WWI Digest 3080 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Scale wars/ was OT contest report by Crawford Neil 2) RE: Friedrichshafen help request one more time by "Michael Kendix" 3) Re: Scale Wars / was OT Contest Report by "Mark Shannon" 4) Re: Disk Space by Allan Wright 5) Re: Scale Wars / was OT Contest Report by "Matt Bittner" 6) Re: Web Update by Allan Wright 7) RE: Scale wars/ was OT contest report by GRBroman@aol.com 8) New Domain Name by Allan Wright 9) Re: Friedrichshafen help request one more time by MAnde72343@aol.com 10) RE: New Domain Name by "Gaston Graf" 11) Re: Model Expo 1/16 scale Nieuport 28 by "Jim Landon" 12) Re: A Sopwith Gift for the list by "Jim Landon" 13) RE: New Domain Name by "Michael Kendix" 14) Re: New Domain Name by Allan Wright 15) RE: New Domain Name by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 16) WWI observers' wireless gear by "Jim Landon" 17) Mr Surfacer - Mr Primer by "Brian Nicklas" 18) Re: Virus Warning by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 19) Looking for kits... by "Brian Nicklas" 20) Re: image cropping & compression by Steve Cox 21) Re: Looking for kits... by MAnde72343@aol.com 22) T-shirts printed with Salmson photos by "Jim Landon" 23) RE: Looking for kits... by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 24) Re: Looking for kits... by RadspadMike@netscape.net 25) Decals for Kurt Seit's Fokker D.VI?? by RadspadMike@netscape.net 26) Czech Master's Kits by Todd Hayes 27) Re: Decals for Kurt Seit's Fokker D.VI?? by "Matt Bittner" 28) Re: Disk Space by "Jim Landon" 29) Re: Disk Space by Allan Wright 30) No longer looking! by "Brian Nicklas" 31) Re: Decals for Kurt Seit's Fokker D.VI?? by RadspadMike@netscape.net 32) Re: Shops in the Far East by Todd Hayes 33) Extra copy by "Steven M.Perry" 34) Re: Extra copy by "Steven M.Perry" 35) Re: Tom's Modelworks Lewis' by "The Shannons" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:20:31 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Scale wars/ was OT contest report Message-ID: I'm afraid I think objectivity spoils judging to a certain extent. To be truly objective you have to have so many rules and criterias that it is easy to lose focus on finding the good models. Objectivity takes time, which is limited at competitions. I could go on, and I probably will, but that will have to be tomorrow;-) /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Bittner [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] > Sent: den 14 februari 2001 15:07 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Scale wars/ was OT contest report > > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:01:29 -0500 (EST), Michael Kendix wrote: > > > >From: Crawford Neil > > > > >>>You write: given they have the same amount of errors. > > >I hate this kind of judging, error-counting, I wish they would > > >judge the positive instead. > > > > I agree somewhat but it's the IPMS USA "way", which attempts to be > > objective. Then there's the Enlgish method of judging at > their nationals in > > Telford, which I still don't comprehend, even though it's > been explained a > > couple of times. Could someone who knows please explain it gain?:). > > The AMPS judging style is a bit more positive oriented, and - I feel - > better in most ways than the US' IPMS rules. Unfortunately > the problem > comes with the judges - you have to make sure they're judging > the "AMPS > way", and aren't just judging using the "IPMS way". > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:21:32 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Friedrichshafen help request one more time Message-ID: >From: Brent Theobald >At this point you may be the person who knows the most about > >Fredrichshafens on the list. Cue - heavy breathing and the voice of James Earl Jones.... True perhaps, "on the list" BUT I sense "another". Off the list, namely, O-Bee-Hustad-Can-Obe, he of the FF.49. Unfortunately, he subscribes not and must be contacted through "other" means, namely, through his "Prophet", R-2-D-2@Bittner aka "The Small-Scale One". Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:27:27 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Scale Wars / was OT Contest Report Message-ID: Crawford Neil wrote: >Puh, I did know that, just a temporary lapse, thank god >I do know everything after all! Look, people, I've said it before and I'll say it again - those of you who think you know everything are very irritating to those of us who do. On the other hand, adding to the actual topic, while the IPMS rules are subject to much criticism, they were to try to avoid certain abuses. The biggest problem in any modeling contest is that the judges end up unable to rule on their particular field of expertise, since they likely brought their own entry. Furthermore, even if someone is not competing this time in a category they are familiar with, there can be fights over whose references are right on some of the details, and whether a lot of superdetailing can overcome flawed technique (Steven Hustads are rare, except on this list) or how much to deduct for believing references that the very latest information has corrected (library envy). Having judged many times at the local show, and being viewed as fairly impartial since I am not a member of the local (slight