WWI Digest 3105

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) RE: FE8 datafile
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
  2) Re: Paints in the US
	by "cameron rile" <cameron@prontomail.com>
  3) RE: S.P.A.D. XIII Rigging
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
  4) RE: S.P.A.D. XIII Rigging
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
  5) Rhinebck . . . or Greensboro?   Yes, we have no Mr. Surfacer today
	by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com
  6) Re: RE: Yes, we have no Mr. Surfacer today.  Re: Dark Crier Awakes
	by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com
  7) Re: Yes, we have no Mr. Surfacer today.  Re: Dark Crier Awakes
	by "Paul E. Thompson" <flutes@xs4all.nl>
  8) Brandenburg KDW
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
  9) New Nieuport 21?
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 10) Flashback Strutter review
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 11) RE: Newbie Bio:Dame Karen
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
 12) RE: Nie. 17 Variable Wing Incidence
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
 13) Re: RE: S.P.A.D. XIII Rigging
	by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com
 14) Re: RE: Yes, we have no Mr. Surfacer today. Re: Dark Crier Awakes
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
 15) RE: FVM O1 wasThulin O1 wasRe: Pomerania
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
 16) List Record?????
	by John_Impenna@hyperion.com
 17) RE: List Record?????
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
 18) Re: New Nieuport 21?
	by David Fleming <dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com>
 19) Re: Cry in the dark
	by David Fleming <dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com>
 20) RE: Cry in the dark
	by Brent Theobald <btheobal@sta.samsung.com>
 21) Re: List Record?????
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
 22) Re: New Nieuport 21?
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 23) Re: windex/ajax
	by David Fleming <dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com>
 24) Re: Rigging Problems?
	by Mark Vaughan-Jackson <mvj@thetelegram.com>
 25) Re: RE: Yes, we have no Mr. Surfacer today.  Re: Dark Crier Awakes
	by GRBroman@aol.com
 26) Re: New Nieuport 21?
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
 27) RE: Rigging Problems?
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
 28) Re: Fokker D.VII O.A.W. stencils
	by "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
 29) RE: Rigging Problems?
	by Volker Haeusler <haeusler@tm.net.my>

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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:27:58 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: FE8 datafile
Message-ID: <021f01c09b30$2db75920$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Thanks Len!
Then I guess that I'll try to tweak the plans until I got the correct sizing
of each view. It'll be fun!
D.

----- Original Message -----
From: Len Smith <lensmith@clara.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: FE8 datafile


> D,
> Only a minor detail wrong with the Drawings in the Datafile.  They had
been
> printed in a variety of sizes, so the top view did not match the side
view,
> which was different from the front view.  Apart from this they appeared to
> be quite good.
> Regards   Len.
>
> lensmith@clara.net
> http://home.clara.net/lensmith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:39 AM
> Subject: FE8 datafile
>
>
> > A question...
> > some tiem ago, Windsock magazine published that they were giving a new
set
> > of drawings of the FE8 to replace those of the datafile.... Wich was the
> > mistake on the datafile drawings? Is it worth to send a SASE to Albatros
> > Ltd.?
> > An inquiring mind wants to know..
> > D.
> >
> >
> >
>
>


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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:23:20 -0500
From: "cameron rile" <cameron@prontomail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Paints in the US
Message-ID: <243BDFAC2F605D115A560005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com>

Shane;

>My reaction to endless messages on usenet
>saying "where can I get <insert foreign sourced
>substance here>" by US modellers and almost
>none by non-US modellers *except*

The local Leesburg shop had a large selection of
Testors and Humbrol, most US Hobby Shops I have
been into have a large selection of Testors
paints only though. I havent seen Gunze yet in a
local hobby shop.

