WWI Digest 3115 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: BOOKLETS FS by "dfernet0" 2) OOOopss RE: BOOKLETS FS by "dfernet0" 3) New images by "Matt Bittner" 4) Re: New images by "DAVID BURKE" 5) Re: Miscellanious Questions by "DAVID BURKE" 6) Need spare albatros decal by "Sanjeev Hirve" 7) Re: Americals Help by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 8) Jadar Models? by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 9) Re: Giant Cookup--dead or perchance just asleep. by David Fleming 10) Re: Giants Cookup by David Fleming 11) All OT or some ot ?? by David Fleming 12) Re: Pfalz Review on PMMS by "Robert Baumgartner" 13) Re: Pegasus British Serial Numbers Decals by "Lance Krieg" 14) Re: Giants Cookup by "Lance Krieg" 15) OT in SAM by David Fleming 16) Re: Diorama Supplies by RadspadMike@netscape.net 17) Re: Diorama Supplies by RadspadMike@netscape.net 18) aaAs good as yellow vs. green was: Pfalz Review on PMMS by Volker Haeusler 19) Re: All OT or some ot ?? by "Michael Kendix" 20) RE: Pegasus British Serial Numbers Decals by Volker Haeusler 21) Re: Miscellanious Questions by "Evan Nits" 22) Re: Giants Cookup by Karen Rychlewski 23) Re: All OT or some ot ?? by "Evan Nits" 24) Orlando Area Hobby Shops by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 25) RE: All OT or some ot ?? by Volker Haeusler 26) Re: Miscellanious Questions by "Lance Krieg" 27) Re: Jadar Models? by RadspadMike@netscape.net 28) Re: All OT or some ot ?? by Karen Rychlewski 29) Re: Modeling Penance by "Hans Trauner" 30) Re: Giants Cookup by RadspadMike@netscape.net 31) Re: Giants Cookup by RadspadMike@netscape.net 32) Re: Miscellanious Questions by Karen Rychlewski ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:42:00 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: BOOKLETS FS Message-ID: <033a01c09cd5$3b588d00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Robert! > WINDSOCK DATAFILE #32 SPAD 13C.1 > above at $10. postpaid Is it already gone? D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:46:00 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: OOOopss RE: BOOKLETS FS Message-ID: <034601c09cd5$ca68b240$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Sorry, it was supposed to go off list D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:47:37 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: New images Message-ID: <3A94141400052D11@mail01.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail01.san.yahoo.com) I just uploaded some in-progress shots of Lance Krieg's stunning Felixstowe. Awesome! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:11:09 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: New images Message-ID: <004001c09ce1$b568e8e0$b8121a3f@oemcomputer> > I just uploaded some in-progress shots of Lance Krieg's stunning > Felixstowe. Awesome! > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) > Now if only it can stay near the front on the table at the Nats! Lance, again my jaw is bruised from hitting the floor! DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:08:20 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Miscellanious Questions Message-ID: <003f01c09ce1$b4764b80$b8121a3f@oemcomputer> Hey Evan, As to your Fokker D.VII question: the earliest Fokker D.VIIs were finished in standard Fokker streaking similar to the Dr.1. As the switch was made to the lozenge fabric covering, many pilots had their mounts given custom paint jobs. I saw that Goering has already been mentioned, but guys like Berthold painted much, if not all, of his plane blue and red. Some aircraft had very little if any loz showing after this decoration. Of course, the weight penalty of all of that paint (the Fokker D.VII is a fairly large airplane!) made this a practice of questionable benifit! DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:25:01 -0500 From: "Sanjeev Hirve" To: Subject: Need spare albatros decal Message-ID: <040c01c09ce3$9fb74030$0800010a@cyberelan.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0409_01C09CB9.B67AD540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I messed up some of the decal for my eduard 1/48 albatros Dr.1. I need some 5-colour bottom lozenge decal from the eduard kit. I guess any albatros model from eduard would have the same pattern. A piece about 1 inch x wing-chord (1-inch) should be more than = sufficient. If you can spare some, please contact me directly at = shirve@cyberelan.com thanks in advance SSH ------=_NextPart_000_0409_01C09CB9.B67AD540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0409_01C09CB9.B67AD540-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:28:32 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Americals Help Message-ID: As Shane points out, >>and given that I've been using his lozenge continuously for > many years during which every other manufacturer has come and gone or just > come-lately, I don't believe *I* could fairly criticise his business model.