WWI Digest 2997 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) diary of investigation available by "Gaston Graf" 2) Re: ot heads-up by DNSH@aol.com 3) Re: Roden Gotha G-V announcement by Ernest Thomas 4) RE: Giant Cookup by Shane Weier 5) Re: Eduard 1/72nd D.V help by Scottfking@aol.com 6) RE: What's on the Bench? by Shane Weier 7) Re: Giant Cookup by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 8) Re: Junkers book by Eli Geher 9) RE: Giant Cookup by Shane Weier 10) Re: Giant Cookup by "Steven M.Perry" 11) Re: Giant Cookup by "Steven M.Perry" 12) RE: What's on the Bench? by Shane Weier 13) RE: Kits for Kids Update by Shane Weier 14) RE: Wood simulation by Shane Weier 15) RE: wood simulation again by Shane Weier 16) Re: Kits for Kids Update by Ernest Thomas 17) RE: Kits for Kids Update by Shane Weier 18) Another web site update by Dennis Ugulano 19) Re: ot heads-up by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 20) Kits Wanted by Rob & Sherry 21) Re: What's on the Bench? by "Richard Eaton" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:16:02 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: diary of investigation available Message-ID: Friends, today I opened the diary of investigation regarding the war crimes committed by the German troops on Belgian civilists at the time Manfred von Richthofen saw action in the region of Arlon-Virton in Belgium, close to the Luxembourgish border. If you are interested to read about the first steps I took to investigate in this matter please feel free to visit the Jasta Boelcke website. You may access the new Manfred von Richthofen page from the ACES section, as usual. The most interesting thing for most of you could be the detailed map that I linked to the diary page. You can see how tiny the Grand-Duchy of Luxembourg is and you can see where MvR saw action with the Uhlan regiment No.1. Please notice that the size of the map file is 398kb!!! This means it will take a little whil until the page will be loaded on your computer. If you feel bored and want to close the fullscreen window please hit Alt+F4 or scroll down to use the Java-Button. Aah yes, the red dot on the map shows you where I live ;o). sincerely Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:28:56 EST From: DNSH@aol.com To: Cc: Subject: Re: ot heads-up Message-ID: <7a.f783c8e.279ccaba@aol.com> Hi List, My name is Dan Hartz. I've been subscribed to the list for about two years now and have enjoyed it greatly. This is actually only the second time I've posted to the list because I prefer responding privately if I can help others with a question. However, I have become somewhat fed up with the constant unwarranted attacks on Pegasus Models and Chris Gannon by one of the other listees. I recently corresponded with Mr. Gannon about this subject and have included his response below. My intent is not to cause problems on the list, but I truly am tired of Mr. Cleaver's behavior here and on RMS. Not too long ago we had the conversation about how we need to encourage the small manufacturer and, if I recall correctly, Mr. Cleaver was one of the big proponents of that same message. But, since that time, we still have to endure the attacks without the constructive criticisms to show us how to correct a problem if it exists. Pegasus is an important manufacturer for our segment of the hobby, and as such, I feel we need to encourage instead of tear down their efforts. I apologize in advance for the backlash I'm sure this post will bring upon us, but as I've said, I'm tired of it and want to take a stand. I also apologize for the length of this e-mail, but I wanted to keep everything in context. Take care, Dan Hartz Subj: Re: Information Date: 1/21/01 9:05:17 AM Pacific Standard Time From: (Chris Gannon) To: DNSH@aol.com Dear Dan, I thank you very much for your message, this is not the first I have received on this subject, or Mr. Cleaver for that matter. It is very disheartening to read Mr. Cleaver's comments esp. as I have never sent him any of our kits for review! He contacted us directly last year to be added to the advance notice newsletter address book, and in the space of a short correspondence I attempted to correct several of his mis-informed views on short-run kit production. He did ask me to participate in a form of interview, but to this day I have not received any copy. I understand that many of the contributors to your newsgroup are unhappy with his comments - is this the time maybe to stand up and be counted? Naturally there is nothing we here can do to satisfy Mr. Cleaver's pathological hatred of our products, but I do wonder what motive lies behind it all - you mentioned very correctly that your forum is supposed to be for WW1 models? What is a diatribe on the Spiteful doing there indeed? In its intended form I am sure that much of interest and worth has been imparted to modellers and WW1 fans the world over. Anyway, one satisfied customer like yourself is worth ten Mr. Cleavers, and if people use their own eyes to view our products this will go some way to avoid the damage he seeks to do. I would like to reassure you that you are but one of many of your WW1 mailing