For those in the Nth Virginia region, the local
Leesburg Shop has closed it's doors, the bloke
who owns it has retired. Good luck to him too, he
was a nice bloke. Looks like I will be driving to
Sterling or Chantilly now to get paints and the
like, rather than a couple of miles down the road
to the local guy.




cam
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:41:55 +0100
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: S.P.A.D. XIII Rigging
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A03902699@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

One thing you shouldn't miss is the aileron leverage connection
thingie, at the bottom rear outer struts, it's very typical for
nearly all Spads. I usually hobble them together from stretched 
sprue. They have them in that Eduard set we were talking about, 
but I don't use them, because I think they are too big and flat.
You will see them on the websites that have been reccomended.
Apart from this, Spad rigging is very easy, because all lines are
short, and the long ones should be glued to the middle struts.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: MAnde72343@aol.com [mailto:MAnde72343@aol.com]
> Sent: den 20 februari 2001 02:40
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: S.P.A.D. XIII Rigging
> 
> 
> 
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> Steve, the rigging on the SPAD's is unique, one run, with the 
> center struts 
> as "queenposts" for the rigging, it's actually a single bay 
> design, the 
> arrangement was patented.
> Merrill
> 
> 
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>Steve, the 
> rigging on the SPAD's is unique, one run, with the center struts 
> <BR>as "queenposts" for the rigging, it's actually a single 
> bay design, the 
> <BR>arrangement was patented.
> <BR>Merrill
> <BR>
> <BR></FONT></HTML>
> 
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> 

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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:53:06 +0100
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>,
Subject: RE: S.P.A.D. XIII Rigging
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A0390269A@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

When I wrote hobble them together, I meant cobble them together.
Probably end up the same whatever I do;-)
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Crawford Neil 
> Sent: den 20 februari 2001 13:42
> To: 'wwi@wwi-models.org'
> Subject: RE: S.P.A.D. XIII Rigging
> 
> 
> One thing you shouldn't miss is the aileron leverage connection
> thingie, at the bottom rear outer struts, it's very typical for
> nearly all Spads. I usually hobble them together from stretched 
> sprue. They have them in that Eduard set we were talking about, 
> but I don't use them, because I think they are too big and flat.
> You will see them on the websites that have been reccomended.
> Apart from this, Spad rigging is very easy, because all lines are
> short, and the long ones should be glued to the middle struts.
> /Neil
> 
>
> 

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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:12:48 EST
From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Rhinebck . . . or Greensboro?   Yes, we have no Mr. Surfacer today
Message-ID: <d7.294896b.27c3d560@aol.com>

Maybe instead of a get together at Rhinebeck we should meet at this place.
~Steve
stephendigiacomo@aol.com


In a message dated 2/20/1 4:47:57 AM, Neil.Crawford@volvo.com writes:

<< 

I went into the "hobby shop" in Greensboro North Carolina, and
was amazed at the variety they had. This wasn't a specialized
hobby shop, just a general one, that sold beads, clay, oil-painting
stuff, and a small section for plastic models. That small section
was better than we have in Gothenburg, which is a bigger city,
almost better than the one in Stockholm. 
Don't know what I'm trying to say with this, I just thought of it,
and wrote it.
/Neil >>


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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:17:14 EST
From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: RE: Yes, we have no Mr. Surfacer today.  Re: Dark Crier Awakes
Message-ID: <6.125c770a.27c3d66a@aol.com>

D., is this arrangement peculiar to this one hobby shop or is it general 
practice in Argentina?
I cannot imagine conducting business like that.  At the local hobby shops 
here you walk down the aisles and poke through whatever you like.  Opening 
boxes is of course a no-no.
~Steve di Giacomo
stephendigiacomo@aol.com

In a message dated 2/20/1 5:42:38 AM, dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes:

<< Neil:
It's the same feeling I had when I got into "Bobe's Hobby Shop" in Pensacola
last year. I was quite amazed, but for the american denizens it looked quite
normal. It looked sort of a supermarket for hobbyists....
Here the Hobby shops are a guy behind a counter and behind him a series of
shelves full of models. And if you're a client and worth trusting, he would
let you inspect the shelves by yourself and try finding that elusive kit
instead of making him losing time to see if the "1/72 Naglo Quadruplane" is
still availabe.
D.
Think aloud. So people would notice that you CAN think if required.
 >>


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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:21:41 +0100
From: "Paul E. Thompson" <flutes@xs4all.nl>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Yes, we have no Mr. Surfacer today.  Re: Dark Crier Awakes
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010220141810.00ad8320@pop.xs4all.nl>

At 06:22 AM 20/2/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Re: Yes, we have no Mr. Surfacer today.  Re: Dark Crier Awakes



Actually, here in the Netherlands the easiest paint to find is 
Humbrol.  Revel comes a close second.
Mr surfacer? Like Gunze Sangyo, it's never happened. (As far as I know. Now 
I hope the 3,000 lurking Dutch listees will tell me otherwise).


