WWI Digest 3048 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Check out "PFALZ_Dxii.jpg" by Shane Weier 2) RE: Hello by Shane Weier 3) Re: Updated links by Dennis Ugulano 4) RE: HD.3 progress by Shane Weier 5) Re: OT tank horror story by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 6) Fabric question for the List by "DAVID BURKE" 7) RE: Caproni/Shane? by Shane Weier 8) Avro 504 from A-Model by knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 9) Re: RE: Check out "PFALZ_Dxii.jpg" by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 10) RE: HD.3 progress by "Matt Bittner" 11) Halberstadt DIII, Cyg's kit by fedders 12) Caudron G3 and G4 kits by AJP by fedders 13) Re: Halberstadt DIII, Cyg's kit by "Steven M.Perry" 14) Captured Strutter by "Michael Kendix" 15) 1/48 OT Pilot and Crew Figures by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 16) Roden Gotha by MAnde72343@aol.com 17) RE: 1/48 OT Pilot and Crew Figures by Shane Weier 18) RE: 1/48 OT Pilot and Crew Figures by Todd Hayes 19) Re: 1/48 OT Pilot and Crew Figures by Sixmilfigs@cs.com 20) Re: Fabric question for the List by RadspadMike@netscape.net 21) Modeler's Pout by "Steven M.Perry" 22) Re: Fabric question for the List by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 23) Re: 1/48 OT Pilot and Crew Figures by MAnde72343@aol.com 24) Re: 1/48 OT Pilot and Crew Figures by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 25) Re: Captured Strutter by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 26) Re: Fabric question for the List by "DAVID BURKE" 27) Re: Captured Strutter by "Michael Kendix" 28) Re: Fabric question for the List by RadspadMike@netscape.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:13:32 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Check out "PFALZ_Dxii.jpg" Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748B83@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Michael, > >Did I miss the start of a thread > >while I was list banished? > > Nothing much really. Just a 1/48th scale Caproni Bomber to > be issued by > Hasegawa this summer, and Arsenal moved back to Woolwich, > where they belong > on the other side of the river (sorry Len). Okay, that's another one OFF my Christmas card list :-| Harrumph. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:18:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Hello Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748B84@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Gaston, > > FWIW Dominique is *not* a member of the list - you don't need to > > be a member > > in order to post messages to pease1.sr.unh.edu. > uuurgs.....thanks for the info. I did not know that yet. > It was just a "for info" to save everyone sending replies to the list which wouldn't be read by the intended recipient. I'm carrying on an offline conversation now to explain how to properly subscribe Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:28:58 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Updated links Message-ID: <200102051729_MC2-C45C-8C83@compuserve.com> Matt, >> as well as updated Dennis' URL. Dennis, thank you. I truly dislike xoom/nbci, so I'm glad you moved your site. << Thank you for your never ending work keeping this page up and running. I do most of my own code and moving things around and I know what a difficult job you have. I was never happy with xoom myself but the price was right. Like they say, you get what you pay for. But Tech Support has her domain and she wanted me to move. I'm very happy with the move. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 2/1/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:40:34 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: HD.3 progress Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748B87@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt complains: > sprayed the undersides aluminum last night (after having a major brain > cramp and spraying them ecru - DOH!) That's from thinking too small, like getting cramped feet from undersized shoes. Buy a bigger HD.3 son. You're old enough now..... Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:45:52 EST From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: mvj@thetelegram.com, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OT tank horror story Message-ID: <8f.6819223.27b08720@aol.com> Well, I guess you wouldn't want to butler here. Howling wind and driving snow. Where's the yetti? ~Steve In a message dated 2/5/1 3:49:26 PM, mvj@thetelegram.com writes: << MVJ Heading home to prepare for tomorrow's blizzard. 