WWI Digest 3126 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Today in history - SVAs long range mission by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 2) RE: Is There Anybody Out There? by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 3) Re: Is There Anybody Out There? by "Matt Bittner" 4) RE: All OT or some ot ?? by "Neil Crawford" 5) Re: SP Decals by Marc Flake 6) Re: Is There Anybody Out There? by Ernest Thomas 7) ot - The Don is dead :-( by Shane Weier 8) RE: Is There Anybody Out There? by Todd Hayes 9) Re: Is There Anybody Out There? by Todd Hayes 10) Re: SP Decals by Todd Hayes 11) RE: ot - The Don is dead :-( by "Gaston Graf" 12) RE: ot - The Don is dead :-( by Shane Weier 13) RE: ot - The Don is dead :-( by "Gaston Graf" 14) Handling problems by "Nigel Rayner" 15) Re: SP Decals by Sixmilfigs@cs.com 16) Re: ot - The Don is dead :-( by "Michael Kendix" 17) RE: ot - The Don is dead :-( by Shane Weier 18) Paint Stripper by "Dale Beamish" 19) Handley-Page O/400 References by RadspadMike@netscape.net 20) RE: Handley-Page O/400 References by Shane Weier 21) ot Airforce infromation by roguerpj 22) Re: Handley-Page O/400 References by "Brad & Merville" 23) Re: Handley-Page O/400 References by roguerpj 24) Re: Handley-Page O/400 References by KarrArt@aol.com 25) Re: Handley-Page O/400 References by RadspadMike@netscape.net 26) Re: Handley-Page O/400 References by RadspadMike@netscape.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:44:49 EST From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Today in history - SVAs long range mission Message-ID: <3e.7e8c728.27cac8c1@aol.com> Was this mission unusual for its distance? In what ways did Italian air units pioneer military aviation and aviation in general? I've grown up knowing about Sopwiths and Fokkers and SPADs but I remain pretty ignorant of Italy's air history. ~Steve di Giacomo In a message dated 2/21/1 4:08:55 PM, alberto.casirati@inwind.it writes: << Today in history - 21st February Just to remember that on the 21st of February, 1918, SVA-5s of the 1a Sezione Autonoma SVA, based at Sovizzo, flew non-stop to Innsbruck, to bomb railway plants. They all returned safely to base, after a 3 hrs flight. One of the many long range missions carried out by SVA crews. Alberto Casirati >> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:51:28 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: Subject: RE: Is There Anybody Out There? Message-ID: Yep--just doing $#@!*% algebra homework on the computer. Paul -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Todd Hayes Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 2:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Is There Anybody Out There? Is There Anybody Out There? I know, I know. Sunday afternoon. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:13:24 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Is There Anybody Out There? Message-ID: <200102252113.NAA18573@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:24:28 -0500 (EST), Todd Hayes wrote: > Is There Anybody Out There? I know, I know. Sunday > afternoon. Yes, but just putting the top wing on the HD.3, so I'm ignoring everything. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:17:43 +0100 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: RE: All OT or some ot ?? Message-ID: <000501c09f70$6551ff40$eeb697d4@default> Sorry Jim, I couldn't resist. Of course everyone knows that quality is more important than quantity, so you do count:-) /Neil Neil said <> I saw that! Maybe it would be 2 instead of 1.5 if I didn't spend half my time reading this list! ;-) I have built other models, I just didn't want to bore you all with it. Just the other day we found an old photo of me ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:32:58 -0600 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SP Decals Message-ID: <3A997A0A.31D1@airmail.net> Anybody know what SPAD insignia is on the SP Decals? Enquiring minds wnat to know. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:53:41 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Is There Anybody Out There? Message-ID: <3A997EE5.C612913C@bellsouth.net> Paul Schwartzkopf wrote: > > Yep--just doing $#@!*% algebra homework on the computer. At least one of us is. E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:03:09 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: ot - The Don is dead :-( Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748CAF@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Hi all, Very off topic, but I thought I 'd pass on the news to those fans on the list who might not yet know. They'll understand why Australia is in mourning for the death of Don Bradman yesterday. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:10:26 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Is There Anybody Out There? Message-ID: <20010225221026.25464.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> Yuk! --- Paul Schwartzkopf wrote: > Yep--just doing $#@!*% algebra homework on the > computer. > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org > [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Todd > Hayes > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 2:25 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Is There Anybody Out There? > > > Is There Anybody Out There? I know, I know. Sunday > afternoon. > > Todd > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:11:20 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Is There Anybody Out There? Message-ID: <20010225221120.25507.