WWI Digest 3146 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Hello! by mflake@tarrantcounty.com 2) RE: Hello!!! by Shane Weier 3) RE: Hello!!! by Shane Weier 4) FW: Hello!!! by Shane Weier 5) Re: Hello! by Ernest Thomas 6) Re: Unfavorites/Blue Max by Todd Hayes 7) Re: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Re: RE: Hello! by RadspadMike@netscape.net 9) Re: Internet Modeler Marches on by "David Calhoun" 10) Re: Internet Modeler Marches on by "David C. Fletcher" 11) RE: Hello!!! by Volker Haeusler 12) RE: The good, the bad, the..... by Dennis Ugulano 13) Re: Booklets FS by Todd Hayes 14) 1:48 Vickers Gunbus or Not? by Todd Hayes 15) all aircraft are beautiful.... was RE: Internet Modeler Marches on by "Gaston Graf" 16) Re: Form-a-plane was Joystick by "Len Smith" 17) Wanted: 1:48 Martinsyde Buzzard and Elephant by Todd Hayes 18) Site update by philippe.spriesterbach@pi.be (Philippe Spriesterbach) 19) Opinions Wanted by Todd Hayes 20) When Are You Going to Do The Zeppelin-Staaken Eric? by Todd Hayes 21) RE: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on by "Sandy Adam" 22) : Any Geordies out there? by "Sandy Adam" 23) Re: Form-a-plane was Joystick by "Michael Kendix" 24) Re: : Any Geordies out there? by "Michael Kendix" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:23:08 -0600 From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com To: Subject: RE: Hello! Message-ID: If you scroll about 1/3 the way down, back off from your computer about 10 feet and squint your eyes, it provides indisputable evidence of Voss's Cowl color. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:28:37 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Hello!!! Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748D01@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A370.817DBDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Bob says: > Come on everyone .. stop picking on Jesse. He/she is > obviously a newcomer > who wanted to share something with the list but didn't know > it was text > only. . I would hate to think someone was driven away by > sarcasm over an > introductory mistake. .. after he/she has been around for > awhile it is fine, > but good manners should rule until then Mmmm. I'd advise being a little carefull of "Jesse" ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A370.817DBDE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Hello!!!

Bob says:

> Come on everyone .. stop picking on Jesse. He/she is
> obviously a newcomer
> who wanted to share something with the list but didn't know
> it was text
> only. . I would hate to think someone was driven away by
> sarcasm over an
> introductory mistake. .. after he/she has been around for
> awhile it is fine,
> but good manners should rule until then

Mmmm. I'd advise being a little carefull of "Jesse"



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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A370.817DBDE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:32:05 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Hello!!! Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748D02@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A370.FDE82CD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Rats. Hit something and sent by mistake. Grrr. > Bob says: > > > Come on everyone .. stop picking on Jesse. He/she is > > obviously a newcomer > > who wanted to share something with the list but didn't know > > it was text > > only. . I would hate to think someone was driven away by > > sarcasm over an > > introductory mistake. .. after he/she has been around for > > awhile it is fine, > > but good manners should rule until then > Mmmm. I'd advise being a little carefull of "Jesse" The original email has the unique characteristic of having apparently been sent from Alans own host without being Al - or at least the senders email address would suggest it. I'm more concerned at a possible hack attempt than upsetting someone - but it's my workday job to worry about such things and I may be oversensitive Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A370.FDE82CD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Hello!!!

Rats. Hit something and sent by mistake. Grrr.

> Bob says:
>
> > Come on everyone .. stop picking on Jesse. He/= she is
> > obviously a newcomer
> > who wanted to share something with the list bu= t didn't know
> > it was text
> > only. . I would hate to think someone was driv= en away by
> > sarcasm over an
> > introductory mistake. .. after he/she has been= around for
> > awhile it is fine,
> > but good manners should rule until then
>

Mmmm. I'd advise being a little carefull of "Jesse&q= uot;

The original email has the unique characteristic of havin= g apparently been sent from Alans own host without being Al - or at least t= he senders email address would suggest it.

