WWI Digest 3012 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Brandenburg D.I and Sworls by "Lance Krieg" 2) Re: FMP Victoria Cross by "Lance Krieg" 3) Re: Toko bogus fabric, was Re: Brandenburg D.I by "Hans Trauner" 4) Two guns are better than one! by "Sandy Adam" 5) RE: Laskodi's Strutter by "Laskodi" 6) Re: Two guns are better than one! by "diaphus" 7) Re: Brandenburg D.I by "Laskodi" 8) RE: Graham Hunter's Fantastic Bristol "Bullet" by "Graham Hunter" 9) RE: Laskodi's Strutter by "Matt Bittner" 10) Re: "Color Profiles of World War I Combat Planes" by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 11) Re: Brandenburg D.I by "Matt Bittner" 12) Sikorskii S.16 Markings by Todd Hayes 13) Re: Graham Hunter's Fantastic Bristol "Bullet" by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 14) Re: Sikorskii S.16 Markings by "Michael Kendix" 15) Re: Toko bogus fabric, was Re: Brandenburg D.I, RE: Fiber Pen by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 16) Banned User by Allan Wright 17) administrivia by Allan Wright 18) Administrivia #2 by Allan Wright 19) Nick Sander.= Fiber pen by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 20) Re: FMP Victoria Cross by "Bob Pearson" 21) Re: Sikorskii S.16 Markings by Todd Hayes 22) RE: Rumpler Internal Designations by "Graham Nash" 23) Re: Toko bogus fabric, was Re: Brandenburg D.I by Jan Vihonen 24) Re: Toko bogus fabric, was Re: Brandenburg D.I by Jan Vihonen 25) Re: Toko bogus fabric, was Re: Brandenburg D.I, RE: Fiber Pen by Jan Vihonen 26) Re: Do you have the airplane reflex? by "Landon, James D" 27) Roden Gotha G.III by "aa8." 28) And now for something completely different by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 29) Re: FMP Victoria Cross by "DAVID BURKE" 30) 1:72 Fokker Dr.I Stripdown by Todd Hayes 31) Gavia news by "DAVID BURKE" 32) RE: 1:72 Fokker Dr.I Stripdown by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 33) Re: 1:72 Fokker Dr.I Stripdown by "DAVID BURKE" 34) Aeroplane Reflex by knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 35) SAM Feb 2001 by David Fleming 36) Re: Gavia news by Todd Hayes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:32:34 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Brandenburg D.I and Sworls Message-ID: Bruce is inquiring after this, and I see that Dennis Ugulano has completed a D.I in such a finish. I guess I always assumed that these machines had CDL wings, and the sworl was used on Albatros products, but I haven't really tracked that down. Anyway, Americal does NOT market that sworl fabric, mostly because Dr. Merrill has not been persuaded as to the colors involved. (Too bad, it's a great look.) I seem to recall at least some white paint in the cockpit, in an effort to improve the pilot's vision inside the plane - the instruments are well forward, right?, and illuminated by round windows in the top of the fuselage? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:38:23 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: FMP Victoria Cross Message-ID: Hmm. Modesty will prevent Bob Pearson from replying, I suppose, as the man responsible for the profiles in this book. In comparing it to the A-H tome and the 56 Sqdn. work, you might be disappointed in the color content. Profiles are limited to one or two machines per VC recipient, and not the lavish spreads found in those other books. The thrust of the book is more to profile the pilots than the planes. In my opinion, of course... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:53:41 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Toko bogus fabric, was Re: Brandenburg D.I Message-ID: <007d01c086ef$5f33a620$9ea372d4@custom-pc> > If you can find out the name of the apparatus, then please let >us know. This sounds too good to pass up. This glass fibre brush is not an tool extra for archeologists. It is orginally made for removing ink on technical drawings, it's an 'ink eraser'. Due to CAD systems drawing by hand and a rotring pen has come to an end and the need to erase), but ask at your lokal shop which is dealing with such stuff ( or better, which dealed some time ago) Hans ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:56:51 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Two guns are better than one! Message-ID: <00d701c086ef$ec8ad0c0$1fe8b094@sandyada> > Did anyone ever answer the question about whether two guns > were better than one, according to some pilots. I thought > that was an interesting question, I haven't an answer though. > /Neil > >No, and I originally posed the question. Inquiring minds want to know! In his autobiog, Raymond Collishaw writes of getting his later Tripehound with two guns instead of one. He says something along the lines of finally, at last being a two-gun man and able to compete on level terms of firepower with the enemy. He is pleased as punch about this and leaves no doubts that he, at least, thought any weight penalty more than outweighed by firepower, reliability and backup. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:20:09 -0800 From: "Laskodi" To: "Post WW1 List" Subject: RE: Laskodi's Strutter Message-ID: <000d01c086f3$12164c40$263819d0@laskodi> <<>> Thanks for the kind compliment Matt, but I'm afraid I'm not into "self-molestation" or "dis-abuse" (wasn't that the term we were kicking around before?). I only enjoy doing it to others! ---------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:25:44 -0500 From: "diaphus" To: Subject: Re: Two guns are better than one! Message-ID: <001e01c086f3$d9a02560$cd551a18@tampabay.