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> Oh, touchy work. --- Matt Bittner wrote: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:24:28 -0500 (EST), Todd Hayes > wrote: > > > Is There Anybody Out There? I know, I know. > Sunday > > afternoon. > > Yes, but just putting the top wing on the HD.3, so > I'm ignoring > everything. ;-) > > > Matt Bittner > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:12:54 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SP Decals Message-ID: <20010225221254.94902.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> The ads for them don't even show which nationality. --- Marc Flake wrote: > Anybody know what SPAD insignia is on the SP Decals? > Enquiring minds > wnat to know. > > Marc __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:14:33 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: ot - The Don is dead :-( Message-ID: Shane, please excuse my ignorance, but who was Don Bradman? Gaston > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Shane > Weier > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 11:08 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: ot - The Don is dead :-( > > > Hi all, > > Very off topic, but I thought I 'd pass on the news to those fans on the > list who might not yet know. They'll understand why Australia is in > mourning for the death of Don Bradman yesterday. > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > ********************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:47:20 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: ot - The Don is dead :-( Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748CB4@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Gaston, > please excuse my ignorance, but who was Don Bradman? Please excuse me continuing an ot thread ..... Sir Donald Bradman was cricketer, and quite possibly the greatest sportsman of the 20th century. Bradman was a batsman who was so good that his test match average of 99.96 is unapproached by any other player who ever played the game - for example the next best 10 batsmen all average under 60. A "Test" match is an official international between countries) Bradman was at his peak during the Depression, then led the 1948 Australian team to England - so his career lost 6 years during WW2 and one can only speculate what his figures might otherwise have been. Sports International - the US magazine - explains his batting average by saying "Imagine a basball player with a 0.996 average...." Quite apart from cricket he was a symbol of strength and unity during the depression, a sporting icon, an exemplar of good sportsmanship and modesty and a rather shy and private man. Named as "Australian of the Century" by all and sundry during the "Millenium" bash, we'll all miss him Shane (my middle name is Donald - and yes, I'm named after him, as was my Dad) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 00:00:06 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: ot - The Don is dead :-( Message-ID: Shane, ot or not, I love it to talk with you people on this list in general. Thanks a lot for the additional info. Now I know why I never heard about the Don: 1st - I did not care about sports in general since Ayrton Senna died 2nd - I don't know much about Australia 3rd - I don't receive any news here about Australia except but for the very important headlines but because I don't care about TV I mostly miss the news anyway. Why should I care? I got this puter, and there is this list... sincerely Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Shane > Weier > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 11:53 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: ot - The Don is dead :-( > > > Gaston, > > > please excuse my ignorance, but who was Don Bradman? > > Please excuse me continuing an ot thread ..... > > Sir Donald Bradman was cricketer, and quite possibly the greatest > sportsman > of the 20th century. Bradman was a batsman who was so good that his test > match average of 99.96 is unapproached by any other player who ever played > the game - for example the next best 10 batsmen all average under 60. > > A "Test" match is an official international between countries) > > Bradman was at his peak during the Depression, then led the 1948 > Australian > team to England - so his career lost 6 years during WW2 and one can only > speculate what his figures might otherwise have been. > > Sports International - the US magazine - explains his batting average by > saying "Imagine a basball player with a 0.996 average...." > > Quite apart from cricket he was a symbol of strength and unity during the > depression, a sporting icon, an exemplar of good sportsmanship and modesty > and a rather shy and private man. Named as "Australian of the Century" by > all and sundry during the "Millenium" bash, we'll all miss him > > Shane > > (my middle name is Donald - and yes, I'm named after him, as was my Dad) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > ********************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:36:20 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Handling problems Message-ID: <000001c09f83$c1f401e0$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Hi all, Late Sunday night here and I'd like to solicit some advice. Just finishing up my Pegasus BE2e (just about looks