WWI Digest 3038 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Rigging Material by Brent Theobald 2) RE: Rigging Material by "Michael Kendix" 3) Re: jholly jhokehrs by "Mark Shannon" 4) RE: Rigging Material by Brent Theobald 5) Re: Airfix re-issues by David Fleming 6) Dufaux fighter? by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 7) Re: Jars vs. Tins, the eternal debate by "Brian Nicklas" 8) RE: Digest Size by "Nigel Rayner" 9) Caudron G.6, was Re: Airfix re-issues by "Matt Bittner" 10) RE: Airfix Reissues - aaah, memories by "Nigel Rayner" 11) Re: Welcome Evan by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 12) Re: Airfix re-issues by "Michael Kendix" 13) Bulgarian Stuff by Brent Theobald 14) Re: jholly jhokehrs by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 15) Re: 1/24 Scale Albatros D.V by "Lance Krieg" 16) Re: datafiles index by "Lance Krieg" 17) RE: Rigging Material by "Laskodi" 18) Internet Modeler by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 19) Re: 1/24 Scale Albatros D.V by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 20) RE: 1/24 Scale Albatros D.V by Brent Theobald 21) RE: Nurenberg by "Lance Krieg" 22) RE: 1/24 Scale Albatros D.V by Brent Theobald 23) Re: Dufaux fighter? by "Steven M.Perry" 24) Re: Airfix re-issues by "Tom Solinski" 25) RE: Nurenberg by Brent Theobald 26) Re: Nurenberg by "Hans Trauner" 27) Re: Humbrol shelf life? was: More paint Questions by Suvoroff@aol.com 28) Re: New (?) Idea for Strut Attachments by "diaphus" 29) Re: New (?) Idea for Strut Attachments by "diaphus" 30) Re: Humbrol shelf life? was: More paint Questions by "Hans Trauner" 31) Re: by "diaphus" 32) Re: jholly jhokehrs by "diaphus" 33) Sopwith Baby - was Good customer service from Albatross & MCP by knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:18:06 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Rigging Material Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79ECE6@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy! I have seen this stuff. It is nicer than the tie fishing line I use. The stuff I has seems stiff in comparison. The Dai-Riki is completely limp. I think it will look better entering holes. I can perceive a slight radius on some of mine. Also, ship modelers need that droop for antennas. I haven't tried this yet but a friend tells me that applying heat makes it shrink up tight. Later! Brent -----Original Message----- From: Rob & Sherry [mailto:rweiner@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 11:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Rigging Material Roll Models is listing a rigging material called: Dai-Riki Superb. It comes in sizes down to 0.002. Anyone familiar with this? Rob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 19:32:19 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Rigging Material Message-ID: >From: Brent Theobald >I can perceive a slight radius on some of mine. I don't understand what you mean by this? >It comes in sizes down to 0.002. At this diameter can you actually "see" that it's there? Reminds of Kramer's mechanical meat slicer that was so sharp, it made the slices invisible. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 13:39:10 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: jholly jhokehrs Message-ID: Matt lamented: >Gee, this list just isn't okay, is it. ;-) > >Matt Bittner I guess between cabin fever induced by a colder than normal winter and a commemoration day that involves the myopically driven meanderings of oversized Rodentia as prognosticators of the prevalent arctic climatologic meteorological prolongation of such a frigid exigency necessitating perpetuation of recourse to interior confinements, the group is populated with jokers seeking a straight-line today. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:43:31 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Rigging Material Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79ECEC@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy! What I mean is I have difficulty making a sharp corner. It has a small radius instead. This is where the rigging enters the wing. I think the Dai-Rikki will solve this problem, but I have yet to try it. Later! Brent -----Original Message----- From: Michael Kendix [mailto:mkendix@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 1:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Rigging Material >From: Brent Theobald >I can perceive a slight radius on some of mine. I don't understand what you mean by this? >It comes in sizes down to 0.002. At this diameter can you actually "see" that it's there? Reminds of Kramer's mechanical meat slicer that was so sharp, it made the slices invisible. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 19:50:45 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Airfix re-issues Message-ID: <3A7B0F95.ABD0C866@dial.pipex.com> Michael Kendix wrote: > >From: David Fleming > > >(that and the fact that OT kits are so thin on the ground conversion >is > >still a must !!) > > Dave: > > Do you really think there's so few WW1 kits available? Ok, perhaps a little harsh, I should have said "that and the fact that mainstream injection moulded OT kits are so thin on the ground conversion is still a must !!", to which I could add 'of British subjects'. Even given my personal dislike of resin (Gimme a good vacform anyday !!), I'd agree this is somewhat of a golden age for WW1 planes, but still IMHO too much reliance on German subjects !! Or maybe it's just the desire to do something 'different'.?? I intend to buy 3 or 4 HP0/400s, & probably twice that in Pups. