of this storm. After some delay I am able to get some things up on the website: - Added a new modeler (Karen Rychlewski) to the World War I Model Galleries page. - Added 2 images (1 new model) to Eric Morelock's Models page on the World War I Images page. Great models both of you! Thanks, Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:09:13 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: New upload Message-ID: <003301c0a586$3db13c00$4bf1aec7@default> > Just uploaded Nigel Rayner's extremely well done Pegasus BE2e. Nice BE Nigel. I love the replacement wing panel. The rib detail came out well on the CDL sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:10:20 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: New upload Message-ID: Yes, very nicely done. /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Bittner [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] > Sent: den 5 mars 2001 15:33 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: New upload > > > Just uploaded Nigel Rayner's extremely well done Pegasus BE2e. > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) > > np: Sarah Slean, _blue parade_ > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:15:12 +0100 From: "Paul E. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Biggles WAS: What got you Started? Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010305161229.00ad1e50@pop.xs4all.nl> >Isn't it obvious why we never successfully exported Biggles? He'd never >have gotten further than Ireland. The range of the Sopwith Camel was just >too short (even if he'd left his marmite sandwiches at home). Paul. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:41:09 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Admin Back - sort of Message-ID: <004501c0a58a$b3a9e660$4bf1aec7@default> Glad to hear you're feeling better Allan. Hope the impending storm won't be a problem. That's a neat Camel Karen, the conversion came out real well. I love the paint from "Daddy's store". That's the sort of history that makes this such a facinating hobby. Nice models Eric. That is very nice wood on the Albatros. The gun is a new one on me, cool piece. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:39:54 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Karen's Comic Message-ID: <000901c0a58a$8bbc0980$d2121a3f@oemcomputer> Dame Karen, Very nice indeed! I just wish there were one or two more perspectives to see the model from. It makes me impatient for the future Eduard Camel releases (they're supposed to release a Comic Camel too, aren't they?). DB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:46:06 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Admin Back - sort of Message-ID: Now I understand the hubub when Karen joined the list, that's lovely work. Please keep them coming Karen:-) Welcome back Allan, do you know what scale that very nice Albatros is? /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:48:12 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: What Got You Started? Message-ID: Aurora. They had all those interesting types in kits that were the same scale (I know, I know). Especially that Fokker Dr.I. in that interested translucent burgundy red plastic and the Sopwith Triplane and Camel. Even though I had to turn to Hawk for the Spad XIII and Nieuport 17, I could do just about every one of the aircraft I had heard of, if I could save up my allowance enough to afford the DH 10 and Gotha. Though I never did understand their predilection for including bombs in every kit. (I had the same impression as the late J.E. Johnson when I first saw a Spit with bombs - though this was in kit form) And Quentin Reynolds - 'They Fought for the Sky' was my bible of air combat, growing up. When the 'Dogfight' game came out in the American Heritage series my brother and I nearly wore out the cards and holding the aircraft in front of the exhaust side of the vacuum cleaner to make the propellers buzz was a blast. (I also liked the War of 1812 game, I forget its name at this juncture) My father found a magazine that was about the same format and size as the Popular Mechanic's/Popular Science's of the day, full of grainy photos and on paper one step up from newsprint, but it had all these interesting ones that weren't mentioned as often, and even tried to explain all the Nieuport numbering, including the meter-names, and I discovered the wonders of Farman 'Shorthorns' and 'Longhorns', Sopwith 1 ½ Strutters, Roland 'Warlfische' [sic], and 'Bloody Paralyzers'. (As you can tell, the magazine was long on nicknames rather than designation codes) But 'Biggles' was not in the mix. As someone said, I only heard of the Biggles books when Monty Python started including he and Algy in their sketches. Cardinal Biggles/Fang springs to mind (though why they did not give him a red flying helmet.... Got to respect the traditions of the Church, even in silliness, whot.. ;{)) And I don't think it had anything to do with 'we really won the war' arrogance, just that they were 'children's' books, and at the time publishers just felt such stories would not travel across borders well. (read, make enough money). So American boys grew up on domestic products like Hardy Boys, Rick Brant, Tom Swift, and other non-series books, while girls had their