WWI Digest 3077 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Virus Warning by Shane Weier 2) Re: Tomasz's mate and Sopwith Cookup by "cameron rile" 3) RE: Virus Warning by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 4) RE: news from Dominique Schloeser by Shane Weier 5) Eduard 2001 Kit Catalog by Todd Hayes 6) Re: Chance for a new SPAD V.II kit by Todd Hayes 7) Re: Brass tube help by Morg17ms@aol.com 8) Re: Brass tube help by Morg17ms@aol.com 9) Re: Brass tube help by Todd Hayes 10) Photo-etched struts and white glue by roguerpj 11) Shops in the Far East by knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 12) Re: Brass tube help by Morg17ms@aol.com 13) Otis Goodin by Todd Hayes 14) RE: Mac's Rolands & what's next by Volker Haeusler 15) RE: Web Update by Shane Weier 16) RE: Photo-etched struts and white glue 17) RE: Scale wars/ was OT contest report by Shane Weier 18) Query: Shrinkage of Mr. Surfacer? by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 19) Re: Brass tube help by "Tom Solinski" 20) Re: How Come.... by "TOM PLESHA" 21) RE: Query: Shrinkage of Mr. Surfacer? by Shane Weier 22) Re: Chance for a new SPAD V.II kit by David Fleming 23) RE: Web Update by Shane Weier 24) Re: Photo-etched struts and white glue 25) Re: Brass tube help by Morg17ms@aol.com 26) Re: Virus Warning by "DAVID BURKE" 27) Re: Photo-etched struts and white glue by MAnde72343@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:58:59 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Virus Warning Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748C1D@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> > > I'll check McAfee and AVERT to see what's up with this one. > > CERT is a national security organization - this report is valid I > assure you. FWIW here in far off Australia it first hit over a day ago. The security devices which protect our corporate email system have blocked 19,000 (yes, 19 thousand) infected emails in the last 29 hours. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:11:43 -0600 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Tomasz's mate and Sopwith Cookup Message-ID: <2641A0BA1F105D115A560005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com> Tomasz, >I'd like to ask you if we will accept external entries to Sopwith cookup. >One friend of mine is very eager to make a Camel contribution to the cookup, >but he is not subscribed. IMHO each "registered" entry provides more fun, >even if the modeler is not a listee. > >Any comments? Since he's your mate he is alright by me. I'd prefer not to make a habit of it though ;) as at the moment the only time I have to do the otprojects stuff is usually a sunday morning. So yeh it is ok for him to join in the cookup as far as I am concerned. >Also I'd like to claim my own cookup entries: > >Blue Max Snipe as Sapozhnikov's "Nelly" (according to photos) >Eduard Pup as Litte's N5182 (according to Cam Riley's profile) No worries, I would be wary of my profiles, not that they are deliberately inaccurate but my graphical skill often doesnt stretch as far in rendering them as I would like. I can send you the pic I used for it though. IIRC it is also on the Triplane Datafile. Bob would have more information on Little's mounts. cam AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:04:10 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: Subject: RE: Virus Warning Message-ID: Although not guaranteed to be 100% effective, just follow these simple rules: 1) Run an anti-virus program on your PC. 2) Keep your virus updates for the program current. 3) Do not open attached documents--download into a directory and scan them first. 4) Do not open email from an unknown or questionable scource--just delete it. 5) If using high speed connections (DSL, cable modem, etc), use a firewall program. 6) If you suspect an infection on your PC, clean it up so you don't contaminate others. Most of these email viruses are sent with captions such as "hey--look at this". The people I deal with don't write in this manner, so it is always a dead givaway. OT: Almost have the Eduard Pfalz DIIIa ready to paint--after I get done with this @#!!%$ algebra class in three weeks! Keeping it strictly an OOB project, decals and all. Paul (who, knock on wood, has never had a virus in over 12 years at a PC) -----Original Message----- From: MAnde72343@aol.com To go utterly ot, those of you who work with computers professionally may find viruses a minor irritation, but non programmers who have to use computers daily anyway find them , what I expect the nasty little geeks want, frustrating and hateful. I for one would support the death penalty for virus makers, but only if it could be a cruel method (to match the crime) Would microwaving alive be painful enough? Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:23:37 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: news from Dominique Schloeser Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748C1F@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Gaston, > Again no lady modeler. > > as always You'll get in trouble with the list ladies saying things like that. Forget Lorna, Sharon and Candice at your peril (and there may be others, I forget ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:26:03 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Eduard 2001 Kit Catalog Message-ID: <20010213222603.92483.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Colin Adair has informed me that Eduard has a new kit catalog for this year. He's sending me a copy. If you haven't seen earlier ones before, they are very beautiful and frequently contain kits that haven't been announced. I e-mailed him and he said he'd send me one, apparently at no cost. TH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:30:53 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Chance for a new SPAD V.II kit Message-ID: <20010213223053.19125.