I'm more concerned at a possible hack attempt than upsett= ing someone - but it's my workday job to worry about such things and I may = be oversensitive

Shane









 



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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A370.FDE82CD0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:33:37 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: FW: Hello!!! Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748D03@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Rats. Hit something and sent by mistake. Grrr. > Bob says: > > > Come on everyone .. stop picking on Jesse. He/she is > > obviously a newcomer > > who wanted to share something with the list but didn't know > > it was text > > only. . I would hate to think someone was driven away by > > sarcasm over an > > introductory mistake. .. after he/she has been around for > > awhile it is fine, > > but good manners should rule until then > Mmmm. I'd advise being a little carefull of "Jesse" The original email has the unique characteristic of having apparently been sent from Alans own host without being Al - or at least the senders email address would suggest it. I'm more concerned at a possible hack attempt than upsetting someone - but it's my workday job to worry about such things and I may be oversensitive Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:56:55 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello! Message-ID: <3AA03347.12D95D5F@bellsouth.net> NOW CUT THAT OUT! Now I've got tea all over the screen, in the keyboard, etc... E. mflake@tarrantcounty.com wrote: > > If you scroll about 1/3 the way down, back off from your computer about 10 > feet and squint your eyes, it provides indisputable evidence of Voss's Cowl > color. > > Marc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:22:46 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Unfavorites/Blue Max Message-ID: <20010303002246.85222.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> ....BM's inlines are aweful. You can say that again. I really liked the Halberstadt CL.II...but that engine IS aweful. Maybe even more so than in their other kits. Their guns frequently are less than desirable too. Sound like just the thing CSM is here for. Todd --- MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > > --part1_9d.11f4b79d.27d12a57_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The unfavorites idea is twisted, even for E, but > there are some OT planes I > don't like much, anything by Vickers (they were poor > performers, but Sir > Basil forced them on the RFC) they were still making > their 1915 rehashed > design in 1918. > On a happier (hopefully) topic, the Roland in > 1/48 injected is > something I've wanted for years (and I will be > buying several of the MAC 1/72 > as well). Mr. Gannon is really trying to keep the > other limited run makers > behind the power curve. The C.VI would be nice, (the > C.VI was the first > Pegasus I built) for both though, I'm concerned > about the engine, nobody, > AFAIK, makes a 1/48 Benz, and BM's inlines are > awful. > Merrill > > --part1_9d.11f4b79d.27d12a57_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The > unfavorites idea is twisted, even for E, but there > are some OT planes I >
don't like much, anything by Vickers (they were > poor performers, but Sir >
Basil forced them on the RFC) they were still > making their 1915 rehashed >
design in 1918. >
      On a > happier (hopefully) topic, the Roland in 1/48 > injected is >
something I've wanted for years (and I will be > buying several of the MAC 1/72 >
as well). Mr. Gannon is really trying to keep > the other limited run makers >
behind the power curve. The C.VI would be nice, > (the C.VI was the first >
Pegasus I built) for both though, I'm concerned > about the engine, nobody, >
AFAIK, makes a 1/48 Benz, and BM's inlines are > awful. >
Merrill > > --part1_9d.11f4b79d.27d12a57_boundary-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:21:57 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: <14.10667f7b.27d19325@aol.com> In a message dated 3/2/01 5:23:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, mkendix@hotmail.com writes: << My least favourite is the Fokker Dr.1, especially red ones, for similar reason to Robert Karr's dislike of the D.VII, namely, it is ubiquitous. It also has hardly any rigging. It's odd that an aeroplane that is unlike most other WW1 aeroplanes in so many ways, is the most well known of all. Michael >> My least favorite is subject to change from time to time....often my least fave is whatever I happen to working on, when I reach the 96% finished stage. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 20:02:00 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: RE: Hello! Message-ID: <318EF362.50A716A4.3E0364A1@netscape.net> So I dug the original message out of the trash, stood back 10 feet and squinted - - couldn't even see the monitor, but I think my scanner had a yellowish tinge. Mike K. Marc wrote: > > If you scroll about 1/3 the way down, back off from your computer about 10 feet and squint your eyes, it provides indisputable evidence of Voss's Cowl color.