35 cms of snow and 110km/h winds at latest forecast A big fat sarcastic Yippee. . .I'll have to shovel out and come to work anyway - the news never sleeps dagnab it - and then shovel my way in whenever -if ever - I get home again. Anyopne in warmer climes fancy an immigrant butler? I already have the snobby British accent ;-) pray for me. MVJ >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:09:43 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Fabric question for the List Message-ID: <007501c08fc8$bdf5af00$11f91c3f@oemcomputer> Hi Kids: While contemplating my attempt on Stark's D.VII, I was struck by a thought (which was in turn, tied to a rock): the Fokker aircraft were constructed mainly of tubing, and the fabric was pulled on like a sock and the stiching at the underside was tightened. Now, would the 'sock' of loz fabric also incorporate underside lozenge fabric? In other words, would the undersurfaces of the Fokker D.VII's fuselage have under- or upper-surface loz? If it did, how was it set up so that the demarcation would fall exactly on that lower fuselage beam? Or was there a sort of overlap of upper-surface color on the underside, like you see with a Fokker Dr.1, or british A/C? Orwas the whole 'sock' made of Upper-surface orunder-surface loz? TIA! DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:26:13 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Caproni/Shane? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748B88@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Jon, > > Hi Shane, has the Caproni stuff that I mailed you arrived yet? > Not yet - takes about 8-10 days normally, though I've been waiting on a cheque from Canada for a month :-( Maybe it's the snow Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:28:53 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Avro 504 from A-Model Message-ID: <200102052328.AAA43170@mail-relay.eunet.no> >dfernet0 wrote: >> There's no cure fot the old Airfix model but to scratchbuild a fuselage from >> the raw. >Dave wrote >Why ? a shim of plastic card on the underside cures the biggest problem, and the >kit has sooo much conversion potential - Avro 504A-N, various later Avros, >Cierva C6 & C8 autogiros etc ? >Interested to hear why you have such a downer on the Airfix kit ? In my opinion, the Airfix fuselage do not look right compared to any of the two original Avro 504s I have studied and photographed. Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:45:40 EST From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: RE: Check out "PFALZ_Dxii.jpg" Message-ID: Steve sat still, and then, slowly began his slight rocking back and forth motion which was his normal way of showing the whirling internal angst which composed the soil for his thoughts, and after a few moments' thought - in the way any schizophrenic thinks - "...um . . . well . . . just . . . w-w-white struts . . . he-he *grunt*. . . you know . . . white (he-he) . . . struts . . . struts . . . not everybody knows that the struts were white. . . even some people build models of them and don't know that the struts are . . . *shriek* he-he . . . white . . . w-wh-wh-white . . . white struts . . . everybody should know" In a message dated 2/5/1 5:29:15 PM, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << > >Did I miss the start of a thread > >while I was list banished? > > Nothing much really. Just a 1/48th scale Caproni Bomber to > be issued by > Hasegawa this summer, and Arsenal moved back to Woolwich, > where they belong > on the other side of the river (sorry Len). >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 17:49:28 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: HD.3 progress Message-ID: <200102052349.PAA01544@goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:56:30 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier wrote: > Buy a bigger HD.3 son. You're old enough now..... :-P``` ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:19:42 -0600 (CST) From: fedders To: models Subject: Halberstadt DIII, Cyg's kit Message-ID: I have recently completed making a Halberstadt DIII from John Cyg's kit. A photo is posted on the web site - St. Louis section ( I think). The kit is excellent. Very accurate and not difficult to build. Two words of warning. 1) It is very busy where the exhaust leaves the engine an goes up very close to the front of the top wing. There is also radiator plumbing and a strut there. Windsock mentions that the actual ariplane was very cramped or busy there - a lot of stuff packed into a small space. Just be aware of the problem. 