WWI Digest 3142 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) New Eduard 2001 Kit Catalog by Todd Hayes 2) Re: Nie. 28 Interior Color by "Muth & Zulick" 3) Re: AR.1, was Re: Joystick Kits by "Len Smith" 4) Re: Please Explain This Picture by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 5) Re: Please Explain This Picture by Todd Hayes 6) Re: Zeppelin - ot by "Tom Solinski" 7) Re: AR.1, was Re: Joystick Kits by "Matt Bittner" 8) Re: AR.1, was Re: Joystick Kits by Karen Rychlewski 9) Re: AR.1 by "Matt Bittner" 10) Formaplane kits, was Re: Joystick Kits by "Hans Trauner" 11) Re: very off-topic update by KarrArt@aol.com 12) Re: 0/400 update by KarrArt@aol.com 13) Re: Internet Modeler Marches on by KarrArt@aol.com 14) Form-a-plane was Joystick by Dennis Ugulano 15) W4 Dame Karen by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 16) Re: Form-a-plane was Joystick by "Michael Kendix" 17) Zulis update by "Bob Pearson" 18) Re: Internet Modeler Marches on by REwing@aol.com 19) Another Kit Disposal by RadspadMike@netscape.net 20) Re: Internet Modeler Marches on by KarrArt@aol.com 21) Re: Internet Modeler Marches on by RadspadMike@netscape.net 22) Re: Another Kit Disposal by "David Calhoun" 23) Re: Internet Modeler Marches on by Ernest Thomas 24) Kit Disposal by RadspadMike@netscape.net 25) Re: Internet Modeler Marches on by KarrArt@aol.com 26) Re: Form-a-plane was Joystick by Dennis Ugulano 27) Unfavorites, was Internet modeller marches on by Crawford Neil 28) Giant bombers SPAD SE by Crawford Neil 29) Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on by "dfernet0" 30) RE: Internet Modeler Marches on by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 31) RE: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on by Crawford Neil 32) RE: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on by "dfernet0" 33) Re:which one would you be by Crawford Neil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:29:31 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: New Eduard 2001 Kit Catalog Message-ID: <20010301212931.96170.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings Listees, I received the new Eduard kit catalog today. My thoughts: Bring 'em on Eduard! Besides the kits already announced, the catalog shows in 1:48, an Albatros D.III OEF series 253 (8093), a Sopwith Comic profipack (8059), and an Albatros W.4 profipack w/windhof radiators (8084). Sorry no SE5a yet. For the micro scale modelers, it shows two Albatros D.III's (7033 profi/ 7032), two Fokker E.III's (7022/7023 profi), two Hanriot HD.1's (7036/7037 profi), and two Hanriot HD.2's (7038/7039 profi). And here's a tantalizing section with nothing listed: 1:32 kits. Don't salivate too much!! Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:26:39 -0500 From: "Muth & Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Nie. 28 Interior Color Message-ID: <007101c0a296$4e911920$0100005a@ptd.net> A big thanks to Matt for once again doing my scanning. Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday,February 28,2001 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Nie. 28 Interior Color > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:08:43 -0500 (EST), Muth & Zulick wrote: > > > Desert Sand from ModelMasters the best. The French Beige from PollyScale is > > a pretty good "yellow" that I used on the Morane that Matt promises will > > soon be on the images page! > > Tis there. > > > Matt Bittner > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:38:05 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: AR.1, was Re: Joystick Kits Message-ID: <000201c0a298$74d63d20$565808c3@mesh> Matt, Nope, it was a Formaplane !!! A lousy one at that, luckily the Joystick version is much better. Some Formaplane kits, the ones in plastic bags, were pretty dire, but the ones in pizza boxes generally build into nice models. All of the Joystick kits that I have also build up well. Basic, maybe. Crude, certainly not. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: AR.1, was Re: Joystick Kits > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:28:17 -0500 (EST), Karen Rychlewski wrote: > > > Nope, it was a Formaplane > > You hit a memory nerve, so I had to pull it out. This time my memory > was right, for once! Sorry, but it's a Joystick. Good thing too, as > Formaplane's tended to be even more crude than Joystick kits... > > > Matt Bittner > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:57:15 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Please Explain This Picture Message-ID: It's a post-war civilian lash-up. It was featured in an insignia magazine some time ago and also appears in the Czech Albatros book hth Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:02:06 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Please Explain This Picture Message-ID: <20010301220206.84850.