WWI Digest 3130 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: ot - The Don is dead by Shane Weier 2) Michael and Ray- Decals Away! by Todd Hayes 3) RE: SP Decals by Shane Weier 4) RE: As good as yellow vs. green was: Pfalz Review on PMMS by Shane Weier 5) Re: Handley-Page O/400 References by "Brad & Merville" 6) RE: Scale Link by "Nigel Rayner" 7) Re: Back to the Albatros by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 8) Re: All OT or some ot ?? by KarrArt@aol.com 9) Re: All OT or some ot ?? by KarrArt@aol.com 10) Re: German pilot commands... by "Limon3" 11) Re: Back to the Albatros by "Limon3" 12) RE: All OT or some ot ?? by Brent Theobald 13) Re: Back to the Albatros by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 14) Re: Handley-Page O/400 References by RadspadMike@netscape.net 15) New 1:48 Nieuport 17 Decals by Aeromaster by Todd Hayes 16) RE: New 1:48 Nieuport 17 Decals by Aeromaster by Shane Weier 17) Re: Scale Link by roguerpj 18) Seven Swabians Fokker D.VII color question by "David Calhoun" 19) RE: Seven Swabians Fokker D.VII color question by Shane Weier 20) Re: Scale Link by Karen Rychlewski 21) Re: Seven Swabians Fokker D.VII color question by "David Calhoun" 22) Mesopotamian Half flight Caudron G.3 by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 23) RE: Seven Swabians Fokker D.VII color question by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:12:59 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: ot - The Don is dead Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748CCB@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Sandy, > Very off colour.... > "Can you help me, Doctor, I seem to have a cricket ball stuck > up my @r$e" > "How's that?" > "Don't you start." ROTFLMAOAHMS Bloody hell Sandy. This early in the morning it isn't right to laugh so much you cry. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:18:51 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Michael and Ray- Decals Away! Message-ID: <20010226221851.41621.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> Decals Away! Enjoy. There should be enough to do at least a dozen a/c. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:20:21 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: SP Decals Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748CCD@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Tomasz says: > I agree with Witold, that the color density, detail level and > register are > great and the film is very thin. I haven't applied any SP > Decal onto model, > so I can't comment how they react with solving solutions. It seems that these decals are getting good reviews. I hope that they think to do some of the late model Nieuport sesquiplane markings as used by Poland. I like those nekkid ladies! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:49:39 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: As good as yellow vs. green was: Pfalz Review on PMMS Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748CCE@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Volker, Hans and david are having a discussion - I may join in: > Hans wrote: > > It's dark, it's dark, it's dark! I just have a scan to > > judge from, but there > > is no difference between fuselage and underside of top > > wing. Maybe it was > > painted mocca brown over all, but it is too dark for 'Silbergrau'. > > Sorry, old buddy but you must be looking at a different photo > to the one I have seen. > In the photo from the Degelow/Kilduff book there is a fair > bit of reflection > in the surface colour of the underside of the top wing as the > Pfalz lays on its back. IMO the lower surface of the top wing is mostly dark because it is mostly showing a reflection of the black fuselage immediately behind it. The surface of the wing is glossy enough to be a mirror at the angle of the cameramans view and appears blindingly white beyond the fuselage and in below the cockpit where it reflects the sky beyond the aircraft. The top of the lower wing is another story again. It's dead black In this case it's in shadow, the photo is quite contrasty and the reflected background is black, so it may yet be silbergrau OR black but IMO it's impossible to tell either way > > The struts do have the same colour as the wheel covering! > > Again - not in the photo I'm looking at. The wheel covers are > appreciably darker than the struts. I agree with David in this case. I should be very surprised if the wheels aren't black and the struts silbergrau. > > Volker adds: > > PROOF of the colour seems impossible. > > I'll drink to that! Hic! > This is both the fun and the frustration of WW1 modelling. Agreed. It must make the more dedicated members of the Colour Police fraternity fairly faint with anger :-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:24:35 -0500 From: "Brad & Merville" To: Subject: Re: Handley-Page O/400 References Message-ID: <001f01c0a04b$48a777e0$87885ad1@default> Mike Yeah, that's the one. Unfortunately my copy was published in 1992 and it seems like the total sum of published WW1 aviation information has doubled since! It's published by Hikoki. Brad -----Original Message----- From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, February 26, 2001 9:34 AM Subject: Re: Handley-Page O/400 References > >Wow! Thanks again, Brad. It will take me some time to digest these. Is B.E. Ketley's book, Military Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918, a bibliograpy of reference materials for WWI aircraft? If so, seems it would be a valuable addition to anyone's reference library and I will be looking for a copy. > >Mike K. > >Brad wrote: >> >> Military Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918 by B.E. Ketley list the following: >> >> Air Enthusiast Vol. 5 #2 (plan + interior) >> Aircraft Illustrated Monthly, March 1969 >> Air Historian #2 >> Reconaissance & Bomber Aircraft 1914 - 1918, Harleyford >> Cross & Cockade Vol. 3 #3 >> Flying Review Monthly Vol. 23 #5 >> Handley Page Aircraft Since 1907, Putnam >> Illustrated Encyclopaedia of Aircraft No. 103 & No. 137 >> Janes 1919 >> Planes (later known as Wingspan) Vol. 1 #4 >> RAF Yearbook 1977 >> Aeroplanes of the RFC, J.M. Bruce >> Military Aircraft of WW1, Giorgio Apostolo, 1974 (aka: Color Profiles Of >> World War 1 Combat Planes, Crescent Books) >> WW1 Aero #108 >> >> Written accounts include: 'Green Balls' by Paul Bewsher and 'The Big Bombers >> of WW1- A Canadians Journal' by Lieut. Hugh B. Monaghan RFC. >> >> Scale Models International did a build article on the Airfix kit in their >> May 1984 issue. >> >> Hope these help > > >__________________________________________________________________ >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:37:20 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: Scale Link Message-ID: <000001c0a04d$0fb94560$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Dale wrote: > While searching through the Scale Link site for diorama supplies I came > across the WW1 page. 1/32 scale but worth a look for anyone > building in that No, don't stop there! This site is an amazing source of materials in all scales. They have a bunch of OT era-vehicles in one of the 1/76 scale sections that could be adapted for all sorts of OT diroamas. There are barbed wire strands in photoetch plus all sorts of useful stuff for dioramas in various scales. I spent about 30 minutes slavering over all sorts of interesting stuff. BTW, the barbed wire will be used (well planned to be used) with my resin 1/76 Schneider CA1 from Retromodels. They do a very good range of OT 1/76 resin armour - check out http://members.aol.com/eexokit/LaPageEXOKIT/RETROMODELS.html Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:34:55 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Back to the Albatros Message-ID: <00ef01c0a055$1c1079c0$023c183f@cyrixp166> My source indicates that gray-green they used on the cowl & struts. I used scaled RLM-02. Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: dfernet0 To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:20 AM Subject: Back to the Albatros > Hi > On the lower port wing of the Albatros D.II there's a panel molded, wich > must be a step surface for the pilot. Do you know wich colour should be? > Aluminium? Plywood? > TIA > D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:59:52 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: All OT or some ot ?? Message-ID: <60.bf5d253.27cc5608@aol.com> In a message dated 2/22/01 4:58:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, btheobal@sta.samsung.com writes: << After WWI I have a long standing affair with Russian aircraft along with their German and Finnish adversaries. I do more Finnish than German. >> After WW I, I'd have to say one of my favorites areas is the whole Finnish thing, up till about 1944. One of these days, I will get around to a nice Finnish Nieuport....or something. RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:59:50 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: All OT or some ot ?? Message-ID: In a message dated 2/23/01 12:00:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, thegreatlandoni@hotmail.com writes: << The most recent model I built was the original "Robby The Robot" >> I scratchbuilt that thing about 15/20 years ago for a client...no kits out then! RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:16:57 -0800 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: German pilot commands... Message-ID: <002501c0a05a$fb424920$84f7303f@f4w2s5> Then from the French pilots, "M***e!" when it wouldn't