2) The top wing is correctly very thin. Further, there is a partial gap between the halves of the top wing where the struts from the fuselage come in. You need a gap or at least a trench there to look right. Thus there is very little area to glue the wing halves together and would be very little even without the center trench or gap. I destroyed one wing before I realized this. Then I drilled samll holes in each half of the top wing and connected the halves with stainless steel rod (wire). This made a very stable structure. Incidentally, that is how I almost always attach lower wings to the fuselage - this idea come from constructing a large number of vacs where you need the rod for strength. pater ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:31:49 -0600 (CST) From: fedders To: models Subject: Caudron G3 and G4 kits by AJP Message-ID: Fellow Modelers I have just posted a Caudron G3 and G4 made from the AJP 1/48 brass and hideously expensive kits. The pictures should be (I hope) in the St. Louis collection. Both kits are difficult and time consuming to construct but I have seen worse. The directions with the G3 are much better than with the G4 and I am not sure that I could have made the G4 without first having constructed the G3! Wings: I bent the front part over a dowel to round them to a reasonable airfoil. The actual aircraft had very thin airfoils although the camber is substantial. Thus the thin brass works well. After bending, I covered the top and bottom with .010 in plastic instead of paper. I though that I could never get the kit right with paper. Fuselage nacelle: similarly covered on the outside with 0.01 inch plastic. Booms: I thicked the booms (but not the struts between them) with plastic card so they were approximately square in cross section. Not a fast operation. Putting the top wing on was moderately difficult - made easier becaue the thickened wing had more depth to receive the strut stubs. The rigging is an important structural part of the model as well as the actual aircraft. Generally I used long pieces of so called "invisible thread", about 0.006 in thick. I started at the fuselage and looped it around a strut and then put on a drop of super glue - then went to the next strut with the same piece of thread. etc etc I was pleased with the results - much better than I expected. I obviously would have prefered and injection or resin kit or even a vac. However, to my knowledge, they do not exist in 1/48. In fact, except for AJP, I don't know of any manufacturer that makes Caudrons, Voisins, or Vickers. peter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:38:53 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Halberstadt DIII, Cyg's kit Message-ID: <003501c08fd5$2ee8f940$52f2aec7@default> Very nice Halb, Peter! You did a good job joining that turtleback to the flat fuselage top. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 01:21:51 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Captured Strutter Message-ID: The Toko 2-seater has decals for a captured Strutter #1913. In the Datafile on page 12 (top left) is a picture of the same but #A 1914. I'm wondering whether the Toko kit is incorrect. Also, does anyone have any information on the colour scheme for 1914 (or 1913)? In other words, was the thing painted PC-10 on its top and sides with CDL on the lower surfaces? 1914 looks like it has the top wing with the cut-out in the centre. This too is different from the Toko kit. Fortunately, I have saved the extra wing with the cut out from the Flashback 2-seater. Finally, since I'm thinking of doing this "Captured" theme, does anyone know of a German subject that was captured and painted in an allied colour, aside from that ridiculous scheme on the Pfalz D.XII at the NASM? TIA. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:31:14 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: 1/48 OT Pilot and Crew Figures Message-ID: Hi Folks, Does anyone know of a source for 1/48th scale OT pilots and crews??? I can't seem to locate any more Jaguar figures as I think they are out of production. Any help is appreciated. Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:51:51 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Roden Gotha Message-ID: <4f.710794b.27b0b2b7@aol.com> --part1_4f.710794b.27b0b2b7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Roll says he has the Gothas, (hopefully mine will be waiting for me Saturday), Whoopee! He says it looks pretty good. Merrill --part1_4f.710794b.27b0b2b7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Roll says he has the Gothas, (hopefully mine will be waiting for me
Saturday), Whoopee! He says it looks pretty good.