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Peter, It looks very strange. Todd --- LEONARDPeterL@aol.com wrote: > It's a post-war civilian lash-up. It was featured in > an insignia magazine > some time ago and also appears in the Czech Albatros > book > > hth > > Peter L __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:38:51 -0600 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Zeppelin - ot Message-ID: <00c001c0a2a0$6435fa20$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> Not and expert but an avid Helium ( hydrogen) head. Watcha need? Tom S ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Fabris To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:12 PM Subject: Zeppelin - ot > I need a Zeppelin expert - about the LZ-127. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 16:43:15 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: AR.1, was Re: Joystick Kits Message-ID: <200103012243.OAA07097@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:44:06 -0500 (EST), Len Smith wrote: > Nope, it was a Formaplane !!! A lousy one at that, luckily the Joystick > version is much better. Oh! I'm sorry, Karen. I didn't realise Formaplane did one as well. > Some Formaplane kits, the ones in plastic bags, were pretty dire, but the > ones in pizza boxes generally build into nice models. All of the Joystick > kits that I have also build up well. Basic, maybe. Crude, certainly not. Excellent. Thanks for the message! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:42:46 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: AR.1, was Re: Joystick Kits Message-ID: <3A9ED065.9187972D@earthlink.net> OK...mine's a formaplane, yours are joysticks... Suppose we could bash them together into one nice dorand?? Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 16:51:32 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: AR.1 Message-ID: <200103012251.OAA07279@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:51:55 -0500 (EST), Karen Rychlewski wrote: > OK...mine's a formaplane, yours are joysticks... > Suppose we could bash them together into one nice dorand?? Nope, sorry. Knowing the quality of Formaplane, I *know* the Joystick is better. ;-) However, if you can convince someone - Sierra maybe? - to come with the AR.2, I would be extremely happy. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 01:08:35 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Formaplane kits, was Re: Joystick Kits Message-ID: <001a01c0a2ac$ecd48840$caa272d4@custom-pc> > >> Some Formaplane kits, the ones in plastic bags, were pretty dire, but the >> ones in pizza boxes generally build into nice models. All of the Joystick >> kits that I have also build up well. Basic, maybe. Crude, certainly not. Hi, on my last trip to my storage facility, when I removed the Staaken Vac, I remembered my other vac's and found them. This 'collection' consists of a bunch of Formaplanes. There are two Albatros BI, a british two-seat-pusher ( F.E. 2?), a Be 2x , plus other wwwi a/c, plus some between-the-wars british naval biplanes with names you never get heard of. I would give them away for free. If anybody is interested, I would check the details ( exakt no. and types). I really would prefer to sent them as one parcel! Maybe you guys in the US can share them. Here is the thick end: I have learned that paostage to the US is high. Very high on surface, very very high on air. So, if I can get, let me say, a decal set in 1/48 lozenge 1 upper 1 lower, for the complete set of kits, I would be happy. Hans P.S. For the masochist collectors, only: The same offer is for a complete set of Veeday kits. I have them all, the Be2e even three or four kits. All of them for one decal set (postage). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:41:26 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: very off-topic update Message-ID: In a message dated 3/1/01 4:03:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, Neil.Crawford@volvo.com writes: << I suppose it's blasphemous to say so, but it's even nicer than the Handley-Page. Which was most work Robert? I guess the HP, but I can't really see that there should be so much more work in it. /Neil >> The Blenheim was without doubt the most difficult thing I've ever tackled. It really drove home the point that most of the time it's easier to start with fresh clean stock and scratchbuild than try to hack something useful from exisiting parts. I'd rather rig 1000 biplanes than do another B******m! RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:41:27 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 0/400 update Message-ID: In a message dated 3/1/01 1:26:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, Neil.Crawford@volvo.com writes: << Nothing really just be careful when building your Airfix HP0/400 to get the top wing dihedral correct from the start. And the Lewis guns are works of art, I've been using the debris of that model ever since. /Neil >> I'll never convert to 1/72, but there are so many good things to say about the Airfix HP. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:41:28 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: <4f.821bc0f.27d04638@aol.com> In a message dated 3/1/01 12:00:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, bpearson@rapidnet.net writes: << For those of you on AOL who have trouble with that URL, here is the TOC http://www.internetmodeler.com/2001/march/contents.htm Regards, Bob Pearson >> Wierd. Am the only AOLer who's never had trouble like this? I've got IM listed in my favorite places box and every month I go there and click- there's the new edition- no mess and no unpleasant bending. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:02:19 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Form-a-plane was Joystick Message-ID: <200103012102_MC2-C763-1377@compuserve.com> Let me add a little background to Form-a-plane models. Eight kits, Hanroit HD-1, Rumpler 6B1, FE2B, Halberstadt CLII, Morane Saulnier A-1, BE2c, Nieuport 12 and the Albatros B.II were all made by the master of vacuforming, Joe Chebbock. As he neared the last of the 8, Form-a-plane was sold to an outfit called MHW Models. They farmed out at least 7 kits to others who did not have near the skill of Joe as a mold maker. To be kind these kits were garbage. So, any of the first 8 are great kits for their time. You have to remember, this was the beginning of any decent vacs with the exception of Rareplane, who did four OT models. With today's after market products, any of these kits will build into an excellent kit. My Rumpler 6B-1 is one of my nicest looking kits. And I built it only 5 years ago. Just my 2 cents worth. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 2/1/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:29:15 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: W4 Dame Karen Message-ID: Dear Dame Karen, the info on the W4 arrived today, very interesting and a big help for the build of Sierra Scale kit I have. Many thanks, I hope I can return the favor sometime. Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 02:29:24 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Form-a-plane was Joystick Message-ID: >From: Dennis Ugulano > >Let me add a little background to Form-a-plane models. > >Eight kits, Hanroit HD-1, Rumpler 6B1, FE2B, Halberstadt CLII, Morane >Saulnier A-1, BE2c, Nieuport 12 and the Albatros B.II were all made by >the >master of vacuforming, Joe Chebbock. As he neared the last of the >8, >Form-a-plane was sold to an outfit called MHW Models. They farmed >out at >least 7 kits to others who did not have near the skill of Joe as >a mold >maker. To be kind these kits were garbage. > >So, any of the first 8 are great kits for their time Dennis: I know you are vastly more experienced than I at building WW1 vacs, however, I don't agree about the FE2B. I've got the kit sitting right here next to me. No doubt, it is buildable and it contains strut material, a metal prop and wheels. But: 1. The mold is really fuzzy in parts with losts of clan up required that will surely result in lost detail. 2. Worst of all, the ribs on the the wings' upper surface are "indented" - they are grooves rather than subtle outward raised ribs. Yes, you can fill them and sand, and make your own ribs with whatever, but there's a fair amount to do here. 3. Mine has no gun, maybe it's missing because I got mine for free. 4. The engine parts are in the vac mold so probably need fundamental work or an aftermarket thing. Yes, it might be an enjoyable build but it'd take a lot of time and sand paper. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 20:03:14 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Zulis update Message-ID: <200103020403.UAA02875@mail.rapidnet.net> Greetings all, Chatting to Dave #13 right now ... I've passed on everyone's best wishes and would like to mention that his dad is having surgery tomorrow morning, so those inclined in such a fashion to please wish him well. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:15:56 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: <13.121f0c6a.27d0787c@aol.com> --part1_13.121f0c6a.27d0787c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nope, you're not the only one, RK. I have the site bookmarked with a July 1999 mark and have never had a problem logging on. I guess it is all that virtuous living you and I do! ;^} BTW, great issue Bob and Chris!! -Rick- > Weird. Am the only AOLer who's never had trouble like this? I've got IM > listed in my favorite places box and every month I go there and > click-there's the new edition-no mess and no unpleasant bending. > RK --part1_13.121f0c6a.27d0787c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit    Nope, you're not the only one, RK.  I have the site bookmarked with a
July 1999 mark and have never had a problem logging on.  I guess it is all
that virtuous living you and I do! ;^}  BTW, great issue Bob and Chris!!