list to take the trouble to write to me regularly registering their astonishment at his comments. We can put up with his constant ravings, but I am truly saddened at the increasing amount of e-mails, etc. I receive from your members who are genuinely upset by his actions. The fact that they take the time and trouble to reassure me that not everybody feels that way, and that I should not 'tar you all with the same brush' reveals to me, the true underlying appreciation of our products. I would be the first to agree that no kit that we have ever made is perfect, I have never claimed them to be. But I do think that the level of caustic criticism evident on the pages of the WW1 mailing list is, shall we say; 'A little over the top'! Modelling 'used' to be for fun, that was why I got into it in the first place. Whilst I still derive immense pleasure from completing a model, I cannot begin to explain to you the sense of pleasure I get every time I see one of our humble models transformed into the scale replicas I often see at model shows, or via pictures sent in by satisfied customers (yes, they do exist!!) If you wish to publish this e-mail on your WW1 mailing list I would be in agreement, however, I do not intend to embroil myself in an eternal slinging match with Mr. Cleaver. I simply want to thank all the members like yourself for their kind and thoughtful comments that I am so often in receipt of. Perhaps the time has arrived for members such as yourself to put the 'fun' back into your newsgroup? - I wish you all the best of luck, and once again, thanks to you Dan, and everybody who has taken the time and trouble to write to us in the past. Regards, Chris Gannon. Pegasus Models. In a message dated Sat, 20 Jan 2001 2:14:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, TomTheAeronut@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 1/19/01 6:29:05 PM EST, btheobal@sta.samsung.com writes: << Tom, you have been so overwhelmingly caustic of Chris Gannon in the past a review of one of his products by you is useless to me. Perfect he ain't, but his kits are as good or better than other stuff we all pay money for. I'm amazed someone, especially Chris, sent one to you to review. >> Well, I did, because - unknown to the rest of you - I have been having a continuing conversation with him about the technical problems of BM kits, which is leading to an interview I sent him last week (sent the questions) that he is going to answer and explain stuff (without giving away trade secrets). Because of that, I feel I don;t wish toi publicly bash his new product, and merely describing its problems in objective detail will be taken as a bash. OTOH, I also happen to like you guys, and so, as circumspectly as possible, I tried to let you know privately that there was a major problem here. As you all know, I have been very forthright in my critiques of BM kits; as I said to Chris - and as he understood - were the kits not basically worthy, I would not have given a rat's ass about them. The difference with those and the problem at hand is that those kits present a series of problems within the kit which are fixable. Past scratchbuilding the current product and calling it the "Silver Cloud kit," there is no way of fixing it, any more than there is a way to make the Aurora Bristol Fighter - which originated from incorrect information (the Wylam drawings) - into an accurate representation of that airplane. Now if you want to disprove my theory that all members of this list are geniuses, go right ahead on, Brett. Tom Cleaver >> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:34:43 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roden Gotha G-V announcement Message-ID: <3A6B7212.546291CC@bellsouth.net> Ok, ok. I know everyone is all excited about the Roden Gothas coming out and all. And I may even buy a couple of these myself, even if they are in dinky scale. But I'd like to make this heretical proposition to the group with respect to this model; Let's start a betting pool. The person who correctly guesses which struts will need fixing or replacing wins....??????? what? E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:40:08 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Giant Cookup Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748A85@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> SP, > > Unfortunately Juan of Sopwith is out of Passchendaele D.II wings, so I > encounter another delay in finishing my Albatros. Cyg, do you > have any in stock? Anyone have a spare pair for sale or trade? LMK. I've got a length of balsa and a sheet of 10thou. Any help? ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:33:30 EST From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard 1/72nd D.V help Message-ID: <32.f89a932.279cd9da@aol.com> In a message dated 1/20/01 2:29:45 PM EST, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: << For those who have built the Eduard 1/72nd D.V. Is it possible to add the guns *after* the fuselage halves are together? I really don't want to put them on until then. Yes, I am working on the first cook up entry, why do you ask? ;-) >> Matt, Presumably you are building the ProfiPack version? I hope you didn't have as much fun with the PE cockopit as I did. I dropped it so many times, the forward seat supports and the rudder pedal frame broke off . Finally got it in to the fuselage but got it misaligned and crumpled the rear bulkhead. I nearly launched the whole thing across the room, but finally got it in. Hope to complete it w/o any more problems. At least my other cookup entry (1/48) is done, need to submit photos though. Skippy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:42:41 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: What's on the Bench? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748A89@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> CBR says > Hey, the only reason I build those ot kits is so that I can > screw up on > those and build the OT stuff to absolute perfection. That's > my excuse and > I'm sticking to it..... Looks like you have a screw-up to perfection ratio close to mine :-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:46:18 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Giant Cookup Message-ID: <003901c0840c$bc7b11f0$d237183f@cyrixp166> Please by all means, make up a few. Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 6:43 PM Subject: RE: Giant Cookup > SP, > > > > > Unfortunately Juan of Sopwith is out of Passchendaele D.II wings, so I > > encounter another delay in finishing my Albatros. Cyg, do you > > have any in stock? Anyone have a spare pair for sale or trade? LMK. > > I've got a length of balsa and a sheet of 10thou. Any help? > > ;-) > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > ********************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:01:44 -0600 From: Eli Geher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Junkers book Message-ID: <3A6B8678.84962E25@hiwaay.net> Either language. My copy is in english translation. ISBN 3-344-00303-8, Transpress VEB Verlag, Berlin, 1988 Eli D Charles wrote: > > Eli, > > Is this one in English oder Deutsch? > David > > >Books: > > > >. Hugo Junkers and His Aircraft by Gunter Schmitt > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:05:51 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Giant Cookup Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748A8C@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Cyg, > > I've got a length of balsa and a sheet of 10thou. Any help? > Please by all means, make up a few. ROTFL I was thinking more along the line of testing SP's skill in trying to emulate your stuff. I'm not quite that silly (IMHO I hasten to add !) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:08:34 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Giant Cookup Message-ID: <007f01c0840f$d9eae640$b2f1aec7@default> I've got a length of balsa and a sheet of 10thou. Any help? ;-) Shane Please by all means, make up a few. Cyg. Thanks Cyg. I just got off a 12 hr shift at the dookie plant, (If Gaston can call his train a ChoCho, I can call my "Water Reclamation Facility" a dookie plant), and I was slap out of snappy comebacks. Yeah Shane, whip up a couple more for me while you're at it. ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:19:16 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Giant Cookup Message-ID: <008b01c08411$57f8af80$b2f1aec7@default> > > Please by all means, make up a few. > > ROTFL > > I was thinking more along the line of testing SP's skill in trying to > emulate your stuff. I'm not quite that silly (IMHO I hasten to add !) > > Shane I hear the annoyingly persistent sound of a gauntlet impacting my cheek. Bob has already rescued me with a set of D.II wings. However, the cockpit & nacelle of my DH.2 survived BvBs tender attentions completely intact. That was all though. So it needs some wings. I accept your challenge to scratch some wings and I intend to meet meet them on the "Modeling Bench of Honor" at sunrise. No.11 Xactos & steel rulers at 10 paces. Well one of these sunrises soon, I have a couple more projects ahead of it but definitely this year. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:12:38 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: What's on the Bench? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748A8E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Brent, being nosy, says: > What's everyone working on? I've also noticed several posts mentioning > deadlines. How many of these projects on the bench are for customers, > magazines or webzines? ON the bench- 1/48 Sopwith Snipe (Blue Max) This is a review kit, and I really shouldn't have been so long over it. I plead terminal stupidity, since the delay is the result of painting the model three times, twice *very* badly. The kit itself is terrific. 1/350 Konig (ICM) Also a review. Coming along slowly, as ships do in my experience. Just about ready to paint the main hull and lower superstructure after finally deciding on the sequence I'll use. Damn, but masking these things is a PITA BESIDE the bench- 1/48 Albatros W.4 (Scratch) All the bits are made, I just need to paint, decal and assemble. Quite pleased with the dimpled look of the fuselage which (I hope) judges will realise isn't just dodgy master making ! 