conflict between meeting times and opera rehearsals), I can tell you that the 'accuracy' issues rarely surface in any case. Items such as detail painting outside the lines, uneven presentation (weatherbeaten, war weary exterior, brand spanking new interior - it happens), or landing gear that indicates a major ground loop are more often deciding factors in weeding the lot. When it gets down to first-second-third these things get down into the nitty-gritty and sometimes it is simply a vote between three good models with tiny flaws but an overall pleasing presentation and then the historical facts may come into play (anybody know if this streaky, semi-translucent paint job is trying to portray an accurate field repaint?) People may fault me on this, but I always give that sort of thing the benefit of the doubt if the general craftsmanship is good. On the scale wars effect in judging, I've seen it and other prejudices play out. The usually place it comes up is in 'straight out of the box ' category, as most of the other categories are popular enough to have been separated at the planning stage. Sometime it has been hard to get some judges to really look at the 1/72nd scale entry next to the 1/48th in the category. I have also seen a few prejudices against WWI models - for instance, many judges won't consider a WWI aircraft in the 'Best Cockpit' supercatagory because 'there just isn't all that much in there' - and some for WWI aircraft in their category - a flashy, recognized, but not run-of-the-mill, WWI type is more likely to win, I think, than a camouflaged WWII/Spanish Civil War era biplane. But overall, I think the main prejudice that enters all judging is the one where someone who looks like they knew what they were doing is most likely to be given the benefit of any doubt about authenticity when it comes down to it. If someone were to present a beautifully made near flawless Sopwith Triplane in Jasta 5 markings, it might fly with the judges. Similarly in ships, a well made Mountbatten Pink HMS Hood might be accepted until someone like me asks when she was painted that way. Even the AMPS 'open' judging comes down to a matter of whether the build techniques of the modeler were up to the standards set for a Bronze/Silver/Gold. Its main advantage, I think, is that the standards are there for everyone to read and there is not the question of why 'so-and-so's plain Common Guttersnipe (a prototype aircraft from between the time Sopwith was dissolved and when they settled on the Hawker Aircraft name) won over my everything is open and visible superdetailed prize Floozy (a Supermarine design from when Reginald Mitchell was working on ideas to end up in the S***f*r*). This is a bit long, but the topic of judging can be so dividing because of personal opinions and sometime bitterness from patently bad judging. There is a reason behind all the judging method decisions each organization has adopted, but often it is just as flawed as a Florida election in operation. Usually buttonholing a judge after the decisions are announced can give you some insight as to why the decisions were made as they were. I have my own gripe about prejudices in judging, when my 1/700 scale Liberty Ship modified to post-war civilian configuration lost to a ca 1/100 scale wooden sailing ship whose deck (if you blew it up to actual size) had ankle-trapping gaps between all of the planking and enough finger width gaps in the hull planking to put it in Davy Jones's Locker. ;{) .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:34:53 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Disk Space Message-ID: <200102141534.KAA11445@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Allan Wright napisał(a): > > > Here's what I've come up with so far: > > > > 1) 4 images per model - I'll request that members submit 4 or less images > > per model in their gallery. > > I understand but hope that you can cast some spells and increase disk > space. I have only one gallery which has more than four images. It is > DH-2 - If it can help please choose four best in your opinion and remove > rest. I have them all on Polish Modeler website. The disk space emergency is over - I foung a gigabyte of space to use and moved some stuff off the web server's disk. No files need to be deleted. I even restored Jim Landon's files. Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:40:18 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Scale Wars / was OT Contest Report Message-ID: <200102141540.HAA15946@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:31:58 -0500 (EST), Mark Shannon wrote: > Even the AMPS 'open' judging comes down to a matter of whether the build techniques of the modeler were up to the standards set for a Bronze/Silver/Gold. Its main advantage, I think, is that the standards are there for everyone to read and there is not the question of why 'so-and-so's plain Common Guttersnipe (a prototype aircraft from between the time Sopwith was dissolved and when they settled on the Hawker Aircraft name) won over my everything is open and visible superdetailed prize Floozy (a Supermarine design from when Reginald Mitchell was working on ideas to end up in the S***f*r*). But one thing that people miss - when they're not familiar with the judging - is that in the AMPS style, each model is judged separately, and *not* against the masses. So, you could judge in your area of expertise. When the model you entered into a category is up for judging, then have someone take your place to judge it. Another aspect missed - or unknown - is that AMPS breaks it down into "levels" - novice, "medium" (can't remember the exact term), expert and master. You compete in the "class" you build in. So, someone entereing an AMPS competition for the first time would *not* compete with the likes of the Hustads out there. If you enter an IPMS contest for the first time, you have to compete against everyone, regardless of skill level. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:54:12 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web Update Message-ID: <200102141554.KAA13120@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Al has his priorities right... > > > OK, The webspace problem has been solved. I was able to clear > > out a Meg of > > non-web related files so we're in the clear for the forseable future. > > ..deleting all that work related craps so that there's space for more fun ! SSShhhhh!!! Don't tell my boss :-) =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:54:37 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: Subject: RE: Scale wars/ was OT contest report Message-ID: <9c.bab9b39.27bc043e@aol.com> In a message dated Wed, 14 Feb 2001 7:48:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, Crawford Neil writes: But on the whole I agree with you, 1/48 and 1/72 should always be in separate classes, for the reasons you give. Not necessarily, when judging by "class", I would agree but when using the "open" system, it really doesn't matter. Let me explain. In the open system, which we use at the Quad Cities show (notice, that it's called a show and not a contest :)) the categories or classes are purely administrative in nature, i.e all planes together, all ships together all cars together, etc. The open system does not use the traditional first, second, third system, but unlimited gold, silver and bronze awards for each category. In other words, if your model meets the minimum requirements for a bronze, it gets a bronze. We also have published guidelines for the judges that emphasize the positive aspects of the model. Please understand that I'm not saying that this system is any better or worse than any other. It's just that is what we chose to use for our show. If any one would like a copy of our judging criteria, please feel free to ask off list and I will send you a copy via email. Even be! tter, come to our show in Milan, Illinois on March 31st and see for yourself (shameless plug time). Comrade Bittner won the Dwight Humhprey Memorial Trophy last year with one of his 1/72 (of course) gems. We are still trying to talk him into defending his title this year. Hey Matt listen to the crowds, " Bittner, Bittner, Bittner! They want you back :). Oh, one other neat little thing I've noticed, we have a peoples choice award in each category as well. That old thing about bigger being better is true. The big stuff always seems to attract the publics eye. We almost always see that every year in the peoples choice awards. We may have an exquisite 1/72 gem in aircraft that takes the Dwight Humphrey memorial in the aircraft class, but the Peoples Choice is a 1/24 Stuka that only received a bronze from the judges. That's why I loved entering my HP 0/400, it's big and attracts the eye, never mind all those pesky little problems ;). Glen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:13:03 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: New Domain Name Message-ID: <200102141613.LAA13331@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hi modelers! Just to let you all know, I've secured the domain wwi-models.org for my use. The pease1 address will continue to work, but within the next 2 weeks or so I'll be activating the wwi-models.org domain name! Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:14:32 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Friedrichshafen help request one more time Message-ID: <3e.7744507.27bc08e9@aol.com> Bucky, I will check my references when I get hime, and check the Sierra Vac I have (to get their informed opinion) Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:02:44 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: New Domain Name Message-ID: Allan, does this mean the complet new url will be http://www.wwi-models.org? No uk behind it anymore? I'll update the link to it at my links page asap. cheers Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Allan Wright > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:15 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: New Domain Name > > > Hi modelers! > > Just to let you all know, I've secured the domain wwi-models.org for my > use. The pease1 address will continue to work, but within the next 2 weeks > or so I'll be activating the wwi-models.org domain name! > > Allan > > ================================================================== > ============= > Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny > University of New Hampshire > +-------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: > wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu ============================================================================ === ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:14:38 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Expo 1/16 scale Nieuport 28 Message-ID: Alvie said: <> Did you build it yet? Photos? I have only seen that one built-up Albatros that I mentioned. <> It's important input that someone who has the Albatros wants to buy the Nie 28. <> Happy birthday in advance. Mine isn't until November -- but wait, when is Fathers' Day? <> You are too kind, but thanks. I am hoping maybe the museum will furnish one of these kits and have me assemble it. It sure would be nice to be able to just build a model from parts contained in a single box. It's very tedious to constantly have to try to figure out what something is in a photo or drawing of a Salmson, and then figure out what material to make it out of, and how to make it. And then what to do about the mistakes. Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:19:04 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: A Sopwith Gift for the list Message-ID: <> Take them to Kinko's. I'll buy a set. Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:35:54 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: New Domain Name Message-ID: >From: "Gaston Graf" > >does this mean the complet new url will be http://www.wwi-models.org? >No >uk behind it anymore? I'll update the link to it at my links page >asap. The site is in the US, not UK, so there is no country code on the end. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:52:23 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Domain Name Message-ID: <200102141752.MAA15799@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > does this mean the complet new url will be http://www.wwi-models.org? No uk > behind it anymore? I'll update the link to it at my links page asap. The domain name won't be active for a couple days, but when it is the url will be wwi-models.org OR www.wwi-models.org pease1.sr.unh.edu will still work of course, but you should bookmark the new address. Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:30:21 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: New Domain Name Message-ID: >>From: "Gaston Graf" >> >>does this mean the complet new url will be http://www.wwi-models.org? >No >>uk behind it anymore? I'll update the link to it at my links page >asap. > >The site is in the US, not UK, so there is no country code on the end. > >Michael Yes Gaston. . .I think you're thinking of Scho's site which is wwi.uk.org or something similar. Comments Scho? MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:14:30 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: WWI observers' wireless gear Message-ID: Brent said: <> Well, now I know why nobody ever answers MY questions! ;-) Which reminds me, do we have anyone on the list who knows much about WWI observers' wireless gear? Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:53:12 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Mr Surfacer - Mr Primer Message-ID: Meteor Productions in Merrifield Virginia USA carries the Gunze "Mr" line. http://www.meteorprod.com I think is the url. Usually an ad in Finescale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:20:53 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Virus Warning Message-ID: <34.10e5349a.27bc3495@aol.com> In a message dated 2/13/2001 1:31:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, aew@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: << BTW, I get $150/hr and time and a half for Saturday, Double time for Sunday. Allan >> Gee's Allen, I did not know you did plumbing on the side! At those prices you have to be a plumber! Oh My Gotha it's here!!!! Back on topic, my box arrived from NRK and I'm getting ready to check out all the goodies he sent me. Fast service to, quicker than I get here from many of the US companies. Best Regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:12:41 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Looking for kits... Message-ID: I have run across an old Winsock announcement that I wish had caught my eye back then (1990): Phoenix Models kit P15 - Caudron G4 (6pounds50) Sold by Blue Rider (So - anyone got one they won't build??) More realistic query - I opened my (sealed) Airfix 1/72 Sopwith 2F.1 Camel which I had purchased from a second hand kit dealer to find that it had been sealed after the kit had been removed and trash sprue had been added. Now the evil bast$%# who did this is no longer in business, and hasn't been seen in a bit, so no recourse there. But, I am now without the kit I had planned for the Sopwith Cookup. Anyone got a lead on a reasonable 1/72 Airfix Sopwith 2F.1 Camel? I don't think it is in current production. Please respond direct (off list) Thanks!! Brian Nicklas brian.nicklas@nasm.si.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:16:24 +0000 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: image cropping & compression Message-ID: On the Mac try GraphicConverter, shareware rather than free but an excellent tool. Don't know whether it's available for the rest of the world. Regards Steve > From: Mark Miller > To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Subject: Re: Disk Space > Message-ID: <20010212214607.4764.