WWI Digest 2975 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Hi-Tech Roland D.II -first impressions and a cry for colour-info! by MAnde72343@aol.com 2) Re: Russian Troops in France by MAnde72343@aol.com 3) Re: IPMS - my experiences was RE: New images - judging systems by "DAVID BURKE" 4) Sopwith Swallow by "David Vosburgh" 5) Re: IPMS - my experiences was RE: New images - judging systems by Ernest Thomas 6) Re: Russian Troops in France by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 7) RE: IPMS - my experiences was RE: New images - judging systems by "Gaston Graf" 8) Re: Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines by Todd Hayes 9) RE: Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 10) Re: Jenny by "Michael S. Alvarado" 11) Re: Camel help by "Michael S. Alvarado" 12) Re: More Eduard by Steve Cox 13) Re: AGO C.II by Todd Hayes 14) Military Heritage Mag. by Todd Hayes 15) I finished a model! by "Steven Schofield" 16) RE: More Eduard by Shane Weier 17) RE: New images - judging systems by Shane Weier 18) RE: More Eduard by Shane Weier 19) Re: I finished a model! by "DAVID BURKE" 20) Re: More Eduard by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 21) RE: More Eduard by Shane Weier 22) Re: AGO C.II by "David Calhoun" 23) RE: More Eduard by Shane Weier 24) Re: More Eduard by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 25) Re: I finished a model! by Ernest Thomas 26) Re: IPMS - my experiences was RE: New images - judging systems by "David Calhoun" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:12:22 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hi-Tech Roland D.II -first impressions and a cry for colour-info! Message-ID: <8b.1095795.27934606@aol.com> --part1_8b.1095795.27934606_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Both are possible as the Roland spanned early '17, and the switch from brown to purple came sometime in the first half of '17, so Dicta Ira! Merrill --part1_8b.1095795.27934606_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Both are possible as the Roland spanned early '17, and the switch from brown
to purple came sometime in the first half of '17, so Dicta Ira!
Merrill

--part1_8b.1095795.27934606_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:20:09 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Russian Troops in France Message-ID: --part1_aa.fb5d6a2.279347d9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, most of the reports of Russian troops in the West were RUMORS, that spread and wouldn't die. If there was a unit, how and why it was sent west would be an interesting story in itself. Merrill --part1_aa.fb5d6a2.279347d9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, most of the reports of Russian troops in the West were RUMORS, that
spread and wouldn't die. If there was a unit, how and why it was sent west
would be an interesting story in itself.
Merrill

--part1_aa.fb5d6a2.279347d9_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:23:15 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: IPMS - my experiences was RE: New images - judging systems Message-ID: <001901c07e57$16380b00$d7e779a5@com> > > You haven't got a chance unless it's Navy (tee hee!) > > No prob, I'll just do my Pup and an RNAS bird! > :-p > E. > That's my boy - always quick with the comeback! DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:39:46 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Sopwith Swallow Message-ID: <003f01c07e59$734eb120$46ed19ce@Pvosburg> Hi All Inspired by the fact that I *finally* got around to taking a good look through the Albatros Cook-Up pages (great stuff everybody! I especially loved Diego's artwork), I decided to give Eric's CSM Swallow kit a try for the next breakout of group insanity. By cannibalizing cockpit parts from my Dolphin project I figure there might actually be a chance I could get it done in six months instead of six years. Questions: 1. I have only two photos of the original machine, those in the Vintage Warbirds "Sopwith Fighters". Any help supplementing these would be greatly appreciated. 2. Given that the fuselage was basically that of Camel B9276, does anyone know whether there were any significant differences in the layout of the cockpit? 