<< __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:08:46 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: <000801c0a397$a6311e80$9a0c3ccc@oemcomputer> Thanks for the compliment Tomsaz. Next time I'm in Poland I'll take you up on the beer offer! (just kidding). I find that the research of a particular pilot's aircraft is one of the most rewarding areas of WW1 modeling, maybe that's why I have multiples of aircraft flown by Udet, Nungesser, Lufbery, Linke-Crawford & von Richthofen. I believe that the men who flew the aircraft are more meaningful than the aircraft themselves! That's why I prefer to do important ace's planes instead of fancy paint jobs. (although I am currently doing the Seven Swabian's Fokker D.VII, must have an exception to every rule I guess) Dave Calhoun -----Original Message----- From: Tomasz Gronczewski To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, March 02, 2001 2:37 AM Subject: RE: Internet Modeler Marches on >Hi guys, > >thank you very much for this issue. I would like to congratulate all three >listees who provided us with excellent build articles. Michael, Robert, >Dave, you are great. > >Also I'd like to thank Robert and Dave for your comments and suggestions to >Kissenberth's and Christiansen's planes. I plan to make them in the future, >so I owe you a beer or two for these pieces of information. > >Cheers, > >Tomasz > >-------------------R--E--K--L--A--M--A--------------------- >Szukasz wiedzy? 85 tysiecy uaktualnianych ciagle hasel. >Encyklopedia Internautica: http://encyklopedia.interia.pl/ > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:12:48 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: <3AA04510.4080808@mars.ark.com> "Ok, what's everyone's 'least' favorite OT airplane (or tank, or whatever)..." I hate to quash a thread, troops, but this was a dumb question. It's rather like asking which of your kids would you prefer to give up for adoption. Rather than emphasizing the negative, can we get back to something positive? Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:10:39 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Hello!!! Message-ID: Looking on the fact that there is NO identifiable text and the address (@pease1.sr.unh.edu) I guess it was not newcomer to the list, but something unhealthy (like "I love you" or "Win $ 100.- now!") - sorry Jessy if I´m wrong with that Volker -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Mark Vaughan-Jackson Sent: 03 March 2001 02:55 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Hello!!! From: Jessy@pease1.sr.unh.edu - MASSIVE SNIP - What the heck was that?? mvj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:00:32 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: The good, the bad, the..... Message-ID: <200103030000_MC2-C778-E344@compuserve.com> D, >> Let me add, that your wonderful website and Len's pages too have lured me into the world of vacuform modelling. << You will enjoy them when you get going. It opens up an entire new world of subjects. And I do thank you for your nice comments on my site. Tech Support and I have put a lot of work into it. And we have some work to do this week end. I have my Form-a-plane Rumpler 6B-1 home and will try and add it to my site. That is right after my Gotha build site is added. I HAVE MY GOTHA!!!!!!!!!!!! I showed amazing restraint. I didn't try and built it on the way home. And even after getting home I finished an Age of Empires game I had going and even ate before immersing myself into the kit. Rain is predicted for tomorrow and I may have to stay inside all day. Oh, my, nothing to do but build on the Gotha all weekend. Now watch, the sun will come out and I will have to put in one of my rare Saturdays for the State. It is a beautiful kit but for the life of me I can't figure out the engines and nacelle combination. I'll have to go back and re-read some of the posts on that portion of the kit. Other than that, it's going together well. Oh, well, back to the kit. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 2/1/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:45:52 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Booklets FS Message-ID: <20010303074552.16818.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> Bob, I'm not interested in these items, but if you decide the sell anymore DF or DF specials, please let me know. Todd --- Robert Fabris wrote: > Planbooks of a few years back.... > Scale Aircraft Drawings V.I (MAP) > Scale Models by Wylam ('34-'43) (MAN) > The Best of Wylam Book 2 ('37-'56) (MAN) > MAP Masterplan Book 3 (Wylam) These are $10. > ea.ppd > also: Fighter Aircraft of teh 1914-18 War > (Harleyford) $20. ppd > Thanks Bob Fabris > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:09:02 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: 1:48 Vickers Gunbus or Not? Message-ID: <20010303080902.95707.