WWI Digest 2993 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Hannant's and PV-7 by Todd Hayes 2) Re: What's on the Bench? by "cameron rile" 3) Re: Hannant's and PV-7 by "DAVID BURKE" 4) Guys, clue me in! by "DAVID BURKE" 5) Re: Hannant's and PV-7 by Todd Hayes 6) Re: ot heads-up by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 7) Latest Windsock by "Nigel Rayner" 8) RE: Spad G.1 by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 9) RE: What's on the Bench? by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 10) Re: Spad G.1 by "Len Smith" 11) Re: Giant Cookup by "Len Smith" 12) RE: Latest Windsock, What's on the bench by "Nigel Rayner" 13) Web site update by Dennis Ugulano 14) RE: ot heads-up by Brent Theobald 15) Spare kits to trade by "Steven M.Perry" 16) Re: Web site update by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 17) Re: Giant Cookup by "Matt Bittner" 18) Re: Web site update by "Matt Bittner" 19) Re: What's on the Bench? by "Dale Sebring" 20) Re: ot heads-up by "Dale Sebring" 21) Re: Web site update by Dennis Ugulano 22) Re: Web site update by Dennis Ugulano 23) Re: What's on the Bench? by "Tom Solinski" 24) Re: What's on the Bench? by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 25) Re: What's on the Bench? by "TOM PLESHA" 26) Re: Hannant's and PV-7 by "DAVID BURKE" 27) Manfred von Richthofens Uhlan regiment No 1, Alexander III... by "Gaston Graf" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:08:24 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hannant's and PV-7 Message-ID: <20010120050824.20524.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> I was just looking through a book with some photos of BE2's. One that really intrigues me is a BE2c with FLOATS! The rudder is modified (larger) but with that exception and the floats, I can't see much difference. Todd --- Limon3 wrote: > Todd & Dave, > I agree, I just zipped the fuselage up on the BE, so > far I have been very > impressed with this model. The clean up work was > minimal, and the metal > parts fit together very well. I'm not looking > forward to rigging this > puppy, however. > Gabe > > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Hayes > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Date: Friday, January 19, 2001 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: Hannant's and PV-7 > > > >Dave, > > > >I like the comparison of the PV7 finish. The BE2c > is > >very impressive. I like the older Aeroclub kits > but > >IMO they've taken a major step forward with the > BE2c > >in terms of overall quality. My next purchase is > the > >BE2e. > > > >Todd > > > >--- DAVID BURKE wrote: > >> Hi Guys, > >> > >> I THOUGHT the postman was making alot of > noise > >> this A.M.! I went > >> downstairs and lo and behold - a box from > Hannant's! > >> I ordered this stuff > >> just before Christmas, so it's been a month or > less. > >> What was inside? > >> Well, not my Aeroclub Meteor F.8 (hey, I'm a > sucker > >> for short-wing Meteors - > >> one of my fave jets!). What WAS inside was my > >> Aeroclub B.E.2.c and my PV-7 > >> from HR Model. Please allow my in-box review of > >> both here. > >> > >> First, I'll discuss my impressions of the HR > >> Models Grain Kitten. It > >> looks cute, fairly simple, and the resin of the > >> major surfaces (i.e. the > >> wings and fuselage) have a surface texture that > >> resembles a cross between > >> Edward James Olmos' and Manuel Noriega's faces. > >> Goodness! More accurately, > >> it looks like the surface of a particularly rough > >> orange, and though it will > >> be easy to remove and fill, there is some nice > rib > >> detail on the wings and I > >> just wish it weren't neccessary to replace it. > >> > >> However, any shortcomings in the Grain Kitten > >> are more than blown away > >> by the B.E.2.c! While I bitch and moan to no end > >> (well, I DO get > >> overshadowed on occasion) about model producers, > I > >> can't say but ONE thing > >> not in favor of the Aeroclub kit: I wish the > >> instruction drawings were a > >> little more involved. But it really isn't a > major > >> point. Aeroclub even > >> tries to represent the fabric ripples at the > >> intersection of the fuselage > >> members - something that I've seen on alot of > A/C, > >> but have never tried to > >> reproduce myself. It may well be that this kit > (or > >> the Aeroclub F.E.2.b) > >> will be the first kit that I 'start-to-finish' in > my > >> new house! > >> > >> The HR kit is cheap. Buy one, it > should > >> make a nice model once > >> cleaned up. > >> > >> BUY THE B.E.2.c! Hell, BUY EVERYTHING > THAT > >> AEROCLUB MAKES! They > >> have a new friend! > >> > >> > >> DB > >> > >> ..still a happy Hannant's customer.... > >> > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:23:54 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: What's on the Bench? Message-ID: <28D2B7D565EE4D115AE50005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com> >Not to worry, all my stuff is OT: lol, same here. Esci Camel, Esci/Roseplane DVII, CSM Snipe, Czechmaster DH5 & Roseplane Martinsyde. cam Australian Flying Corps - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:31:12 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Hannant's and PV-7 Message-ID: <000d01c082a2$412aa300$0591aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Hayes" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 11:12 PM Subject: Re: Hannant's and PV-7 > I was just looking through a book with