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:15:08 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Dufaux fighter? Message-ID: <6b.f592cc1.27ac6f4c@aol.com> I seem to remember someone on the list built one of these little beauties, was it you sp? I would like to hear what you have to say about your build as I just aquired a Libramodels Scaleplane vac in 1/72, and are we talking small here, wow!!! Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:10:49 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jars vs. Tins, the eternal debate Message-ID: >>Al makes note to self....invent 2" squares of plastic called "handy seran" for modelers.<< And when we got done restoring the Aichi M6A1 floatplane, it was decided that we needed to protect the airplane before it could be placed on display -- But we haven't found a supplier of "Seiran Wrap." Badda-Bing! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:30:40 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: Digest Size Message-ID: <000001c08d57$0267c480$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Al, My own view on digest size is keep it as is. 2 to 4 is a small number to handle each day (much better than 50 to 70 individual emails if you don't have much time like me). The downside of digest mode is you are always a long way behind a thread, which is a disincentive to contribute. If you make them biger, digest users will be even further behind, making it less liekly they will contribute IMHO. BTW, thanks for the work on upgrading the search engine. Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 14:07:49 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Caudron G.6, was Re: Airfix re-issues Message-ID: <200102022007.MAA17973@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:04:14 -0500 (EST), David Fleming wrote: > Even given my personal dislike of resin (Gimme a good vacform anyday !!), I'd > agree this is somewhat of a golden age for WW1 planes, but still IMHO too much > reliance on German subjects !! Hear, here! Given David Layton's new drawings, let's see a Caudron G.6!! (C'mon, Sierra, make this your next one! ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:39:22 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: Airfix Reissues - aaah, memories Message-ID: <000101c08d58$398c2c20$983bedc1@w1o0t3> >Airfix re-issues due May 2001 > >Handley page O/400 #11.99 Seeeing this mentioned so much keeps giving me flashbacks. When I was a kid, and wild about building model aeroplanes, the Airfix HP O/400 was my reward for undergoing dental surgery (removal of 5 teeth in one session) with minimal screaming/crying/cussing at the tender age of 10. I loved that kit, and it was building that and the other Airfix and Revell kits that impalnted my love of WWI planes. But it didn't cure my hatred of dentistry! Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:10:07 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Welcome Evan Message-ID: <48.10f5f1cc.27ac6e1f@aol.com> Hello Evan, welcome to the list, I know you will enjoy it tremendously as I do. As to your questions, I cannot help you out as my reference material is still quite thin, however keep asking and sooner or later the right person will see it and give you the answer you seek. Sometimes a question has to be asked more than once as many people become unsubbed for a bit of time for one reason or the other. Again welcome to the best kept non secret on the information highway, with the friendliest people I have ever had the pleasure to meet. Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 21:04:52 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Airfix re-issues Message-ID: >From: David Fleming > >Ok, perhaps a little harsh, I should have said "that and the fact >that >mainstream injection moulded OT kits are so thin on the ground >conversion >is still a must !!", to which I could add 'of British >subjects'. Well, there's always Pegasus - DH-2, DH-4, FK-8, BE2e But that's correct. Roden is set to issue 14 kits in the near future - all axis and about 9 of them are Albatros models. That's on the heels of 2 Pfalz's, a Gotha and 3 Fokkers. It sort of gives the impression that Germany was fighting themselves and Austro-Hungary with nobody else was involved. Also, if you're into Italian, forget it - there's nothing in non-shortrun injection mold. BTW, I did find a site with Turkish markings - check out the Nieuport 17.... http://turkhavakuvvetleri.tripod.com/camo.htm Sorry Evan, no Bulgarian stuff found yet. How about that for a change, Matt? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:13:03 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Bulgarian Stuff Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79ECF4@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> If memory serves there is an article on a Bulgarian Fredrichshaven in Insignia magazine. Decals are supplied for this aircraft as well. Perhaps someone with their collection to hand can find out which issue. Good luck! