WWI Digest 3018 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Austro Hungarian navy flying boats by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 2) Re: New nifty and cheap almost OT acquisitions by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 3) Re: Sniffing the air... by "Matt Bittner" 4) Morane pictures by Marc Flake 5) Re: Morane pictures by "Matt Bittner" 6) USN/USMC aircraft by Friedrich Kappes 7) Sierra Models by "TOM PLESHA" 8) Re: Sierra Models by "Matt Bittner" 9) Re: Sierra Models by "Steven M.Perry" 10) Re: Sierra Models by "TOM PLESHA" 11) Re: Sierra Models by MAnde72343@aol.com 12) Re: London Calling.... by Ernest Thomas 13) RE: London Calling.... by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 14) Welcome back by "Francisca e Pedro Soares" 15) Re: USN/USMC aircraft by "Tom Solinski" 16) RE: Sierra Models by "Ray Boorman" 17) Re: springs by Morg17ms@aol.com 18) Re: OOOPS by Morg17ms@aol.com 19) Re: Sierra Models by "aa8." 20) Re: Sierra Models by "Matt Bittner" 21) Re: Sierra Models by "Steven M.Perry" 22) Re: Sniffing the air... by KarrArt@aol.com 23) Re: Sopwith and Giants cookup by KarrArt@aol.com 24) Re: OOOPS He Did It Again, More Tom Morgan On Hyperscale by KarrArt@aol.com 25) am I subscribed? by "Limon3" 26) Re: am I subscribed? by MAnde72343@aol.com 27) Re: am I subscribed? by Todd Hayes 28) Petrol Tanks by "David Vosburgh" 29) Re: Petrol Tanks by MAnde72343@aol.com 30) Re: am I subscribed? by "TOM PLESHA" 31) Re: am I subscribed? by "Bob Pearson" 32) Re: Sierra Models by Dennis Ugulano 33) Re: Sierra Models by "aa8." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:22:14 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Austro Hungarian navy flying boats Message-ID: <001701c08865$84195120$7f01010a@jaring.my> Andy, concerning your question: > I am after information on Austro Hungarian navy flying boats. > I have on order both the Joystick Phoenix A boat and Sierra's HB W.18. > According to my ancient Harleyford Marine Aircraft Volume The two boats were > closely related, but it isn't too clear on how. > Can anyone out there help me fill in this grey area?" and the later enquiry on the CC series as well: Actually, the origin of the Phoenix series is a myth that has been repeated time and time again, including the Joystick instructions and some quite recent publications. In reality, there were 2 independent, not related series of fighter flying boats in AH: - The Heinkel/Brandenburg series (designer/manufacturer) - The Mickl/Oeffag/Phoenix series (designer/manufacturers) First on the Heinkel series: First Heinkel (but not AH - see below) fighter flying boat was the Brandenburg "CC". Named after Camillo Castiglioni, the famous AH financier and owner or in control of Phoenix, UFAG and Brandenburg (and also involved in Lohner). Star Strutter layout like the Brandenburg D I . Only build by Brandenburg, as were the derivative W 17 (cantilever biplane), W 18 (standard single bay wing design) and W 23 (canon armed fighter) designs. The CC was build both for the German and the AH navy, the W 18 only for Autria-Hungary. The CC had a good reputation with both friend and foe, quite surprisingly when compared to the other starstrutter, the Brandenburg D I. if AH statistics are believed, the CC achieved 5 victories, with only ona a/c lost in combat. On the other hand, the later W 18 also achieved 5 victories (some of them rather questionable), but 5 were lost in combat. In general, the AH fighter flying boats maybe had a better reputation than the one they actually deserved. On to the Mickl series: First Mickl and AH flying boat fighters were the 3 Albatros (Austria, not Germany - the company was later renamed Phoenix) A 1 to A 3 flying boats of 1915/16, which were singular in being driven by a Gnome rotary engine. A complete failure, but Mickl continued with the famous Oeffag A 11, Banfield's "Blauer Vogel" (Blue Bird). No series production in spite of what is claimed a superior performance to the CC. Mickl then designed some prototypes build by Phoenix (A 105/106), which led to the Phoenix A 119-130 and the final development, the A 131 series. As you can see, the Phoenix flying boat fighters were NOT connected to the Brandenburgs. They also differed CONSIDERABLY in design (three piece vs. one piece upper wing, radiator and strut layout, weight and dimensions (this sometimes being quoted wrongly in publications) etc. It seems the Brandenburg designs were inferior in performance to the Mickl designs; however, the only Mickl flying boat fighter that actually achieved some operational success was the single A 11, flown between October 1916 and August 1918. Even then, Banfield achieved only one CONFIRMED victory on this a/c (but claimed another 4 with it, as well as one with the Albatros A 3 - all not confirmed). In addition to the models you mentioned (and I was not aware of the Sierra W 18 before), there are also models of the CC (Classic Plane vac, quite nice) and A 11 (Czechmasters, also under the Artur and OeFH label). there's also a resin of some dubious origion of the A 119 (I gues HR/Hora is behind that one), but it is obviously based on the Joystick vac. HTH Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:00:11 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: New nifty and cheap almost OT acquisitions Message-ID: <006c01c08869$78305170$d638183f@cyrixp166> Martina Navrtalova? Cyg. :-) > Now, if only some pretty, blonde-haired, blue-eyed svelt Czech babe could > come over . . . to help me read the Czech instructions, of course. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:19:41 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Sniffing the air... Message-ID: <200101271419.GAA25755@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 06:25:47 -0500 (EST), Suvoroff@aol.com wrote: > Hmmm....A faint odor of brimstone remains, but it appears to be rapidly > clearing. YES! Welcome back, James!! However, before you tackle anything WW1, you *must* finish the SB... :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:45:49 -0600 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Morane pictures Message-ID: <3A72DF1D.6427@airmail.net> I had started out working on three submarine models, but while I was waiting for the putty to dry, I pulled out the HR Morane H. When it was ready for painting, I decided to assemble the HR Morane L, since it would be painted the same color. Now, I'm thinking I might as well build the Eastern Express Morane I, too. The subs are back in their boxes while I look for proper brass mounting pedestals. So, yes, Matt, I anticipate adding three Moranes soon. You won't have to wait long, just a few more weeks. There'll be another Fokker (Eduard D VIII-finished) and a couple more ground vehicles (Reviresco armored cars), too. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:51:18 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Morane pictures Message-ID: <200101271452.GAA13020@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:50:16 -0500 (EST), Marc Flake wrote: > I had started out working on three submarine models, but while I was > waiting for the putty to dry, I pulled out the HR Morane H. When it was > ready for painting, I decided to assemble the HR Morane L, since it > would be painted the same color. Now, I'm thinking I might as well > build the Eastern Express Morane I, too. The subs are back in their > boxes while I look for proper brass mounting pedestals. Excellent! I can't decide, lately, if Morane or Nieuport is my favorite WW1 aircraft producer's. :-) > So, yes, Matt, I anticipate adding three Moranes soon. You won't have > to wait long, just a few more weeks. There'll be another Fokker (Eduard > D VIII-finished) and a couple more ground vehicles (Reviresco armored > cars), too. Cool, can't wait to see 'em! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: 27 Jan 01 15:57:16 MET From: Friedrich Kappes To: <1ww@yahoogroups.com>, Subject: USN/USMC aircraft Message-ID: <20010127145716.9829.qmail@www0n.netaddress.usa.net> Can anybody give me the dates of entry into sservice of these aircraft? - Curtiss N2C-2 - Dayton-Wright SDW-1 - Loening M.81 - Naval Aircraft Factory N3N-3 - North American NJ-1 Thank you in advance Friedrich The FriedrichFiles http://sites.netscape.net/friedkappes Lots of nice links, pictures (photos, drawings, ...), book reviews, literature aids, a dictionary,... ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:02:00 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Sierra Models Message-ID: <000501c08872$1ad21a00$24434c0c@tom> Hi Anyone care to comment on Sierra 1/48 Vacuform models. I have never built nor seen one. The opportunity has arisen to obtain one of their kits. thanks T P ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:02:43 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Sierra Models Message-ID: <200101271502.HAA04578@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:03:17 -0500 (EST), TOM PLESHA wrote: > Anyone care to comment on Sierra 1/48 Vacuform models. I have never built > nor seen one. The opportunity has arisen to obtain one of their kits. I'll comment on Sierra overall. There are two excellent vac makers for WW1 aircraft (at least in 1/72nd) - Rosemont and Sierra. Quality is very high and I hear assembly is relatively easy (although I have yet to build a Sierra kit). You can't go wrong with Sierra... Now if they would just release more French subjects in 1/72nd... :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:18:01 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Sierra Models Message-ID: <002601c08874$57268520$5ff1aec7@default> > Hi > Anyone care to comment on Sierra 1/48 Vacuform models. I have never built > nor seen one. The opportunity has arisen to obtain one of their kits. > thanks > T P I built the Sierra Spad A.2 and I have the DFW C.V unbuilt in the pile. The Spad was an excellent kit and the DFW looks the same. My only problem is the double sided vac wings. They take a lot of work to get thin enough to look realistic. This is nothing against Bob or his Sierra kits. It is merely a comment on 1:48 double sided vac wings in general. I had the same problem with the wings on my Tom's D.II. Skinning the bottom with embossed 5 or 10 thou card seems a workable alternative. I'm replacing the D.II wings with resin ones thanks to a Listmembers generosity. In my opinion the best way to go in 1/48 models is a vac fuselage and resin flying surfaces. Near scale thickness fuselage walls with plenty of interior detailing room and razor sharp resin wings. If Bob produces a Sierra vac of the subject you want, don't hesitate to snap it up. It will take a truly exceptional injection molded or resin kit to beat it. Recommended without hesitation. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:26:30 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Sierra Models Message-ID: <000d01c08875$869a8a80$24434c0c@tom> I appreciate the response. I forgot to mention there are some sierra's available on e-bay. thanks again TP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 10:05 AM Subject: Re: Sierra Models > On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:03:17 -0500 (EST), TOM PLESHA wrote: > > > Anyone care to comment on Sierra 1/48 Vacuform models. I have never built > > nor seen one. The opportunity has arisen to obtain one of their kits. > > I'll comment on Sierra overall. There are two excellent vac makers for > WW1 aircraft (at least in 1/72nd) - Rosemont and Sierra. Quality is > very high and I hear assembly is relatively easy (although I have yet > to build a Sierra kit). You can't go wrong with Sierra... > > Now if they would just release more French subjects in 1/72nd... :-) > > > Matt Bittner > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:31:22 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sierra Models Message-ID: --part1_f7.6f1f04f.27a443ca_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The best, at least AFAIK; often the best MODEL of the type available. The 1/48 Albatros CV I did for the Cookup was a Sierra, it was easier to build than many "limited production" injection kits. Merrill --part1_f7.6f1f04f.27a443ca_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The best, at least AFAIK; often the best MODEL of the type available. The
1/48 Albatros CV I did for the Cookup was a Sierra, it was easier to build
than many "limited production" injection kits.
Merrill

--part1_f7.6f1f04f.27a443ca_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:51:43 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: London Calling.... Message-ID: <3A72EE8F.54227816@bellsouth.net> Michael Kendix wrote: (reminisce about the > film "Up the Junction"). I was wondering why this was all sounding like that Squeeze song. Thanks for the tips Mike, and Volker. I will pass them along to Hilton, who should have no problems walking the commom at night as 1) He's an american lawyer(a ferocious beast indeed), and 2) he's also a good seven feet tall. Any brigands or highwaymen better better think twice before tangling with him. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:27:42 +0700 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: London Calling.... Message-ID: Ernest, just to be sure: Tony James/TeeJay and Comet Miniatures are actually all the same. Sorry I did not remember the new name of his shop. I think Comet are his own resin SciFi thingies... Volker -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Ernest Thomas Sent: 27 January 2001 22:53 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: London Calling.... Michael Kendix wrote: (reminisce about the > film "Up the Junction"). I was wondering why this was all sounding like that Squeeze song. Thanks for the tips Mike, and Volker. I will pass them along to Hilton, who should have no problems walking the commom at night as 1) He's an american lawyer(a ferocious beast indeed), and 2) he's also a good seven feet tall. Any brigands or highwaymen better better think twice before tangling with him. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:17:36 -0000 From: "Francisca e Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Welcome back Message-ID: <006701c0887c$aaa47240$f4f441c2@pc1> Glad to see some known names back again on the roll call. Welcome home. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:51:01 -0600 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: USN/USMC aircraft Message-ID: <003a01c08889$b685e820$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> > Can anybody give me the dates of entry into sservice of these aircraft? Bust guesses > - Curtiss N2C-2 Mid to late 1930's > - Dayton-Wright SDW-1 no data > - Loening M.81 no data > - Naval Aircraft Factory N3N-3 1936-1960 > - North American NJ-1 no data HTH a little Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:13:29 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: Sierra Models Message-ID: Got to agree with Matt on this, I would love to see a Nieuport 6h. probably never happen but it would be a pretty airplane. Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Matt Bittner > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 7:06 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Sierra Models > > > On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:03:17 -0500 (EST), TOM PLESHA wrote: > > > Anyone care to comment on Sierra 1/48 Vacuform models. I have > never built > > nor seen one. The opportunity has arisen to obtain one of their kits. > > I'll comment on Sierra overall. There are two excellent vac makers for > WW1 aircraft (at least in 1/72nd) - Rosemont and Sierra. Quality is > very high and I hear assembly is relatively easy (although I have yet > to build a Sierra kit). You can't go wrong with Sierra... > > Now if they would just release more French subjects in 1/72nd... :-) > > > Matt Bittner > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:01:14 EST From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: springs Message-ID: <14.eed0ac2.27a474fa@aol.com> Matt - I'm sure you could find an application for the spring-wire somewhere in your scale. Let me know if you want me to send some to you - no problem if you want. Tom Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:05:15 EST