<<, I think that other decal manufacturer's could take a lesson from Americal/Gryphon: provide quality, accurate decals at a reasonable price with excellent service, and you will have a successful business. I have only discovered Americal in the last 2 years, but find myself using their decals almost exclusively for my OT kits. I purchased a bunch of decal sheets(among other items) from a modeler relocating overseas and most were Americal and they helped spur me into getting back to WWI building. They have to be, IMHO, the best researched decals available and they are OT!!!!! Just a very satisfied customer. Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:00:58 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Jadar Models? Message-ID: Hi Folks, Has anyone ever looked at Jadar Models site or done business with them? A while back, I placed an order for some ot "golden age" Japanese planes from Choroszy Modelbud. While they don't seem to carry HR, Spin or any of the other major OT resin manufacturers, their prices on Eduard, Flashback and others are very, very good. An example is the Flasback W-29 in 1/48 is only $16(US). Their shipping is no more than anywhere else. I had no problems with this first order and they will do discounts on bulk orders. I was wondering if anyone has tried them, other than myself. Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:37:59 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Giant Cookup--dead or perchance just asleep. Message-ID: <3A953257.48390712@dial.pipex.com> "aa8." wrote: > Dear List > Today I visited Jenning's model shop in Enfield (sort of North London). > Where is this one ? I hadn't heard of it before? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:43:31 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Giants Cookup Message-ID: <3A9533A3.D32A9200@dial.pipex.com> Ok group, here's a proposal. We have an ongoing Giants project, rather than a Cookup, which enables members to drop in and out of the project as time permits. The project will just be about modelling the Giants, and will not cover the level of background the Cookups have. In effect, it will just be a place to showcase and encourage modelling the larger WW1 subjects. We can put 'in progress' shots of stuff being built. Now, here comes the part I may regret !! I'd be prepared to have a go at setting up and maintaining the site. I've been playing with web design, and would give it a go if the list are willing !! Whatdya think ? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:05:44 +0000 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: All OT or some ot ?? Message-ID: <3A9538D8.818D7BD9@dial.pipex.com> Hi guys'n'gals !! Whilst fondling my newly acquired Tamyia Bf1-0-thingy (If only Tamyia did OTS OT stuff), I got to wondering (as you do) how many list members were OT only modellers, or how many dabble in 'other' areas ? If you do work outside the faith, is this something totally different, or an extension of your OT interest ? For me, I build aircraft & vehicles used by the British, so my Messie will be an RAF one. If this is too ot, forgive me, I've been to the Dentist's !! (Moral - don't eat hard crusty bread !!) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:09:16 -0000 From: "Robert Baumgartner" To: Subject: Re: Pfalz Review on PMMS Message-ID: <000d01c09d2c$dd9dc4c0$ae3f86cb@robb> Greetings Hans Thanks for your feedback > While Rob admits to the previous discussion on > >the list about an all-black machine, he thinks the wings are still > >silbergrau due to the picture in his copy of _Germany's Last Knight of > >the Air_. I will speak to the Webmaster at PMMS and see if we can scan the pic of Degelow's Pfalz from my copy of the memoirs. Maybe this edition has a better reproduction of the original photo than others. > It's dark, it's dark, it's dark! I just have a scan to judge from, but there > is no difference between fuselage and underside of top wing. Maybe it was > painted mocca brown over all, but it is too dark for 'Silbergrau'. > The struts do have the same colour as the wheel covering! On my photo, the only strut that is the same *colour* as the wheel covering is the port undercarriage strut ( in shadow )and the one third of the port outer wing strut which is also in shadow. The other two thirds of the port wing strut and whole starboard leg strut contrast superbly against the fuselage and inner starboard wheel cover respectively. In fact the parts in shadow are darker than the fuselage and wheel covers. The undersurface of the top wing is still light despite its angle to the sun. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words, so I'll try to get a scan into the review. > BTW, may I ask for the colour of Voss' cowl........ oops! :-) Ahh....... Depends whether you are looking at a scan or published photo :-) Cheers Rob B PS Thanks David S, Witold and Matt for your kind words ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:10:37 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Pegasus British Serial Numbers Decals Message-ID: Todd asks: "Has anyone here seen these decals? Do you think they're a worthwhile investment?" Anyone building British aircraft will find these extremely valuable, since the set provides the letters, numbers and punctuation in the appropriate sizes and typestyles to build almost any plane, from almost any maker. And if you've ever tried to paint the white outline on the numbers as they appear on a rudder, you will appreciate the provision of decal outlines to simplify this job. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:33 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Giants Cookup Message-ID: Dave suggests: "...an ongoing Giants project..." Since I keep missing the other cookups, I'll have a go, as long as a Felixstowe is considered a "giant". You are welcome to the pics Matt posted earlier, and I'll send you more if you like. LMK Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:28:37 +0000 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: OT in SAM Message-ID: <3A953E34.5ABF1A4B@dial.pipex.com> Scale Aircraft Modelling has a couple of Albatros DIII builds in duplo scale this month, one of which is on the cover. Next month is DV schemes and plans. oh, and they published my letter - another ambition achieved !!:-) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:41:06 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Diorama Supplies Message-ID: <5E92552B.783E4F39.3E0364A1@netscape.net> wwi@wwi-models.org wrote: > > Could anyone suggest some good sources for diorama supplies? > Dale > Dale, Try http://www.woodlandscenics.com Most hobby shops selling model railroad stuff handles this line of products. HTH, Mike K. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:48:21 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Diorama Supplies Message-ID: <44D81AC6.37D7276F.3E0364A1@netscape.net> wwi@wwi-models.org wrote: > > Could anyone suggest some good sources for diorama supplies? > Dale > Dale, Try http://www.woodlandscenics.com Most hobby shops dealing with model railroads carry their product line. HTH, Mike K. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:19:55 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: aaAs good as yellow vs. green was: Pfalz Review on PMMS Message-ID: Rob said: "I will speak to the Webmaster at PMMS and see if we can scan the pic of Degelow's Pfalz from my copy of the memoirs. Maybe this edition has a better reproduction of the original photo than others." "On my photo, the only strut that is the same *colour* as the wheel covering is the port undercarriage strut ( in shadow )and the one third of the port outer wing strut which is also in shadow. The other two thirds of the port wing strut and whole starboard leg strut contrast superbly against the fuselage and inner starboard wheel cover respectively. In fact the parts in shadow are darker than the fuselage and wheel covers. The undersurface of the top wing is still light despite its angle to the sun. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words, so I'll try to get a scan into the review." I think I was the one who started the original discussion - so here is another comment: PROOF of the colour seems impossible. The photo in question was published a number of times, not only in (the English version of) Degelow´s memoirs. Other publications include C&C (I) vol 25 no 2 and C&C (US) vol 22 no 1. The photos shown in these publications are both better (larger, clearer) than the one in the Kilduff/Degelow book. However, none proves FINALLY what the machine looked like. What did Greg van Wyngarden write in C&C (US) vol 22/1: "The wings and interplane struts are illustrated as silbergrau. However, they may have been black also; the angle and the heavy shadow in the photograph make it difficult to determine. The undersides of the top wing almost seem to be overpainted in a glossy colour" etcetc. Add to this the fact that