WWI Digest 2990 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Gotha sprues at Roden site by Witold Kozakiewicz 2) Re: WWI digest 2989 by "Bucky" 3) RE: Most Important? by Crawford Neil 4) Re: Gotha sprues at Roden site by "Matt Bittner" 5) Re: Giant Cookup by "Matt Bittner" 6) RE: Gotha sprues at Roden site by "Matt Bittner" 7) RE: Most Important? by Crawford Neil 8) Re: Giant Cookup by "aa8." 9) Re: Giant Cookup by "cameron rile" 10) Re: Price of Toko/Roden, was Thanks Neil and Steven by "Michael Kendix" 11) Re: Giant Cookup by David Fleming 12) RE: Price of Toko/Roden, was Thanks Neil and Steven by Crawford Neil 13) New images by "Matt Bittner" 14) Re: Price of Toko/Roden, was Thanks Neil and Steven by Jan Vihonen 15) Re: Price of Toko/Roden, was Thanks Neil and Steven by Jan Vihonen 16) RE: Giant Cookup by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 17) Re: Price of Toko/Roden, was Thanks Neil and Steven by Jan Vihonen 18) RE: Gotha sprues at Roden site by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 19) Re: Giant Cookup by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 20) Re: Gotha sprues at Roden site by Lee 21) Fotocut Booklet by huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins) 22) More updates by "Matt Bittner" 23) Kit request by "Matt Bittner" 24) Re: Kit request by "Dale Sebring" 25) Re: Gotha sprues at Roden site by "The Shannons" 26) Re: Site Update by "The Shannons" 27) The scale that dare not speak its name by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 28) Gotha on Hannants website - was Gotha sprues at Roden site by knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:12:38 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Gotha sprues at Roden site Message-ID: <3A67F6F6.DDC69B04@bg.am.lodz.pl> Matt Bittner napisa³(a): > No you're not, but am I missing something? I see no parts, just an > image of the box top and the artwork used for the box. > > Matt Bittner I had the same problem using Netscape. I thing the Roden website is optimized for MSIE. Try http://www.rodenplant.com/IMG/GothaGII/ There are *.gif flies with sprues. Next version of Gotha will be G.V. It is on Roden site in Model Kits section. Kit #016 planned for 2001. This one could be lozenge covered. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:09:38 +0900 From: "Bucky" To: Subject: Re: WWI digest 2989 Message-ID: <001f01c08208$50970e40$094207d3@compaqcomputer> Not that I'm actually interested in a 1/72 model of ANY plane (except maybe a B-36 Peacemaker, and then MAYBE), not even a Gotha (although you can bet your sweet bippy I'm gonna buy this one anyway when it hits the local shelves), but do believe I detect Gotha V "power egg" engine nacelles on those Roden sprues, and if you'll notice, the straight wings, fuselage and all the other stuff that makes a III a III are all on separate sprues. Methinks I smell a Gotha V in the wind from the Roden crew. Now why don't they get around to doing one in he-man scale?!?! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: WWI digest 2989 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:17:51 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "WW1 list (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Most Important? Message-ID: Thanks Dave for your very good post, here are my comments to your "quantum leaps in development": Ailerons. These were developed by Glenn Curtiss very early on. Many a/c had ailerons before WW1. Synchronised guns. Patented by Schneider before WW1. But this was anyway a fairly simple mechanical device that didn't need a lot of decvelopment work. I'm on a sticky wicket here so I'll give you this one. Powerplant developments in WW1 were incremental. The Breguet CU.1 had a Canton-Uné water-coooled radial before the war. The real goal was a reliable air-cooled engine, that came with the Cosmos Jupiter (Bristol Jupiter) and the Wright Wirlwind, both of these weren't properly developed until after the war. On-line engines were mostly improvements of the Daimler pre-war engines, with the exception of Marc-Birkigts Hispano -Suiza, I'm not sure but I think most of the development work on that was pre-war. The real lift came with the Curtiss-Kirkham D12 after the war, which revolutionized engine development with its internal cooling channels in a single monoblock casting. Radio communication. Nothing new about this, using it from the air was just an application. Aerial bombardment was first used before the war, I can't remember the details but I think Harry Woodman mentioned the turks using it. Metal airframes. The first use of metal airframes was by Breguet in 1910, he had some kind of steel-shelled wood construction. Vickers were also experimenting with this pre-war. Most early attempts were overweight. I agree that Junkers and Fokker did some good development work during WW1, but technologically both were dead-ends. The real breakthrough came in at the 1922 Paris Air Salon where Bernard presented their C1, that was the first stressed skin monocoque in aluminium. >From there Northrop, Douglas and all the others followed. Ceiling,range,speed and load-carrying were all improved by refining existing technology. Compare the Sopwith Tabloid with the Snipe, basically they are the same, just improved all round. Incidentally the 1913 Depperdussin was faster than anything in the war. Photo-recconnaissance was thought up and tryed out before the war. And some you missed: Cantilever