Nancy Drew mysteries to give them a heroine. It was also a 'whiz-bang' era, and old-fashioned stories without a lot of 'modern science' didn't get the press. One other reason why WWI did not do well in that era was that there was an American view that we had gotten entangled into a meaningless European War when our interests had finally been threatened enough, without the obvious 'evil' enemy (by the end of WWII and Korea, it was hard to portray the Kaiser as anything more than a strutting, incompetent peacock, compared to the types of things that followed). The origins of WWI were such that it was hard to say who had caused it and apportion blame - every one of the major players' foreign policies and ambitions had a hand in causing it - and in that time in America, there had to be an obvious evil enemy causing bad things to happen to good countries. Add to that the knowledge that its most lasting legacy was the establishment of the first Communist state and all that meant in '50s and '60s American consciousness, and the war was largely a history teacher's nightmare. On a separate topic, which will give a little boost to our Australian contingent, I've been rereading some of the things on the 'other front' - Gallipoli and then Palestine campaigns. What is interesting is that the 'Battle of Armageddon' has been fought - at a time when the horsemen of the Apocalypse were at large in the world, or Mars ruled the world, and at a time when the 'Anti-Christ' could have been said to have appeared. September 19, 1918, the Battle of Megiddo. Allenby's final campaign in Palestine and his breakthrough of the Turkish-German line through el Jeddah (Tel ar Megiddo). Pestilence was decimating Europe in the Great Flu Epidemic, Famine was striking Russia, Germany, and south-eastern Europe, War had decimated the populations of Europe and given America more casualties than anything save the American Civil War, and had involved countries around the world, and Lenin and the Bolsheviks ruled in Russia and advocated the spread of their atheistic culture to the world. Tell that to the next Fundamentalist Evangelist at your door. Anyway, the cavalry in Allenby's forces, including the famous Australian Light Horse and Bengal Lancers, moved faster than any army in history through the Turkish lines and in chasing down the retreating Central Powers forces - including the Battle of France in 1940, Barbarossa in 1941, Operation Cobra and the Liberation of France in 1944, and the Israeli forces in the Six-Day War. From lines stretching from about Caesarea on the Med shores to the Jordan River just above the Dead Sea, the battle pushed the Central Powers armies out of present day Israel in four days, and pushed through Beirut to Damascus and to Amman by the end of the month. Interesting. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:52:44 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Expect downtime next 36 hours Message-ID: <200103051552.KAA11351@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hi everyone! Well a big storm is hitting the northeast right now. Predicted are high winds, flooding and heavy sticky snow. UNH is most likely going to lose power sometime in the next 36 hours. If the list and website goes kaput don't worry about e-mailing me. I live 4 miles from campus, if the server loses power, so does my house! Anyways, UNH is on shutdown from Noon today through midnight Wednesday so I'll be heading home to shovel snow - be good while I'm gone! Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:27:13 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: What got you Started? Message-ID: It was the usual Airfix addicition as a child that got me started. I built anything with wings. Slapped em together painted them whatever colour I fancied and then gleefully smashed them to pieces. It wasn't until 92 that i got back into modeling. I did an Airfix Pup and a garish white with green striped Alb DV, taken from the Flying Colours book. But they both sucked. Until about 1999 I was still open to modeling just aboiut anything. Then I happened to be working on a 32nd scale Camel and was idly surfing looking for some rigging tips. First I found Dennis's DURAS system on a search. Then I stumbled across someone's, I think it was len Endy's site with a link to the WWI pages. The rest is history. It is as an OT modeler that my interest in historical accuracy, background research and detailing to the limit pof my abilities has come to the fore. I'm busily divesting myself of most of my ot stuff (certainly all but one or two of the jets) and settling into being a crotchety old fart who couldn't give a sod unless it had two wings minimum and a round engine (with a few notable exceptions) God bless Uggie and Len for steering me in the right direction. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:02:21 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: What Got You Started? Message-ID: I don't quite follow you here Mark, do you mean that Armageddon and Megiddo is the same place? /Neil > On a separate topic, which will give a little boost to our > Australian contingent, I've been rereading some of the things > on the 'other front' - Gallipoli and then Palestine > campaigns. What is interesting is that the 'Battle of > Armageddon' has been fought - at a time when the horsemen of > the Apocalypse were at large in the world, or Mars ruled the > world, and at a time when the 'Anti-Christ' could have been > said to have appeared. > > September 19, 1918, the Battle of Megiddo. Allenby's final > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:03:48 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Modelbud Group Order Status Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79EDAF@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Hey Gang, Mr. Choroszy's email is working again. He has received our payment and the kits will be shipped this week. Good news eh? Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:49:58 -0600 From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com To: Subject: RE: What got you started Message-ID: I almost forgot a famous song that played in my adolescence that also inspired me to build WW1 aircraft. The Chorus went like this: "Ten, 20, 30, 40, 50 and more, The Bloody Red Baron was roarin' up a score. Eighty men died tryin' to end that spree, Of the Bloody Red Baron of Germany!" -- Snoopy vs. Red Baron, by The Royal Guardsmen Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:47:08 -0600 From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com To: Subject: RE: Biggles Message-ID: Y'all have my curiosity up. I'd never head of him 'till I got on this list -- even missed his cameo on Monty Python and his time travel movie. I'd like to find a way of buying some books about this fictional bloke. You see, I'm trying to instill a love of history in my kids. My oldest is now enthralled with Texas History. I've been reading him day-by-day accounts of the Seige of the Alamo for the past 11 days (two more to go). He's interested and looking forward to our trip to San Antonio in a couple of weeks where we'll go to the old mission. However, my three-year-old isn't interested. He's more interested in airplanes than soldiers. He even takes the joystick while I'm flying "Red Baron 3-D" and does a commendable job of staying level. He also has me play the little movie at the beginning with the Red Baron/Roy Brown dogfight. That said, maybe I could get him interested in history by reading some Biggles adventures to him. Are these books now available in England, and therefore over the Internet? Is it possible to get the whole series rather inexpensively? Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:10:42 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: Karen's Comic Message-ID: I agree with David (Now thats a first ;) ) Very nice Comic imho, have you thought of putting it into the Sopwith Cook-up Karen? Oh btw David, if you turn to the dark side you can get a very nice Comic Camel from Omega at Lubos's site. Plus you can still get the Blue Rider conversion if you look for it. Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of DAVID > BURKE > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:47 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Karen's Comic > > > Dame Karen, > > Very nice indeed! I just wish there were one or two more perspectives to > see the model from. It makes me impatient for the future Eduard Camel > releases (they're supposed to release a Comic Camel too, aren't they?). > > > DB > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:15:23 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: We are not alone Message-ID: I used to work with a girl who told me that whenever she opened a cupboard, piles of unstarted or unfinished handwork would fall out. Sounds like lots of guys I know. My wife OTOH has a loom and does a lot of weaving, but she never buys anything that she doesn't finish, I have a small problem explaining all my unbuilt kits. I don't think it's a male/female thing, more depends on the kind of person you are. /Neil > I think not, > Look at the gals who sew, knit or do other handy craft things. how > many have reams of thread they will never use, but have on hand > incase they need it. The list could go on for ever. My better half > once asked me about a new tool I was purchasing. I asked her why she > needed the new needles she had just purchased. She already had a box > full of needles she didn't use. She thought about the tool for a > moment, and hasn't questioned a purchase since. My hobby is parallel > to hers, I just use different materials. > > John > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:20:00 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: What got you started Message-ID: Yes that was a good one, there was also one called "hang on snoopy" but it had nothing to do with any of this, so why do I mention it? God knows! /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com [mailto:mflake@tarrantcounty.com] > Sent: den 5 mars 2001 17:10 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: What got you started > > > I almost forgot a famous song that played in my adolescence that also > inspired me to build WW1 aircraft. The Chorus went like this: > > "Ten, 20, 30, 40, 50 and more, > The Bloody Red Baron was roarin' up a score. > Eighty men died tryin' to end that spree, > Of the Bloody Red Baron of Germany!" > -- Snoopy vs. Red Baron, by The Royal Guardsmen > > Marc > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3153 **********************