1/48 Caproni Ca.3 (Scratch) I have an engine master, an MG master and some wings formed but not yet refined. Waiting on info (and time) 1/48 LVG C.VI I have a basswood fuselage (for the wooden parts) and some crash moulded cowls (for the metal parts), plus a roughly formed engine master. Still a million miles to g, which is closer than the Caproni :-( 1/72 Roden Dr.I Hey, I cleaned up the parts, and I *will* build it, truly! WAY ABOVE the bench- Several ot models. Yeah, I keep buying them, and tossing them up on the top shelf, but it's years since one even got opened. I blame you guys :-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:24:13 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Kits for Kids Update Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748A90@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> SP tells us about: > "Why I Build Models" writeup & short description of the list - E. Hot diggitty! This one *I* would like to read. There's nothing quite like reading other peoples excuses to inspire your own. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:28:23 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Wood simulation Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748A91@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Hans asks: > What's about your U.S. wonder Future? > Has anybody > tried to tint it orange or brown? I do exactly that, and have done for years (pre list - seems odd that such a time existed) I tint with watercolour *pencil* though - yellow ochre, indian red, burnt sienna etc. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:35:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: wood simulation again Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748A92@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Lee recommends > With some of the comments I woould guess thatr Tamiya paints > may need a > "wetting agent" like they use in Film processing. A little > drop might > do it if you really want to brush it on. Kodak made a thing > like that > and I am sure others did as well. Just a thought since that > is an agent > in soap products also. Never used the stuff but it is the chemistry > that makes the difference and "a little drop'll do ya. I use a bottle of Kodak "Fotoflo" (IIRC, label fell off in about 1975, but the brown glass bottle has "Kodak" moulded in it) - the one bottle has lasted me all the intervening years. I use *one* drop in a large glass of water and find that's plenty. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:38:38 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Kits for Kids Update Message-ID: <3A6B9D2E.9E8FC712@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > Hot diggitty! This one *I* would like to read. There's nothing quite like > reading other peoples excuses to inspire your own. You've already read it, as I've stated my reasons on the list many times. Because chicks dig modelers! E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:41:49 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Kits for Kids Update Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748A93@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> E > > Hot diggitty! This one *I* would like to read. There's > > nothing quite like > > reading other peoples excuses to inspire your own. > > You've already read it, as I've stated my reasons on the list many > times. > > Because chicks dig modelers! Yeah, yeah. I bet that's not what you told 'em. C'mon, fess up. I bet you said something *real* nice and totally non-heretical :-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:09:48 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Another web site update Message-ID: <200101212210_MC2-C297-E93@compuserve.com> Everyone, Another change to the German page and I promise this will be the last one for a while. I've added the Pegasus SSW D.III and the TOKO SSW D.IV to German/Siemens Schuckert page. The D.III was built right after its release and was the kit without any metal parts. The decals are probably Americal but it's been too long to know for sure. The D.IV is OOB with Pegasus decals. The feed back is the page seems to be working ok. The British page will be next as it is growing very large. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.nbci.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 1/19/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:51:29 -0800 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ot heads-up Message-ID: <3A6CAB61.10EE297E@tac.com.au> DNSH@aol.com wrote: > > Hi List, > > My name is Dan Hartz. I've been subscribed to the list for about two years now and have enjoyed it greatly. This is actually only the second time I've posted to the list because I prefer responding privately if I can help others with a question. However, I have become somewhat fed up with the constant unwarranted attacks on Pegasus Models and Chris Gannon by one of the other listees. > > I recently corresponded with Mr. Gannon about this subject and have included his response below. My intent is not to cause problems on the list, but I truly am tired of Mr. Cleaver's