like one of them), and I've encountered a problem that I've had with all my builds so far. This is a problem with paint and varnish rubbing off or getting fingerprints in. It seems that when I handle the models in the final stages of build, the varnish and paint feel slightly tacky if I hold the model for a few minutes. The model seems fine when I pick it up, but after holding it for a few minutes (say to do some rigging), my fingers are noticably "stuck" to the painted/varnished parts. This hasn't been a big problem so far, but has been particularly bad with the BE2e, as the rigging is so complicated (bloody British planes!) I've had to pick the model up a lot in the later build stages. I have deposited a couple of nice fingerprints on the nose area and have actually removed some of the topcoat from the top wing. The model is finished in white enamel undercoat, olive drab enamel, Misterkit custom mix PC10, Future, then two coats of Humbrol satin varnish. Anyone experience similar problems or got any thoughts/advice? I tried wearing latex gloves when handling the model, but the latex still seemed to stick just like my fingers. Thanks, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:03:25 EST From: Sixmilfigs@cs.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SP Decals Message-ID: The Spads in question are all Polish, from the Russo-Polish War. Jadar has them listed as - Spad S. VII, Lwów 1919, pilot M. Garsztka; - Spad S. VII, Wyzsza Szkola Pilotów, Grudziadz; - Spad S. VII, Poznan-LaWICA, pilot L. Rayski; - Spad S. XIII, 3 Pulk Lotniczy, Poznan; - Spad S. XIII, 1 Pulk Lotniczy, Warszawa; - Spad S. XIII, 4 Pulk Lotniczy, Torun; If you want to still see a pic, http://www.jadar.com.pl/html/firmy/spdecal/72004.htm They are listed as OOP. Shawn Kennedy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 00:30:24 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: ot - The Don is dead :-( Message-ID: Shane: I didn't realize that hehad been still living; he must have been quite old. Didn't he play in the 1930s with the bodyline stuff and all that? Harold Larwood's team was playing for England. Michael >From: Shane Weier >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: ot - The Don is dead :-( >Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 17:07:53 -0500 (EST) > >Hi all, > >Very off topic, but I thought I 'd pass on the news to those fans on the >list who might not yet know. They'll understand why Australia is in >mourning for the death of Don Bradman yesterday. > >Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >********************************************************************** >The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is >intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or >copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to >forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the >MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > >e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au >phone: Australia 1800500646 >********************************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:42:26 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: ot - The Don is dead :-( Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748CB7@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Michael, > I didn't realize that hehad been still living; he must have > been quite old. 92. His wife died about a year ago and after that he went downhill fast. > Didn't he play in the 1930s with the bodyline stuff and all > that? Harold Larwood's team was playing for England. Jardine was captain of England, though of course Larwood was one of the bodyline bowlers. That was 1933 IIRC. For the non-cognoscenti, unlike in baseball, the cricket batsmans body is allowed as a target for the bowler (pitcher). It was widely considered bad sportsmanship though to bowl *every* ball with intent to kill or maim, and since 1933 when England tried to hamstring Bradman by bowling entirely at his body, it's also been prevented by the rules. Incidentally, I got his average wrong - every cricket fan knows it was 99.94 Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:03:34 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Paint Stripper Message-ID: <003501c09f90$262156c0$072cb8a1@darcy> What are the best methods of removing paint from white metal parts? Dale ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:20:28 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Handley-Page O/400 References Message-ID: <51C3DA84.1E2E0C1E.3E0364A1@netscape.net> I'm drawing a blank on reference materials, drawings, etc. for the Handley-Page O/400. I've identified a book on the story of a young pilot in the 207 Squadron, "The Black Cat Squadron-Night Bombing in World War 1". While probably interesting, I doubt it will help much in building a model. Please don't tell me to look in J.M. Bruce's "British Aeroplanes, 1914-18" as I check it out every time I'm on Abebooks, prices range from $135 to $200 US. Think they will ever reprint it? TIA, Mike K. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:24:40 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Handley-Page O/400 References Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748CB8@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Mike, > I've identified a book on the > story of a young pilot in the 207 Squadron, "The Black Cat > Squadron-Night Bombing in World War 1". While probably > interesting, I doubt it will help much in building a model. True on both accounts. I found the writing style distracting, but worth the $$$ for the background feel. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:35:58 -0600 From: roguerpj To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: ot Airforce infromation Message-ID: <6gcj9t0eqa5uaubrbhhgtrm8ncttt7nqfv@4ax.com> Hi, I know this is the wrong war but I do know we have Australian modelers on the list and I need some information. I want to build a plane from that other world war and I would like to do an Australian bird. Can some one point me to a location that would have information on planes that were used by Australia. My preference has always been navy but I am in the dark here. What I don't want to do is do the same old US paint job. You can email me off list at roguerpj@black-hole.com TIA rob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:33:11 -0500 From: "Brad & Merville" To: Subject: Re: Handley-Page O/400 References Message-ID: <005201c09f94$15c9d960$8c885ad1@default> This sounds like a job for 'Handley Page Bombers Of The First World War' by Chaz Bowyer, published 1992 by Aston Publications Ltd. Bourne End House, Harvest Hill, Bourne End, Bucks, SL8 5JJ ISBN 0 946627 68 1 Drawings by Colin Owers. Brad -----Original Message----- From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, February 25, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: Handley-Page O/400 References >I'm drawing a blank on reference materials, drawings, etc. for the Handley-Page O/400. I've identified a book on the story of a young pilot in the 207 Squadron, "The Black Cat Squadron-Night Bombing in World War 1". While probably interesting, I doubt it will help much in building a model. > >Please don't tell me to look in J.M. Bruce's "British Aeroplanes, 1914-18" as I check it out every time I'm on Abebooks, prices range from $135 to $200 US. Think they will ever reprint it? > >TIA, >Mike K. >__________________________________________________________________ >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:42:40 -0600 From: roguerpj To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Handley-Page O/400 References Message-ID: Mike, Try you local Library. Mine has the British one as well as others. If they don't have it there is interlibrary loan. The best part it would be cheeper that buying it rob On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:24:02 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >I'm drawing a blank on reference materials, drawings, etc. for the Handley-Page O/400. I've identified a book on the story of a young pilot in the 207 Squadron, "The Black Cat Squadron-Night Bombing in World War 1". While probably interesting, I doubt it will help much in building a model. > >Please don't tell me to look in J.M. Bruce's "British Aeroplanes, 1914-18" as I check it out every time I'm on Abebooks, prices range from $135 to $200 US. Think they will ever reprint it? > >TIA, >Mike K. >__________________________________________________________________ >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:49:17 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Handley-Page O/400 References Message-ID: <84.11e414df.27cb101d@aol.com> In a message dated 2/25/01 5:22:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, RadspadMike@netscape.net writes: << I'm drawing a blank on reference materials, drawings, etc. for the Handley-Page O/400. I've identified a book on the story of a young pilot in the 207 Squadron, "The Black Cat Squadron-Night Bombing in World War 1". While probably interesting, I doubt it will help much in building a model. Please don't tell me to look in J.M. Bruce's "British Aeroplanes, 1914-18" as I check it out every time I'm on Abebooks, prices range from $135 to $200 US. Think they will ever reprint it? TIA, Mike K.>> Hang on for a few days. If any of you folks remember my 0/400 scratchbuilt article that was in Internet Modeler some time ago..... well- we're preparing a revised version to go up on my site in the next few days. It doesn't have a complete bibliography, but it has quite few sources listed. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:13:00 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Handley-Page O/400 References Message-ID: <342E698C.0D6E2286.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Thanks. Would appreciate a "heads up" when the revision is posted. Mike K. RK wrote: > Hang on for a few days. If any of you folks remember my 0/400 scratchbuilt > article that was in Internet Modeler some time ago..... well- we're preparing > a revised version to go up on my site in the next few days. It doesn't have a > complete bibliography, but it has quite few sources listed. > RK >   > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:10:19 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Handley-Page O/400 References Message-ID: <1AAFF445.553ADC82.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Thanks much, Brad. I was able to locate and order a copy from a bookseller in Wales. I hope it's still in stock. Mike K. Brad wrote: > >    This sounds like a job for 'Handley Page Bombers Of The First World War' > by Chaz Bowyer, published 1992 by Aston Publications Ltd.  Bourne End House, > Harvest Hill, Bourne End, Bucks, SL8 5JJ   ISBN  0 946627 68 1 >    Drawings by Colin Owers. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3126 **********************