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:49:19 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: jholly jhokehrs Message-ID: >Matt lamented: > >>Gee, this list just isn't okay, is it. ;-) >> >>Matt Bittner > >I guess between cabin fever induced by a colder than normal winter and a >commemoration day that involves the myopically driven meanderings of >oversized Rodentia as prognosticators of the prevalent arctic >climatologic meteorological prolongation of such a frigid exigency >necessitating perpetuation of recourse to interior confinements, the group >is populated with jokers seeking a straight-line today. > >.Mark. If that's how Mark gets after a little snow induced cabin fever what horrors await me?? I'm in the middle of writing a story about the fact Dec. 2000 was the snowiest on record here (and the records go back to 1874) We had 174 cms of snow that month alone. We've had 356 cms so far this winter and - wait for it - we're supposed to get another blizzard and another 35 cms tomorrow. THat's about 14 feet and counting. This is why I'm stocking up on food, red wine and glue for Saturday. I plan to sit snug and build my Jenny while the wind howls outside. I just hope the roads are clear on Sunday. . . I'm giving a model clinic to a bunch of girl guides. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 15:27:09 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: 1/24 Scale Albatros D.V Message-ID: Brent is: "... thinking I could actually cover this with wood. Real thin bass wood?" Check out the ultra-fine plywood that the RC guys use; bends well, and is birch, like the prototype. I think you can get it in 1/64 inch thicknesses. HTH Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 15:36:46 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: datafiles index Message-ID: Diego wonders about the first 10 Datafiles: "Which are the rest?" 1. Albatros D.III 2. Sopwith Pup 3. Albatros D.V 4. Bristol Fighter 5. Fokker Dr.I 6. Sopwith 2F1 Camel 7. Pfalz D.III 8. Spad 7C1 9. Fokker D.VII 10. RAF SE5a Many of these have been updated with Specials, but contain different pictures and profiles. HTH Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:38:21 -0800 From: "Laskodi" To: "Post WW1 List" Subject: RE: Rigging Material Message-ID: <002401c08d60$77596ce0$253819d0@laskodi> I haven't seen the actual stuff, but Dai-Riki makes monofilament fishing line (specifically fly fishing tippet material) which is what I suspect this stuff is. If it costs more than $3 a spool, go to your nearest fly fishing store and ask for some 8X tippet material and save your self some bucks. BTW, all my models use fly fishing tippet material painted silver since I fly fish and always have a ton of it left over after the season. I use 4X (.006) for manly Bob scale and 6X (.004) for dinky Matt scale. ----------------Bob <<>> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:45:09 -0800 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: Subject: Internet Modeler Message-ID: Howdy folks, For all of you who are trying to get into Internet Modeler and are getting an error page, it's because I just found out that the server is moving to a new physical location and that "possible downtime is to be expected". Nice of them to let me know WHILE the move is happening, instead of before.... Internet Modeler should be back up and running soon. Sincerely, Chris Banyai-Riepl Publisher/Illustrator Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:53:43 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/24 Scale Albatros D.V Message-ID: <47.6f3138c.27ac8667@aol.com> In a message dated 2/2/2001 4:30:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, lance.krieg@amerus.com writes: << "... thinking I could actually cover this with wood. Real thin bass wood?" Check out the ultra-fine plywood that the RC guys use; bends well, and is birch, like the prototype. I think you can get it in 1/64 inch thicknesses. >> Yes it is Lance and in large sheets to, 12 X 48 inches. I use it all the time on my R/C aircraft projects. Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:58:21 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: 1/24 Scale Albatros D.V Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79ECF6@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy! Thanks for the tip Lance. Actually I have some red and white cedar I've collected from inside cigar tubes. It's paper thin. I figure I'll play around some stains to get the proper blondish effect. Maybe I'll go with a darker stain. Some of those Albies look positively dark stained. Later! Brent -----Original Message----- From: Lance Krieg [mailto:lance.krieg@amerus.com] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 3:32 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: 1/24 Scale Albatros D.V Brent is: "... thinking I could actually cover this with wood. Real thin bass wood?" Check out the ultra-fine plywood that the RC guys use; bends well, and is birch, like the prototype. I think you can get it in 1/64 inch thicknesses. HTH Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 15:57:54 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: Nurenberg Message-ID: Matt was wondering what's new... In 1/48, the SPAD 12 and 16, the MoS G, H, PP, Breguet 5,9, and 14A, Voisin L, Caudron G.III, IV, and R.11, Nieuports IX, X, XI, XII, and XVI, Ponnier, and a bunch of stuff so obscure that I'm not sure it's OT... all French, though. In 1/72 they've reissued the Airfix Albatros D.V. > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Matt, I couldn't resist. And for you gullible types, none of the above is true... I have no idea what is coming. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:03:42 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: 1/24 Scale Albatros D.V Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79ECF7@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy! I forgot to add something... >I think you can get it in 1/64 inch thicknesses. The only problem is how to bring the metal panels flush with the wood. For this reason I have been contemplating scanning and printing wood onto decal paper. Nice and thin. ot historical remark: Today is the anniversary of the day Von Paulus surrendered the 9th army to the Russians at Stalingrad during the Great Patriotic War. I wonder if there are any celebrations going on there today? Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:12:05 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Dufaux fighter? Message-ID: <004901c08d65$2dd019c0$cff2aec7@default> > I seem to remember someone on the list built one of these little beauties, > was it you sp? Hi Jon: I'm guilty. It was a decent little Vac, only two problems. The cockpit is a bit small for the two seats. Thin 'em down real well and be sure to stagger them. The other is the mid-section prop. Use a good strong rod as a propshaft and secure it at both ends as this is all that will hold it together, (just like the real one). Also be sure to get the correct order of the color stripes on the rudder. I got mine bassackwards IIRC. My Dufaux was one of BvB's victims, but I saved it and will rebuild it as I'm unlikely to find another kit. sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:22:41 -0600 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Airfix re-issues Message-ID: <00a201c08d66$a8a2dc40$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> > > Why is it that when the re-release or release of a kit's announced, the > > first thing we do is discuss how it can be converted into something else?:) > > Ahh, that is the way of the modeller Grasshopper !! So, We should hop to the conversion? Sorry Sorry my Outlook express "fail" in a recieve cycle. It will start to down load, then perform an "illeagal operation" and crash. Open it, partial download, crash. So if you the list has generated 70 messages on a given day I may get to see each one up to five times. And the puns wore off Does any one else Have this problem Or know how to fix it? TIA Tom Solinski ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:28:54 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Nurenberg Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79ECF8@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Hey Lance! I didn't think it was your turn to tease Matt until July? -----Original Message----- From: Lance Krieg [mailto:lance.krieg@amerus.com] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 4:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Nurenberg Matt was wondering what's new... In 1/48, the SPAD 12 and 16, the MoS G, H, PP, Breguet 5,9, and 14A, Voisin L, Caudron G.III, IV, and R.11, Nieuports IX, X, XI, XII, and XVI, Ponnier, and a bunch of stuff so obscure that I'm not sure it's OT... all French, though. In 1/72 they've reissued the Airfix Albatros D.V. > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Matt, I couldn't resist. And for you gullible types, none of the above is true... I have no idea what is coming. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 23:29:52 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Nurenberg Message-ID: <008a01c08d67$a97d8f60$2ea372d4@custom-pc> >Has anybody heard about any of the announcements at Nurenburg (sp?)? Hi, everbody. Should I confess that I am living in Nuernberg? O.K. I do. I sent my brother to the annual toy fair to report anything he could find. Nothing. Nichts. Rien. Nada. Eduard does have their own stand, but there is nothing new not already found on their homepage. On the ICM stand he did not noticed anything new, but maybe there will be some WWI figures in 1/35. He did not find any other eastern european producers, but the toy fair is pretty large and normaly you need two days to check everything. He found Revell, Tamiya etc., but, of course, no OT kits on the horizon. He did found Airfix, but was not informed about the re-issues discussed already here on the forum. The problem with the Nuernberg toy fair is that the stands are equipped with marketing and sales personell. Most of them are not able to see the difference between a F16 and a Triplane. But I'll get the official press infos from most of the firms and I'll inform you if I hear anything else. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:37:34 EST From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Humbrol shelf life? was: More paint Questions Message-ID: "The con in the screwcap is that it may stuck very hard and you need time and patience to get it opened, whereas a Humbrol tin can allways be opened with a screwdriver." Nahh - the few stubborn screwcaps usually yeild to a pair of pliers. The very rare caps that won't yield to that, I turn them upside down and drop a few drops of paint thinner into the edge of the cap, in a minute or two they come loose. Now, my experience with the tins is that after you use the screwdriver a few times the edge of the lid gets bent out of shape. Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:51:15 -0500 From: "diaphus" To: Subject: Re: New (?) Idea for Strut Attachments Message-ID: <004b01c08d6a$a60ea000$59551a18@tampabay.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob & Sherry" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 1:17 PM Subject: Re: New (?) Idea for Strut Attachments > Hey Jack, > Would the wire sold by Small Parts Inc. be strong enough? It would cost > alot less that drill bits! > Rob > Rob, No idea. I'd have to get some and try it out. I have one of their old catalogues, I'll have to look. I think brass would be too soft at such a fine diameter, but steel would probably work. Jack Gartner diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:55:32 -0500 From: "diaphus" To: Subject: Re: New (?) Idea for Strut Attachments Message-ID: <007301c08d6b$3f4e7f60$59551a18@tampabay.