wings was Hugo Junkers greatest development, but he patented that in 1910 , the thick wings that Junkers and Fokker developed weren't really such a good idea. Later research has shown this. Monocoque fuselages were brilliantly demostrated by Becheraeu (Depperdussin) before the war. Metal propellors were actually experimented with during the war, but the breakthrough were the Reed propellers post-war. Radiator technology was sadly lacking in WW1, Lamblin introduced theirs after the war, massive experimentation was done in the twenties before the glycol cooled pressurised systems were introduced around 1929 (Curtiss P1 I believe) Metallurgy made massive advances in the 20's ,that was when Duralumin and Alclad was developed. Fuel, the schneider trophy races of the twenties and early thirties saw massive increases in octane ratings, and hp increases from 250hp to 2500hp, thats what I call a quantum leap. I'm not qualified to comment on the other areas you mention, but I suspect that if you dig deeply enough, much of it was pre-war development. I'm not saying that you are completely wrong Dave, but I do think that "technological advances in wartime" is something of a myth. WW1 only lasted 5 years, so it is natural that not an awful lot happened, certainly a lot of things did, but the really difficult research and development came before and after. Hardly surprising because all the bright guys were busy getting killed in the trenches. As to your idea of the 31-year war, there is something in that too, but I think there have been two other big motivations for aviation development, money and racing. Earning money by selling to the millitary is one way, but a lot of money was also invested for the development of civil aviation. /Neil mples, I would cite: ailerons, synchronized guns, powerplant develpoments (rotary to radial, for example), radio communication from the air, aerial bombardment, metal airframes and skin, 15,000 ft. (+) ceilings, airspeed that approached 130MpH (70MpH was fast in 1914), heavy load-carrying, long range, aerial photoreconnaisance, and other developments. On the ground, we see that the idea of the armored tank was invented and developed, poison gas, artillery developments, etc. The sea saw (see-saw?) the use of the combat submarine (the Holland-type engine-driven boat), tordepoes, armor-piercing naval shells, and different classes of ships - the Destroyer, IIRC. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 05:37:38 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Gotha sprues at Roden site Message-ID: <200101191137.DAA04274@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:08:07 -0500 (EST), Todd Hayes wrote: > uh Matt, try scrolling down to the bottom past the > text. I have, and there's nothing there past the specs table. Could it be a Netscape problem? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 05:38:34 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Giant Cookup Message-ID: <200101191138.DAA05405@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:30:24 -0500 (EST), GRBroman@aol.com wrote: > Hey Matt, I hear the Giant Cookup means anything 1/48th scale or larger... Good! That means I don't have to worry about it. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 05:41:04 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Gotha sprues at Roden site Message-ID: <200101191140.DAA08367@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:42:47 -0500 (EST), Michael Kendix wrote: > I can't see 2 types. I see 2 identical sprues - presumably one for each > engie and 2 halves of the cowl on each sprue. Where is the other > version/type of cowl? Very odd. When I look at the page I don't see the sprue. When I look at the source, I see that the HTML is there for the sprue. So, I'm looking at each image not, doing a cut and paste. Cripes. Looks good, though! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:53:07 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Most Important? Message-ID: Sorry I was so het-up by Dave that I never read this before sending off my version of the same thing. I agree with everything you say Eli, except possibly metal airframes. /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Eli Geher [mailto:iceman1@hiwaay.net] > Sent: den 19 januari 2001 05:40 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Most Important? > > > > > DAVID BURKE wrote: > > Oooh Boy, do I disagree with this! > > > Easy, Dave. Take a deep breath and count to 10. You've > designated a laundry list of wartime developments and a few > are wartime inventions but most are updates of prewar work. > > Aileron... Invented well before the war and widely accepted > and used. > > Radial engine... Langley used one as did Bleriot. Only > the Salmson was used during the war. > > Synchronized guns... I'll give you that one. > > Airborne radio... I'm not sure. I think it might have been > demonstrated pre-war but maybe not. > > Aerial bombardment... An operation rather then a development > and not a significant one until postwar development enabled > the > carriage of enough bombs to do serious damage. Not a real > factor until the Spanish Civil War. > > Metal airframes... Agreed. And a big one that was. But > Junkers had to fight like hell to get the army's attention. > > Armored Tank... Yes, although the underlying technology was > an existing farm machine. > > The other things you list all seem to me to be based on > prior art. I