Paul.



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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:46:25 +0100
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "WW1 list (E-mail)" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Brandenburg KDW
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A0390269D@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

A few days ago, someone asked for references on this one.
I looked in my reference database (PEN/PAPER vers.256 rel.72)
and found very little, someone sure found an odd one here.
My references are:
Harleyford WW1 fighters
Air Enthusiast -74 (that would be in the Fighter A-Z series)
The Bible (ie. Scale model Aircraft in plasticard by Harry "God" Woodman)
there's a nice photo there.

That's it!
/Neil

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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:42:52 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: New Nieuport 21?
Message-ID: <3A927EFC00024CFF@mail01.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail01.san.yahoo.com)

According to the PMMS WW1 site, Eastern Express is going to release a
Nieuport 21.  Huh?  I would like to know more, if anybody does know
anything about this.  Let's hope it's accurate!!! ;-)


Matt Bittner



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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:33:30 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Flashback Strutter review
Message-ID: <3A927EFC00024C64@mail01.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail01.san.yahoo.com)

Our own David Solosy provides a review of the 1.B1 Flashback Strutter:

http://pmms.webace.com.au/ww1/ds_sop1.htm

Excellent job!  And it's French, too!!! :-)


Matt Bittner



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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:10:47 +0100
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Newbie Bio:Dame Karen
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A0390269C@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>


This was the best newbie-bio I've ever seen, very interesting.

Karen wrote:

> Other ongoing interests: Alaskan Malamutes; Italian food; goldfish and
> koi; landscaping with evergreens and perennials; science fiction;
> outrageous ET stuff like the face on Mars and how DID they build those
> pyramids?; digital photography; remodeling my Victorian house;
> archaeology; Tibetan Buddhism
 
I'm with you on landscape gardening, although I'm more into hindrance of
landscape gardening, my wife does that, and I just keep planting weird 
plants  without telling her, and then if they grow she doesn't have
the heart to remove them. But what is an Alaskan Malamute? 
Could it be the Alaskan version of Vegamite?

I hope you will continue with the DH1A, that's one of my favorites.
/Neil

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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:21:31 +0100
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Nie. 17 Variable Wing Incidence
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A0390269B@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

I think a lot of this had to do with how good the rigger was.
A well rigged a/c was so much better than a bad one, the 
aces and experienced pilots made damn sure, that they had 
a well-rigged plane, whwereas newcomers got old and out of true
planes. I imagine that a good rigger would have a few tricks of
the trade like compensating for torque with wing incidence
on one side.
Just surmising here.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: RadspadMike@netscape.net [mailto:RadspadMike@netscape.net]
> Sent: den 20 februari 2001 00:59
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: Nie. 17 Variable Wing Incidence
> 
> 
> 
> Dave and Mike, thanks much.  You are not nitpicking.  I have 
> a lot better understanding of the subject that I didn't even 
> know existed until a few days ago.  No book can cover 
> everything and no one can read every book.  That's what makes 
> this list so special.
> 
> I couldn't begin to estimate the effect of one or more 
> degrees incidence change on one lower wing of Nie. 17 in 
> countering rotary engine torque at take-off or cruising 
> speed.  If it had been especially effective, I suppose it 
> would have been used by more aircraft designers of the 
> period.  I was trying to get a sense of what the pilot of a 
> rotary-engined aircraft had to contend with.  Elliott's 
> description of using obsolete, stub-winged (so they 
> supposedly couldn't get airborne) Moranes for ground practice 
> before being allowed to fly the Nieuports, led me to believe 
> that the torque effect was considerable.
> 
>   Mike K. 
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:51:58 EST
From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: RE: S.P.A.D. XIII Rigging
Message-ID: <2f.1132db36.27c3de8e@aol.com>

No, cobbling is my method.  : > )
~Steve

cob0ble2 (kÄb2õl) tr.v. cob0bled, cob0bling, cob0bles.
1. To make or mend (boots or shoes).
2. To put together clumsily; bungle.


hob0ble (hÄb2õl) v. hob0bled, hob0bling, hob0bles.
—intr.
1. To walk or move along haltingly or with difficulty; limp.
—tr.
1. To put a device around the legs of (a horse, for example) so as to hamper 
but not prevent movement.
2. To cause to limp.
3. To hamper the action or progress of; impede.