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> Craig, If you haven't found a copy of FMP's Russian book, Squadron has them listed at $39.99. They're in this month's flyer. If you don't get the flyer, the item # is FM1002. Shipping is $5.25. Todd --- Craig Gavin wrote: > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail > reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be > legible. > > --MS_Mac_OE_3064924504_8995766_MIME_Part > Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > > List members - For all of us who'd like to see a new > SPAD V.II offerd in > 1/72nd scale, here's your chance. Chris Gannon of > Pegasus Models says if > there's enough interest he'll give it a go (please > see below). So get thos= > e > e-mails going to him at > and maybe he'll actually > do one now that he's producing the SPAD X.II - Craig > Gavin =DD > > From: "Chris Gannon" > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:14:33 -0000 > To: "Craig Gavin" > Subject: Re: Thanks > > > Dear Craig, > > Thanks for your interest, I have amended the title > and reduced the items to > 10 / page to speed things up. If this continues to > be slow I'll reduce the > image size - I hate computers!!! > > Regards, > > Chris. > > P.S. If enough people want a SPAD VII - what the > hell I'll do it! > > > > > --MS_Mac_OE_3064924504_8995766_MIME_Part > Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" > Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Chance for a new SPAD V.II kit > > > List members - For all of us who'd like to see a new > SPAD V.II offerd in 1/= > 72nd scale, here's your chance.  Chris Gannon > of Pegasus Models says if= > there's enough interest he'll give it a go (please > see below).  So get= > those e-mails going to him at > <chris@pegasusmodels.com> and maybe he'= > ll actually do one now that he's producing the SPAD > X.II - Craig Gavin =DD
>

> From: "Chris Gannon" > <chris@pegasusmodels.com>
> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:14:33 -0000
> To: "Craig Gavin" > <cgavin@ipa.net>
> Subject: Re: Thanks
>
>

>
Dear Craig,
>
> Thanks for your interest, I have amended the title > and reduced the items to= > 10 / page to speed things up.  If this > continues to be slow I'll reduc= > e the image size - I hate computers!!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris.
>
> P.S. If enough people want a SPAD VII - what the > hell I'll do it!
>

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> > > > > --MS_Mac_OE_3064924504_8995766_MIME_Part-- > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:31:10 EST From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Brass tube help Message-ID: <24.1116e266.27bb0fae@aol.com> Matt, try Small Parts or even better, TLS International at www.holepop.com Tom Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:32:35 EST From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Brass tube help Message-ID: Hobby Hanger no longer in business. TLS stuff MUCH cheaper and in longer lengths. Tom Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:37:45 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Brass tube help Message-ID: <20010213223745.50151.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> Tom, TLS? Never heard of them before. Would you supply more info please? Todd --- Morg17ms@aol.com wrote: > Hobby Hanger no longer in business. TLS stuff MUCH > cheaper and in longer > lengths. > > Tom Morgan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:52:22 -0600 From: roguerpj To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Photo-etched struts and white glue Message-ID: <39ej8tonv76mnv7lcdt9vcqmf05kjsp2ga@4ax.com> Hi all, It has been a while since I posted here but I have been modeling away and scanning the digest. Anyway I wanted to ask those here a question. When thickening up photo etched struts with white glue do you apply the glue to both sides of the strut? Also, do you sand the white glue? rob johnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:49:01 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Shops in the Far East Message-ID: <200102132249.XAA90165@mail-relay.eunet.no> Hei, I am supposed to work in the Far East this year, firstly out of Brunei, but the company has offices in Singapore and Perth as well. Found a decent shop in Perth when I was there, but can some list members point to shops and other places of interest in Singapore and Brunei? Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:48:29 EST From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Brass tube help Message-ID: <27.1162d69f.27bb13bd@aol.com> I found them doing a search for fine brass tubing, a few months ago. They are some sort of electrical processing supplier - I really don't know what.....anyway, they sell brass tubing down to 0.3 mm diameter in 400 mm lengths in packages of 20. The sizes increase in increments of 0.1 mm up to 2.0 mm. Fantastic stuff to work with - I'm currently using some of the 0.8 mm stuff for the booms of my DH2. Check out their website - easy to order. Tom Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:49:52 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Otis Goodin Message-ID: <20010213224952.95949.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Otis, I got the goods today. Thanks. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 23:18:34 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Mac's Rolands & what's next Message-ID: Chris asked: "I'm guessing that's the extent of the differences between the D.VIa and D.VIb: engine, ailerons, and stabilizer (elevator, actually). Can anyone confirm that?" Yes, thatīs right: D III engine, small balanced areas for the ailerons and unbalanced elevators for the D VIa, Benz Bz IIIa engine, ailerons with larger balanced areas and balanced elevators for the D VIb. The last mentioned item (balanced alevators) was not followed 100 % - better check photos. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:49:04 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Web Update Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748C21@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Al has his priorities right... > OK, The webspace problem has been solved. I was able to clear > out a Meg of > non-web related files so we're in the clear for the forseable future. ...deleting all that work related craps so that there's space for more fun ! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:54:41 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Photo-etched struts and white glue Howdy! Good to see you Roger! Did you see your Colorful Pup decals in Fine Scale Modeler? Thanks a lot! They were put to good use. I just use paint for thickening struts. It's sandable. I've never tried white glue. Stay in touch, Brent -----Original Message----- From: roguerpj [mailto:roguerpj@black-hole.