don't wish to belabor the point, but the > technological innovations of wartime are simply overstated. > Economics and military necessity force the priority to be on > incremental improvement and production efficiency. Not to > say that invention doesn't occur. The jet engine wasn't a > wartime invention, but the digital computer certainly was. > > > As for the jet engine: it goes back to Archimedes' > > screw! A truly ancient idea! > > Don't you meant the little steam turbine rather than the > screw propellor? > > Eli > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:55:45 -0000 From: "aa8." To: Subject: Re: Giant Cookup Message-ID: <002d01c0820e$e647ebc0$8d133c3e@tinypc> 'E' Ships aren't such a bad idea either This might give me the push to complete my Glencoe Oregon (Very, Very Long term project) Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Giant Cookup > > > Matt Bittner wrote: > > > I doubt it would go soon, since the Albatros just (almost) ended, and > > the Sopwith started... > > And were'nt we discussing armor or ships for the next cook-up after > Sopwiths? > E. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:42:37 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Giant Cookup Message-ID: <000B93A91DDE4D115A750005B80A9E19@cameron.prontomail.com> Andy, >How do we go about organising this 'Giant Cookup'? How about we get the Albatros cook-up totally complete first and then the Sopwith one done next before we start worrying about any third cook-up. In reality the Sopwith one will probably take all year if the ALbatros one is anything to judge by. One cook-up at a time is enough ( for me anyway ). cam AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:16:17 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Price of Toko/Roden, was Thanks Neil and Steven Message-ID: >From: Witold Kozakiewicz >For 150 swedish crowns I can get almost three Snipes. Gotha >should be in the same price as He.111 - about $18. >-- Local taxes may be higher in Sweden possibly due to taxes on imported goods or sales taxes. I understood that Sweden had very high taxes but my information may be out of date (Neil?). As I mentioned, cost of transportation is only one factor in determining price or cost of bringing the kit to market. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:43:26 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Giant Cookup Message-ID: <3A680C3D.DCFC045D@dial.pipex.com> Brent Theobald wrote: >It's a fun idea though. I think Giant should mean multi-engined bombers, by the way. >That way we *might* get a few HP's to balance the slew of Gotha's, >Fredrichshavens, Staakens and SSW's. Or Vimys, DH10s, Felixstowes....... All we need is a V/1500 kit !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:24:51 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Price of Toko/Roden, was Thanks Neil and Steven Message-ID: No I don't think it's taxes, certainly we have fairly high taxes here, but not that bad. I think it's just lack of competition, we are in Sweden, where all the rest of you will be in a few years time. That hobby shop is one of only two in Sweden, I don't count toy shops and railway shops. If you want to go somewhere and actually handle kits, that shop in Stockholm, and one in Malmö are about it. I'm sure someone will tell me I'm wrong, but those two are the only ones I know. /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Kendix [mailto:mkendix@hotmail.com] > Sent: den 19 januari 2001 14:21 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Price of Toko/Roden, was Thanks Neil and Steven > > > >From: Witold Kozakiewicz > >For 150 swedish crowns I can get almost three Snipes. Gotha > >should be in the same price as He.111 - about $18. > >-- > > Local taxes may be higher in Sweden possibly due to taxes on > imported goods > or sales taxes. I understood that Sweden had very high taxes but my > information may be out of date (Neil?). As I mentioned, cost of > transportation is only one factor in determining price or > cost of bringing > the kit to market. > > Michael > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:33:49 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: New images Message-ID: <200101191336.FAA22772@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> I just finished uploading images of David Burke's latest - a Fokker D.VII and his completed DH2. Excellent job! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:43:49 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Price of Toko/Roden, was Thanks Neil and Steven Message-ID: <3A684495.53C79993@helsinki.fi> Too bad. I suppose the price would be something like US$ 1. ;-) Jan > I know of no hobby shops in the Aleutians, however ;- } > Gabe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:46:38 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Price of Toko/Roden, was Thanks Neil and Steven Message-ID: <3A68453E.2464A06C@helsinki.fi> Cripes, my next cruise will be to Poland. ;-) Jan > Prices of Toko/Roden kits in Poland are very low. I bought Strutter for > about $5.50. For 150 swedish crowns I can get almost three Snipes. Gotha > should be in the same price as He.111 - about $18. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:33:25 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Giant Cookup Message-ID: BRent wrote (snip) >It's a fun idea though. I think Giant should mean multi-engined bombers, by >the way. That way we *might* get a few HP's to balance the slew of Gotha's, >Fredrichshavens, Staakens and SSW's. > Multi-engine is a good catchall category. . .that way the truly insane among us (and you know who you are) might consider a Zepp or two, in Balloon scale, of course. ;-) Perhaps rather than treating a giant cookup as we have the Tross and Sopwith ones, we could make it an ongoing thing for those interested. Have a regular short term cook-up and have a Giant page that just trundles along minding its own business. With an open ended time frame people could take a break from their Sopwith or Nieuport or whatever and hit a giant for a while, filing updates to the site as and when they come up. I know that I want to eventually have a complete set of all the multi-engined variants and I know i'll be wizened and grey before they are done. having an ongoing giant site might be the way to go. Take after Tolkein and list the web page "Here be Giants" just my two Cents CDN worth. MVJ (Who is never ever ever doing deadline commission work again. . . dam airbrush packed up on me last night as I was doing a mass painting - six kits on a production line. Every time it looks like I'll pull this off and have everything down by Monday (sdoomsday) something comes up to shaf everything up. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:57:13 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Price of Toko/Roden, was Thanks Neil and Steven Message-ID: <3A6847B9.CFE90E8E@helsinki.fi> > No I don't think it's taxes, certainly we have fairly high taxes > here, but not that bad. And I think the taxation here in Finland is pretty much like in Sweden. I think it's just lack of competition, we are > in Sweden, where all the rest of you will be in a few years time. > That hobby shop is one of only two in Sweden, I don't count toy > shops and railway shops. If you want to go somewhere and actually > handle kits, that shop in Stockholm, and one in Malmö are about it. There are not many shops selling them in Finland, either. I know only one for sure. Jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:40:43 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Gotha sprues at Roden site Message-ID: >Shane said of the Gotha sprues >> > >Probably a misnaming. The cowls are on a sprue separate from the engines, >but IMHO the *cowl* sprue has two styles of cowl on it > Yeah two cowls, yellow AND olive.. Sorry couldn't resist. . .diving back into the clouds. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:28:41 -0800 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Giant Cookup Message-ID: <3A6913F9.4618336A@tac.com.au> Ernest Thomas wrote: > > Matt Bittner wrote: > > > I doubt it would go soon, since the Albatros just (almost) ended, and > > the Sopwith started... > > And were'nt we discussing armor or ships for the next cook-up after > Sopwiths? > E. Hi Ernest, Considering the popularity of the single prop aircraft themes, maybe we could have a ship, armour & bomber (ie: multi engined) cookups running consecutively with the current cookups. Afterall, these other topics will take longer to build as a general rule & can be spread out over a longer, if not indefinite period. Shane & Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:29:07 -0600 From: Lee To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, lemen@x25.net Subject: Re: Gotha sprues at Roden site Message-ID: <3A684F33.4080705@x25.net> --------------010200040608010709020904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am now and have been using netscape since it became a company. At present. Say "two days ago" I started with the new Netscape V-6. No problems what ever. I even get all of the 1/72nd advertising from Omaha. He is about half right. Like his 1/72nd planes. 1/48 becomes visible sooner. Trying to find more WW I planes in the bigger sizes has been difficult at best, but, it is better now than ever. Like the DML Fokker D-VII. Up and down. 1/48 is like a Pontiac. Wider is better. I found a thing while using a friends computer. Sometimes when a message seems to be incomplete try to use the "reply button" and for reasons I have never understood it "sometimes" will finish the message and when you return to the original message it will all be there. Maybe some "puter" wizard can tell me what is going on. Lee M. Rob & Sherry wrote: > Using Netscape, I have nothing past the text. Using Neoplanet I get them. > Rob > > At 10:08 PM 1/18/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >> uh Matt, try scrolling down to the bottom past the >> text. >> >> Todd >> >> --- Matt Bittner wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:28:13 -0500 (EST), Marc Flake >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Since I'm in digest mode it's likely that Matt or >>> >>> Tom has probably >>> >>>> already beaten me with this information, but just >>> >>> in case: >>> >>>> Here are the [pictues of the parts for the Gotha >>> >>> over at the Roden site: >>> >>>> http://www.rodenplant.com/HTML/gothag2.htm >>> >>> No you're not, but am I missing something? I see no >>> parts, just an >>> image of the box top and the artwork used for the >>> box. >>> >>> >>> Matt Bittner >>> >>> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. >> http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ >> --------------010200040608010709020904 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am now and have been using netscape since it became a company.

At present.  Say "two days ago"  I started with the new Netscape V-6.  No problems what ever. 

I even get all of the 1/72nd advertising from Omaha.  He is about half right.  Like his 1/72nd planes.  1/48 becomes visible sooner.  Trying to find more WW I planes in the bigger sizes has been difficult at best, but, it is better now than ever. Like the DML Fokker D-VII.  Up and down.   1/48 is like a Pontiac.  Wider is better.

I found a thing while using a friends computer.  Sometimes when a message seems to be incomplete try to use the "reply button" and for reasons I have never understood it "sometimes" will finish the message and when you return to the original message it will all be there.   Maybe some "puter" wizard can tell me what is going on.

Lee M.

Rob & Sherry wrote:
Using Netscape, I have nothing past the text. Using Neoplanet I get them.
Rob

At 10:08 PM 1/18/2001 -0500, you wrote:
uh Matt, try scrolling down to the bottom past the
text.

Todd

--- Matt Bittner <tbittners@sprintmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:28:13 -0500 (EST), Marc Flake
wrote:

Since I'm in digest mode it's likely that Matt or
Tom has probably
already beaten me with this information, but just
in case:
Here are the [pictues of the parts for the Gotha
over at the Roden site:
http://www.rodenplant.com/HTML/gothag2.htm
! 
No you're not, but am I missing something?  I see no
parts, just an
image of the box top and the artwork used for the
box.