start! .... :-} Gabe -----Original Message----- From: Hans Trauner To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, February 26, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: Re: German pilot commands... >Gaston, Hans and everybody else > >The starting sequence on a Albatros is described in detail in the Mikesh >book. I'll send the command off list to Hans.It seems that there where only >three oral commands: >"AUS" (Mechanic after priming the cylinders, advising the pilot to keep >the ignition off ( AUS=off) >"AUS" ( Pilot to confirm that) >Now the mechanic turns the prop 6times to draw the priming into the >cylinders >"FREI" ( Mechanic, as getting a free (= frei) position from the a/c) >" FREI" ( Pilot's confirming that) >Now the pilot turns the starting magneto's crank as rapidly as possible. >And - the engine starts! No prop-swinging and things like that. >For the sim: >"Aus " - " Aus" pause "Frei" -"Frei" - >blobber-blobb-puck-prmrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......... > >Hans > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:18:59 -0800 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: Back to the Albatros Message-ID: <002e01c0a05b$43e01180$84f7303f@f4w2s5> Didn't the Fok. DVII have the same strip? I thought it might be wood, since it seems like a convenient place to put large, clumsy feet. Gabe -----Original Message----- From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, February 26, 2001 4:42 PM Subject: Re: Back to the Albatros >My source indicates that gray-green they used on the cowl & struts. I used >scaled RLM-02. > >Cyg. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: dfernet0 >To: Multiple recipients of list >Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:20 AM >Subject: Back to the Albatros > > >> Hi >> On the lower port wing of the Albatros D.II there's a panel molded, wich >> must be a step surface for the pilot. Do you know wich colour should be? >> Aluminium? Plywood? >> TIA >> D. >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:21:15 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: All OT or some ot ?? Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79ED9E@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy! RK Promises: One of these days, I will get around to a nice Finnish Nieuport....or something. To which I remark: I have an article in the works about those Finnish Nieuports. I find it interesting and amusing that they were stolen from the Russians who built them without license. It is also amazing all the stuff they stuffed into those little planes when they made the trip from St. Petersburg, over the Gulf of Finland, to Finland. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:33:24 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Back to the Albatros Message-ID: <000f01c0a05d$47de7d60$e039183f@cyrixp166> Uh-Oh. Having read this a little more carefully, I seen that you mean a wing-walk, not the little stirrup device that had a sprung metal plate.The only picture I have of this area is pg 12 of Squadron's Albatros Fighters in Action. I do not see evidence of a wing-walk. Dan-San Abbott's color profiles do not indicate a wing-walk either. John Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: Limon3 To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Back to the Albatros > Didn't the Fok. DVII have the same strip? I thought it might be wood, since > it seems like a convenient place to put large, clumsy feet. > Gabe > -----Original Message----- > From: John & Allison Cyganowski > To: Multiple recipients of list > Date: Monday, February 26, 2001 4:42 PM > Subject: Re: Back to the Albatros > > > >My source indicates that gray-green they used on the cowl & struts. I used > >scaled RLM-02. > > > >Cyg. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: dfernet0 > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:20 AM > >Subject: Back to the Albatros > > > > > >> Hi > >> On the lower port wing of the Albatros D.II there's a panel molded, wich > >> must be a step surface for the pilot. Do you know wich colour should be? > >> Aluminium? Plywood? > >> TIA > >> D. > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:57:18 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Handley-Page O/400 References Message-ID: <3736D0C1.7F97B217.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Thanks, Hans. Brad recommended the same yesterday and I ordered it last night. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the bookseller actually has it and it's not an outdated listing that has already been sold. My success rate in this regard hasn't been too good lately. Anyhow, thanks again to everyone who answered my request for subject info. The response has been great. Mike K. Hans wrote: > > Mike, > try to get  Chaz Bowyer's Handley Page Bombers of the First World War.  