—hob0ble n.
1. A hobbling walk or gait.
2. A device, such as a rope or strap, used to hobble an animal.
3. Archaic. An awkward situation. —hob2bler n.

?


In a message dated 2/20/1 9:36:38 AM, Neil.Crawford@volvo.com writes:

<< When I wrote hobble them together, I meant cobble them together.
Probably end up the same whatever I do;-)
/Neil >>


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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:00:25 
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: RE: Yes, we have no Mr. Surfacer today. Re: Dark Crier Awakes
Message-ID: <F250lfSudpuoRNuzI5700011ea8@hotmail.com>

>From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com

>At the local hobby shops here you walk down the aisles and poke >through 
>whatever you like.  Opening boxes is of course a no-no.

Maybe it's a no-no but a decent vendor should open the shrink wrap if you 
want to look.  As I've said previously, our local place, Nostaligic Plastic, 
will do that and they have their own shrink wrap machine to wrap it up again 
if they want.

Michael
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:08:54 +0100
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: FVM O1 wasThulin O1 wasRe: Pomerania
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A0390269E@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

Yes he really did that, sawed it down himself too. The
most difficult thing was probably finding a spruce that
was tall, straight and old in swedish forests nowadays.
I heard about a Norwegian homebuilder building a Falco I
think, who ordered aircraft quality spruce from the US to
be certain of the proper quality. The Norwegian customs
thought he was nuts, importing spruce to Norway!
/Neil

> 
> I think he may be the scratchbuilder of all scratchbuilders. 
> I forget which- 
> the Tummelisa or Bleriot, but one of these was built using 
> wood from a tree 
> on his dad's property. Jeez, he not only starts with raw 
> stock, he grew the 
> damn stuff!
> RK
> 

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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:14:29 -0500
From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: List Record?????
Message-ID: <OFBF39CBEC.B33E16C6-ON852569F9.0053682D@hyperion.com>


Hi All,
Just had to pass this one along. I placed an order with Aeroclub on
Thursday 2/15/2001. I am in Stamford, CT, USA. The order was just dropped
off to me by our mail room!!!!!!  Less than 5 days from England to the USA
with regular small packet airmail, no rush delivery!!!  This has to be a
list record!!!!

I have also received an NKR package in 7 days!!!  Top these!

Regards,
John



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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:19:56 +0100
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: List Record?????
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A0390269F@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

I couldn't possibly, I'm still waiting for my Spad XII from Hannants:-(
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com [mailto:John_Impenna@hyperion.com]
> Sent: den 20 februari 2001 16:20
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: List Record?????
> 
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> Just had to pass this one along. I placed an order with Aeroclub on
> Thursday 2/15/2001. I am in Stamford, CT, USA. The order was 
> just dropped
> off to me by our mail room!!!!!!  Less than 5 days from 
> England to the USA
> with regular small packet airmail, no rush delivery!!!  This 
> has to be a
> list record!!!!
> 
> I have also received an NKR package in 7 days!!!  Top these!
> 
> Regards,
> John
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:22:03 +0000
From: David Fleming <dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: New Nieuport 21?
Message-ID: <3A928B9A.8896703D@dial.pipex.com>

Matt Bittner wrote:

> According to the PMMS WW1 site, Eastern Express is going to release a
> Nieuport 21.  Huh?  I would like to know more, if anybody does know
> anything about this.  Let's hope it's accurate!!! ;-)
>

Willing to bet it's the Toko 11/16 ?

Dave


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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:23:30 +0000
From: David Fleming <dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Cry in the dark
Message-ID: <3A928BF1.A873C8A9@dial.pipex.com>

Shane & Lorna Jenkins wrote:

> Shane Weier wrote:
> >
> > I have a vision of a blue Police Box standing in the trenches, with a Fokker
> > F.1 crashed into the side so that the cowl is entirely hidden.
> >
> > A long multicoloured scarf trails from beneath the fuselage. On the title
> > plate
> >
> > "Only Time Lords Know"
> >
> > Shane
> >
>
> You're sick and twisted and I LOVE IT!!!
>
> I want to see you build this (once it becomes cool enough to model up
> there of course)
>

He'll have to pay me my copyright fee first, having suggested this idea on the
list not two weeks ago !!