Matt Bittner



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--------------010200040608010709020904-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:22:10 -0600 From: huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Fotocut Booklet Message-ID: The Fotocut booklet is done and ready to send to any who want it. It is a 12 page 5 x 8 booklet in .pdf format and is 636k in size. If you want a copy, please send me a request off list and I will get it on the way. John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:37:23 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: More updates Message-ID: <200101191439.GAA01618@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Just uploaded a "boat-load" of new images to Bill Arnold's area. Well done on all, Bill! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:46:11 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Kit request Message-ID: <200101191448.GAA26717@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> This is off topic, so forgive me. Also forgive if this showed up twice - I don't remember seeing my first posting. I'm looking for wings from the Monogram 1/72nd P-6E for a couple of conversions I want to accomplish. Anybody have any they would be willing to part with? TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:09:40 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: Kit request Message-ID: <000d01c08229$d9757f00$85b58dd0@main> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 7:53 AM Subject: Kit request > This is off topic, so forgive me. Also forgive if this showed up twice > - I don't remember seeing my first posting. I'm looking for wings from > the Monogram 1/72nd P-6E for a couple of conversions I want to > accomplish. Anybody have any they would be willing to part with? TIA! > > > Matt Bittner Dear Matt, I have a Monogram F11C-2 Goshawk kit that may work. I believe the wings are the same as the P-6E. I also have an old double conversion, (not sure who made it) for the Curtiss P-1 & Boeing P12B (simular to the Model 100), which I have a Matchbox P-12 kit for the wings. You are welcome to these if they will work Best regards, Dale ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:02:28 -0600 From: "The Shannons" To: Subject: Re: Gotha sprues at Roden site Message-ID: <00a101c08231$3d41ba60$28aa343f@shark> Man, that is a lot of parts! I wish they had put some kind of scaling device in the photos, though. Some of that looks like really delicate stuff in plastic, judging from the dimensions of the 1:1. It may be enough to get me to do a dinky scale WWI, at that, because I'm not sure where to put a royal scale (1/48 natch) version in my collection. .Mark. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Flake To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:28 PM Subject: Gotha sprues at Roden site > Since I'm in digest mode it's likely that Matt or Tom has probably > already beaten me with this information, but just in case: > > Here are the [pictues of the parts for the Gotha over at the Roden site: > > http://www.rodenplant.com/HTML/gothag2.htm > > Marc(hoping I'm not being redundant) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:05:41 -0600 From: "The Shannons" To: Subject: Re: Site Update Message-ID: <00a701c08231$aca9ee40$28aa343f@shark> It's taken me a few days to get to this -- between my schedule and my klutziness (lost the URL, found it, lost it, sat down and found it and used it right away...) Marvelous work, Richard. You are certainly making a good case for being our king of the multiengines!. .Mark. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Eaton To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:03 PM Subject: Site Update > Well friends I have dusted off my humble web site and updated it with two > recent builds. > > Aeroclub Felixstowe F.2.A (ala Pearson's Profile Products) > HitKit LVG C.V (Pre-Squadron markings) > > Stop by if you get a moment. > > http://home.austin.rr.com/reaton/index.htm > > Regards, > > Richard > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:52:18 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: The scale that dare not speak its name Message-ID: <80.5b8e540.2799cac2@aol.com> Most of you know me as one who works in the manly scale of 1/48, but I have a dark secret. Despite all outward appearences, a lovely wife and three wonderful children, I am in fact, bi-focal. So, can anybody point me at a good brass set for a 1/7* SPAD? Preferably a 7 but will settle for a 13 and adapt cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:16:57 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Gotha on Hannants website - was Gotha sprues at Roden site Message-ID: <200101191716.SAA35440@mail-relay.eunet.no> Hei, The Roden Gotha is now available according to Hannants New Arrivals website. Price is reasonable at 15.95 with VAT and 13.57 for export outside the EU. Knut Erik >Since I'm in digest mode it's likely that Matt or Tom has probably >already beaten me with this information, but just in case: > >Here are the [pictues of the parts for the Gotha over at the Roden site: > >http://www.rodenplant.com/HTML/gothag2.htm > >Marc(hoping I'm not being redundant) > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2990 **********************