ISBN > 0-946627-68-1 > Aston Publications Ltd. 1992 __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:09:43 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: New 1:48 Nieuport 17 Decals by Aeromaster Message-ID: <20010227020943.8844.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Squadron has a new decal sheet listed on their site. It shows at least one RFC, two French, and two Russian machines. TH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:26:22 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: New 1:48 Nieuport 17 Decals by Aeromaster Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748CD5@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Todd tells us: > Squadron has a new decal sheet listed on their site. > It shows at least one RFC, two French, and two Russian > machines. > Unimaginative selection - how many times do we need the Russian machine with the inscription which looks like "bob"? There's a 1RFC machine that everyone with the A/G sheets will have, and one French machine - an Esc.N76 aircraft , and another IRAS machine On the up side - they didn't use the same colour blue for both French and British markings as is sometimes done to save $$$ I guess I'll buy them, but it seems a lost opportunity when there are a lot of Esc. markings never presented in decal form Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:43:04 -0600 From: roguerpj To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Scale Link Message-ID: <6h8m9t00vr5nb4ccmi92db6b2iv35h56mi@4ax.com> Hello, What is the url for Scale Link? rob On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:37:50 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Dale wrote: >> While searching through the Scale Link site for diorama supplies I came >> across the WW1 page. 1/32 scale but worth a look for anyone >> building in that > >No, don't stop there! This site is an amazing source of materials in all >scales. They have a bunch of OT era-vehicles in one of the 1/76 scale >sections that could be adapted for all sorts of OT diroamas. There are >barbed wire strands in photoetch plus all sorts of useful stuff for dioramas >in various scales. I spent about 30 minutes slavering over all sorts of >interesting stuff. > >BTW, the barbed wire will be used (well planned to be used) with my resin >1/76 Schneider CA1 from Retromodels. They do a very good range of OT 1/76 >resin armour - check out >http://members.aol.com/eexokit/LaPageEXOKIT/RETROMODELS.html > >Cheers, > >Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:54:59 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Seven Swabians Fokker D.VII color question Message-ID: <00c801c0a08a$35093220$cb093ccc@oemcomputer> Hi all, Fokker D.VII is coming along well. Wings finally finished, fuselage started with brown nose & gray fuselage. Question that I have is on this aircraft (OAW 4649/18) what color should the wheels & landing gear wing be? Did all of the OAW aircraft have the olive green/mauve split down the center? Where the wheels painted mauve with olive green around the edges like Fokker did over turquoise? Or I can always wuss out and paint them all light gray like the one at Rhinebeck... Hope I can get the correct answer or I will have to use dicta Ira!!! Dave Calhoun ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:00:58 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Seven Swabians Fokker D.VII color question Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748CD7@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Dave, > Fokker D.VII is coming along well. Wings finally finished, > fuselage started > with brown nose & gray fuselage. Question that I have is on > this aircraft > (OAW 4649/18) what color should the wheels & landing gear > wing be? I did mine with Fokker style wheels - which may well be wrong but looks okay and iIRC the photos look like the centres are lighter than the outers - per Fokker fashion. > of the OAW aircraft have the olive green/mauve split down the > center? Mine does, FWIW > Where > the wheels painted mauve with olive green around the edges > like Fokker did over turquoise? Ahhhh...I think the Fokker wheels are traditionally shown as olive over CDL except perhaps in Squadron Signals colour profiles. In any case, I doubt if a brushload of turqouise paint got anywhere near any D.VII wheels > Or I can always wuss out and paint them all > light gray like > the one at Rhinebeck... Hope I can get the correct answer or > I will have to use dicta Ira!!! You'd have to change the Swabians too IMO - the Rhinebeck machine looks nothing like it in any regard Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:01:06 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Scale Link Message-ID: <3A9B2681.AC69AD3@earthlink.net> Rob and others Scale Link: http://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/ they also have some nice generic aviator figures in 1/32 Dame Karen roguerpj wrote: > Hello, > > What is the url for Scale Link? > > rob > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:37:50 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > > >Dale wrote: > >> While searching through the Scale Link site for diorama supplies I came > >> across the WW1 page. 1/32 scale but worth a look for anyone > >> building in that > > > >No, don't stop there! This site is an amazing source of materials in all > >scales. They have a bunch of OT era-vehicles in one of the 1/76 scale > >sections that could be adapted for all sorts of OT diroamas. There are > > >barbed wire strands in photoetch plus all sorts of useful stuff for > dioramas > >in various scales. I spent about 30 minutes slavering over all sorts of > >interesting stuff. > > > >BTW, the barbed wire will be used (well planned to be used) with my resin > >1/76 Schneider CA1 from Retromodels. They do a very good range of OT 1/76 > >resin armour - check out > >http://members.aol.com/eexokit/LaPageEXOKIT/RETROMODELS.html > > > >Cheers, > > > >Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:24:46 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Seven Swabians Fokker D.VII color question Message-ID: <00e101c0a08e$5e010820$cb093ccc@oemcomputer> Hi Shane, Were the OAW wheels painted mauve then given the olive around the edges? hard to tell from the photos, but in Windsock #9 on page 17 it shows an OAW with the mauve lozenges painted on the olive nose, and the wheels look almost identical in shade to these two colors. Dave C -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:03 PM Subject: RE: Seven Swabians Fokker D.VII color question >> (OAW 4649/18) what color should the wheels & landing gear >> wing be? > >I did mine with Fokker style wheels - which may well be wrong but looks okay >and iIRC the photos look like the centres are lighter than the outers - per >Fokker fashion. > >> Where >> the wheels painted mauve with olive green around the edges >> like Fokker did over turquoise? > >Ahhhh...I think the Fokker wheels are traditionally shown as olive over CDL >except perhaps in Squadron Signals colour profiles. In any case, I doubt if >a brushload of turqouise paint got anywhere near any D.VII wheels > > > > > > > > > > > > >********************************************************************** >The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is >intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or >copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to >forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the >MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > >e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au >phone: Australia 1800500646 >********************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:34:06 -0800 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: WW1 posts Subject: Mesopotamian Half flight Caudron G.3 Message-ID: <3A9C396E.A9BA9CB@tac.com.au> Hi all, I have a query re the above on the APMA message board at: http://members.boardhost.com/Aussiemodellers/ I have directed them to various WW1 links, but if anyone would care to reply there it would also be appreciated. Regards, Shane APMA VP ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:33:07 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Seven Swabians Fokker D.VII color question Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748CD9@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Dave, > Were the OAW wheels painted mauve then given the olive around > the edges? I suppose it's possible. When I built mine I was blissfully unaware of such subtleties and painted the wheels a la Fokker practice rather than wondering if OAW did the same. > hard to tell from the photos, Yup. > but in Windsock #9 on page 17 it shows an OAW > with the mauve lozenges painted on the olive nose, and the wheels look > almost identical in shade to these two colors. I can't recall what the D.VII specials say on this subject at all, but *that* may be a little less obscure than my memory. I *do* remember a discussion with Greg Springer and Brian Nicklas about the colour of the machine at NASM and whether the gun decking of Swabians should be in green/mauve (the photos show pale oblongs in the decking around the guns - I interpreted this to mean that the area was in OAW factory finish) Nothing about the wheels though :-( Not much help I fear. I'll have a look at the books tonight and try to give an answer grounded in more recent research and less fallible memory ! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. 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