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> I ordered a 1:48 Lohner L from Lone Star Models today. As a part of my message, I asked about the possibility of his doing a 1:48 Vickers Gunbus. He has a scratchbuilt one of his own. He says he's wanted to do one, but figures the rigging is too complex. Who would like to have a Gunbus kit in resin, or vac, or both? I would like to suggest an e-mail campaign to hopefully persuade him to do one. And for those of you waiting for the LSM Sablatnig, all he has left to do is the instructions. TH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:54:05 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: all aircraft are beautiful.... was RE: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: You speak from my heart, Dave! As I read that question I was thinking it over what aitcraft I like least but found none so I did not reply to it. All aircraft are beautiful in one way or the other because there is no feeling compareable to flying, except but one maybe. tataaaaaaaaaaaaa.......... Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of David > C. Fletcher > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 2:13 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Internet Modeler Marches on > > > "Ok, what's everyone's 'least' favorite OT airplane (or tank, or > whatever)..." > > I hate to quash a thread, troops, but this was a dumb question. It's > rather like asking which of your kids would you prefer to give up for > adoption. Rather than emphasizing the negative, can we get back to > something positive? > Dave Fletcher > -- > Visit us at our Home Page: > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 08:43:24 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Form-a-plane was Joystick Message-ID: <008501c0a3be$1e431380$45867ed4@mesh> Michael, You have me confused, are you talking the Formaplane or Libramodels/Scaleplanes FE2b ? As Dennis says the JC is on all of the Formaplane versions that I have, I agree that the top ribs are indented not raised, but the details are sharp and not fuzzy. Joe died in early 1998, having been responsible for many of the vacs produced by Formaplane, Roseplane, Libramodels, Scaleplanes, Xtraplane, Blue Rider and Phoenix (his own Company I believe). Strangely the Phoenix version of the Caudron GIV was not mastered by Joe but by Les Cooper (who was the man behind Libramodels and its subsidiary Scaleplanes, I believe). I met Les a couple of years ago at one of the Aerojumbles, but never met Joe to my sorrow. Incidently Joe worked as a tool maker for Airfix for many years and yes the Stirling ( not the Sunderland) was his work. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kendix" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:12 PM Subject: Re: Form-a-plane was Joystick > > Thanks but it is fairly far down my list of priorities, however, that list > appears to change on a daily basis. I thought that the quality and form of > the Formaplane FE2B was similar to the Caudron G.4 of the same company - the > indented top side ribbing was the same. Are you sure the FE2B is in the > "good" Joe Chubbock group. I have the Libra/Scaleplanes vac an I thought he > put his "JC" mark on it. No such initials appear on the FE2B. > > Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:43:24 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Wanted: 1:48 Martinsyde Buzzard and Elephant Message-ID: <20010303084324.59018.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> Wanted: A company to produce the Martinsyde G.100/102 Elephant and especially the F.4 Buzzard in 1:48. Injection or resin preferred, vac-form if neccessary. Must be highly detailed. TH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 09:06:01 GMT From: philippe.spriesterbach@pi.be (Philippe Spriesterbach) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Site update Message-ID: <3aa2b3f6.339228636@mail.pi.be> Hey all, This day, I updated my site. No more photos of model but, if you are interested, photos of 2 new engines (Puma and Renault 80 HP) taken at Royal Army Museum, Brussels. Regards -- Philippe Spriesterbach http://www.ping.be/phillipe_models/ philippe.spriesterbach@pi.be IPMS Belgium Member #F015 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 01:48:21 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Opinions Wanted Message-ID: <20010303094821.23461.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> Who, here on the list, has the Albatros Pubs. Fabric Specials? What is you opinion on their usefulness and accuracy, etc.? I think I know the answer, but thought I'd take advantage of the considerable cumulative expertise present on this list. While I'm at it, how about the British Prop Special? Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 01:53:29 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: When Are You Going to Do The Zeppelin-Staaken Eric? Message-ID: <20010303095329.84531.