there are some other pictures of Jasta 7 aircraft in late ´17 showing dark (black?) wings (note GvW considered this machine to belong to Jasta 40), you automatically arrive at Hans´conclusion. However, what remains to be answered:As the machine in question was most probably the one crashed by Degelow on March 23, 1918, was it still carrying Iron crosses or already changed to straight Balkenkreuze? Volker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:51:10 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: All OT or some ot ?? Message-ID: >From: David Fleming > >Whilst fondling my newly acquired Tamyia Bf1-0-thingy What you do in private is your own bees' wax . >(If only Tamyia did OTS OT stuff) This will never ever happen. I will state, categorically and absolutely without any doubt whatsoever, that Tamiya will never produce a decent 1/72nd scale Nieuport 17! Are you listening Tamiya-San? >I got to wondering (as you do) how many list members >were OT only modellers, I've found that doing things like ot armour helps develop skills that can be applied to OT aeroplanes such as oil washes, dry brushing and pastels. I say ot armour because I know of only 2, 1/72nd scale injection molded OT armour kit (Mark IV Male & Female). Of course, the amount of weathering for an OT aeroplane is less than that for a military vehicle but you learn how to employ it. BTW, the haggis thing is off. I spoke to my commuting acquaintance at the U.S Customs and he says no sausages and meat products of that sort. When I explained what Haggis was, it was a definite no! Michael WW2 Japanese & Soviet things, all in 1/72nd scale naturally. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:22:08 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Pegasus British Serial Numbers Decals Message-ID: As I intend to use the (older?) Modeldecal serials for my Cookup Jerrard Camel: How do the Blue Rider serials compare to the Modeldecal ones? Volker -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Lance Krieg Sent: 22 February 2001 23:16 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Pegasus British Serial Numbers Decals Todd asks: "Has anyone here seen these decals? Do you think they're a worthwhile investment?" Anyone building British aircraft will find these extremely valuable, since the set provides the letters, numbers and punctuation in the appropriate sizes and typestyles to build almost any plane, from almost any maker. And if you've ever tried to paint the white outline on the numbers as they appear on a rudder, you will appreciate the provision of decal outlines to simplify this job. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:52:02 -0000 From: "Evan Nits" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Miscellanious Questions Message-ID: Hey David, > > As to your Fokker D.VII question: the earliest Fokker D.VIIs were >finished in standard Fokker streaking similar to the Dr.1. So does this mean that the entire aircraft was the streaky colour, including the wings? What colour were the undersides? The reason that I am so curious is due to the fact that I can't get any lozenge decals locally. My hobby shop, CLH, has ordered the things for me, but the supplier says that they are back ordered from the manufacturer and has no idea when they will come in. My first OT kit was the Monogram D.VII and I am at the stage where I want to finish it so I can start my Eduard Albatross D. V. Since I don't have any lozenge available, I have to paint it some other scheme. I like the streaked fabric look, and it sould make for an interesting aircraft. I've never seen one done in this "pattern". Regards, Evan. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:48:37 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Giants Cookup Message-ID: <3A9542E5.D258B6E1@earthlink.net> Count me in, Dave. I'm going to start taking some photos today (see earlier post on this thread), and will Photoshop them over the weekend. LMK off-list about file type/size preferences. And Lance, that Felixstowe is unbelieveable!! I think it was da Vinci who said something like "We are all midgets standing on the shoulders of giants". Karen Lance Krieg wrote: > Dave suggests: > > "...an ongoing Giants project..." > > Since I keep missing the other cookups, I'll have a go, as long as a Felixstowe is considered a "giant". You are welcome to the pics Matt posted earlier, and I'll send you more if you like. > > LMK > > Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:00:12 -0000 From: "Evan Nits" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: All OT or some ot ?? Message-ID: >say ot armour because I know of only 2, 1/72nd scale injection molded OT >armour kit (Mark IV Male & Female). Of course, the amount of A few years back Emhar made a 1/35 Mark IV Male $ Female as I recall. I was going to pick one up, but at the time the Great Patriotic War was my main interest. Regards, Evan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:59:12 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Orlando Area Hobby Shops Message-ID: Hi Folks, I have an upcoming business trip to Orlando. I'll be staying the Swan or the Dolphin hotel and was wondering if there are any shops in the area worth visiting. TIA. Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:33:41 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: All OT or some ot ?? Message-ID: Dave, "Whilst fondling my newly acquired Tamyia Bf1-0-thingy (If only Tamyia did OTS OT stuff), I got to wondering (as you do) how many list members were OT only modellers, or how many dabble in 'other' areas ? If you do work outside the faith, is this something totally different, or an extension of your OT interest ?" while the 1something might be off limits over here, I also build whatever I like - 1/700 ships (I´m into smaller, TRUE scales then- there´s a USS Northamptonstil waiting for final touch up), jets (well, not so many, but I did the YF 22 and 23 last year and started a X 32 and a Sukhoi S 37 Berkut recently), Spanish Civil War ( there´s a Fiat G 50 and a Loire 46 somewhere near the workbench), Luft 46 (I like that Arado E 555), real Goering stuff (Revell He 177) and something truly obscure (Rutan Vojager, I 3, I 4). Then again I admit that I scanned some pictures for some ALPS/OKI decals for the ONE TRUE B 25 "Tondelayo") and the "Horrido" for Wik´s - what was that aircraft named? - just last week. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:06:40 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Miscellanious Questions Message-ID: Evan asks: "So does this mean that the entire aircraft was the streaky colour, including the wings? What colour were the undersides?" The wings of production A/C were finished in lozenge, in both four and five color for early Fokker D.VIIs. Peter Leonard and I both have examples on Allan's site (and probably others, too, but I haven't checked). But as far as a non-lozenge D.VII, it'd have to be one of the specials, or a Hollywood version, ala "Wings". Sorry... order some lozenge from Americal, just to be prepared! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:08:59 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Jadar Models? Message-ID: <4BA94455.5C105352.3E0364A1@netscape.net> wwi@wwi-models.org wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > Has anyone ever looked at Jadar Models site or done business with them?  A > while back, I placed an order for some ot "golden age" Japanese planes from > Choroszy Modelbud. While they don't seem to carry HR, Spin or any of the > other major OT resin manufacturers, their prices on Eduard, Flashback and > others are very, very good.  An example is the Flasback W-29 in 1/48 is > only $16(US).  Their shipping is no more than anywhere else. I had no > problems with this first order and they will do discounts on bulk orders. > I was wondering if anyone has tried them, other than myself. > > Regards, > John > John, I placed a small, first time order with them last year and on November 9, 2000, received an invoice from them. Never received the order but my credit card wasn't charged either. I tried to contact them once thru their site but apparently it was down at the time. I probably should have been more persistent but was already getting most of that sort of thing from VAMP. You are right. Their prices are extremely good. Regards, Mike K. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:07:58 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: All OT or some ot ?? Message-ID: <3A95476D.D9144E60@earthlink.net> There's a few more items available Check out http://www.modelcellar.com/ and the Squadron catalog Karen Evan Nits wrote: > >say ot armour because I know of only 2, 1/72nd scale injection molded OT > >armour kit (Mark IV Male & Female). Of course, the amount of > > A few years back Emhar made a 1/35 Mark IV Male $ Female as I recall. I was > going to pick one up, but at the time the Great Patriotic War was my main > interest. > > Regards, > > Evan > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:14:10 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Modeling Penance Message-ID: <000801c09cf2$df830be0$4aa272d4@custom-pc> >Hans, > >That is exactly the problem. A Must*** or any other 'Second Unpleasantness" aircraft or subject