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Vaughan-Jackson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: Re: New (?) Idea for Strut Attachments > >Hey Jack, > > Would the wire sold by Small Parts Inc. be strong enough? It would cost > >alot less that drill bits! > >Rob > > > What about straight pins?? Too thick for this application, although I have also used them for levers and other things in the past. I actually have some insect pins from school, which are much finer in diameter than the striaght pins from shirts, and they are too thick! If you go any thicker than a #79 drill bit, in all likelihood you'll rip right through the side of the strut. In fact, I did that one one strut end even with the #79 bit. Jack Gartner diaphus@tampabay.rr.com Jack Gartner diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 23:57:56 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Humbrol shelf life? was: More paint Questions Message-ID: <01bf01c08d6b$94f25360$2ea372d4@custom-pc> >Nahh - the few stubborn screwcaps usually yeild to a pair of pliers. The >very rare caps that won't yield to that, I turn them upside down and drop a >few drops of paint thinner into the edge of the cap, .. I do have the same screwcaps problems with Tamiya and Gunze acrylics. I simple put them upside down in some hot water for a few seconds. But only the screwcap, of course, not the complete bottle. krrkkk... they are open. Works with enamels, also, of course. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 18:07:02 -0500 From: "diaphus" To: Subject: Re: Message-ID: <00b001c08d6c$da2adb40$59551a18@tampabay.rr.com> Evan, Welcome to the group. You might think you're only going to model one category of aircraft (I did when I started) but eventually you'll get hooked on other ones that catch your eye, and before you know it, you'll be doing (gasp!) 1/72nd scale French aircraft :-). Anyway, according to my references, you are correct about the wing markings for Bulgarian WWI a/c, Cross Patee with a green band about 1.5 times the width of the cross along the trailing edge. Sorry, but cannot help you with specific planes, though. Enjoy the list! Jack Gartner diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 18:09:15 -0500 From: "diaphus" To: Subject: Re: jholly jhokehrs Message-ID: <00c701c08d6d$29eb1dc0$59551a18@tampabay.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Shannon" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 2:43 PM Subject: Re: jholly jhokehrs > Matt lamented: > > >Gee, this list just isn't okay, is it. ;-) > > > >Matt Bittner > > I guess between cabin fever induced by a colder than normal winter and a commemoration day that involves the myopically driven meanderings of oversized Rodentia as prognosticators of the prevalent arctic > climatologic meteorological prolongation of such a frigid exigency necessitating perpetuation of recourse to interior confinements, the group is populated with jokers seeking a straight-line today. > > .Mark. Mark, Man, it looks like your word processing thesaurus just exploded ;-) Do you mean it's freakin' cold where you are? Jack Gartner diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:21:48 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Sopwith Baby - was Good customer service from Albatross & MCP Message-ID: <200102022321.AAA28450@mail-relay.eunet.no> Neil & others Since my name and the Sopwith Baby was mentioned, I have to inform you that the testflight of the replica Sopwith Baby built for Marinemuseet in Horten, Norway is still far into the future. The person who was paid for working on it developed sort of builders block, and little progress was made last year. (Happens in 1:1 as well!!!) It is now stored in Horten, one advantage of WW1 aircraft is that you need only a van and a few people to move them from one location to another. I still hope to see it in the air dogfighting Mikael Carlssons Fokker DVII, Norwegian Sopwith Babys were instrumental in navy planning made in the 2oies for destroying the Swedish fleet by keeping their scouts away from our fleet. The British supplied us with these aircraft during WW1 for protecting our neutrality against German Zeppeliners and submarines, so the Babys are OT. The good news from Norway is that a Farman Longhorn is being assembled. Got permission to go on my own in the NTM and take some reference photos, will see how my new camera equipment handle indoor photography. With -15C and gale force winds forcasted, I think I will refrain from taking pictures outside for a while. Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------------------------------------- >I got a lot of OT mail yesterday, first was the Sopwith Baby >datafile. Midland-Counties sent me a note saying there would >be a delay, but in fact it came faster than usual. The Baby datafile >has a wonderful cover showing a french machine. Also there is a >aknowledgment to our own Knut-Erik. The Baby is a lovely little >machine, there is even a US version, I almost regret choosing the >Schneider version. The Tabloid minidatafile was out of stock, who's >been buying all those?! ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3038 **********************