WWI Digest 3128 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Handling problems+CURING TIME by Shane Weier 2) Re: Paint Stripper by Ernest Thomas 3) RE: Paint Stripper by Shane Weier 4) Re: Handley-Page O/400 References by KarrArt@aol.com 5) RE: SP Decals by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 6) RE: More from Knights of the Air. by "Gaston Graf" 7) ot - The Don is dead by "Sandy Adam" 8) Handley-Page O/400 References by "Sandy Adam" 9) RE: Diorama Supplies by "dfernet0" 10) Re: Diorama Supplies by "Dale Beamish" 11) RE: What I build by "dfernet0" 12) RE: Diorama Supplies by "dfernet0" 13) Re: Handling problems by Jan Vihonen 14) RE: What I build by Crawford Neil 15) RE: What I build by "dfernet0" 16) RE: Handling problems by "Gaston Graf" 17) Back to the Albatros by "dfernet0" 18) Re: Handling problems by Jan Vihonen 19) Without a net.... by Allan Wright 20) Re: Without a net.... by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 21) RE: O1 Tummelisa by Crawford Neil 22) Re: O1 Tummelisa by Witold Kozakiewicz 23) RE: Modeling Penance/absolved by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 24) As good as yellow vs. green was: Pfalz Review on PMMS by "Carol & David Solosy" 25) Re: ot - The Don is dead by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 26) RE: ot - The Don is dead by Crawford Neil 27) Re: Handling problems by Dennis Ugulano 28) RE: ot - The Don is dead by "Michael Kendix" 29) RE: ot - The Don is dead by Crawford Neil 30) More on topic models coming! by "Matt Bittner" 31) Re: Handley-Page O/400 References by RadspadMike@netscape.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:50:47 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Handling problems+CURING TIME Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748CC5@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Ray, > Why would I want to eat Baloney, SWMBo says I'm full of it > already... btw > what the heck is Baloney?? Must be a US dialect. After all, I'm forever being told that so-and-so is talking baloney ;-) Mmmmm....baloney sandwich with vegemite. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:08:44 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Paint Stripper Message-ID: <3A99E4DC.ECE207AB@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > (_x_) ScchhhhhhMACK! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:11:14 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Paint Stripper Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748CC7@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> EtH wrote > > > (_x_) > > ScchhhhhhMACK! > (_E=mc2_) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 02:02:00 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Handley-Page O/400 References Message-ID: <46.111abad9.27cb5968@aol.com> In a message dated 2/25/01 6:32:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, RadspadMike@netscape.net writes: << Thanks. Would appreciate a "heads up" when the revision is posted. Mike K. RK wrote: > Hang on for a few days. If any of you folks remember my 0/400 scratchbuilt > article that was in Internet Modeler some time ago..... well- we're preparing > a revised version to go up on my site in the next few days. >> The ol' heads up shall be duly delivered! RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:08:39 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: SP Decals Message-ID: Todd, I agree with Witold, that the color density, detail level and register are great and the film is very thin. I haven't applied any SP Decal onto model, so I can't comment how they react with solving solutions. The Spad set is displayed at Jadar shop: http://www.jadar.com.pl/html/firmy/spdecal/72004.htm but it seems to be sold out there. Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:06:00 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: More from Knights of the Air. Message-ID: I received my copy from the editor just a few days ago. They asked me to write a review of it. I did not start reading through it yet but discovered already an error. In the chapter of MvR and Brown they show a picture of Jasta 19 Dr1, saying it are JG1 Dr1, while the machine of Arthur Rahn is in the foreground. Such errors should not happen to "experts". more later Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Ray > Boorman > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 5:55 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: More from Knights of the Air. > > > I'm about halfway through this book now, I must say its a good read too. > Lets see the story about Collishaw, who during training attempted > to deliver > a note to one of his chums girlfriends. Instead he crashed into a row of > outhouses, wrecked the aircraft and ahem got covered in excrement.. > > Or the flight of SE5a's that were low on fuel and far behind > enemy lines and > attempting to extricate themselves back to the allied lines. Along comes a > Bristol Fighter that tips the balance and allows them to escape. The pilot > Andy McKeever says they must have been really embarrassed to be saved by a > two seater ;) > > Lastly and this must be where the anti Parachute arguments come from. In > 1915 the Air Board made the following declarations. "The Parachute is > unsuitable for aircraft and should only be used in balloons". It was also > there opinion "that a parachute would discourage the pilot's > fighting spirit > and cause them to abandon machines that might otherwise be capable of > returning to base". The air board again rejected their use or more > importantly their development for aircraft in 1917. It was only > in 1918 that > they started to seriously look at Parachutes for Pilots. > > Great book anyone who sees this book should snag it. > > Ray > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:41:42 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: ot - The Don is dead Message-ID: <003801c09fda$1561ed00$20e8b094@sandyada> >Very off topic,....