   -Rick-

Weird. Am the only AOLer who's never had trouble like this? I've got IM
listed in my favorite places box and every month I go there and
click-there's the new edition-no mess and no unpleasant bending.
RK

 --part1_13.121f0c6a.27d0787c_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 23:36:25 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Another Kit Disposal Message-ID: <783E7F78.48FFF339.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Hello all, In a continuing effort to rid myself of kits I know I will never build and AFAIK have no significant resale value, I offer the following. I only ask that recipients reimburse postage costs. I will not be embarassed if there are no takers - - the residue will go to "Good Will". Please respond "off list". Renwal Aeroskin D.H. 2, Major Lanoe Hawker's, 1/48 Renwal Aeroskin Nieuport 28, Capt E.V. Rickenbacker's, 1/48 Toko Sopwith T.F.2 "Salamander", 1/72 ot ALERT: Airfix Anson, 1/72 SMER Blackburn B-6 Shark, 1/72 AMT Blackburn Shark, 1/72 Encore Bristol Beaufort Mk.II, 1/72 Vista Fairey Fulmar Mk.I, 1/72 Matchbox Wellesley Mk. I,1/72 Revell Blackburn SKUA, 1/72 Matchbox Fairey Seafox, 1/72 Airfix Blenheim IV (2 each) Cooperativa Bristol Blenheim Mk. I/IF Mike K. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:48:00 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: <15.10801933.27d08000@aol.com> In a message dated 3/1/01 8:18:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, REwing@aol.com writes: << Nope, you're not the only one, RK. I have the site bookmarked with a July 1999 mark and have never had a problem logging on. I guess it is all that virtuous living you and I do! ;^} BTW, great issue Bob and Chris!! -Rick- >> Yeah, that virtuous living will do it every time. That, and threatening the computer. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 23:54:49 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: <270F5A80.381665A1.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Yes, the List reeks of virtue and virtuosity tonight. Will someone please start a controversial thread to get things back to normal? By the way, Gaston, AFAIK, you never replied to my suggestion that instead of Kempf's Dr.I, that you do Voss's F.I so that we would know what color the cowl was. You seem to be doing extremely well in the historical research area. :-) Mike K. Rick wrote: >      Nope, you're not the only one, RK.  I have the site bookmarked with a July 1999 mark and have never had a problem logging on.  I guess it is all that virtuous living you and I do! ;^} __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:15:40 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Another Kit Disposal Message-ID: <000801c0a2f0$f9b7d8c0$3d0b3ccc@oemcomputer> Hi Mike,Do you have either the Renwal Nieuport or DH2 still available? If so I will pay postage for them, let me know. Thanks, Dave Calhoun 10 lake Drive Enfield, CT 06082 -----Original Message----- From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, March 01, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: Another Kit Disposal >Hello all, > >In a continuing effort to rid myself of kits I know I will never build and AFAIK have no significant resale value, I offer the following. I only ask that recipients reimburse postage costs. I will not be embarassed if there are no takers - - the residue will go to "Good Will". > >Please respond "off list". > >Renwal Aeroskin D.H. 2, Major Lanoe Hawker's, 1/48 >Renwal Aeroskin Nieuport 28, Capt E.V. Rickenbacker's, 1/48 >Toko Sopwith T.F.2 "Salamander", 1/72 >ot ALERT: >Airfix Anson, 1/72 >SMER Blackburn B-6 Shark, 1/72 >AMT Blackburn Shark, 1/72 >Encore Bristol Beaufort Mk.II, 1/72 >Vista Fairey Fulmar Mk.I, 1/72 >Matchbox Wellesley Mk. I,1/72 >Revell Blackburn SKUA, 1/72 >Matchbox Fairey Seafox, 1/72 >Airfix Blenheim IV (2 each) >Cooperativa Bristol Blenheim Mk. I/IF > >Mike K. >__________________________________________________________________ >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 23:16:51 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: <3A9F2CC3.CDC14D23@bellsouth.net> RadspadMike@netscape.net wrote: > > Yes, the List reeks of virtue and virtuosity tonight. Will someone please start a controversial thread to get things back to normal? Ok, what's everyone's 'least' favorite OT airplane(or tank, or whatever) I'm thinking it for a bit before I answer. E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 00:29:11 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Kit Disposal Message-ID: <73235B7B.26E05280.