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> > > On Mon, 12 February 2001, "Matt Bittner" wrote: > >> Snip snip snip...... > > No, I think you can make this call - or at least a strong suggestion - Allan's > mid level compression seems a good guidline. Of course some people might not > have the software which allows you to control these things - anybody know of > any free image edit software that would do this. > > Mark > =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:32:02 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Looking for kits... Message-ID: <16.8c9e37f.27bc4542@aol.com> Brian that is one awful kit, where are you? I'll send you the kit, no charge, if you pay the freight. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:32:57 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: T-shirts printed with Salmson photos Message-ID: Michael said: <> Well I'll be danged. I was indeed able to select a photo and have it applied to a postcard. I had the postcard sent to my young grandson and will see if it arrives or not. I expected to be charged for it, but the first one must be free. I hate to think what a T-shirt or mug would cost. The good news is: 1. Hardly anybody visits my website, even when I beg them to. 2. Nobody in their right mind would want to pay good money for a T-shirt or mug with a Salmson 2A2 on it. 3. If they do, so what? Yeah, I know, copyrights. Now if somebody produced 1,ooo items with a copyrighted photo on it... Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:35:04 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: Subject: RE: Looking for kits... Message-ID: Sorry to hear about that Brian. I've heard about this happening even from people returning kits to retailers that have been "repackaged". This is the reason I will not buy a kit at a flea market or model show that is sealed in heat shrink. I want to look at it first to make sure I am getting what I am paying for. I have one of these kits (#01075). Contact me off list if you are interested. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Brian Nicklas More realistic query - I opened my (sealed) Airfix 1/72 Sopwith 2F.1 Camel which I had purchased from a second hand kit dealer to find that it had been sealed after the kit had been removed and trash sprue had been added. Now the evil bast$%# who did this is no longer in business, and hasn't been seen in a bit, so no recourse there. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:39:24 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Looking for kits... Message-ID: <750E5914.1F5B4F6E.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Brian, I have the Airfix Sopwith 2F1 Camel 1918 which is yours if you want it. It was the only kit not claimed when I put several Bittner scale kits up for grabs a few weeks ago. Send me your address off line and I'll get it to you. Mike K. wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu wrote: > > I have run across an old Winsock announcement that I wish had caught my eye > back then (1990): > Phoenix Models kit P15 - Caudron G4 (6pounds50) > Sold by Blue Rider > (So - anyone got one they won't build??) > > More realistic query - I opened my (sealed) Airfix 1/72 Sopwith 2F.1 Camel > which I had purchased from a second hand kit dealer to find that it had > been sealed > after the kit had been removed and trash sprue had been added. > Now the evil bast$%# who did this is no longer in business, and hasn't been > seen in a bit, so no recourse there. > But, I am now without the kit I had planned for the Sopwith Cookup. > Anyone got a lead on a reasonable 1/72 Airfix Sopwith 2F.1 Camel? > I don't think it is in current production. > Please respond direct (off list) > Thanks!! > Brian Nicklas > brian.nicklas@nasm.si.edu > > > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:11:19 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Decals for Kurt Seit's Fokker D.VI?? Message-ID: <401E31C3.44923F28.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Does anyone know of any 1/48 decals for Kurt Seit's Fokker D.VI pictured on the inside cover of the Windsock Datafile 84? I can probably handle the lozenge and the trim around it, but I'm not too sure my artwork is up to painting the cowl markings and "Fratz" lettering on plain decal sheet. TIA, Mike K. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:13:45 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Czech Master's Kits Message-ID: <20010214211345.20296.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, VAMP has some new 1:72 OT figures on their site. They're titled "Richthofen's Flying Circus." 3 pc. set. TH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:16:37 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Decals for Kurt Seit's Fokker D.VI?? Message-ID: <200102142116.NAA18720@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:16:05 -0500 (EST), RadspadMike@netscape.net wrote: > Does anyone know of any 1/48 decals for Kurt Seit's Fokker D.VI pictured on the inside cover of the Windsock Datafile 84? I can probably handle the lozenge and the trim around it, but I'm not too sure my artwork is up to painting the cowl markings and "Fratz" lettering on plain decal sheet. You're funny. That scheme was not known to the general public until the Datafile came out. However, those of us on the "inside" have already built the thing... ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:25:16 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Disk Space Message-ID: Allan said: <> That has an interesting twang to it. ;-) Like you really hated to have to restore them. ;-) Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:31:06 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Disk Space Message-ID: <200102142131.QAA24690@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Allan said: <> > > That has an interesting twang to it. ;-) Like you really hated to have to > restore them. ;-) Not at all, meaning although I deleted them I had so much space I felt we could afford to put them back even thought they're on your site too. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:31:58 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: No longer looking! Message-ID: I have had several offers for an Airfix Camel, and have accepted. The fine folks on this list are great. Thanks to all. Brian Nicklas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:35:00 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Decals for Kurt Seit's Fokker D.VI?? Message-ID: <749BB748.611F2392.3E0364A1@netscape.net> wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:16:05 -0500 (EST), RadspadMike@netscape.net > wrote: > > > Does anyone know of any 1/48 decals for Kurt Seit's Fokker D.VI pictured on the inside cover of the Windsock Datafile 84?  I can probably handle the lozenge and the trim around it, but I'm not too sure my artwork is up to painting the cowl markings and "Fratz" lettering on plain decal sheet. > > You're funny.  That scheme was not known to the general public until > the Datafile came out. > > However, those of us on the "inside" have already built the thing... > ;-) > > > Matt Bittner > > No big thing. I'll scratch it. I'm the only one who has to look at it anyhow. Mike K. > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:04:50 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Shops in the Far East Message-ID: <20010214220450.98101.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> Knut, I think Fine Scale Modeler lists at least one shop in Singapore in their hobby shop directory. Eduard has a distributor there too. I think it might be the shop listed in FSM. It's Hobby Bounties, 865 Mountbatten Rd. #02-91/92, Katong. In New Zealand, there's also Blue Sky Models, P.O. Box 27841, Mt. Roskill, Auckland. HTH Todd --- Knut Erik Hagen wrote: > Hei, > > I am supposed to work in the Far East this year, > firstly out of Brunei, > but the company has offices in Singapore and Perth > as well. > Found a decent shop in Perth when I was there, but > can some list members > point to shops and other places of interest in > Singapore and Brunei? > > > Eders > Knut Erik > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:17:26 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Extra copy Message-ID: <001101c096d3$eaadd2e0$21f0aec7@default> I bought what turned out to be a second copy of the Squadron Signal book in Nieuport Fighters. If anyone wants it, I'll let it go for a SASE manilla envelope. LMK off List ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:49:51 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Extra copy Message-ID: <000d01c096d8$71b58e00$09f0aec7@default> > If anyone wants it, I'll let it go for a SASE manilla envelope. LMK off List Gone sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:58:45 -0600 From: "The Shannons" To: Subject: Re: Tom's Modelworks Lewis' Message-ID: <007b01c096d9$b33d9100$3aa8343f@shark> I haven't built the Lewis guns, and I build that stuff in 1/48, but I have built Tom's Modelworks Parabellums and Spandau's in my scale. They are difficult in that there is so much really tiny stuff in a small space. I can't imagine trying to build them in 1/72nd if they are anything like as detailed as the 1/48. That said, the biggest other problem is that there are sometimes little location mysteries when studying Tom's instructions. Have other references handy and try to study everything well ahead of time. Tom's brass is very thin, so it can be fragile. In 1/48th you have to shim out the brass portions of the body with card pieces cut to shape, I would think the brass thickness itself would be enough in 1/72nd, but I don't know for sure. If so, you would be spared what I thought was the hardest part in getting the card pieces cut to match the shape of the brass ones. Gluing the layers together and then sanding away anything that doesn't look like a Lewis gun needs to be done very carefully, if you aren't to damage the brass facing pieces. I did like the lighter look the Tom's Parabellum had for my Albatros C.III, relative to the way the Eduard kit brass looked. You don't end up folding the Tom's pieces much, except for rolling the jacket parts and turning up the sight blades. They are fiddly, and can be a major headache, but they do look good. .Mark. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:55 PM Subject: Tom's Modelworks Lewis' > Has anybody built the 1/72nd Tom's Modelworks p/e Lewis that can offer > some help/advice? I'm not satisfied with any of the resin and/or white > metal Lewis guns, so I'm thinking of building them up from the Tom's > sets. TIA! > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3080 **********************