(snip dead cricketer) Very off colour.... "Can you help me, Doctor, I seem to have a cricket ball stuck up my @r$e" "How's that?" "Don't you start." Sandy - well its Monday morning and it snowing a blizzard. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:47:08 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: Handley-Page O/400 References Message-ID: <003901c09fda$165db220$20e8b094@sandyada> >Please don't tell me to look in J.M. Bruce's "British Aeroplanes, 1914-18" as I check it out every time I'm on Abebooks, prices range from $135 to $200 US. Keep looking though. I got a copy of the Funk and Wagnall reprint for 38 bucks off abebooks a year or so back. I have an original Putnam but I'll probably sell it for a fortune on ebay now and keep the F&W. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 07:55:19 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Diorama Supplies Message-ID: <01e201c09fe2$9c6d2dc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Dale! > Indeed these are the ones I was thinking of! They say memory is one of the > first things to go ... It's here: http://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Scalelink_Etched_Brass_Frets_2.html choose! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 04:02:57 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: Diorama Supplies Message-ID: <000701c09fe3$b753f820$3637b8a1@darcy> I thank you Sir! Dale > Dale! > > Indeed these are the ones I was thinking of! They say memory is one of the > > first things to go ... > > It's here: > http://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Scalelink_Etched_Brass_Frets_2.html > > choose! > D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:08:04 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: What I build Message-ID: <025d01c09fe4$6403bba0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Jim! I wasn't covering you this time, Jim, since I asked for scans to Matt as well and seems like we put Matt out of situation or something. OK, next time I'll scan a model I'll snap some struts as well and I'll feel a bit better about it. D. last sat. I bought the FSM special with pictures of Matt's and Brent's models in it. Conga-rats, guys! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Landon To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: RE: What I build > Diego said: <> > > Thanks Diego for trying to cover for me, but it wasn't Diego folks, it was > me. > > Jim L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:08:49 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Diorama Supplies Message-ID: <026301c09fe4$7edac400$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> You're welcome, cher ami! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Beamish To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:07 AM Subject: Re: Diorama Supplies > I thank you Sir! > Dale > > > > Dale! > > > Indeed these are the ones I was thinking of! They say memory is one of > the > > > first things to go ... > > > > It's here: > > http://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Scalelink_Etched_Brass_Frets_2.html > > > > choose! > > D. > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:12:10 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Handling problems Message-ID: <3A9A3A0A.76FA8823@helsinki.fi> Nigel, To what has already been said, I would like to add that Humbrol varnishes (the ones that come in small glass bottles) are notoriously "soft" even after many days of drying. Otherwise, I would also like to emphasise a good washing of the kit prior to painting. Jan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:14:17 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: What I build Message-ID: Yes, I was looking at FSM over at a friends the other day, and saw a couple of lovely OT models in the gallery, it was nice to be able to say "Hey I know those guys". /Neil > D. > last sat. I bought the FSM special with pictures of Matt's and Brent's > models in it. Conga-rats, guys! > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:19:59 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: What I build Message-ID: <028801c09fe6$0e4b8a60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I know the feeling... then the people stare at you in a funny way... and change the subject of the conversation, while you sink your head into the magazine pages... :-) D. Listland is a small chunk of Valhalla ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:18 AM Subject: RE: What I build > Yes, I was looking at FSM over at a friends the other day, and saw a > couple of lovely OT models in the gallery, it was nice to be able > to say "Hey I know those guys". > /Neil > > > > > D. > > last sat. I bought the FSM special with pictures of Matt's and Brent's > > models in it. Conga-rats, guys! > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:54:04 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Handling problems Message-ID: Isn't this just a matter of the thinner one is using? I made best experiences with synthetic thinner and thin coats which I blow dry already with the air of the airbrush. Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > Nigel, > > To what has already been said, I would like to add that Humbrol > varnishes (the ones that come in small glass bottles) are notoriously > "soft" even after many days of drying. Otherwise, I would also like to > emphasise a good washing of the kit prior to painting. > > Jan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:15:19 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "ww1 list" Subject: Back to the Albatros Message-ID: <035701c09fed$c96244e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi On the lower port wing of the Albatros D.II there's a panel molded, wich must be a step surface for the pilot. Do you know wich colour should be? Aluminium? Plywood? TIA D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:53:26 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Handling problems Message-ID: <3A9A51C6.565D9941@helsinki.fi> Sure, that's also a possibility, and a very likely one. Funny thing is that I haven't noticed similar sort of thing with any other Humbrol product after using them since early seventies. What kind synthetic thinner you use? Enquiring minds etc. Jan > > Isn't this just a matter of the thinner one is using? I made best > experiences with synthetic thinner and thin coats which I blow dry already > with the air of the airbrush. > > Gaston Graf > (ggraf@vo.lu) > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > > Nigel, > > > > To what has already been said, I would like to add that Humbrol > > varnishes (the ones that come in small glass bottles) are notoriously > > "soft" even after many days of drying. Otherwise, I would also like to > > emphasise a good washing of the kit prior to painting. > > > > Jan -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 07:58:23 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Without a net.... Message-ID: <200102261258.HAA00834@pease1.sr.unh.edu> List, I've been down with the Flu since Thursday with no relief in sight. Please excuse my abscence. Allan - List administrator =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:02:36 -0800 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Without a net.... Message-ID: <3A9B5F1C.A22AF631@tac.com.au> Allan Wright wrote: > > List, > > I've been down with the Flu since Thursday with no relief in sight. > Please excuse my abscence. Get well soon Allan Shane & Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:23:35 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: O1 Tummelisa Message-ID: There is a paper kit to 1/50 by Bj�rn Karlstr�m, I'm not sure if it's still available. No kit to 1/48 that I know of. Someone asked about the Karlstr�m Tummelisa drawing in 1/72, I asked a friend, and he says, and as far as I know myself, they are quite good. This isn't always so with Karlstr�m drawings, they vary from excellent to not so good. You should always try and get the latest ones. In the books of Swedish drawings, there were people in IPMS-Sweden who helped check the later books, but the early ones weren't checked. If you take into account his enormous production, then he's amazingly good. If he errs in any direction it is to make a/c look nicer than in reality, which is really rather kind of him! /Neil Witold wrote: Wow, what a nice plane. another to my long wishlist. Is there any kit of it 1/48 - I doubt but who knows... Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:36:05 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: O1 Tummelisa Message-ID: <3A9A5BC5.8F253111@bg.am.lodz.pl> Crawford Neil napisa�(a): > > There is a paper kit to 1/50 by Bj�rn Karlstr�m, I'm not > sure if it's still available. No kit to 1/48 that I know of. Thanks Neil. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:14:30 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Modeling Penance/absolved Message-ID: SNIP >In Australia the word is "beer" > >Except in my state where we allow for people who've had so much to drink >that spelling has become impossible and call beer "XXXX" > >Shane > >(Unashamed Fourex drinker - having one now while I read the emails and work >up courage enough to attack battleship - Konig - details) > > >Here here. Back in My London days my mates and I wouldn't give a Four X for anything else (least of all Fosters). Pity we can't buy the stuff here in Canada - at least in my part. Sad ... I can buy a Roland CII and an Ilya Muromets (see this is OT) but can't buy XXXX. . .strange world. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:00:57 +0800 From: "Carol & David Solosy" To: "WW1 List" Subject: As good as yellow vs. green was: Pfalz Review on PMMS Message-ID: Hans, Volker With respect, I cannot agree with your interpretation of the Degelow Pfalz. Hans wrote: > It's dark, it's dark, it's dark! I just have a scan to judge from, but there > is no difference between fuselage and underside of top wing. Maybe it was > painted mocca brown over all, but it is too dark for 'Silbergrau'. Sorry, old buddy but you must be looking at a different photo to the one I have seen. In the photo from the Degelow/Kilduff book there is a fair bit of reflection in the surface colour of the underside of the top wing as the Pfalz lays on its back. It looks as silbergrau as anything I've seen. And it most definitely contrasts sharply with the black fuselage. It's light, it's light, it's light! (Sound like a couple of kids having a very intellectual argument, don't we?) ;-) > The struts do have the same colour as the wheel covering! Again - not in the photo I'm looking at. The wheel covers are appreciably darker than the struts. Volker adds: > PROOF of the colour seems impossible. I'll drink to that! Volker, again writes: >Greg van Wyngarden write in C&C (US) vol >22/1: "The wings and interplane struts are illustrated as silbergrau. >However, they may have been black also; the angle and the heavy shadow in >the photograph make it difficult to determine. The undersides of the top >wing almost seem to be overpainted in a glossy colour" "Almost", "difficult to determine", "seem" - all very inconclusive to me. Why couldn't glossy be silbergrau? I admit that I have not seen the photo in C&C and it may well change my mind. For now, however, I am not convinced that the wings were not silbergrau and until a better photo turns up I'll remain unconvinced. Anyway, I have a scan of the photo from the Kilduff/Degelow book. If anyone wants me to email it to them, let me know. It's a jpeg of about 180kb. This is both the fun and the frustration of WW1 modelling. My two centimes worth. David S ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:36:18 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: ot - The Don is dead Message-ID: >>Very off topic,....