:-)

Dave


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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:26:41 -0600
From: Brent Theobald <btheobal@sta.samsung.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Cry in the dark
Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79ED79@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com>

Howdy!

Speaking of the Voss controversy.... I saw two street signs: Voss Way and
Voss Crossing. Both signs were green with white text. More points in favor
of the Green Team.

Later!

Brent

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Boorman [mailto:Ray_Boorman@telus.net]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:51 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: RE: Cry in the dark


Tsk Tsk, everyone knows Voss's cowl was Vegemite coloured (Colored for those
down south). Of course the trick is knowing if its the shade of a Vegemite
lid or the contents.

For those wondering what the heck, well you were obviously dragged up, led a
sheltered childhood or never suffered the childhood torture of eating
Vegemite/Marmite

Greetings Karen welcome to the list otherwise known as bedlam.

Ray

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Shane
> Weier
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 10:40 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: RE: Cry in the dark
>
>
> E mentions:
>
> > And be'especially'ware of the eternal question regarding the color of
> > Voss' F.1 cowl, which has nearly achieved the status, and
> > body count, of a holy war.
>
> I've just been reading the contest sections in the IPMS USA Contest Rule
> book. There's one there for "Humour"
>
> I have a vision of a blue Police Box standing in the trenches,
> with a Fokker
> F.1 crashed into the side so that the cowl is entirely hidden.
>
> A long multicoloured scarf trails from beneath the fuselage. On the title
> plate
>
> "Only Time Lords Know"
>
> Shane
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:26:54 
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: List Record?????
Message-ID: <F54rVc4Iu1B6gVs1tIz0000434d@hotmail.com>

>From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com

>Just had to pass this one along. I placed an order with Aeroclub on
>Thursday 2/15/2001. I am in Stamford, CT, USA. The order was just >dropped 
>off to me by our mail room!!!!!!  Less than 5 days from >England to the USA 
>with regular small packet airmail, no rush >delivery!!!  This has to be a 
>list record!!!!
>
>I have also received an NKR package in 7 days!!!  Top these!

I never ordered stuff from Aeroclub but pehaps I should.  Turnaround time is 
a very good indicator of whether the vendor has their act together.  Of 
course, if the vendor says up front that it'll take 4 weeks, that's also OK. 
  Reliability is the key.

My last NKR order took only 6 days; earl must be slowing down:)!

Michael
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:27:35 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: New Nieuport 21?
Message-ID: <3A927EFC00099F56@mail01.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail01.san.yahoo.com)

On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:26:47 -0500 (EST), David Fleming wrote:

> Willing to bet it's the Toko 11/16 ?

Argh!  I sure hope not.  Gads...but you're probably right.


Matt Bittner



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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:27:43 +0000
From: David Fleming <dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: windex/ajax
Message-ID: <3A928CEE.E8C15E87@dial.pipex.com>

Allan Wright wrote:

> > Yes I use Ajax, I think it's the same, but I recently got into trouble mixing
> > Tamiya flat base, Klear/future and Ajax. Tamiya and Ajax are not compatible,
> > stick with alcohol.
> > /Neil
> > Neil referred some time ago having tried Ajax in palce of american
> > Windex. I think that Ajax is more ore less the same stuff. You can find
> > that in Nordic countries but I wonder wether it's available in Germany,
> > though.
>
> Careful here - in the USA the brand name Ajax is used for a gritty scouring
> clenser that is a powder form with chlorine 'bleach' in it in a dry form.
> Other brand name for this would be Comet. Best if we put origin of brand
> names beside things when we use them for clarity. Windex (US) or Ajax (UK)
> etc. Sound like a good idea?
>

Ajax (US) sounds like what I know as Ajax (UK). I suspect the equivalent UK product
is Windowlene (Also a Johnston's product IIRC)

>
> By the way - don't mix Windex (US) with Ajax (US) as the chlorine and ammonia
> make a poisonous gas!

Which may have an OT context .

dave



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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:07:23 +0100
From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson <mvj@thetelegram.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Rigging Problems?
Message-ID: <l03130301b6b7ffe60fbe@[192.168.233.66]>

>problems rigging and erecting your RFC/RAF??
>
>Yep, I remember him--but that's another story...
>
>Karen


Oh Karen, you're going to fit right in here!! LOL.