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Adam" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: Two guns are better than one! > > Did anyone ever answer the question about whether two guns > > were better than one, according to some pilots. I thought > > that was an interesting question, I haven't an answer though. > > /Neil > > > >No, and I originally posed the question. Inquiring minds want to know! > > In his autobiog, Raymond Collishaw writes of getting his later Tripehound > with two guns instead of one. He says something along the lines of finally, > at last being a two-gun man and able to compete on level terms of firepower > with the enemy. He is pleased as punch about this and leaves no doubts that > he, at least, thought any weight penalty more than outweighed by firepower, > reliability and backup. > Sandy > Thanks, Sandy! Seems logical from a fighter pilot's perspective... Jack Gartner diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:25:59 -0800 From: "Laskodi" To: "Post WW1 List" Subject: Re: Brandenburg D.I Message-ID: <001701c086f3$e2c1cae0$263819d0@laskodi> >>> However, don't let that stop you. Some of these problems are due to my > anal modeling... :-) > > Isn't that painful? :-p>>> Oh my gawd, does this mean that Matt's disease is communicable? I am building the CSM Snipe for a museum and I have just finished re-working the Clerget into a Bentley. Does this mean that this disease is catching? Help me pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! --------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:42:11 -0600 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: Graham Hunter's Fantastic Bristol "Bullet" Message-ID: <000301c086f6$264c8640$fa0101c0@grahamh> Thanks Bob, Coming from a master like yourself means alot :-) Graham H. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:08:24 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Laskodi's Strutter Message-ID: <200101251808.KAA21851@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:24:30 -0500 (EST), Laskodi wrote: > Thanks for the kind compliment Matt, but I'm afraid I'm not into > "self-molestation" or "dis-abuse" (wasn't that the term we were kicking > around before?). I only enjoy doing it to others! Ah, a sadist instead of a masochist. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:08:09 EST From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: John_Impenna@hyperion.com, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "Color Profiles of World War I Combat Planes" Message-ID: <1e.106eaeec.27a1c589@aol.com> Thanks for that tip, John! ~Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:09:13 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Brandenburg D.I Message-ID: <200101251809.KAA25111@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:32:25 -0500 (EST), Laskodi wrote: > Oh my gawd, does this mean that Matt's disease is communicable? I am > building the CSM Snipe for a museum and I have just finished re-working the > Clerget into a Bentley. Does this mean that this disease is catching? Help > me pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Truth be told, I was never afflicted with this disease until joining this list. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:24:40 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Sikorskii S.16 Markings Message-ID: <20010125182440.80635.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Folks, Does anyone know of a source for markings for a 1:48 Sikorskii S.16? TIA TH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:26:41 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Graham Hunter's Fantastic Bristol "Bullet" Message-ID: <9d.105aded4.27a1c9e1@aol.com> In a message dated 1/25/01 10:25:07 AM EST, laskodi@launchnet.com writes: << our very own Graham Hunter has his absolutely beautiful Bristol featured today at Hyperscale. Go to: http://www.hyperscale.com/gallery/bristolm1cgh_1.htm >> I've said for a long time that is one nice kit to start a model from. Graham shows very well just how good it is when a good modeler gets hold of it. In a word: WOW!!! TC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:41:49 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sikorskii S.16 Markings Message-ID: Go to http://home.sprintmail.com/~tbittners/AG/ Americal does a 1/48 set of Russian cockades.. Michael >From: Todd Hayes >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Sikorskii S.16 Markings >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:28:20 -0500 (EST) > >Hi Folks, > >Does anyone know of a source for markings for a 1:48 >Sikorskii S.16? > >TIA > >TH > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:03:54 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Toko bogus fabric, was Re: Brandenburg D.I, RE: Fiber Pen Message-ID: In a message dated 1/25/2001 8:58:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi writes: << Toko bogus fabric, was Re: Brandenburg D.I >> A friend of mine, who is an archaeological conservator uses a small glass fibre brush in cleaning certain kind of metal objects. Hello Jan, I also have one of these brushes, they are sold I believe by Micro Mark small tools here in the USA. I bought mine though in my local auto parts store. Here they are used to remove rust and feather down the edges of chips in auto paint before on uses touchup paint to cover the blemish. It's a great little tool just be careful when you use it as the tips are made of fiberglass and will break off and you can get them in your skin or lungs, wear a mask when you use this tool. Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:15:22 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Banned User Message-ID: <200101251915.OAA28714@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Modelers, Unfortunately the time has come to do what I had hoped would never have to happen. After a couple of personal warnings, I have finally had to ban Tom Cleaver. I didn't want to but he insisted to participate in a way that is contrary to the list's charter. While I can configure the list software to prevent posts from a user, with the various free mail services out there on the internet it is possible for a user to continue to post after they have been locked out. I don't think Tom is that type of person, but if he does end up posting please just ignore or delete the posts. I'll deal with it as best I can. And to Tom, it is a shame to lose such an accomplished modeler who often contributed positively to the list but unfortunately I had no choice. Thank you, now let's get back to the models! Allan Wright - List Moderator =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:25:06 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: administrivia Message-ID: <200101251925.OAA28924@pease1.sr.unh.edu> please ignore test post =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:26:32 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Administrivia #2 Message-ID: <200101251926.OAA28942@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Test post, please delete..... =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:26:44 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Nick Sander.= Fiber pen Message-ID: <58.659010c.27a1d7f4@aol.com> In a message dated 1/25/2001 9:28:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: << This sounds too good to pass up. >> Hi Matt, I just checked the Fiber-pen I have and it's called a "NICK Sander" it comes with 2 tips and I paid about $5.00 for it at my local Pep Boys Auto parts store 2 years ago. If you cannot locate one let me know and I'll take a look to see if they still carry it here. Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:19:21 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FMP Victoria Cross Message-ID: <200101252044.MAA06010@mail.rapidnet.net> > Modesty will prevent Bob Pearson from replying, I suppose, as the man > responsible for the profiles in this book. In comparing it to the A-H tome > and the 56 Sqdn. work, you might be disappointed in the color content. > > Profiles are limited to one or two machines per VC recipient, and not the > lavish spreads found in those other books. The thrust of the book is more > to profile the pilots than the planes. There are 20 aircraft profiled in top and side views, with a couple of bottom views as well. They depict the aircraft that was used in the action for which the recipient was cited. B6313 was also included as it is just too cool. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:08:48 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sikorskii S.16 Markings Message-ID: <20010125200848.97370.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Michael, I have the A/G Russian sheet on order. What I'm looking for are individual markings. These are for the Master Club Sikorskiis. I'm surprised that the kits don't include any decals. ICM is supposed to be doing the S.16 too so I'll probably have to wait until it is released. Todd --- Michael Kendix wrote: > Go to > > http://home.sprintmail.com/~tbittners/AG/ > > Americal does a 1/48 set of Russian cockades.. > > Michael > > >From: Todd Hayes > >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > >To: Multiple recipients of list > > >Subject: Sikorskii S.16 Markings > >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:28:20 -0500 (EST) > > > >Hi Folks, > > > >Does anyone know of a source for markings for a > 1:48 > >Sikorskii S.16? > > > >TIA > > > >TH > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great > prices. > >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:10:24 -0000 From: "Graham Nash" To: Subject: RE: Rumpler Internal Designations Message-ID: Thanks for the clarification, Volker. Could I ask your sources? This is not so I can check your findings, merely (hah!) that it may be a resource I wish to add to my collection (if I can find it, that is). BTW. I haven't forgotten your interest in my Database. I am just doing some sorting out/cross--checking, and I will e-publish it as an RTF file (about 550kb as a zipped attachment), in the same format as Barry Ketleys' book, 'The Reference Source Guide to Military Aeroplanes 1914-1918' published by Hikoki(1992), free of charge to all interested list members:-). Uncle Sniffy -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Volker H�usler Sent: 21 January 2001 15:04 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Rumpler Internal Designations AFAIK, the Rumpler designations changed in 1917. First phase up to 1916: First Number: year Letter: Main design (no connection to the engine, eg 4A13 has a Mecedes engine, 4A14 a Benz)A=biplane, B = Biplane seaplane, C = Monoplane, D ?, E= Flying Boat, F= Monoplane Seaplane second number: individual design in above class eg: 5A2 = first Landplane Biplane design of 1915 (= Ru C I), 5A15 = 15th landplane design of 1915 (=Ru G I) Second phase 1917/1918: Letter changes to official