(snip dead cricketer) > >Very off colour.... >"Can you help me, Doctor, I seem to have a cricket ball stuck up my @r$e" >"How's that?" >"Don't you start." > >Sandy - well its Monday morning and it snowing a blizzard. Snert (just napalmed the keyboard with coffee) Definitely ROTFLMAO mate. Way before my time (hey In my time Alan Knott was wicket keeper for Kent and England and Geoff Boycott still had hair!) that being said suffice to say they don't make 'em like Don any more. Shane, hoist a fourex or five in his honour. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:12:52 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: ot - The Don is dead Message-ID: I think I understood this, I laughed anyway just in case. For the cricket-challenged, I can tell you that "How's that?" is what the wicket-keeper says when the batsman has just been bowled out. If that is any help? /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson [mailto:mvj@thetelegram.com] > Sent: den 26 februari 2001 15:06 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: ot - The Don is dead > > > >>Very off topic,....(snip dead cricketer) > > > >Very off colour.... > >"Can you help me, Doctor, I seem to have a cricket ball > stuck up my @r$e" > >"How's that?" > >"Don't you start." > > > >Sandy - well its Monday morning and it snowing a blizzard. > > Snert (just napalmed the keyboard with coffee) > > Definitely ROTFLMAO mate. > > Way before my time (hey In my time Alan Knott was wicket > keeper for Kent > and England and Geoff Boycott still had hair!) > that being said suffice to say they don't make 'em like Don any more. > Shane, hoist a fourex or five in his honour. > MVJ > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:14:17 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Handling problems Message-ID: <200102260914_MC2-C6E4-4618@compuserve.com> Nigel, I do the Michael Jackson look. I wear one cotton glove. I hold the model with the gloved hand and use the other to work. I can't work with gloves on both hands. I too get the sticky model feeling. I think it's the oil in my fingers. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 2/1/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:18:18 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: ot - The Don is dead Message-ID: >From: Crawford Neil > >I think I understood this, I laughed anyway just in case. >For the cricket-challenged, I can tell you that "How's that?" >is what the wicket-keeper says when the batsman has just been bowled >out. >If that is any help? Not really, because it's wrong:) Didn't they let you play any sports at that Rudolph Steiner academy? "How's that" or "How was that?" is a formal appeal that must be made by the bowling side to the umpire to give a batsman as "out". Anyone on the bowling side can shout it. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:27:34 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: ot - The Don is dead Message-ID: Twice a year they let us out to play football against another bl***y Rudolf Steiner outfit. I was the goalkeeper, which says a lot about the quality of our team, and even more about the others, we always won. We didn't play cricket, not arty enough! /Neil > Not really, because it's wrong:) Didn't they let you play > any sports at > that Rudolph Steiner academy? > > "How's that" or "How was that?" is a formal appeal that must > be made by the > bowling side to the umpire to give a batsman as "out". Anyone on the > bowling side can shout it. > > > Michael > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:28:34 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: More on topic models coming! Message-ID: <200102261428.GAA01338@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Thanks to a head's up from Michael Kendix, I went and looked at what NKR has as a "Due Soon" from NKR. Not only some really awesome VVS models, but a SPAD A.2/A.4 *and* a Nieuport IV. Sweet! However, be prepared for work. A-Models tend to be a little on the thick side since they're short run. And yes, Chris, they have improved their molding since the UTI-4. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:31:40 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Handley-Page O/400 References Message-ID: <2ED8A4DC.46F34396.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Wow! Thanks again, Brad. It will take me some time to digest these. Is B.E. Ketley's book, Military Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918, a bibliograpy of reference materials for WWI aircraft? If so, seems it would be a valuable addition to anyone's reference library and I will be looking for a copy. Mike K. Brad wrote: > > Military Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918 by B.E. Ketley list the following: > > Air Enthusiast Vol. 5 #2 �(plan + interior) > Aircraft Illustrated Monthly, March 1969 > Air Historian #2 > Reconaissance & Bomber Aircraft 1914 - 1918, �Harleyford > Cross & Cockade Vol. 3 #3 > Flying Review Monthly Vol. 23 #5 > Handley Page Aircraft Since 1907, �Putnam > Illustrated Encyclopaedia of Aircraft No. 103 & No. 137 > Janes 1919 > Planes (later known as Wingspan) Vol. 1 #4 > RAF Yearbook 1977 > Aeroplanes of the RFC, �J.M. Bruce > Military Aircraft of WW1, �Giorgio Apostolo, 1974 �(aka: Color Profiles Of > World War 1 Combat Planes, Crescent Books) > WW1 Aero #108 > > Written accounts include: 'Green Balls' by Paul Bewsher and 'The Big Bombers > of WW1- A Canadians Journal' by Lieut. Hugh B. Monaghan RFC. > > Scale Models International did a build article on the Airfix kit in their > May 1984 issue. > > Hope these help __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3128 **********************