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Errr... from the response, I'm thinking the Renwal kits were more desirable than I had been led to believe. All kits have been claimed and I'm splitting the Renwals between the first two to ask for them. I'll be in touch with the claimants for mailing details. Mike K. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:39:11 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: In a message dated 3/1/01 9:17:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << Ok, what's everyone's 'least' favorite OT airplane(or tank, or whatever) I'm thinking it for a bit before I answer. E. >> Fokker D.VII, but only because of its ubiquity- in the last part of the war, the movies, reproductions...if it had been some obscure thing with a low production run........that's not to say if somebody gave me one I'd turn it down. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:43:27 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Form-a-plane was Joystick Message-ID: <200103020043_MC2-C763-177D@compuserve.com> Michael, >> Yes, it might be an enjoyable build but it'd take a lot of time and sand paper. << Please don't get me wrong. They are far from perfect. When I got it, that was all that was available. You built poor vacs or you scratchbuilt. There was no other option. It will take a lot of time and sand. But I will await your results and marvel at your work as usual. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 2/1/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:19:37 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Unfavorites, was Internet modeller marches on Message-ID: This is nearly impossible to answer, because there really isn't any aeroplane that I don't want to model. I could answer "all tanks", but that would be cheating somehow. So here are my (slight non-favorites) Fokker DVIII (razor) , there's a wing missing somewhere, and it's just too clean and simple to attract me. Avro 504 in RFC scheme, just boring, nothing really wrong with it, I have a kit of a post war 504N that I'm dying to build. And for something french I choose the Nieuport 10, the Bebé and 17 are quite nice but the trainer versions are so watered down that they become rather dull. But on the whole I could happily build any of these, in fact the more I think about it, the more I want to.In fact this is getting more and more difficult to write, I'm getting an irresistable urge to get out my old Airfix 504K and have a go, those nice shiny black cowlings really look rather smart, with some double rigging, and woodwork it would be a mindblower. And of course the DVIII is loz-covered, and the cowlings are pretty neat on that too, and the Ni10 is so fragile looking a good job on that could be a winner..... This is a silly thread;-) /Neil > Ok, what's everyone's 'least' favorite OT airplane(or tank, > or whatever) > I'm thinking it for a bit before I answer. > E. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:07:38 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "WW1 list (E-mail)" Subject: Giant bombers SPAD SE Message-ID: If I was ever foolish enough to join the giant cookup it would be with the SPAD SE, which is rather a nice twin bomber a bit like a french Vimy. When I got the FMP book this was one of the types that really shook me, this book is just so good, I've a friend who will happily pay 100 SEK (10USD) for a crappy magazine if it has one new type in it, here is a book that has a new type on every other page! There is also the SPAD SD which is a weirdo bomber with a mid-mounted engine and pulpit, not so good looking as the SE though. And the SPAD 19 which is a 3-bay version of the Spad XI. Does anyone know if there are more photos of these available? It says something like BOFFY as a source, what is this? I wouldn't want to start scratchbuilding and then when it's half finished suddenly find a cache of new photo's showing everything I'd done wrong. /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:07:50 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: <006301c0a300$a3867780$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ernest