Merrill

--part1_4f.710794b.27b0b2b7_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 12:05:55 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: 1/48 OT Pilot and Crew Figures Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748B8C@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> John, > > Hi Folks, > Does anyone know of a source for 1/48th scale OT pilots and crews??? I > can't seem to locate any more Jaguar figures as I think they > are out of > production. > Any help is appreciated. I have several sets from (I think) CMK I don't know whether they're still in production though Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:10:39 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: 1/48 OT Pilot and Crew Figures Message-ID: <20010206021039.11123.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> I think Squadron still has them. Todd --- Shane Weier wrote: > John, > > > > > Hi Folks, > > Does anyone know of a source for 1/48th scale OT > pilots and crews??? I > > can't seem to locate any more Jaguar figures as I > think they > > are out of > > production. > > Any help is appreciated. > > I have several sets from (I think) CMK > > I don't know whether they're still in production > though > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is > confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, > distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are > requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to > the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > ********************************************************************** __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:29:50 EST From: Sixmilfigs@cs.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/48 OT Pilot and Crew Figures Message-ID: <16.86bd4ef.27b0bb9e@cs.com> John, Take a look at Czechmaster (or CMK). They make four different sets, two German, one British, and one French, each coming with two figures. Roll Models carries them, but I am sure they are available elsewhere as well. If you are interested in an Austrian subject, Hecker and Goros has a figure of Linke-Crawford that should be available soon. Check out http://www.redlancers.com. From Miniatures, go to page three. There is a pic there. Looks pretty good. While not on their site, I know that H-G makes several more OT figs. The catalog lists them there. Shawn Kennedy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 21:41:51 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fabric question for the List Message-ID: <3044700F.36E30D84.3E0364A1@netscape.net> wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu wrote:  In other words, would the > undersurfaces of the Fokker D.VII's fuselage have under- or upper-surface > loz?  If it did, how was it set up so that the demarcation would fall > exactly on that lower fuselage beam?  Or was there a sort of overlap of > upper-surface color on the underside, like you see with a Fokker Dr.1, or > british A/C?  Orwas the whole 'sock' made of Upper-surface orunder-surface loz? Hi Dave, Never knew Fokker D.VII fuselage covering was installed like a "sock".  I always envisioned a group of people standing around the fuselage frame, cutting and sewing the fabric together over and to the frame.  Must have been thinking of that photo showing a number of women sewing rib tapes onto a covered wing. The profiles of Stark's D.VII on page 24 of the Windsock Fokker D.VII Anthology 2 shows that under surface lozenge was used on the bottom of the fuselage upper surface lozenge on the top and sides.  What is confusing to me when considering the "sock" method, are the lozenge covering diagrams for 4- and 5-color lozenge on page 25 of the same book.  A diagram shows a bolt of 4-color lozenge being laid across the top of the fuselage at 90 degrees to the centerline with a notation, "4 colour lozenge on fuselage. Middle of bolt was aligned with the fuselage centre line." In an article, "Dave Roberts Offers Some Final Thoughts on Fokker Fabric Covering Practices", in the Fokker D.VII Anthology No.1, page 64, Roberts says, "A cutter would do several top and side sets while he or she had the roll on the table, then the same number of under surface sets and they would be combined from (sic) a pool of panels in the sewing shop." From this you would believe they used patterns when cutting the panels of fabric - - which doesn't square with laying a bolt of fabric across the top of the fuselage so that the middle of the bolt aligns with the center line. Afraid I haven't helped much. Probably raised more questions. Will some knowledgeable listed enlighten us? TIA, Mike K. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:54:03 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Modeler's Pout Message-ID: <006c01c08fe8$11ae63c0$52f2aec7@default> We've discussed AMS, Modeler's block and now Michael has diagnosed "Modeler's Cycling Disease #1". I'd like to add Modeler's Pout (MP) to the list. I was adding the lower wings to my D.II and ended up snapping off the stab as a reward for not paying attention to what I was doing. Instant activation of the Piss Off Button. "Six freaking months work #$%^&*(@#$%^&*( " Next, the immediate and fruitless search for someone else to blame, (the dog had fled at the sound of: Crack...#$%6$%^&*%^&*). The sorrid realization that I...Master Modeler I... was the sole culprit and author of my current discomforture. Then the thoughts of getting rig of all my kits and sentencing myself to building BvB her dollhouse. Then the squizzy at the "junk".... well not toooo bad. Well, yeah I can fix that...just a bit of touch up here and.. ah.. yeah, there too. Ok I got lucky. So its been 24 hours since I figured out it was fixable, why haven't I fixed it? Simple....Modeler's Pout sp Who is wondering if Matt And Allan are going to put a new page on the site dealing with syndromes, blocks and other mental abberations brought on by styrene exposure. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:22:16 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: Subject: Re: Fabric question for the List Message-ID: <007301c08fec$0e692700$7f01010a@jaring.my> There is a good article on the "Fokker D VII Covering practices" by Dan San Abbot in WW I Aero no 102. In general, it is claimed in there that: - the fuselage covering was done as a "sock" (or sack) - it consisted of 5 pieces (2 sides, upper, 2 lower to meet in the center) that were pre-assembled and then attached to the fuselage in a specified manner - lower fuselage covering was light, upper and sides dark pattern - there were some special practices for the different manufacturers to orient the bolts in the pattern Also included are some drawings showing the practices. This article plus one on Albatros Fokker D VII's in the same issue and one on Fokker build D VII's in WW I Aero no 107 give rather complete picture on the factory finishes. Too, Personally, I wonder wether there was a 100 % adherance to this pattern, especially in view of the many changes in covering practice and the scarcity of materials. So Dicta Ira applies again... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 22:23:06 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/48 OT Pilot and Crew Figures Message-ID: <20.11a3b55a.27b0c81a@aol.com> --part1_20.11a3b55a.27b0c81a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Linke-Crawford figure is out, I saw it last fall at Chicago. Merrill --part1_20.11a3b55a.27b0c81a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Linke-Crawford figure is out, I saw it last fall at Chicago.