some photos of > BE2's. One that really intrigues me is a BE2c with > FLOATS! The rudder is modified (larger) but with that > exception and the floats, I can't see much difference. > > > Todd Hell, I just picked thru the white metal parts. I thought the BM Lewis gun was nice! This Aeroclub one is really a beauty. And the white metal engine! WOW! I want to get another one to dress up and put next to the B.E.!! Aeroclub is really making a new friend here! Not to mention that I have the Dragon Rapide (O.K., it's ot, but still has 2 wings!), the Fee, and one of their BAC Lightnings (one of the coolest-looking things to fly, IMHO). And then I want my Meteor F.8. And maybe a B.E.2.e. Then I'll catch my breath and get back to work on my 1/48 Gotha G.Vb (I re-located the parts and will soon build a vac-form rig to do corrected engine nacelles. I may also correct the fuselage and use it to master vac replacements so I can add the framework and extra detail). DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:34:06 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Guys, clue me in! Message-ID: <001501c082a2$a0fe3120$0591aec7@com> Hey Neil and Eli, It's obvious to me that you guys have the skinny and I'm blowing like a gale. So before I go off listing things in an attempt to look like I know what the hell I'm rambling about, can you suggest some good reading material on A/C development? Not that I want to remove an easy target, but I like to have more of an idea what I'm talking about! Thanks! DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:42:01 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hannant's and PV-7 Message-ID: <20010120064201.66434.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Dave, I, too, was really impressed with the white metal in the kit. Some of their previous stuff seemed kind of chunky but the parts in this kit are very well done. I just ordered the BE2e from Linden Hill. Sounds like you have your hands full and where the HELL did you get a 1:48 G.Vb!!!? I'm really looking forward to Eric's G.III. Have you checked out Squadron's specials this month. I just got a BM CL.II for $29.95! Todd --- DAVID BURKE wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Todd Hayes" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 11:12 PM > Subject: Re: Hannant's and PV-7 > > > > I was just looking through a book with some photos > of > > BE2's. One that really intrigues me is a BE2c > with > > FLOATS! The rudder is modified (larger) but with > that > > exception and the floats, I can't see much > difference. > > > > > > Todd > > Hell, I just picked thru the white metal parts. I > thought the BM Lewis gun > was nice! This Aeroclub one is really a beauty. > And the white metal > engine! WOW! I want to get another one to dress up > and put next to the > B.E.!! Aeroclub is really making a new friend here! > Not to mention that I > have the Dragon Rapide (O.K., it's ot, but still has > 2 wings!), the Fee, and > one of their BAC Lightnings (one of the > coolest-looking things to fly, > IMHO). And then I want my Meteor F.8. And maybe a > B.E.2.e. Then I'll > catch my breath and get back to work on my 1/48 > Gotha G.Vb (I re-located the > parts and will soon build a vac-form rig to do > corrected engine nacelles. I > may also correct the fuselage and use it to master > vac replacements so I can > add the framework and extra detail). > > > DB > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 02:12:37 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ot heads-up Message-ID: <6a.a914ec8.279a9465@aol.com> In a message dated 1/19/01 6:29:05 PM EST, btheobal@sta.samsung.com writes: << Tom, you have been so overwhelmingly caustic of Chris Gannon in the past a review of one of his products by you is useless to me. Perfect he ain't, but his kits are as good or better than other stuff we all pay money for. I'm amazed someone, especially Chris, sent one to you to review. >> Well, I did, because - unknown to the rest of you - I have been having a continuing conversation with him about the technical problems of BM kits, which is leading to an interview I sent him last week (sent the questions) that he is going to answer and explain stuff (without giving away trade secrets). Because of that, I feel I don;t wish toi publicly bash his new product, and merely describing its problems in objective detail will be taken as a bash. OTOH, I also happen to like you guys, and so, as circumspectly as possible, I tried to let you know privately that there was a major problem here. As you all know, I have been very forthright in my critiques of BM kits; as I said to Chris - and as he understood - were the kits not basically worthy, I would not have given a rat's ass about them. The difference with those and the problem at hand is that those kits present a series of problems within the kit which are fixable. Past scratchbuilding the current product and calling it the "Silver Cloud kit," there is no way of fixing it, any more than there is a way to make the Aurora Bristol Fighter - which originated from incorrect information (the Wylam drawings) - into an accurate representation of that airplane. Now if you want to disprove my theory that all members of this list are geniuses, go right ahead on, Brett. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:07:22 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Latest Windsock Message-ID: <000001c082b8$040e1900$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Hi all, Just got the latest Windsock. Lots of good content (eg second part of St. Harry's Voisin article). However, the highlight is an excellent article by Lance on the building of his HB D12. We already knew it was an amazing piece of work, but the article really shows the detail and workmanship in the model. Fantastic stuff (like Tom's Halberstadt last month). The other interesting piece of news is that the Albatros website will be operational soon, including a forum for exchanging modelling ideas. I'll be interested to see how that develops. Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:14:09 +0700 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Spad G.1 Message-ID: Todd asked: "Subject: Spad G.1 Anyone here know anything about this aircraft? Omega Models has one in preparation." There was a SPAD Type G or SG, an interim step between the A series and the later 7. Basically an A with fixed guns in the Nacelle in front of the prop and no gunner. Also the first single seater SPAD fighter. I guess that will be the one. Sources: FMP French A/C, FMP IRAS, Air International vol 10 no 5 & 6 (SPAD Story) Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:53:47 -0800 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: Subject: RE: What's on the Bench? Message-ID: Hey, the only reason I build those ot kits is so that I can screw up on those and build the OT stuff to absolute perfection. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it..... Chris > I'm not sure, since I haven't checked the archives, but has a > longer string > of ot obscenities ever been uttered on the list? :-) > > I know, there are a few OT's sprinkled in there. > > Later! > > Brent > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:22:20 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Spad G.1 Message-ID: <003b01c082ca$a42b9c20$1b867ed4@mesh> Todd, The only reference I have is in the FMP Russian book. It is a drawing of the A/c and shows an A2 or A4 Spad lookalike but with the gunner removed from the front pulpit and replaced by three machine guns. In the event of jams or running out of ammunition some extremely high quality gymnastics would be required from the pilot. regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Hayes" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 7:52 PM Subject: Spad G.1 > Anyone here know anything about this aircraft? Omega > Models has one in preparation. > > TIA > > TH > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:11:57 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Giant Cookup Message-ID: <003c01c082ca$a5e7a400$1b867ed4@mesh> Mark, My knowledge of Germaniac Aircraft is minimal to non-existant, but I vaguely recall an article in Windsock on a Linke-Hofmann R.II, a SINGLE engined aircraft with a span of roughly 130ish feet. This might provide some listees with a rest from the multitude of 0/100s,0/400s, DH3s and10s, Blackburn Kangaroos and GP Seaplanes, Vimys and Felixstowes which I am sure they are already planning to build. No doubt some of the more adventurous will be looking at the FMP French book and its selection of Bleriots, Voisins and Caudrons. The possibilities are almost endless. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Vaughan-Jackson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: RE: Giant Cookup > Multi-engine is a good catchall category. . .that way the truly insane > among us (and you know who you are) might consider a Zepp or two, in > Balloon scale, of course. ;-) > > Perhaps rather than treating a giant cookup as we have the Tross and > Sopwith ones, we could make it an ongoing thing for those interested. Have > a regular short term cook-up and have a Giant page that just trundles along > minding its own business. With an open ended time frame people could take a > break from their Sopwith or Nieuport or whatever and hit a giant for a > while, filing updates to the site as and when they come up. > > I know that I want to eventually have a complete set of all the > multi-engined variants and I know i'll be wizened and grey before they are > done. having an ongoing giant site might be the way to go. Take after > Tolkein and list the web page "Here be Giants" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:27:40 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: Latest Windsock, What's on the bench Message-ID: <000001c082dc$61ab34c0$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Hi all, Just to correct my previous post slightly, Windsock won't have an online Forum. Ray is encouraging people to send in modelling tips/hints, some of which will then be published in Windsock. He alluded to the wealth of WWI modelling info available on the Web and wants to share it with a wider audience. Also, there is a single pic of a really nice Spad XI by the list's Neil Crawford. Excellent piece of work, well done Neil. As to what's on the bench, it's the Pegasus BE2e. About 2/3 done, dreading all that rigging. Next projects are my first ot kit (forgive me for I have sinned but it's only just ot - an ICM Il-400), the Flashback Strutter and the Gotha (ordered today). BTW, the GV is not available yet - it's on the Hannant's site but no price yet. Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:25:16 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Web site update Message-ID: <200101200825_MC2-C269-E479@compuserve.com> Everyone, Over the past few weeks Tech Support and I have overhauled the German page on my web site. It should load much faster as each model now has it's own page. Let me know how it works. A new model has been added, the Gotha G.IV by Rareplanes. It was my second vac. I added it in anticipation of the Roden Gotha. My order has been placed and I am pacing back and forth waiting. Also added is the SSW D.I (a conversion) and a Miekraft Albatros D.I I broke out of my slump and a little Spad 7 found its way to it's new owner. The Fokker B.II is progressing slowing but showing promise. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.nbci.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 1/19/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 07:29:22 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: ot heads-up Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79EC76@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy, >Now if you want to disprove my theory that all members of this list are >geniuses, go right ahead on, Brett. Hah hah! All the members can't be geniuses as long as I keep hanging around. And, Tim, it's BreNt. :-) Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:41:45 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Spare kits to trade Message-ID: <006d01c082e6$bba64960$27f9aec7@default> I have an extra Toko HB-29 and a Pegasus DH-4 to trade. Also several Toko/Eastern Express Nie.11s. Looking for old 1/72 vacs or Merlins. LMK sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:25:41 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web site update Message-ID: <67.e9a17fc.279af9e5@aol.com> Now I know why they call him the boy genius. Uggie, do me a favour, just put your hand in this meat grinder and................ cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:37:31 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Giant Cookup Message-ID: <200101201437.GAA01067@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 05:25:09 -0500 (EST), Len Smith wrote: > My knowledge of Germaniac Aircraft is minimal to non-existant, but I vaguely > recall an article in Windsock on a Linke-Hofmann R.II, a SINGLE engined > aircraft with a span of roughly 130ish feet. This might provide some > listees with a rest from the multitude of 0/100s,0/400s, DH3s and10s, > Blackburn Kangaroos and GP Seaplanes, Vimys and Felixstowes which I am sure > they are already planning to build. No doubt some of the more adventurous > will be looking at the FMP French book and its selection of Bleriots, > Voisins and Caudrons. The possibilities are almost endless. I sure wish Sierra, Rosemont or whomever *would* come out with more of the "larger" French birds. To add to the above list, Paul Schmitt, AR.2, etc. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:47:29 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Web site update Message-ID: <200101201447.GAA20498@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:29:46 -0500 (EST), Dennis Ugulano wrote: > A new model has been added, the Gotha G.IV by Rareplanes. It was > my second vac. I added it in anticipation of the Roden Gotha. My order > has been placed and I am pacing back and forth waiting. Cool. Very nice. > Also added is the SSW D.I (a conversion) and a Miekraft Albatros > D.I Most excellent! Great conversion. I started one years ago, but abandoned it when the Aero Image was released. Since then Meikraft also released one. Maybe I'll have to work on one of them one of these days... Where did you get the cockpit info? Or did you "just make it up"? Excellent job on all - as usual - Dennis!! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 07:52:07 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: What's on the Bench? Message-ID: <000b01c082f0$901f34a0$dfb58dd0@main> 1/48 Aviatik C.1, Sopwith Baby-Italian, Ansoldo SVA, Spad 12 conversion, Nieuport 27, 1/72 Camel. Regards, Dale ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:09:38 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: ot heads-up Message-ID: <003b01c082f3$02eca1a0$dfb58dd0@main> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Theobald" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 6:32 AM Subject: RE: ot heads-up > Howdy, > > >Now if you want to disprove my theory that all members of this list are > >geniuses, go right ahead on, Brett. > > Hah hah! All the members can't be geniuses as long as I keep hanging around. > > And, Tim, it's BreNt. :-) > > Later! > > Brent Hey BreNt, has that little item taken off for me yet? Just curious, I love this list! Regards, Dale ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:14:30 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Web site update Message-ID: <200101201014_MC2-C262-4FD2@compuserve.com> Peter, Uggie, do me a favour, just put your hand in this meat grinder and................ Ouch. That would slow me down some. I'm glad you liked it. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.nbci.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 1/19/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:14:28 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Web site update Message-ID: <200101201014_MC2-C262-4FD0@compuserve.com> Matt, Thank you very much. >> Where did you get the cockpit info? Or did you "just make it up"? << It's made up. I have no information of the interior of the D.I so I just put in some dots and circles and put it on the shelf. It was an easy conversion. Ray did the prototype that had a little more work to do. I did a production model that was a little easier. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.nbci.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 1/19/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:26:10 -0600 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: What's on the Bench? Message-ID: <013c01c082f5$511e1be0$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> ON the work bench: scattered tools, dust, dirt, R/C car batteries, wire solder and connectors for those batteries. In the spray booth: a five year old suchoi -15, a three year old polar lights lost in space diorama, a five year old matchbox Indianapolis, a five year old matchbox San Diego, a matchbox bell jetranger scout (four blades), a revell Ger Hindenberg, a 90% finished, painted decaled, needs rigging Testors SPAD, a 50% started Glenco AH Albatros. All piled behind outside temps in the 20 to 50 degree fairenheit range and a stack of procrastination. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:44:33 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: What's on the Bench? Message-ID: A Nieuport 10 in the manly scale. Plus, my eleven year old has just decided he's interested in railways. No sign of an OT trench loco yet I'm afraid, just an Anglesized Lima Dutch Deisel. From the "out of the mouths of babes" file though: "so modelling is mostly watching paint dry then?" Well, I hadn't really thought about it, but the kid has a point ;) cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:54:39 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: What's on the Bench? Message-ID: <002301c082f9$4cc4b000$0b454c0c@tom> All 1/48 Sopwith Pup, Camel Taperwing, Dornier D.1, Mc200 Tom P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Sebring" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 9:58 AM Subject: Re: What's on the Bench? > 1/48 Aviatik C.1, Sopwith Baby-Italian, Ansoldo SVA, Spad 12 conversion, > Nieuport 27, 1/72 Camel. > > Regards, > Dale > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:50:11 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Hannant's and PV-7 Message-ID: <003a01c08301$d00ea300$efea79a5@com> Todd asked: >Sounds like > you have your hands full and where the HELL did you > get a 1:48 G.Vb I'm re-working the old Aurora Gotha (just picked up a second one for extra parts) and by using the Windsock book, I'm scratchbuilding the 'box' tail for it. Should be pretty impressive if and when finished! AFTER the Camel and probably after the Showbird SPAD! DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:06:02 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Manfred von Richthofens Uhlan regiment No 1, Alexander III... Message-ID: Friends, yesterday I started invastigation about the war crimes of the Huns commited on Belgian civilians in August of 1914, which was excactly the time Manfred von Richthofen saw action in the regions of Arlon and Virton in Belgium, not even half a hour to drive from my house. Manfred himself mentionned in his book that angry young Arlonians was awaiting him as he came down the steeple of the church he climbed to have a better overview over the location. He furthermore talked having learned later that the reason for their anger was Belgian civilians being put to the wall because they wanted "to participate a bit to much in the war" like he expressed it. Also he was on patrol in the region of Virton as he spend atleast one night at an abbey, which was seemingly the abbey of Orval which still exists today. The monks produce first class dark Belgian beer and cheese there and they do have a website as well which is in French. On the other morning some monks got hung on the latern poles because they too wanted to participate a bit to actively in the war... But WHO hung them? My questions to the list: Does anybody have any detailed information about the Uhlan regiment Manfred von Richthofen belonged to, which was the "Schleswig Uhlan regiment No 1, Alexander III"? To what Cavalry Division did the regiment belong to? If I could find that out I could probably trace his excact way from Luxembourg to Belgium. In my corner of the country quite a lot of cavalry activities was going on, including melees with the French cavalry. It is my goal to find out if von Richthofens unit was involved in the war crimes against the Belgian civilians or not because only very little is known about the cavalry time of von Richthofen. Only yesterday I was in Arlon because I drove passenger trains between Arlon and Luxembourg. On a break I went to the switcherhouse and asked the Belgian collegues about the little monuement which was placed near the railroad tracks in Arlon station, reading the follwing: In Memorium 28 Août 1914 This monument was placed for a bunch of civilians of a little village nearby who got excecuted by the Huns because they informed the French cavalry about the presence of the enemy. I will contact local authorities as well as press editors in all of the locations where von Richthofen operated to find out more about the events. Also I will contact the monks of Orval abbey to ask if they kept any records. I will post my progresses at my website in form of a diary of investigation. Perhaps I will know more about the cavalry time of von Richthofen in a few months or so. I expect the invastigation being time consuming. What I also want to do is to post pictures of the locations at my site to show the rest of the world how it all looks like today. stay tuned! Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2993 **********************