behavior here and on RMS. Not too long ago we had the conversation about how we need to encourage the small manufacturer and, if I recall correctly, Mr. Cleaver was one of the big proponents of that same message. But, since that time, we still have to endure the attacks without the constructive criticisms to show us how to correct a problem if it exists. Pegasus is an important manufacturer for our segment of the hobby, and as such, I feel we need to encourage instead of tear down their efforts. I apologize in advance for the backlash I'm sure this post will bring upon us, but as I've said, I'm tired of it and want to take a stand. I also apologize for the length of this e-mail, but I wanted to keep everything in context. Hi Dan, We're both sorry to see you "de-lurk" in this manner, but we welcome your input. Hopefully we'll see more posts from you in the future. Although both Lorna & I have yet to build any Pegasus/Blue Max kit, we BOTH heartily agree with the above post. I posted a while back on the "flaming of Chris Gannon" over the "wing ripple" affair (see wwi Digest 2074 url: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/mail-archive/archive.2000/2074 ). We both still stand by that post. We also see that during the abovementioned thread Mr Cleaver posted to the effect that he would never review another Chris Gannon product. This may have been written in a moment of pique as so many of his posts seem to be but it is an interesting reversal from this position to find that he is reviewing another Chris Gannon product. We both find the fact that he sent back a review kit unreviewed to be the action of spoiled child who writes only for himself & not his readership. Readers of reviews want to know what, if anything, is wrong with the kit and more importantly how to fix it if they choose. This is what they expect a reviewer to do. In refusing to review this kit, no matter the personal feelings (or in fact skill level), Mr Cleaver has betrayed the trust granted to reviewers by their readership. We find this lapse of integrity disturbing, particularly in a reviewer who has so often stated in various public forums that his integrity is the most important thing to him. We both realise that is likely to be a cold day in hell before Mr Cleaver pays any attention at all to an opposing view (esp ours). However, we too, feel a stand is warranted as we are tired of both his on topic AND his off topic rantings. Shane & Lorna Jenkins ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:15:01 -0500 From: Rob & Sherry To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Kits Wanted Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010121231501.00882100@pop-server.tampabay.rr.com> Hey! I am looking for the following kits in 1/72 scale. If you have any of them that you want to part with, please contact me. Thanks Rob Sopwith Camel (not Academey) Sopwith Pup Sopwith Dolphin Sopwith Triplane SE5A Nieuport 28 Nieuport Triplane Pfalz DR.1 Handley Page Airfix Hannover ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:01:18 -0600 From: "Richard Eaton" To: Subject: Re: What's on the Bench? Message-ID: <00b701c08430$5e9e4060$b5441c18@austin.rr.com> Shane seems to be slacking off a tad:-) Only two reviews, three scratch builds, one oob, and some off topics in the que............ Shane, mate, could we pick up the pace a tad? Regards, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 8:17 PM Subject: RE: What's on the Bench? > Brent, being nosy, says: > > > What's everyone working on? I've also noticed several posts mentioning > > deadlines. How many of these projects on the bench are for customers, > > magazines or webzines? > > ON the bench- > > 1/48 Sopwith Snipe (Blue Max) This is a review kit, and I really shouldn't > have been so long over it. I plead terminal > stupidity, since the delay > is the result of > painting the model three > times, twice *very* > badly. The kit itself is > terrific. > > 1/350 Konig (ICM) Also a review. Coming along > slowly, as ships > do in my experience. Just > about ready to paint > the main hull and lower > superstructure after > finally deciding on the > sequence I'll use. Damn, > but masking these things > is a PITA > > BESIDE the bench- > > 1/48 Albatros W.4 (Scratch) All the bits are made, I just need to > paint, decal > and assemble. Quite > pleased with the dimpled > look of the fuselage which > (I hope) judges will > realise isn't just dodgy > master making ! > > 1/48 Caproni Ca.3 (Scratch) I have an engine master, an MG master and > some wings > formed but not yet > refined. Waiting on info (and time) > > 1/48 LVG C.VI I have a basswood fuselage (for > the wooden parts) and > some crash moulded cowls > (for the metal parts), plus > a roughly formed engine > master. Still a million miles > to g, which is closer than > the Caproni :-( > > 1/72 Roden Dr.I Hey, I cleaned up the parts, and I *will* > build it, truly! > > WAY ABOVE the bench- > > Several ot models. Yeah, I keep buying them, and tossing them up on the top > shelf, but it's years since one even got opened. I blame you guys :-) > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2997 **********************