From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OOOPS Message-ID: Nigel - I'm a urologist.......can't lower the tone any more than that!! It may be piss to you but it's bread and butter to me. Tom Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:58:57 -0000 From: "aa8." To: Subject: Re: Sierra Models Message-ID: <001501c08893$556ab340$5b0e3c3e@tinypc> For a long time Sierra listed a 1/48th scale Rumpler C.IV. I would do a lot to get that released. I E-mail Bob Norgren about it periodically but he declines to commit himself. His Web Site does say that the next release will be a Gotha G.I in both scales. I'll have both of them. I have a number of Sierra kits in my 'to do' pile. They are my favourite of the small manufacturers. I have on the bench beside me the Phoenix D.II. It cut out perfectly and is going together better than many short run injection kits and resins. Bob's kit masters must be a work of art. I can completely recomend Sierra kits Andy Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Boorman To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 6:22 PM Subject: RE: Sierra Models > Got to agree with Matt on this, I would love to see a Nieuport 6h. probably > never happen but it would be a pretty airplane. > > Ray > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > > Matt Bittner > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 7:06 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Re: Sierra Models > > > > > > On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:03:17 -0500 (EST), TOM PLESHA wrote: > > > > > Anyone care to comment on Sierra 1/48 Vacuform models. I have > > never built > > > nor seen one. The opportunity has arisen to obtain one of their kits. > > > > I'll comment on Sierra overall. There are two excellent vac makers for > > WW1 aircraft (at least in 1/72nd) - Rosemont and Sierra. Quality is > > very high and I hear assembly is relatively easy (although I have yet > > to build a Sierra kit). You can't go wrong with Sierra... > > > > Now if they would just release more French subjects in 1/72nd... :-) > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:12:40 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Sierra Models Message-ID: <200101271912.LAA23076@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:21:49 -0500 (EST), Steven M.Perry wrote: > My only problem is the double sided vac wings. They take a lot of work to > get thin enough to look realistic. This is nothing against Bob or his Sierra > kits. It is merely a comment on 1:48 double sided vac wings in general. I > had the same problem with the wings on my Tom's D.II. Skinning the bottom > with embossed 5 or 10 thou card seems a workable alternative. I'm replacing > the D.II wings with resin ones thanks to a Listmembers generosity. In my > opinion the best way to go in 1/48 models is a vac fuselage and resin flying > surfaces. Near scale thickness fuselage walls with plenty of interior > detailing room and razor sharp resin wings. And a practical guarantee - for the size - of wing droop. Sorry, but I don't agree with you at all, sp. Big wings should *not* be resin (anything in 1/48th is big ;-). I like the way Barry has gone - vac wings with everything else resin. That way you don't have to worry about droop. If you doubt me, take a look at John Huggins' *1/72nd* CM Salmson. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:37:42 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Sierra Models Message-ID: <012201c08898$9deaef40$5ff1aec7@default> > And a practical guarantee - for the size - of wing droop. Sorry, but I > don't agree with you at all, sp. Big wings should *not* be resin > (anything in 1/48th is big ;-). I like the way Barry has gone - vac > wings with everything else resin. That way you don't have to worry > about droop. > > If you doubt me, take a look at John Huggins' *1/72nd* CM Salmson. Seen it and cringed. I don't recommend resin wings be subjected to temps above room temperature for any longer than necessary. My only problems with drooping resin wings have been directly attributable to exposure to a heat source. I've had several 1/48 models with resin wings and no droop problems. Resin struts on the other hand are a whole nuther story, great for templates to make scratchbuilt ones of the correct size and shape, but worthless for support, Vac single surface wings are the greatest for 1:72, I love them. I'm just too inept to do a proper job on double surface quarter scale ones. Barry has the right idea in 1/72. The extra room in a vac fuselage is nice, but the crispness of surface details in resin is especially nice (and needed) in1/72. sp sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:50:01 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sniffing the air... Message-ID: In a message dated 1/27/01 3:23:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, Suvoroff@aol.com writes: << Hmmm....A faint odor of brimstone remains, but it appears to be rapidly clearing. Yours, James D. Gray >> Yes! Good to see your name appear again! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:50:05 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwith and Giants cookup Message-ID: In a message dated 1/26/01 4:43:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, sljenkins@tac.com.au writes: << We're back! >> All right! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:02:19 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OOOPS He Did It Again, More Tom Morgan On Hyperscale Message-ID: In a message dated 1/27/01 4:18:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, nigel@rosnar.demon.co.uk writes: << Mind you, Michael Jackson couldn't look any weirder, even with a Zeppelin Staaken grafted on to his head. Sorry for lowering the tone, Nigel >> Thanks for another painting idea....... RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:11:33 -0800 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: am I subscribed? Message-ID: <000401c0889d$58cdcfe0$d7f7303f@f4w2s5> I seem to have been bumped from the list, can someone reply if this gets through. TKS Gabe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:14:14 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: am I subscribed? Message-ID: --part1_d5.1924563.27a48616_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit came through fine, Gabe Merrill --part1_d5.1924563.27a48616_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit came through fine, Gabe
Merrill

--part1_d5.1924563.27a48616_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:17:02 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: am I subscribed? Message-ID: <20010127201702.19599.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> I'm receiving it. Todd --- Limon3 wrote: > I seem to have been bumped from the list, can > someone reply if this gets > through. TKS > Gabe > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:22:45 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Petrol Tanks Message-ID: <002701c0889f$02dba2e0$41ed19ce@Pvosburg> Were the gas tanks on Camels (and presumably the Swallow, which is what I'm working on) natural metal or japanned? Was japanning fuel-proof? Inquiring minds want to know. Belated thanks to all who answered my last question on cockpits, DB, Witold, (great photos, you guys!) SP, and especially Cyg. DV ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:36:31 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Petrol Tanks Message-ID: <85.6213d01.27a48b4f@aol.com> --part1_85.6213d01.27a48b4f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A good question, the oil tanks were covered with a dark glossy coat, enamel or lacquer, but I don't know about the petrol tanks, the only photo in the DF shows what might be white paint or natural metal on the ends (and only shows the end). I'd like an answer to this myself, I've been painting them silver for years, assuming they were aluminum, but they look to be steel. Merrill --part1_85.6213d01.27a48b4f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A good question, the oil tanks were covered with a dark glossy coat, enamel
or lacquer, but I don't know about the petrol tanks, the only photo in the DF
shows what might be white paint or natural metal on the ends (and only shows
the end). I'd like an answer to this myself, I've been painting them silver
for years, assuming they were aluminum, but they look to be steel.
Merrill

--part1_85.6213d01.27a48b4f_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:40:12 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: am I subscribed? Message-ID: <000f01c088a1$594e74c0$61434c0c@tom> Your on. TP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Limon3" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 3:10 PM Subject: am I subscribed? > I seem to have been bumped from the list, can someone reply if this gets > through. TKS > Gabe > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:42:58 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: am I subscribed? Message-ID: <200101272158.NAA00784@mail.rapidnet.net> Doesn't matter if we see it .. unsubscribed folks can still send messages.. . therefore it is meaningless to reply 'Yes I see you". . .. as an unsubscribed person WILL NOT SEE IT unless it is sent direct to them. in order for him to see if he is still subscribed he needs to do a recipients wwi request to listproc@pease1.sr.unh.edu Bob Who sent this offlist as well > --- Limon3 wrote: >> I seem to have been bumped from the list, can >> someone reply if this gets >> through. TKS >> Gabe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:13:21 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Sierra Models Message-ID: <200101271613_MC2-C354-989D@compuserve.com> Someone, Can some one give me the web site address of Sierra Models? If his next release is the Gotha G.I, I do want to make sure I'm on the list to get one. Thanks in Advance. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.nbci.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 1/19/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:56:36 -0000 From: "aa8." To: Subject: Re: Sierra Models Message-ID: <002101c088ac$07051560$88193c3e@tinypc> Dennis Try address below for Sierra. There are some nice pictures of the finished product too. http://sierrascale.hypermart.net I just can't wait for a Gotha G.I Andy Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Ugulano To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 9:18 PM Subject: Re: Sierra Models > Someone, > > Can some one give me the web site address of Sierra Models? If his > next release is the Gotha G.I, I do want to make sure I'm on the list to > get one. > > Thanks in Advance. > > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > http://members.nbci.com/Uggies/dju.htm > Page Revised 1/19/01 > "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3018 **********************