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:52 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Photo-etched struts and white glue Hi all, It has been a while since I posted here but I have been modeling away and scanning the digest. Anyway I wanted to ask those here a question. When thickening up photo etched struts with white glue do you apply the glue to both sides of the strut? Also, do you sand the white glue? rob johnson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:56:46 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Scale wars/ was OT contest report Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748C22@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Michael surveys my back and then.... > or even Shane > Weier's (yes, the D.Va on the wwi site). ....drives the knife home. I'm not a 1/72 modeller, really... > > However, if what you claim is true, this proves my point. > The judges hands > are forced since by your argument, a 1/48th Fokker D.VII must > be better than > a 1/72nd scale one, given they have the same amount of > errors. It's more > difficult to put the same detail in a 1/72nd scale kit so > forcing them into > the same category puts it at a disadvantage. It does, though it depends to some extent on the judges and the judging system. Mind you, when all the anomolies and arguments involved in trying to run model contests have been resolved into the perfect system, we'll be far too old to take advantage of it. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:58:19 EST From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Query: Shrinkage of Mr. Surfacer? Message-ID: Anyone observed shrinkage of Mr. Surfacer over time? How long has this product been available? Thanks, Steve di Giacomo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:07:09 -0600 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Brass tube help Message-ID: <002201c09611$b1e59f00$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> And that web site would be? Hmmm? Inquiring minds want to know Tom S OKC If you aren't making waves, you aren't making headway! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Brass tube help > I found them doing a search for fine brass tubing, a few months ago. They > are some sort of electrical processing supplier - I really don't know > what.....anyway, they sell brass tubing down to 0.3 mm diameter in 400 mm > lengths in packages of 20. The sizes increase in increments of 0.1 mm up to > 2.0 mm. Fantastic stuff to work with - I'm currently using some of the 0.8 > mm stuff for the booms of my DH2. Check out their website - easy to order. > > Tom Morgan > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:11:00 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: How Come.... Message-ID: <000701c09612$3b9d0da0$e55c570c@tom> Actually its Tom's Law, which states: "Murphy is optimistic". TP ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Fleming" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 1:20 PM Subject: Re: How Come.... > > > Allan Wright wrote: > > > The shit always hits the fan on a weekend? > > A derivation of Murphy's Law ? > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:12:27 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Query: Shrinkage of Mr. Surfacer? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748C24@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Steve, > Anyone observed shrinkage of Mr. Surfacer over time? Not really, but it's used for filling narrow gaps and scratches, meaning that any shrinkage is a percentage of a tiny amount and probably not visible. > How long has this product been available? I've been using it since before I left the Army, so at least 15 years. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:05:11 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Chance for a new SPAD V.II kit Message-ID: <3A89BDA6.F3AE4723@dial.pipex.com> Craig Gavin wrote: > > > List members - For all of us who'd like to see a new SPAD V.II offerd in > 1/72nd scale, here's your chance. Chris Gannon of Pegasus Models says if > there's enough interest he'll give it a go (please see below). So get thos= > e > e-mails going to him at and maybe he'll actually > do one now that he's producing the SPAD X.II - Craig Gavin =DD > Now, no spamming Matt !! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:16:24 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Web Update Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748C25@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Alan, > Both accomplished modelers. > Gabriele's scratch built Caproni is breathtaking for sure. That's IT. I give up. My POS will never look that good whatever scale Gabriele builds in. Look at it folks. Awesome work which sure as hell intimidates *me* Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:32:01 -0600 From: roguerpj To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Photo-etched struts and white glue Brent, It is good to be back. Paint???? Describe the process please. No I didn't see the colorful pup. Got any pics I can see? rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:41:46 EST From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Brass tube help Message-ID: <53.25273bc.27bb203a@aol.com> www.holepop.com Tom Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:03:56 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Virus Warning Message-ID: <006501c0961a$2e2274a0$39121a3f@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Wright" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Virus Warning > > Those of us who saw the site go down this last weekend!!!! > > (Allan, DON'T leave yerself open like that!!) > > OK next time the list goes down on the weekend I'll come in and fix it. > I'll send you my bill :-) > > BTW, I get $150/hr and time and a half for Saturday, Double time for Sunday. > > Allan Now THAT'S reasonable! :-) DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:14:40 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Photo-etched struts and white glue Message-ID: --part1_fb.119aed10.27bb27f0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, but one side at a time, and yes to sanding, although it's rarely necessary, if you take your time with the build up. Merrill --part1_fb.119aed10.27bb27f0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, but one side at a time, and yes to sanding, although it's rarely
necessary, if you take your time with the build up.
Merrill

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