asked: > Ok, what's everyone's 'least' favorite OT airplane(or tank, or whatever) Gee... you make me think too early in the morning... (yawn....) Let's see... Siemens Scuckert D.IV: fuselage too chubby, wings too narrow (however it would turn into a nice caricature) Bristol Scout D: Looks like too neat for my taste, lacks the personality of the Sopwith Pup. Dorand A.R. 1: yeech! Sopwith 1 1/2 strutter: Nice plane, but I can't feel attached to it. However someday I'll build one, since an argie volunteer in WW1 flew one of these. In fact, as Neil stated, there's no plane amongst these that I wouldn't want to build some day or other. Besides aesthetical appeals, I think that I'm attracted to the technology of that era. D. I need coffee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:34:43 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: Hi guys, thank you very much for this issue. I would like to congratulate all three listees who provided us with excellent build articles. Michael, Robert, Dave, you are great. Also I'd like to thank Robert and Dave for your comments and suggestions to Kissenberth's and Christiansen's planes. I plan to make them in the future, so I owe you a beer or two for these pieces of information. Cheers, Tomasz -------------------R--E--K--L--A--M--A--------------------- Szukasz wiedzy? 85 tysiecy uaktualnianych ciagle hasel. Encyklopedia Internautica: http://encyklopedia.interia.pl/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:14:47 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: Diego wrote: > Siemens Scuckert D.IV: fuselage too chubby, wings too narrow > (however it > would turn into a nice caricature) This is one of my favorites, my fuselage is getting a bit too chubby, whats wrong with that! > Bristol Scout D: Looks like too neat for my taste, lacks the > personality of > the Sopwith Pup. Yes the Scout is a little plain, though I'm not so keen on the Pup either. > Dorand A.R. 1: yeech! Isn't this the gawky one? If so it's got a lovely nose. > Sopwith 1 1/2 strutter: Nice plane, Yes, especially in a french scheme:-) but I can't feel attached > to it. However > someday I'll build one, since an argie volunteer in WW1 flew > one of these. > In fact, as Neil stated, there's no plane amongst these that > I wouldn't want > to build some day or other. Besides aesthetical appeals, I > think that I'm > attracted to the technology of that era. > D. > I need coffee I need a drink! /Neil > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:28:30 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Unfavourites WAS: Internet Modeler Marches on Message-ID: <00b301c0a30b$e8bde260$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil! (seems like we're the only ones on-line today! (the SS D.IV)> This is one of my favorites, my fuselage is getting a bit too > chubby, whats wrong with that! On the case of the plane, the wings doesn't match the rest of the airframe, so it's unpleasant for me, as the korean plastic merchant would say. In your case, I'm sure that you'd keep proportions with your wings ;-) Speaking of wich, here's another subject for another silly thread "If you were a OT airplane wich one would you be". I'm sure that many will claim to be Albatros D.V but few will recognize to be a DFW T.28! I have to admit that I may be like as akward and obsolete as a FE8! (Dorand)> Isn't this the gawky one? If so it's got a lovely nose. Yes, you're right. But the wing struts are awful for me. Looks like bad assebled kit. For that, I have the rest of my collection. (Sopwith strutter)> Yes, especially in a french scheme:-) In fact Almonacid flew with the french foreign legion. > I need a drink! I do too. 2 cups of coffee and no effect. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:42:41 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re:which one would you be Message-ID: I want to be the DeHavilland DH6, "the clutching hand", especially if there are any female aircraft around! /Neil Diego wrote: Speaking of > wich, here's another subject for another silly thread "If you > were a OT > airplane wich one would you be". I'm sure that many will claim to be > Albatros D.V but few will recognize to be a DFW T.28! I have > to admit that I > may be like as akward and obsolete as a FE8! > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3142 **********************