is considered a straying from the straight and narrow of WWI modeling. > >It is a lighthearted teasing because WWI subjects have tended to be scarce while WWII topics tend to have multiple releases and all subtypes covered. Mark and Matt! Thanks! Never thought in that direction, but you are definetely right. I often thought on my visits to the local model club: " Oh, boys! I want to have your sorrows!" But I never dare to say it loud. I don't want to have a discussion about: Who is the REAL modelbuilder? But I found there is also a more serious aspect, and beware! This is a very personal aspect, but maybe some guys on the WWI scene have met those F4/U4/U1-R1-boys also and found them a little bit boring and nitpicking, as I did sometimes. I know, I know, never blame a modelbuilder comrade, but I can't resist. Maybe these P-% and Bf10X/U4-R1-collegues found me somehow arrogant showing my 'I-have-to-scratch-many- parts-myself-and-rigging-is-not-so-complicate-as-it-looks'-models. I often found WWI-model-builders has a more open mind, are used to use their own head, make their own thoughts and are normally not fixated to their theme. Take a look at Karen's bio! Only a broad interest can lead you to learn things and accepts other opinions. Uuuf...hard stuff, and it stretched my english near to the end! Hans ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:13:58 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Giants Cookup Message-ID: <7B01D4FD.322667A3.3E0364A1@netscape.net> wwi@wwi-models.org wrote: > > > Ok group, here's a proposal. > > We have an ongoing Giants project, rather than a Cookup, which enables members > to drop in and out of the project as time permits. > > The project will just be about modelling the Giants, and will not cover the > level of background the Cookups have. In effect, it will just be a place to > showcase and encourage modelling the larger WW1 subjects. We can put 'in > progress' shots of stuff being built. > > Now, here comes the part I may regret !! I'd be prepared to have a go at > setting up and maintaining the site. I've been playing with web design, and > would give it a go if the list are willing !! > > Whatdya think ? > > Dave Sounds great, Dave. Everyone loves a volunteer. I'm sure you will regret it but won't publicly admit it. Thanks for the offer. Mike K. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:17:18 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Giants Cookup Message-ID: <0F8BD791.27AA78A7.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Sounds great, Dave. Everyone loves a volunteer. I am sure you will regret it but will not publicly say so. Thanks for the offer. Mike K. wwi@wwi-models.org wrote: > > > Ok group, here's a proposal. > > We have an ongoing Giants project, rather than a Cookup, which enables members > to drop in and out of the project as time permits. > > The project will just be about modelling the Giants, and will not cover the > level of background the Cookups have. In effect, it will just be a place to > showcase and encourage modelling the larger WW1 subjects. We can put 'in > progress' shots of stuff being built. > > Now, here comes the part I may regret !! I'd be prepared to have a go at > setting up and maintaining the site. I've been playing with web design, and > would give it a go if the list are willing !! > > Whatdya think ? > > Dave > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:15:58 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Miscellanious Questions Message-ID: <3A95494D.FB22DEF8@earthlink.net> Evan Take a look at Bob Pearson's site for starters http://members.nbci.com/Sopwith_5F1/ Karen Evan Nits wrote: > Hey David, > > > > As to your Fokker D.VII question: the earliest Fokker D.VIIs were > >finished in standard Fokker streaking similar to the Dr.1. > > So does this mean that the entire aircraft was the streaky colour, including > the wings? What colour were the undersides? > The reason that I am so curious is due to the fact that I can't get any > lozenge decals locally. My hobby shop, CLH, has ordered the things for me, > but the supplier says that they are back ordered from the manufacturer and > has no idea when they will come in. My first OT kit was the Monogram D.VII > and I am at the stage where I want to finish it so I can start my Eduard > Albatross D. V. Since I don't have any lozenge available, I have to paint it > some other scheme. I like the streaked fabric look, and it sould make for an > interesting aircraft. I've never seen one done in this "pattern". > > Regards, > > Evan. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3115 **********************