designation, ie D for fighters (7D1 to 7D7, 8D1), C for recce/army coop a/c (eg 7C1), the last numbers now not necessarily showing subtypes only (eg, 7D6 totally different from 7D7). As I was unsubbed for a day or so (due to a "system upgrading" of my provider, I guess, I don�t know wether this information was already posted before. Volker -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Graham Nash Sent: 21 January 2001 21:02 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Rumpler Internal Designations Thank for the response Lance :-). So far, all I can tell you is that the first number (4,5,6,7,8) defines the year (of design?) to whit: 1914=4, 1915=5, 1916=6 etc. I thought that the Letter refered to the German Military system, B=2 seater, D=1 seater, but the 7A type was not a monoplane, so you suggestion of A (for Argus?), B (for Benz), D for (Daimler/Mercedes) makes a lot of sense. The final letter may then just refer to the number of designs that year. Any more ideas anyone? Uncle Sniffy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:22:58 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Toko bogus fabric, was Re: Brandenburg D.I Message-ID: <3A708B22.DF1E8C76@helsinki.fi> "Harris, Mack" wrote: > Jan, I found this item http://www.promotorcarproducts.com/pahtp.htm > > Does this look anything like what you're talking about? Yes. It looks basically same. Jan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:31:27 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Toko bogus fabric, was Re: Brandenburg D.I Message-ID: <3A708D1E.A35E194D@helsinki.fi> Hans, If you mean pointed tip brush (like some felt tip fine point marker pens), that's another thing. The one I mean has a flat, rounded tip, like a rod end that has been cut by sawing perpendicularly. Jan > This glass fibre brush is not an tool extra for archeologists. It is > orginally made for removing ink on technical drawings, it's an 'ink eraser'. > Due to CAD systems drawing by hand and a rotring pen has come to an end > and the need to erase), but ask at your lokal shop which is dealing with > such stuff ( or better, which dealed some time ago) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:34:11 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Toko bogus fabric, was Re: Brandenburg D.I, RE: Fiber Pen Message-ID: <3A708DC3.CD690FD5@helsinki.fi> Jon, I agree with you regarding the bits of fiberglass getting everywhere. And yes, it might be good idea to wear a mask. Jan > Hello Jan, I also have one of these brushes, they are sold I believe by Micro > Mark small tools here in the USA. I bought mine though in my local auto parts > store. Here they are used to remove rust and feather down the edges of chips > in auto paint before on uses touchup paint to cover the blemish. It's a great > little tool just be careful when you use it as the tips are made of > fiberglass and will break off and you can get them in your skin or lungs, > wear a mask when you use this tool. > Best regards, > Jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:39:52 -0700 From: "Landon, James D" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Cc: "JDL via hotmail (E-mail)" , Subject: Re: Do you have the airplane reflex? Message-ID: Hi all, On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 02:48:34 EST, Tom said: My mother used to love to tell people that the first word I ever said was "o-pane", as I pointed up at the P-38 that flew over us in Observatory Park in Denver, on its way into landing (I have since surmised) at Lowry Army Air Forces Base (later Lowry AFB, where I saw a lot of airplanes I will never forget, foremost among them a B-36 and an F-104, while growing up).>> Small world. Lowry AFB is about 30 minutes from me. It was closed years ago, and it's now a subdivision of new homes and businesses, except for 2 or 3 hangars. One hangar is where the museum is located that I volunteer at ... "Wings Over the Rockies Air and Space Museum ... http://www.dimensional.com/~worm/ It was named after LT. Francis Lowry who was killed in 1918 while flying as an observer in a Salmson 2A2. That's why I was asked to build a Salmson 2A2 for the museum. See http://communities.msn.com/Salmson2A2 And, yes, I certainly do look up whenever I hear an engine. And I thoroughly enjoyed the WWI Rendezvous at the USAF Museum last Fall. Have lots of photos I always meant to scan and send to Allan ... like the full size precise replica SE5a being built ... no covering yet, so you could see all the internal construction. I stared at it forever and shot lots of pics and then went back and looked at it again. No, I never did re-subscribe. But today I took a little extra long lunch to read a few archives. If anybody replies, cc me directly as well as the list. I usually don't have time to read the archives. Although Lee Mensinger and Diego Fernetti are sweethearts about sending me things on the list that pertain to me. Thanks guys. Later, Jim Landon List semi-member http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Landon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:52:39 -0000 From: "aa8." To: Subject: Roden Gotha G.III Message-ID: <00a701c08713$1a618160$2c253c3e@tinypc> I paid a flying visit to Hannant's London store today. On the new releases shelf sat the Roden Gotha G.III. Price about �16.95. I didn't buy one, unfortunatley I have far exceeded my modelling/book buying budget this month. I also have to support a model shipbuilding thing out of the same budget. But