WWI Digest 3047 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: That is: Bleriot Book by the Smithsonian Institution by Crawford Neil 2) Re: Digest size just right by "David C. Fletcher" 3) JG. info by "Matt Bittner" 4) Updated links by "Matt Bittner" 5) Jagdgeschwader Jastas by "Mark Shannon" 6) Re: JG. info by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 7) Re: JG. info by "Hans Trauner" 8) Re: Jagdgeschwader Jastas by "Brian Nicklas" 9) One more German question by "Matt Bittner" 10) Re: Halberstadt DIII by "Allan Wright" 11) Re: Halberstadt DIII by Allan Wright 12) Re: New (?) Idea for Strut Attachments by KarrArt@aol.com 13) Re: New (?) Idea for Strut Attachments by KarrArt@aol.com 14) Morane Saulnier by Jim Landon 15) Halberstadt looks great by Jim Landon 16) Re: Halberstadt looks great by Allan Wright 17) Super job on the Fokker EIII by Jim Landon 18) Re: Dufaux fighter? by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 19) Caproni/Shane? by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 20) Re: [Fwd: CAPRONI CA-3, MEIKRAFT 1/72 , MINT] by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 21) Re: One more German question by "Lyle Lamboley" 22) Re: [Fwd: CAPRONI CA-3, MEIKRAFT 1/72 , MINT] by "Dale Sebring" 23) OT tank horror story by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 24) Re: Digest size just right by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 25) Re: Lewis drums/DRAWINGS by "TOM PLESHA" 26) Re: Avro 504 from A-Model by David Fleming 27) Re: Jack's strut joining Idea by David Fleming 28) Nice Fokker EV Diorama by David Fleming 29) Re: OT tank horror story by GRBroman@aol.com 30) Re: Jack's strut joining Idea by GRBroman@aol.com 31) RE: Jack's strut joining Idea by Crawford Neil 32) Re: OT tank horror story by "Dale Sebring" 33) RE: Digest size just right by Shane Weier 34) RE: One more German question by "Gaston Graf" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:15:33 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: That is: Bleriot Book by the Smithsonian Institution Message-ID: Nice places, both of them! /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: David Fleming [mailto:dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: den 5 februari 2001 16:58 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: That is: Bleriot Book by the Smithsonian Institution > > > > > Brian Nicklas wrote: > > > Not Institute - Institution > > > > It was specifically spelled that way by James Smithson in his will. > > > > You know, Institution seems about right for this list !! > > D > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 09:54:25 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Digest size just right Message-ID: <3A7EE8D1.1030903@mars.ark.com> Crawford Neil wrote: > Wow, I'm glad I only live in Sweden, wherever you are there's > always some place worse! Over 4 metres of snow Mark, is that normal > for you? And on Canada's biggest West Coast island, we've had one snowfall all winter and it has long gone. Now everyone knows why I didn't retire in Newfoundland... My condolensces to MVJ. Modelling is on the back burner for a while - I disassembled and stripped the fabric-covered tailfeathers on my 1:1 scale aeroplane yesterday. Now comes the paint-stripping, sandblasting, priming and recovering in real fabric, not a styrene substitute. Unless I really screw up, there will be no "starved cow" look at the end of all this. Then I get to tackle the wings! And I really was planning to get something going for the Sopwith cook-up, so I'll just have to invent the 27-hour day. I have a Camel, a Baby and a Snipe all sitting here forlornly awaiting my tender 1/48th touch. Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 11:58:32 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: JG. info Message-ID: <200102051758.JAA28369@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Can anyone quickly provide me with which Jastas were in JG.1 and JG.2? I'm about to add some really finger-breaking images to the site, and need to break them up according to JG. TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 08:30:08 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Updated links Message-ID: <200102051823.NAA18090@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Just wanted to let everyone know I updated the links page to include the new Landships site for WW1 ground vehicles, as well as updated Dennis' URL. Dennis, thank you. I truly dislike xoom/nbci, so I'm glad you moved your site. Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:30:38 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Jagdgeschwader Jastas Message-ID: I know I'll get it wrong, but let's see: JG 1 - 4, 6, 10, 11 JG 2 - 12, 15, 18, ? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:27:08 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: JG. info Message-ID: <000c01c08fa1$4099c5e0$3437183f@cyrixp166> JG.1 - 4,6,10 & 11 JG.2 - 12, 13, 15 & 19 JG.3 - 2, 26, 27 & 36 JG.4b - 23b, 32b, 34b & 35b Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: JG. info > Can anyone quickly provide me with which Jastas were in JG.1 and JG.2? > I'm about to add some really finger-breaking images to the site, and > need to break them up according to JG. TIA! > > > Matt Bittner > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:33:32 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: JG. info Message-ID: <003a01c08fa2$24e2ef60$32a172d4@custom-pc> >Can anyone quickly provide me with which Jastas were in JG.1 and JG.2? > As I am always interested in 'finger-breaking-pictures' to discourage me more and more: Royal Prussian Jagdgeschwader 1 ('Richthofen'): Jastas 4, 6, 10, 11 Royal Prussian Jagdgeschwader II: Jastas 12, 13, 15, 19 From: Franks et.al, The Jasta Pilots, page 319 Hans ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:43:44 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jagdgeschwader Jastas Message-ID: According to "The Jasta Pilots" : JG 1 (Prussian) - 4, 6, 10, 11 von R, Reinhard, Goring JG 2 (Prussian)- 12, 13, 15, 19 von Tutsheck, Berthold, von Boenigk JG 3 (Prussian) - 2, 26, 27, 36 Loerzer JG 4 (Bavarian) - 23b, 32b, 34b, 35b von Schleich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:46:47 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: One more German question Message-ID: <200102051847.KAA18942@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Thanks for those who helped me with the JG question. One more - what Jasta did Udet fly with when he flew his black and white striped "Lo" Triplane? Was this J11? TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:50:49 -0500 From: "Allan Wright" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Halberstadt DIII Message-ID: <10102051350.ZM18451@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hi Peter, the attchment on this mail was not readable. Please re-send. I was able to decode the Halberstadt photo on your other mail. Thanks, Allan > attached is a (compressed) jpeg file of my Halberstadt DIII from John > Cyg's kit > > please post in the St. Louis section > > thank you > > peter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:59:48 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Halberstadt DIII Message-ID: <200102051859.NAA18630@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Oh shoot! I didn't realize you sent that to the list. Please only mail binaries to me direct, not to the list!!!! Allan > > Hi Peter, the attchment on this mail was not readable. Please re-send. I was > able to decode the Halberstadt photo on your other mail. > > Thanks, > Allan > > > attached is a (compressed) jpeg file of my Halberstadt DIII from John > > Cyg's kit > > > > please post in the St. Louis section > > > > thank you > > > > peter > =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:01:27 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New (?) Idea for Strut Attachments Message-ID: <78.10226e1e.27b05287@aol.com> In a message dated 2/4/01 10:34:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Yeah, yeah, you're always telling us how to do this. ............... So tell me HTF you get the string centred in the bamboo bits. Please ! Shane >> I know... I Know.... I know I've tried to explain this before....it's cheap, quick, easy and does the job..........jeez, maybe I'll have to do some illustrated article or something to SHOW what I'm doing. RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:01:25 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New (?) Idea for Strut Attachments Message-ID: <8f.67e71ad.27b05285@aol.com> In a message dated 2/5/01 8:34:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, lance.krieg@amerus.com writes: << Shane tE and I have not had the same luck. I finally solved the "central" issue by dispensing with the bamboo and chucking the Estring right into the tool - otherwise the wire flopped in mad circles and refused to go where aimed. I have perfected the rigging hole-drilling jig idea that I stole from Shane Weier by incorporating brass tubes in a block of plastic. These tubes lead the wildly gyrating guitar string to the correct point to begin a hole in the wing. I will take some pictures of this handy little tool, if RK can explain how he gets his wire centered in his chuck. And I poke holes in my fingers, too, whenever I use a guitar string. Lance >> When I make up one of these drills, I never really worry about precisely centering the string in the bamboo shaft. The bamboo I use is a length of thin skewer, a hair maybe over 1/16". I make a hole in the end of the skewer piece with a sewing needle and just glue the string into it. Any hole to be drilled gets a slight pilot hole picked with a needle, then I get the string-drill point in this and buzz away. Since the piece of string isn't all that long, there's not that much whipping, and also the slight flexibilty of the string makes it vaguely self-centering when drilling. The only reason for the bamboo is that I don't have a chuck small enough to hold only the string....if I could find one that would grip tight down to .006", I'd go for it. RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:27:08 -0700 From: Jim Landon To: diaphus@tampabay.rr.com Cc: WWI List Subject: Morane Saulnier Message-ID: <3A7EFE8C.731910BC@lmco.com> Jack Gartner, Enjoyed looking through your Morane Saulnier "under construction" images. I've enjoyed your other photos too, but I especially appreciate seeing the process of building a model. Thanks for going to the trouble to take photos as you go along, and posting them. Jim Landon List semi-member (reply direct, I'm not subscribed) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:31:54 -0700 From: Jim Landon To: DNSH@aol.com Cc: AllanWright , WWI List Subject: Halberstadt looks great Message-ID: <3A7EFFAA.AFC72629@lmco.com> Dan Hartz, your Halberstadt looks great. The thumbnails of the D.VIII look promising but when I click on the thumbnail it gives an error message. Maybe Allan is already working on it. Jim Landon List semi-member ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:44:56 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Halberstadt looks great Message-ID: <200102051944.OAA19009@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Dan Hartz, your Halberstadt looks great. The thumbnails of the D.VIII > look promising but when I click on the thumbnail it gives an error > message. Maybe Allan is already working on it. I don't know what you're talking about - they work fine :-) (Sheesh! those semi-members) Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:41:47 -0700 From: Jim Landon To: Scottfking@aol.com Cc: WWI List Subject: Super job on the Fokker EIII Message-ID: <3A7F01FA.DD21ED83@lmco.com> Scott King, super job on the Fokker EIII. I wish I could see it in person -- my computer screen doesn't show the the results of sanding off the ribs and replacing them with stretched sprue. I'll look again tonight on my home computer. Ditto for all the other work you put into it. But from the description I bet it's fantastic. What I can see looks great. It says you're a new member, so welcome, but I'm not currently subscribed (too much email already). Jim Landon List semi-member ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:11:19 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dufaux fighter? Message-ID: <26.10d653a3.27b062e7@aol.com> In a message dated 2/4/2001 8:59:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, Uggies@compuserve.com writes: << This weekend is completely used up. And it's only Sunday. >> Yeah Dennis, I understand that, my weekends are used up permanent since I only get to see my wife during the weekends they are totally committed to her, of course this really sucks when the model shows come into season. Thanks again, I'm looking forward to seeing the pictures. Best Regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:13:34 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Caproni/Shane? Message-ID: <6b.f712763.27b0636e@aol.com> Hi Shane, has the Caproni stuff that I mailed you arrived yet? Best Regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:21:41 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: CAPRONI CA-3, MEIKRAFT 1/72 , MINT] Message-ID: <26.10d653a5.27b06555@aol.com> In a message dated 2/4/2001 11:41:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: << I'm not gonna screw around with Ebay on this. I have a mint, unopened, Meikraft, WWI Caproni Ca-3 model kit for sale or trade. this is one of the most rare kits in the WWI field. Box condition is 9.9/10 and still white. I will sell it for $165.00. Since I am a WWI aviation Gamer, I will accept other 1/'72 scale WWI kits or even built up models as part payment. Please send a list of kits or models you wish to trade. Jim Denberger Edgewood Wa. >> Gee's I just picked one of these up a few months back for under $30.00, of course the box was opened! Pretty expensive tape. Best Regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:23:03 -0500 From: "Lyle Lamboley" To: Subject: Re: One more German question Message-ID: <004901c08fb1$788465e0$cccdd03f@lylelamb> Matt, Udet was with J4 when he flew Dr.I 586/17 but this triplane was originally Kirschstein's who was with J6. Hence the black and white striping on the tail, the jasta marking. "Die optische Taeuschung" (the optical illusion) was what Kirschstein called it, thinking that all of the additional striping would throw off an enemy pilot's aim. What I understand is that Udet only added his ubiquitous "Lo" to the fuse sides. HTH Lyle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:52 PM Subject: One more German question > Thanks for those who helped me with the JG question. One more - what > Jasta did Udet fly with when he flew his black and white striped "Lo" > Triplane? Was this J11? TIA! > > > Matt Bittner > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:38:22 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: [Fwd: CAPRONI CA-3, MEIKRAFT 1/72 , MINT] Message-ID: <000b01c08fb3$95f73ce0$57b58dd0@main> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: CAPRONI CA-3, MEIKRAFT 1/72 , MINT] > In a message dated 2/4/2001 11:41:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, > tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: > > << I'm not gonna screw around with Ebay on this. > I have a mint, unopened, Meikraft, WWI Caproni Ca-3 model kit for sale > or > trade. this is one of the most rare kits in the WWI field. Box > condition is > 9.9/10 and still white. I will sell it for $165.00. Since I am a WWI > aviation > Gamer, I will accept other 1/'72 scale WWI kits or even built up models > as > part payment. Please send a list of kits or models you wish to trade. > > Jim Denberger > Edgewood Wa. >> > Gee's I just picked one of these up a few months back for under $30.00, of > course the box was opened! Pretty expensive tape. What you said! Dale ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:18:42 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: OT tank horror story Message-ID: Just heard this tidbit from a friend here at the office and - true or not - it made my hair stand on end. Apparently there was a WWI tank (type unknwon) used here at the end of the war for military training. post war it was used for snowclearing and tractor duties. Not surprising given our winters. The sad part of the tale is when it got to old to be repairable they used it as fill on a building lot!!!! Oh the humanity! Wonder if anything would be left?? probably not :-( Probably an urban myth but OT so here it is FWIW. MVJ Heading home to prepare for tomorrow's blizzard. 35 cms of snow and 110km/h winds at latest forecast A big fat sarcastic Yippee. . .I'll have to shovel out and come to work anyway - the news never sleeps dagnab it - and then shovel my way in whenever -if ever - I get home again. Anyopne in warmer climes fancy an immigrant butler? I already have the snobby British accent ;-) pray for me. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:43:17 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Digest size just right Message-ID: <8b.1fdfcd5.27b06a65@aol.com> In a message dated 2/5/2001 1:09:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, sljenkins@tac.com.au writes: << Hi Jon, Blushes all round here mate from both Lorna & myself ;-) However, SMML is done manually >> Gosh Shane, I forgot the Mistress, I'm really sorry about that Mistress Lorna, I'll take thirty lashes with a wet noodle. Great job, no blushing necessary. Best Regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:52:23 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Lewis drums/DRAWINGS Message-ID: <008a01c08fb5$8b3a9a20$d75b570c@tom> Hi- I've a set of 8 1/2 x 11 Wylam drawings of the Lewis Gun and drums, all dimensioned, if this would help. I don't have a scanner but I will copy and mail them if you like. TP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Lewis drums > Does anyone have images of what the Lewis drums looked like? I need to > build some for the HD.3, and was curious... > > Plus, if anyone has any close up photos of the Lewis itself, I would > appreciate scans as well. TIA! > > > Matt Bittner > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 20:40:47 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Avro 504 from A-Model Message-ID: <3A7F0FCE.BBB815F3@dial.pipex.com> dfernet0 wrote: > There's no cure fot the old Airfix model but to scratchbuild a fuselage from > the raw. Why ? a shim of plastic card on the underside cures the biggest problem, and the kit has sooo much conversion potential - Avro 504A-N, various later Avros, Cierva C6 & C8 autogiros etc ? Interested to hear why you have such a downer on the Airfix kit ? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 20:43:54 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jack's strut joining Idea Message-ID: <3A7F1089.22E2C00@dial.pipex.com> Michael Kendix wrote: > >np: _Faire Celts_, a collection of female Celtic singers - yum! > > Sounds like purgatory to me, I'm a Rangers fan myself (every English soccer > fan has to have a favourite Scottish team - it's required. Do Albion Rovers > actually exist?). > Michael, there's hope for you yet !! And Albion Rovers do exist, they come from Coatbridge. Can't think of an OT link .......Oh yes, the first black officer in the British Army played for Rangers during WW1 (He was killed during one of the big battles) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 20:54:04 +0000 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Nice Fokker EV Diorama Message-ID: <3A7F12EB.A679DAF5@dial.pipex.com> Bit of a tease this one - a friend has just sent me some photos of an un-named modeller's Fokker EV diorama - the model in question is done as the 'wing test' aircraft with 24 people on the wing. I'll try and find out who and see if I can get it on the web- all I ahve is that is was taken at the IPMS UK Milton Keynes show. dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 16:13:31 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: Subject: Re: OT tank horror story Message-ID: <11.f68f0b8.27b0717c@aol.com> Mark, Where are you? Given the amount of snow you talk about, cold winds and freezing temperatures, you could be just down the street. I'm assuming Canada. My gues is