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Eric, When are gonna to do the Zeppelin-Staaken R now that you've had some experienced with the Gotha? Should I hold my breath? Todd the 1st, King of Iowa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:34:36 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: RE: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: <002301c0a3cd$ff84f2a0$2ae8b094@sandyada> > Even so, one of my favourite fokkers is this one: > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Adam/CP/Dr1.jpg > D. Thank you kindly Sir. Actually, I've just finished Jacobs black one, all bar the final varnish coat, so I do quite like Tripes really! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:31:37 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: : Any Geordies out there? Message-ID: <002201c0a3cd$feac45e0$2ae8b094@sandyada> >Hi out there (I don't know the correct for north of Engl.) Wye eye, Pet - would be about the nearest I could type. Don't try to imitate Geordie - you can only do it if you are born there - to anybody else its totally incomprehensible. Geordies are a nation unto themselves - usually described as Scotsmen with their brains bashed in! >I'm going to visit schools in the Newcastle area next week, but hopefully I'll have time >for a little R&R in between. >Anything to do in the area for people with our esoteric interests? Hobby shops, >exhibits etc?? There used to be a good model shop, but its now a shade of its former self- with great originality its called The Model Shop - but mostly railways and cars. There is a big Beatties shop in the centre, which often has good sales offers, but mostly standard ot stuff - Tamiwaga at 20% off etc. If you are interested in old engineering, there is a wonderful open-air museum at a place called Beamish, near Chester-le-Street. Trams run round the village, actors dressed in Edwardian costume speak to you and serve you in the shops etc.. If you can get 80 or so miles north up the A1, over the border to East Fortune in East Lothian, you'll find the Royal Scottish Museum of Flight, with lots of OT stuff - bits of WWI planes - the Pilcher Hawk is there - which many people is actually the first real flying machine - predates Wrights by a couple of decades. Lots of WW2 (Me163 etc) planes and jets (the Vulcan that bombed Port Stanley etc). You can see the rebuilding project on a Blenheim in progress. They have a webpage, which yahoo would find for you, under Museum of Flight. You'd need to check for Winter opening times though. HTH. Sandy PS when will you be there? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 12:59:57 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Form-a-plane was Joystick Message-ID: >From: "Len Smith" >You have me confused, are you talking the Formaplane or >Libramodels/Scaleplanes FE2b ? As Dennis says the JC is on all of the >Formaplane versions that I have, I agree that the top ribs are indented > >not raised, but the details are sharp and not fuzzy. > >Joe died in early 1998, having been responsible for many of the vacs >produced by Formaplane, Roseplane, Libramodels, Scaleplanes, Xtraplane, > >Blue Rider and Phoenix (his own Company I believe). Strangely the > >Phoenix version of the Caudron GIV was not mastered by Joe but by Les > >Cooper (who was the man behind Libramodels and its subsidiary > >Scaleplanes, I believe). I met Les a couple of years ago at one of the > >Aerojumbles, but never met Joe to my sorrow. Incidently Joe worked as > >a tool maker for Airfix for many years and yes the Stirling ( not the > >Sunderland) was his work. Len: The kit is the Formaplane FE2b #C21. As you say, the ribs are indented. OK, the detail is not as fuzzy as you would get from an Airframe mold where the plastic is pulled over a mold (the mold is the male) but I would say there's a lot of imperfections - bumps and scrathes - maybe bits of material go into the female mold. Dennis Ugualano found the "JC" on his kit but I cannot locate it on mine. this kit is nowhere near as nice as the Libramodels' Pomilio PE, which does have the "JC" embossed in the corner of the vac sheet. As a child, I built just about all the available RAF WW2 Airfix kits, especially the bombers, but never did get around to the Stirling. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 13:05:22 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: : Any Geordies out there? Message-ID: >From: "Sandy Adam" > >Hi out there (I don't know the correct for north of Engl.) > >Wye eye, Pet - would be about the nearest I could type. Don't try to > >imitate Geordie - you can only do it if you are born there - to anybody > >else its totally incomprehensible. Geordies are a nation unto >themselves >- usually described as Scotsmen with their brains bashed in! Sandy: No, actually, the Geordies have served England faithfully for years, keeping the Scots from coming south. At least, that's what this bloke from Hartlepool once told me. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3146 **********************