it's there if you want it. Regards Andy Jones ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:00:14 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: And now for something completely different Message-ID: Well the museum job is done. (actually I have to finish converting a prop for a Hurri and make up a couple of depth charges to sling under its wings, but THAT"S IT!!!) Hoo-yeah back to the land of real planes. Where to begin? The flashback Fokker EV? The Eduard Roland? The ongoing Sopwith Tripe? Do I attempt to revive the crippled DVa from the cook-up? Maybe a big multi-engined job? Not sure but I don't care as long as it's OT!!! MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:18:53 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: FMP Victoria Cross Message-ID: <006201c0871d$56f87a20$3de579a5@com> Lance wrote: > Modesty will prevent Bob Pearson from replying, I suppose, as the man responsible for the profiles in this book. Like hell! Remember when he 'helped' me to recognize that it was his (excellent) handiwork? >In comparing it to the A-H tome and the 56 Sqdn. work, you might be disappointed in the color content. Agreed, but I like the stories of the pilots too, and for this it is quite nice - especially Mannock. > > Profiles are limited to one or two machines per VC recipient, and not the lavish spreads found in those other books. The thrust of the book is more to profile the pilots than the planes. Yup, and though more profiles would have been nice, it's nice reading. > > In my opinion, of course... An opinion that I respect and totally agree with. Buy the book! DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:29:48 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: 1:72 Fokker Dr.I Stripdown Message-ID: <20010125222948.41178.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> This kit is now listed on the VAMP website for $15. Just thought you might like to know. TH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:31:58 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Gavia news Message-ID: <000901c0871e$a2687fe0$3de579a5@com> Hey Y'all, I just looked at the Eduard website and saw that Gavia was planning a 1/48 Bristol Scout C. That would be a nice one to add to the collection! Also an injection Alb. D.II. Is life getting better, or what? DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:34:05 -0800 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: Subject: RE: 1:72 Fokker Dr.I Stripdown Message-ID: If we're lucky and the international postal service functions well, there should be a peek at this kit in the February Internet Modeler. Sincerely, Chris Banyai-Riepl Publisher/Illustrator Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com > > This kit is now listed on the VAMP website for $15. > Just thought you might like to know. > > TH > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:32:42 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: 1:72 Fokker Dr.I Stripdown Message-ID: <000f01c0871e$bc46d060$3de579a5@com> > This kit is now listed on the VAMP website for $15. > Just thought you might like to know. > > TH Tempting... Wrong scale, of course, but tempting... DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:52:14 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Aeroplane Reflex Message-ID: <200101252252.XAA12263@mail-relay.eunet.no> Yes, I have the aeroplane reflex, look up whenever I hear an aircraft or helicopter and consider distance, light and available cameras for photo possiblities. Some years ago I was outside the house with my son pointing to a SeaKing. Look, I said, an aircraft. His answer "thats a helicopter like the ones you fly to your vessel, not an aeroplane" gained the three year old the largest ice-cream cone I could get hold of here.. Another reflex I belive is shared by other list members is the one causing me to check out the local bookshops when I go someplace new. Even if it may not be modelshops or aircraft museums in every town, most have a bookshop where there is a chance of finding something OT. Earlier today, I found "Kaptein B�lcke - mine luftkampe" a Norwegian edition of his diary and letters home printed in Kristiania 1917. Didn`t know about this book, at 50NOK (6USD) I consider it a bargain. Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:45:05 +0000 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: SAM Feb 2001 Message-ID: <3A70AC71.528D7D25@dial.pipex.com> Fans of OT aircraft in slightly different markings may like to check out the new Scale Aircraft Modelling, which has an article on the early Finnish Air Force. ~15 OT aircraft types, including the most amazing Fokker DVII in a 4 colour splinter scheme. (Thulins, Albatros, DFW, Nieuports, M5s, Friedrichshafen, Fokkers, SPAD, Rumpler, Caudron, Breugeuts, Martynsides, HB seaplanes.) Recommended ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:00:03 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Gavia news Message-ID: <20010125230003.24228.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> Dave, The Alb. D.II is by Eduard. They're doing two; early and profi. Didn't you see the Alb.W4 also listed? Todd --- DAVID BURKE wrote: > Hey Y'all, > > I just looked at the Eduard website and saw that > Gavia was planning a > 1/48 Bristol Scout C. That would be a nice one to > add to the collection! > Also an injection Alb. D.II. Is life getting > better, or what? > > > DB > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3012 **********************