WWI Digest 3066 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Uniforms by Shane Weier 2) RE: Dimes and 5c pieces [was RE: Saturdays] by Shane Weier 3) RE: Eduard 1/72nd scale 2001 planned releases by Shane Weier 4) RE: How big is your interest into the early battles of the Great by Shane Weier 5) Flying qualities of the BM RAF SE-5a by Shane Weier 6) RE: Knights of the Air - Canadian by "Ray Boorman" 7) Re: Knights of the Air - Canadian by "Bob Pearson" 8) Re: Kits for Kids update by "Alberto Casirati" 9) the battles was RE: Uniforms by "Gaston Graf" 10) RE: Eduard 1/72nd scale 2001 planned releases by "Michael Kendix" 11) RE: WWI Uniforms by "Diego Fernetti" 12) Re: How big is your interest into the early battles of the Great War? by "Diego Fernetti" 13) RE: How big is your interest into the early battles of the Great by "Michael Kendix" 14) Re: Kits for Kids update by "Diego Fernetti" 15) Re: Flying qualities of the BM RAF SE-5a by "Steven M.Perry" 16) Re: Eduard 1/72nd scale 2001 planned releases by "Francisca e Pedro Soares" 17) Re: Kits for Kids update by Rob & Sherry 18) Re: How big is your interest into the early battles of the Great by Ernest Thomas 19) Re: Flying qualities of the BM RAF SE-5a by Ernest Thomas 20) I Have Returned ... by "Dale Beamish" 21) Re: I Have Returned ... by "Steven M.Perry" 22) Re: I Have Returned ... by "Lee J. Mensinger" 23) Re: I Have Returned ... by "Dale Beamish" 24) RE: Eduard 1/72nd scale 2001 planned releases by "Jim Landon" 25) Re: Aeroclub BE2c? by "Limon3" 26) Re: the battles was RE: Uniforms by "Limon3" 27) Re: I Have Returned ... by "Limon3" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:22:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Uniforms Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748BEB@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> James, > 1. British Officers (love those Sam Browne belts.) Plenty of armies used Sam Browne belts. Still do for that matter Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:30:03 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Dimes and 5c pieces [was RE: Saturdays] Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748BEC@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Cam says: > > Same as a sixpence once was. > > The US Dime is about the same size and width as > an Australian 5c piece. Okay, but the point was that putting a coin in a photo is a usefull reference only for those resident in the country of origin of the coin - and using a "dime" and saying Same size as 5c Australian a trifle smaeller than 1 kina 2.5 public hairs larger than (Old) sixpence a bees butt smaller than a 3 dinero etc... ...is all kind of complicated compared to a section of ruler with *Imperial* inches on one side for the Americans and centimetres on the other for the rest :-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:33:51 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Eduard 1/72nd scale 2001 planned releases Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748BED@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt, > > Presumably the Hanriots are the result of some serious > > prayer on the part of > > Matt Bittner, unless someone's been working on a Hanriot > > scratch build. > > No, although I can't wait for the HD.1, all my prayers have been for a > Nieuport 17... :-) > Won't happen. I've offered up to the Gods a set of 1/72 Nie17 plans and pile of references stacked on plasticard sheets and Aeroclub wheels (by putting them in my "scratchbuild box") Now unless I get part way through making one, they have no reason to be cruel to me. And I don't intend to tempt them ! :-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:42:32 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: How big is your interest into the early battles of the Great Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748BEE@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Gaston, > What I now want to ask you is written in the subject line: > How big is your > interest into the early battles of the Great War? Would you > buy a book about > this chapter of WW1? I did. The author, Barbara Tuchmann (sp?) won her first Pulitzer prize for it. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:46:05 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Flying qualities of the BM RAF SE-5a Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748BEF@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> ....not bad. But the landing qualities are terrible. Strike one kit from the completed pile into the "reduced to parts" pile :-( Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:20:35 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: Knights of the Air - Canadian Message-ID: > Bob Pearson wrote > > Isn't that XXXXXXXXX ? Later killed in the crash (under mysterious > circumstances) of a Fokker D.VII. He had been an infantry major > until he was > shot in the butt and then transfered to the air service where he became a > high scoring ace > > Anyone have any guesses as to who this is. .. I'll give it a guess, May 22nd 1919 Major Albert Desbrisay Carter in a captured DVII Ray ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:47:58 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Knights of the Air - Canadian Message-ID: <200102100849.AAA02921@mail.rapidnet.net> and a cookie to