Merrill

--part1_20.11a3b55a.27b0c81a_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 22:30:06 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/48 OT Pilot and Crew Figures Message-ID: <20.11a4e1b2.27b0c9be@aol.com> In a message dated 2/5/2001 8:33:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, John_Impenna@hyperion.com writes: << Hi Folks, Does anyone know of a source for 1/48th scale OT pilots and crews??? I >> John, check Rosemont, I bought a great Pilot & Observer from him in this scale. Best Regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:37:38 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: Subject: Re: Captured Strutter Message-ID: <00a701c08fee$2ae1bf80$7f01010a@jaring.my> Michael, you wondered: > The Toko 2-seater has decals for a captured Strutter #1913. In the Datafile > on page 12 (top left) is a picture of the same but #A 1914. > I'm wondering whether the Toko kit is incorrect. > I have some photos of at least two captured strutters at home. Will check them when coming back from work and mail them tp you > Finally, since I'm thinking of doing this "Captured" theme, does anyone know > of a German subject that was captured and painted in an allied colour, aside > from that ridiculous scheme on the Pfalz D.XII at the NASM? There was a good article on a repainted Albatros D Va in a Cross and Cockade International magazine. Can' tell which one because I'm not at home at this moment. Showed at least three or four stages of repainting and modification. There are also two Pfalz D III (Pollinger/Jasta 77b and Hegeler/Jasta 15, IIRC) documented in full British markings, as well as a Fokker E III. Different Fokker D VII's as well. Then there is the famous triplane in French markings with a Nieuport cowling. Various two seaters too - the choice is very wide. Finally, there were some articles by St. Harry on German aircraft captured by the Russians in WS a few years ago. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:29:24 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Fabric question for the List Message-ID: <000701c08fed$05dd8a80$43121a3f@oemcomputer> > There is a good article on the "Fokker D VII Covering practices" by Dan San > Abbot in WW I Aero no 102. In general, it is claimed in there that: > > - the fuselage covering was done as a "sock" (or sack) > - it consisted of 5 pieces (2 sides, upper, 2 lower to meet in the center) > that were pre-assembled and then attached to the fuselage in a specified > manner Thanks Volker! I couldn't tell if I was going nuts (again), or knew whatI was talking about. Much appreciation! DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 03:53:55 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Captured Strutter Message-ID: >From: Volker Häusler >There are also two Pfalz D III (Pollinger/Jasta 77b and Hegeler/Jasta >15, >IIRC) documented in full British markings Volker: Any idea where this might be found. That would be a great idea for the MAC kit now languishing in my cupboard. It's a decent kit but having done a Pflaz D.IIIa recently, I was thinking it would be a while before I did the D.III. But with RFC markings, that would be a good excuse to get some use from the Americal RFC sheet. TIA. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 22:55:07 -0500 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fabric question for the List Message-ID: <3646DBED.677C6F0A.3E0364A1@netscape.net> wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu wrote, in part: > > There is a good article on the "Fokker D VII Covering practices" by Dan San > Abbot in WW I Aero no 102. > > This article plus one on Albatros Fokker D VII's in the same issue and one > on Fokker build D VII's in WW I Aero no 107 give rather complete picture on > the factory finishes. > > Volker Thanks, Volker. I'm going to order the back issues tomorrow. Mike K. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3048 **********************