P.S. thanks for the bio. I envy you new year's at Ankor Wat. Southeast Asia
is something of a holy grail for me. Alas the wife's peanut and assorted
food allergies are such that I doubt I'll ever make it. She'd choke as soon
as she got off the plane.

Nice to see another artist on list. . .I'm an arts reporter at a newspaper
in Newfoundland so I have a soft spot for 'em.

Mark V-J



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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:32:58 EST
From: GRBroman@aol.com
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: RE: Yes, we have no Mr. Surfacer today.  Re: Dark Crier Awakes
Message-ID: <d9.107b1fa4.27c3e82a@aol.com>

In a message dated Tue, 20 Feb 2001  9:43:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, Stephendigiacomo@aol.com writes:
<< D., is this arrangement peculiar to this one hobby shop or is it generalpractice in Argentina? I cannot imagine conducting business like that.  At the local hobby shops here you walk down the aisles and poke through whatever you like.  Opening boxes is of course a no-no.

I've actually run into something like this right in Chicago at Al's Hobhy. The armor kits are kept behind a counter and you have to ask a salesperson to pull them out so you can look at them.  This is especially bad for guys like me whose eyesight is starting to go. One of my favorites shops was a little store in downtown Mannheim just a block or two from the Hauptbahnhof. Just a tiny place with hardly enough room to turn around in and stacked to teh cieling with all kinds of kits.
Glen 

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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:34:08 
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: New Nieuport 21?
Message-ID: <F104moxhuuflQXyNrgL0001b180@hotmail.com>

>From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
>
>On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:26:47 -0500 (EST), David Fleming wrote:
>
> > Willing to bet it's the Toko 11/16 ?
>
>Argh!  I sure hope not.  Gads...but you're probably right.

Matt:

Look closely at the box art.  it doesn't have the little triangular "cheeks" 
behind the front cowl, characteristic of the 11/16.  Looks a bit like a 
Nieuport 21 to me.  Plus, the 11 and 16 are already re-released by Eastern 
Express.

Dave - I'm willing to bet one haggis and a bottle of Coke!
Michael
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:38:45 +0100
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Rigging Problems?
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A039026A2@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

I choked on the plane, mixed with the peanuts were tiny little fish,
with eyes and everything, that was Malaysian Airlines.
/Neil



> P.S. thanks for the bio. I envy you new year's at Ankor Wat. 
> Southeast Asia
> is something of a holy grail for me. Alas the wife's peanut 
> and assorted
> food allergies are such that I doubt I'll ever make it. She'd 
> choke as soon
> as she got off the plane.
> 
> Nice to see another artist on list. . .I'm an arts reporter 
> at a newspaper
> in Newfoundland so I have a soft spot for 'em.
> 
> Mark V-J
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:48:11 -0600
From: "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Fokker D.VII O.A.W. stencils
Message-ID: <sa923d75.058@mail1-fs.amerus.com>

 Dave Calhoun was curious about:

"the stencils used on the wings ... [of] O.A.W. built aircraft"

The best course would be to buy the Americal Gryphon sheet on Jasta 12, which offers all the factory marks.  However, per your particular query, the wingtip markings for OAW are different from Fokker's:

"hier anheben" with white arrow at the two spar locations - no black oval.  This on underside of top wing and top of lower wing.

"hier nicht anheben" aft of stern spar on top of lower wing.

white incidence marks at trailing edge on rib stations 1,3,6,9 (inboard to out) on top of lower wing.

The instruction sheet also shows all the strut, tail, and fuselage markings and their variations, and is worth the price of the decals.

Lance


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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:36:22 +0700
From: Volker Haeusler <haeusler@tm.net.my>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: Rigging Problems?
Message-ID: <PIEDKPMPLLECGIPNNGNPKEOKCFAA.haeusler@tm.net.my>

Neil said:

"I choked on the plane, mixed with the peanuts were tiny little fish,
with eyes and everything, that was Malaysian Airlines."


Nope, that´s actually the other way round: LOTS of tiny little fish (with
eyes and everything) and some nuts in between - all on top of some coconut
rice. Called Nasi Lemak over here, and I have to stand that roughly once per
week on the Penang-Kuala Lumpur flight with Malaysian Airlines. But you get
used to it...

Volker


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