Ray. ... any idea what the mysterious circumstance and accompanying rumour was? Bob ---------- >From: "Ray Boorman" >> Bob Pearson wrote >> >> Isn't that XXXXXXXXX ? Later killed in the crash (under mysterious >> circumstances) of a Fokker D.VII. He had been an infantry major >> until he was >> shot in the butt and then transfered to the air service where he became a >> high scoring ace >> >> Anyone have any guesses as to who this is. .. > > I'll give it a guess, May 22nd 1919 Major Albert Desbrisay Carter in a > captured DVII > > Ray ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:21:15 +0100 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Kits for Kids update Message-ID: <003901c09342$ebd36c00$390c623e@s> Dear Steven, thanks for sharing the relevant e-mail messages with us. I am most happy to know that our efforts led to good resul ts ! Thanks for what you have done, which is the most. Alberto ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:42:38 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: the battles was RE: Uniforms Message-ID: Friends, yesterday I posted a question asking you about your interest into the early battles of WW1 but downloading my mail now didn't even contain a single reply to that message so I am now wondering if: 1) there is no interest at all 2) or if that message maybe wasn't delivered to the list sincerely Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Shane Weier > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 7:28 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Uniforms > > > James, > > > 1. British Officers (love those Sam Browne belts.) > > Plenty of armies used Sam Browne belts. Still do for that matter > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > ********************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:09:24 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Eduard 1/72nd scale 2001 planned releases Message-ID: >From: Shane Weier >Matt, > > > > Presumably the Hanriots are the result of some serious > > > prayer on the part of > > > Matt Bittner, unless someone's been working on a Hanriot > > > scratch build. > > > > No, although I can't wait for the HD.1, all my prayers have been for a > > Nieuport 17... :-) > > > >Won't happen. I've offered up to the Gods a set of 1/72 Nie17 plans and > >pile of references stacked on plasticard sheets and Aeroclub wheels (by > >putting them in my "scratchbuild box") Shane: Even if you started on it, it would probably do no good. Alberto "virtually" scratchbuilt one in FSM to no avail, except he made a great model but that goes without saying. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:18:49 -0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: WWI Uniforms Message-ID: Nigel: > >Whoops, sorry Diego. I assumed too much, knowing of Eric's love of >dressing > >up (and the fact he likes uniforms). Mind you, because we have so many >nice > >people on the list, you can take it as a compliment to be mistaken for >Eric! > >And Eric can feel flattered that I confused him with you.. No troubles at all, since it's flattering to think that Eric and me are birds of a feather. Some years ago I started a small collection of militaria with my father and on a whim I buyed once a WW2 army officer's uniform -I have it stored- but later I only bought helmets and my dad preferred edged weapons, so our small collection never grew on the clothing dept. > >BTW, how's that lovely Albatros DII coming on Diego? I keep checking back >to > >the site to see progress...... Well, the Albatros is painted and decalled, all major subassemblies done, just as it was 2 1/2 months ago... I stopped on that project when the busy december started and later I don't felt like resuming it. I think I'll took pictures of it before assembly and write some more for the Cook Up pages, and when the temperatures here in the southern end will be more benign I'll do the final chores. thanks for your interest D. PS: I changed the markings I intended when started the cookup... they were for a late model D.II and I wanted an early model. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:22:25 -0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: How big is your interest into the early battles of the Great War? Message-ID: >How big is your >interest into the early battles of the Great War? Would you buy a book >about >this chapter of WW1? Gaston! I'd love to have a book as the one you describe. And more yet if I can contact the author to ask him silly questions ;-) Alors, mon ami, ecrivez! D. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:22:56 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: How big is your interest into the early battles of the Great Message-ID: >From: Shane Weier > >Gaston, > > > What I now want to ask you is written in the subject line: > > How big is your interest into the early battles of the Great War? >Would >you buy a book about this chapter of WW1? > >I did. The author, Barbara Tuchmann (sp?) won her first Pulitzer prize >for >it. Shane: I maintain her stuff is boring and reads as if she's paid by the word. I read the first 60 or so pages of "Proud Tower" and found it utterly madenning. Her long descriptions of the coming out balls and what the upper classes wore, Lord Salisbury's unkempt beard, etc., were frustrating. I also tried to read "The Guns of August" and encountered a similar problem. She focuses on what I would call the "Commercial stuff" - in other words, much like one of these "Period piece" films that appeal to those who want to make-believe life is full of rich people flouncing around in evening dress, going to fox hunts and never actually holding a job. The fact she won a Pulitzer means that Abraham Lincolm was right. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:25:07 -0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Kits for Kids update Message-ID: Steve: Even if I wasn't involved with this group project, I can help feeling very glad with the contriution that the group has made to those potential modelers/historians. I would have wished to receive such a gift when I was in school. An applause for all those who participated! D. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:31:15 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Flying qualities of the BM RAF SE-5a Message-ID: <002b01c09365$beea9b00$04f1aec7@default> > > > ...not bad. But the landing qualities are terrible. > > Strike one kit from the completed pile into the "reduced to parts" pile :-( > > Shane Bummer dude! Know the feeling. Before, you could have listed all the model's imperfections, now all you can think about is the good parts. Just think of it as another kit in the todo pile. A strangely engineered, prepainted but buildable kit. Just try not to collect to many from the same "manufacturer". sp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 01:05:32 -0000 From: "Francisca e Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Eduard 1/72nd scale 2001 planned releases Message-ID: <000301c09367$01114f00$ccf441c2@pc1> Diego, Take a look at what skippy has done with it. Eduard or no Eduard, a modeler is a modeler!!! Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: dfernet0 To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:07 PM Subject: RE: Eduard 1/72nd scale 2001 planned releases > Michael informed us: > > >Here is a listing of what we have planed for this year. > > .. > > >1/72 > > >7022 Fokker E III > > >7023 Fokker E III Profipack > > Aghhhh! Just when some months ago got the OOP Revell kit! :-( > > D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:45:12 -0500 From: Rob & Sherry To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Kits for Kids update Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010210084512.00959a50@pop-server.tampabay.rr.com> Good job Steve! I am sure these kids will have a great time building the kits with their fathers. Thank you :) Rob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:06:27 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: How big is your interest into the early battles of the Great Message-ID: <3A854AE3.E34873BC@bellsouth.net> Michael Kendix wrote: > > much like one of these "Period piece" films that appeal to those who want to > make-believe life is full of rich people flouncing around in evening dress, > going to fox hunts and never actually holding a job. You mean it's NOT? E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:07:07 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Flying qualities of the BM RAF SE-5a Message-ID: <3A854B0B.EB015C83@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > > ...not bad. But the landing qualities are terrible. > > Strike one kit from the completed pile into the "reduced to parts" pile Bummer of the summer, dude. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 07:08:14 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: I Have Returned ... Message-ID: <004801c0936b$214f4200$b22eb8a1@darcy> I apologize for any delay in getting in touch with anyone that has been trying to contact me. After a MAJOR readjustment on the domestic scene, (aka know how ya feel Steve ) the computer is one of the first things I've managed to get out of the house! The kits I'm afraid were another casualty of war! And I had a 48 scale Roland DVI that was going to grab ya all on the go! Never the less I have returned. Again sorry for the delay. Dale ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:57:08 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: I Have Returned ... Message-ID: <005601c09371$be041520$04f1aec7@default> After a MAJOR readjustment on the domestic scene, (aka > know how ya feel Steve ) Not a feeling I wanted to share. :-( Tend to first things first and let the modeling juices stew, and when you're finally ready, you'll enjoy the hobby even more. Real glad to see you back up on the List sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:03:02 -0600 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: I Have Returned ... Message-ID: <3A855826.4BFC5BE7@x25.net> Sorry to hear you have had domestic problems. Mine came 52 years ago but the second try worked very much better and next year is our 50th anniversary. Glad to have you back. Lee M Dale Beamish wrote: > I apologize for any delay in getting in touch with anyone that has been > trying to contact me. After a MAJOR readjustment on the domestic scene, (aka > know how ya feel Steve ) the computer is one of the first things I've > managed to get out of the house! > > The kits I'm afraid were another casualty of war! And I had a 48 scale > Roland DVI that was going to grab ya all on the go! > > Never the less I have returned. Again sorry for the delay. > Dale ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:04:09 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: I Have Returned ... Message-ID: <006601c09372$b9b9f2e0$b22eb8a1@darcy> Thanks Steve ... good to be back. Dale > After a MAJOR readjustment on the domestic scene, (aka > > know how ya feel Steve ) > > Not a feeling I wanted to share. :-( > > Tend to first things first and let the modeling juices stew, and when you're > finally ready, you'll enjoy the hobby even more. > > Real glad to see you back up on the List > > sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:05:00 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Eduard 1/72nd scale 2001 planned releases Message-ID: Michael said <> Different strokes for different folks. I use almost nothing but 5 minute epoxy on the Salmson. Not that I would on a "Mr. Tinyplanes" model. But I hate what SOMETIMES happens to plastic when you use liquid or tube glue that bonds by melting the plastic together. Except when I built the plexiglas display case for the Tommy. That was really cool how the liquid bonded the Plexi and made nearly invisible joints. Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:13:27 -0800 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: Aeroclub BE2c? Message-ID: <000801c0937c$674b74c0$31f7303f@f4w2s5> Hi Jon, You're not going crazy, there should be a very nice white metal camera in the kit. Gabe -----Original Message----- From: JVT7532@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, February 09, 2001 9:27 PM Subject: Aeroclub BE2c? >I remember reading some post awhile back about this Aeroclub BE2c kit and >mention of a very nice camera that came with it. I received my kit today from >Sierra Scale which was very quick to fill my order BTW, however I have >checked the contents and can find no camera inside, the instructions do >mention that a camera is included but that is all. Am I right in thinking >that there's supposed to be a camera or not? Thanks for the help. > > Best Regards, > Jon >Jon V. Theisen >7532 Lawndale Ave. >Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:20:33 -0800 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: the battles was RE: Uniforms Message-ID: <002901c0937d$653f0d80$31f7303f@f4w2s5> Don't worry, Gaston, it came through fine. I haven't had time to reply, but I have always been fascinated by this period of the First Big One. It was still a war of movement, and not the bloody stalemate it became later. BTW, I just read an article about another famous Luxembourgeois, Charly Gaul. I have done some bicycle riding up in your area, and always found it difficult to believe that such a great climber could develop in such a relatively flat country. In any case, keep up the great work on your website. Regards, Gabe -----Original Message----- From: Gaston Graf To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, February 10, 2001 1:43 AM Subject: the battles was RE: Uniforms >Friends, > >yesterday I posted a question asking you about your interest into the early >battles of WW1 but downloading my mail now didn't even contain a single >reply to that message so I am now wondering if: > > 1) there is no interest at all > 2) or if that message maybe wasn't delivered to the list > >sincerely > > Gaston Graf >(ggraf@vo.lu) >Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: >http://www.jastaboelcke.de > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of >> Shane Weier >> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 7:28 AM >> To: Multiple recipients of list >> Subject: RE: Uniforms >> >> >> James, >> >> > 1. British Officers (love those Sam Browne belts.) >> >> Plenty of armies used Sam Browne belts. Still do for that matter >> >> Shane >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ********************************************************************** >> The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is >> intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >> If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or >> copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to >> forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the >> MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. >> >> e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au >> phone: Australia 1800500646 >> ********************************************************************** >> > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:24:03 -0800 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: I Have Returned ... Message-ID: <004201c0937d$e2aa98c0$31f7303f@f4w2s5> Hey Dale, Sorry to hear of your troubles, but I'm glad to see you back in the realm of total insanity! Regards, Gabe -----Original Message----- From: Dale Beamish To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, February 10, 2001 6:11 AM Subject: I Have Returned ... >I apologize for any delay in getting in touch with anyone that has been >trying to contact me. After a MAJOR readjustment on the domestic scene, (aka >know how ya feel Steve ) the computer is one of the first things I've >managed to get out of the house! > >The kits I'm afraid were another casualty of war! And I had a 48 scale >Roland DVI that was going to grab ya all on the go! > >Never the less I have returned. Again sorry for the delay. >Dale > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3066 **********************