that it would be a US Six ton tank. Let me know where you are at and I may be able to provide some rationale. Oh, and where exactly is this building lot ? ;) Glen In a message dated Mon, 5 Feb 2001 3:49:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, Mark Vaughan-Jackson writes: << Just heard this tidbit from a friend here at the office and - true or not - it made my hair stand on end. Apparently there was a WWI tank (type unknwon) used here at the end of the war for military training. post war it was used for snowclearing and tractor duties. Not surprising given our winters. The sad part of the tale is when it got to old to be repairable they used it as fill on a building lot!!!! Oh the humanity! Wonder if anything would be left?? probably not :-( Probably an urban myth but OT so here it is FWIW. MVJ Heading home to prepare for tomorrow's blizzard. 35 cms of snow and 110km/h winds at latest forecast A big fat sarcastic Yippee. . .I'll have to shovel out and come to work anyway - the news never sleeps dagnab it - and then shovel my way in whenever -if ever - I get home again. Anyopne in warmer climes fancy an immigrant butler? I already have the snobby British accent ;-) pray for me. MVJ >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 16:16:25 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Jack's strut joining Idea Message-ID: In a message dated Mon, 5 Feb 2001 4:08:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, David Fleming writes: Oh yes, the first black officer in the British Army played for Rangers during WW1 (He was killed during one of the big battles) Against Man U, no doubt. ;) Glen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:23:10 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Jack's strut joining Idea Message-ID: That means I'm qualified to choose one too, so Celtic, because their best player is Swedish, Henrik Larsson 31 goals so far, beat that! /Neil I'm a Rangers fan myself (every > English soccer > fan has to have a favourite Scottish team - it's required. > Do Albion Rovers > actually exist?). > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:59:31 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: OT tank horror story Message-ID: <001601c08fbe$ec117860$a7b58dd0@main> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Vaughan-Jackson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:51 PM Subject: OT tank horror story > Just heard this tidbit from a friend here at the office and - true or not - > it made my hair stand on end. > Apparently there was a WWI tank (type unknwon) used here at the end of the > war for military training. post war it was used for snowclearing and > tractor duties. Not surprising given our winters. > The sad part of the tale is when it got to old to be repairable they used > it as fill on a building lot!!!! > Oh the humanity! > Wonder if anything would be left?? probably not :-( > Probably an urban myth but OT so here it is FWIW. > > MVJ > Heading home to prepare for tomorrow's blizzard. 35 cms of snow and 110km/h > winds at latest forecast > A big fat sarcastic Yippee. . .I'll have to shovel out and come to work > anyway - the news never sleeps dagnab it - and then shovel my way in > whenever -if ever - I get home again. > Anyopne in warmer climes fancy an immigrant butler? I already have the > snobby British accent ;-) > pray for me. > > MVJ I thought it was us Yanks with the accent! ;-) Dale ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:09:16 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Digest size just right Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748B82@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Neil, > Ps. I saw someone wanted snow, we have had -15C all weekend > with a 10m/s wind which works out as a cold factor of around -30C. > Not very much snow right now, but they are warning that we can > expect 30cm (1 foot) tonight, where should I send it? ;-) > Brisbane mate. About 30cm on the roof of my house, and don't let it fall on the flowers but I'd appreciate another 30cm on the lawn to kill it and save wastefull mowing time. Summer is NOT modelling time. Not because of any foolish preference for sport and outdoor pursuits, but because the sweat fogs my spectacles something terrible Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. 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There is also a section about several bombing raids in Zeppelins as well as reports of Balloon obeservers under fire. I just read a bit of the Jasta Boelcke story which sounds very interesting. More stuff to translate and write about ;o). sincerely Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Matt Bittner > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 7:55 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: One more German question > > > Thanks for those who helped me with the JG question. One more - what > Jasta did Udet fly with when he flew his black and white striped "Lo" > Triplane? Was this J11? TIA! > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3047 **********************