3. There's no oil tank filler hole on the kit decking, was this moved from aft of the seat? I'm in digest mode, so it might take me a bit to get back to anybody who responds, but as always, TIA DV ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:42:35 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: IPMS - my experiences was RE: New images - judging systems Message-ID: <3A61F319.109E3E20@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > > > You haven't got a chance unless it's Navy (tee hee!) Do I have time to knock out a "Blue Angels" Hanriot for Pensacola? E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:01:08 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Russian Troops in France Message-ID: <003d01c07e5c$5f5941f0$6a37183f@cyrixp166> Here is what I found today. Maybe I'll try to get the book: WW1 massacre of Russian troops on the Western Front at Courtine, France. During the First World War an Expeditionary Corps [two brigades], consisting of about 20,000 men was sent from Russia via Vladivostok to Marseilles to fight with the Allied troops on the Western Front against Germany. The Russians fought at Amiens along with the British troops. They were also, I believe, involved with the French Army in heavy fighting at Chemin des Dames, where the French lost 250,000 men and faced a mutiny amongst their troops. The Russian Brigades had taken heavy casualties also, and after the Russian revolution there was considerable disaffection amongst the troops on the grounds that they "were fighting for the French", with whom they apparently saw no common cause. This apparently lead to the Allied command segregating the Russians at a camp at Courtine: Camp Militaire, north west of Courtine by about two kilometres. ["west of Clermont, east of Limoges, north of Ussel"] There was subsequently some sort of "rebellion", including a refusal to fight, within the Russian ranks. The French response was to surround the camp and, using artillery, "order was restored". I gather this exercise resulted in some 400 dead Russians. The surviving troops were sent back to Bolshevik Russia. One of them was a sergeant, trained as a machine gunner, R Ya Malinovsky, who was prominent in the Soviet campaigns of the Second World War, including a period as commander of the Southern Front ["Stalingrad Front"]. Later he was appointed a Marshal of the Red Army and was Minister of Defence in Khrushchev's time. I understand a lot was written about this episode in Soviet Russia but I have not found many references to it in English. There has been one very good book published which gives a very full account of this sad episode. "With snow on their boots", The tragic odyssey of the Russian Expeditionary Force in France during World War 1, Jamie H Cockfield, St Martin's Griffin, 175 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY, 10010, 1997, ISBN 0 312 22082 0 [paper] ISBN 0 312 17356 3 [cloth] ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 1:24 PM Subject: Re: Russian Troops in France > > --part1_aa.fb5d6a2.279347d9_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > John, most of the reports of Russian troops in the West were RUMORS, that > spread and wouldn't die. If there was a unit, how and why it was sent west > would be an interesting story in itself. > Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 20:17:40 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: IPMS - my experiences was RE: New images - judging systems Message-ID: NoNoNo... there is definetly a big difference between the nutty and the vile humans on this plant. As far as I know, DeeBee is not one of the bad guys ;o). Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > DAVID BURKE > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 3:32 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: IPMS - my experiences was RE: New images - judging systems > > > > > The humans are an ugly breed which is mostly influenced by envy and > > > selfishness in this or the other way. > > > > I cannot but agree with this statement after reading your post. > However, I > > suspect I'm thinking of a different person than you. > > > > Shane > > > > > Who, me? > > DB > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 11:18:51 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines Message-ID: <20010114191851.58539.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Hans, I'd say the Bleriot, at least, is very OT. As much as a Tabloid or Moranes G/H. Todd --- Hans Trauner wrote: > >Slightly pre-OT. Now watching this magnificent > movie. > > Makes me want a 1:48 Bleriot!! > > > >TH > > It was available form Inpact/Pyro/Life-like. If I > remember right, this > series was one of the first 'merchandise' efforts, > as Inpact labelled them > 'Those magnificant Flying Machines'. The series > included (all 1/48scale) > the Bleriot ( could be OT!), a Martin Handasyde, a > Deperdussin, a > Bristol-Boxkite ( a little bit OT), and Avro Biplane > and Triplane. The kit > are high quality, I wish some OT kits would be done > in this quality > nowadays. First release was in 1968/69. > > Try ebay. Or take a look at > http://www.kingkit.co.uk/cat_21.htm, there is a > LifeLike version of the Triplane and > http://www.kingkit.co.uk/cat_21.htm shows > additionally a Deperdussin. > > Hans > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:50:52 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: Subject: RE: Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines Message-ID: Lindberg has the molds for the Pyro/Life-Like 1/48 Gloster Gladiator, Hawker Fury, Bristol Bulldog, and the Fairey Flycatcher, which pop up re-issued from time to time. I have also seen some of the Pyro car kits re-issued by Lindberg. Perhaps they have the below mentioned series. Think a letter writing campaign would get them to release these kits again, if they do have the molds? Would probably be cheaper prices than those on Ebay. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Hans Trauner It was available form Inpact/Pyro/Life-like......The series included (all 1/48scale) the Bleriot, a Martin Handasyde, a Deperdussin, a Bristol-Boxkite, and Avro Biplane and Triplane......First release was in 1968/69. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:44:16 -0500 From: "Michael S. Alvarado" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jenny Message-ID: <3A62018F.85819ACC@bellatlantic.net> Ben, If it can't be cast, why not suppy it as precut, notched, bent wire parts? Might raise the cost of the model slightly but would provide for a representative welded steel tube rudder frame. How was the rudder on the Albatros cast? I have it an aside from some slight clean-up and straightening it looks real good. 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Alvie Dale Sebring wrote: > Anyone have ideas on how to fix-up, correct etc. the Revell 1/72 camel kit? > TIA > > Best to all, > Dale ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 20:29:20 +0000 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: More Eduard Message-ID: Joystick do a vacform, don't know about availability Regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 00:03:07 -0800 > From: "David Calhoun" > To: > Subject: Re: More Eduard > Message-ID: <002801c07e00$6fb979e0$2e0a3ccc@oemcomputer> > > Hi Shane, > How about an AGO C.II - Looks like a P-38 with 2 wings. A most unusual > aircraft, and will probably never be kitted. It may be time for you to > scratchbuild one of these, then someone is bound to release one in the near > future! > Dave Calhoun > ----- Original Message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:34:31 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: AGO C.II Message-ID: <20010114203431.61380.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> Gee Matt, I don't think so! Todd --- Matt Bittner wrote: > On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 00:38:54 -0500 (EST), Todd Hayes > wrote: > > > But unfortunately that's in 1:72!! > > Hey Todd! You must have mistyped because I see the > letters "u" and "n" > in front of fortunately. > > Unfortunately spell checkers don't catch this kind > of thing. > > :-) > > > Matt Bittner > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:42:23 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Military Heritage Mag. Message-ID: <20010114204223.80223.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Anyone read this magazine? There's an OT article in the latest issue (which I don't have but am considering purchasing). The article is "German Zepplins over London" The misspelling is theirs. TH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:17:48 -0000 From: "Steven Schofield" To: Subject: I finished a model! Message-ID: <002301c07e6f$72b35980$03a993c3@oemcomputer> This time, it hasn't all ended in tears. I've finished the LVG C.VI kit and it's posted on my pages. Euphoricilly yours, Scho http://www.ww1.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:14:13 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: More Eduard Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748A1E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Todd, > > >How much for a Vickers "Gunbus" Shane? > > > > You got high heels and a neoprene bikini ? > > > >What size do you wear? I'll send them right away. ROTFL. I'm well rounded too. On me a neoprene bikini would look like two rubber bands on an egg. Okay, so you can't do depravity like Lorna, it'll have to be graft ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:19:47 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: New images - judging systems Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748A1F@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Peter says: > On similar lines, I get grumpy whenever I read an OT review > which starts > "I've never built a WWI model before" Now that gets my goat every time > LOL. My least favourite is "I know nothing about this aircraft" followed later in the review by pontification on the accuracy, look and feel of the model. Got so annoyed once that I indulged in an exchange of letters with the editor of the magazine in question, an indulgence which has apparently made me persona non grata. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:21:36 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: More Eduard Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748A20@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Peter admits: > << Has anyone noticed the screaming from down under. Or > recalls the "How Many" > thread in which my scratchbuilt W.4 is nearest to > completion of all of my > projects? >> > > And you'll never guess who has a Bristol Scout C ready for > assembly. It could > have been worse, I did consider doing it as a resin kit master Hehe. Misery loves campany ;-) Shane (I'll probably still finish the W.4 and use it to beat to death the first person who looks at it and says "That new eduard floatplane isn't much good is it" ) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:20:24 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: I finished a model! Message-ID: <003901c07e6f$d6208920$d7e779a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Schofield" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 3:10 PM Subject: I finished a model! > This time, it hasn't all ended in tears. I've finished the LVG C.VI kit and > it's posted on my pages. > > Euphoricilly yours, > Scho > http://www.ww1.org.uk Bravo Steve! I have damned-near forgotten what the sensation feels like! DB > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 08:26:23 -0800 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: More Eduard Message-ID: <3A6324AF.C8DBCDBD@tac.com.au> Shane Weier wrote: > > Okay, so you can't do depravity like Lorna, it'll have to be graft ;-) You like stating the obvious don't you ;-) Shane the Younger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:26:04 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: More Eduard Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748A21@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> SP says: > Anyone want to bribe me to start a scratchbuild of your > > favourite unkitted aircraft? > > > > No. But I'll pay you to finish one, that way I'll be assured > of getting the > injection molded kit ;-) Ah dammit. Where DID I put that tongue poking emoticon. Ah rats.... PPFFFFFTTTTTT...... Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:33:58 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: AGO C.II Message-ID: <001401c07e8a$db18dc00$e12f3ccc@oemcomputer> I meant in 1/48 scale of course! Dave C ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 9:20 PM Subject: AGO C.II > In a message dated 1/14/2001 12:01:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, > dcalhoun01@snet.net writes: > > << How about an AGO C.II - Looks like a P-38 with 2 wings. A most unusual > aircraft, and will probably never be kitted. It may be time for you to > scratchbuild one of these, then someone is bound to release one in the near > future! > Dave Calhoun >> > To late Dave, check the Vamp site I believe it's already done! > Jon > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:38:18 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: More Eduard Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748A22@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Todd, > > Okay, so you can't do depravity like Lorna, it'll have to > >be graft ;-) > > You like stating the obvious don't you ;-) > > Shane the Younger > True. Nobody does depravity like Mistress Lorna ;-) Shane the Elder nb Konig nb Snipe nctatwiafop W.4 ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 08:45:38 -0800 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: More Eduard Message-ID: <3A632932.4BB82485@tac.com.au> Shane Weier wrote: > > Todd, Wrong person matey ;-þ > > > Okay, so you can't do depravity like Lorna, it'll have to > > >be graft ;-) > > > > You like stating the obvious don't you ;-) > > > > Shane the Younger > > > > True. Nobody does depravity like Mistress Lorna ;-) And don't I know it ;-þ StY ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:48:30 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: I finished a model! Message-ID: <3A621EAD.6679DE83@bellsouth.net> Steven Schofield wrote: > This time, it hasn't all ended in tears. I've finished the LVG C.VI kit and > it's posted on my pages. And I just now mounted the Parabellum and windscreen on the Eduard Roland and it's all done! (finally) Scratch one from my total from '00 and give me my first notch for '01. E. now to go have a looksee at Steve's LVG..... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:52:28 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: IPMS - my experiences was RE: New images - judging systems Message-ID: <00a501c07e8d$708189c0$e12f3ccc@oemcomputer> ot - for the Spring Wings & Wheels contest, there is a new category being added for automotive- prepainted autos. This is due to the fact that both AMT & Revell/Monogram have come out with the pre painted bodies, and rather than disqualify some new builder who has assembled & painted the entire interior, this was meant as a way to get more people involved in the contest. Without giving an advantage for a prepainted body. Sounds good to me, and can get more novices to build for the contest. Dave Calhoun ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID BURKE" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 8:48 AM Subject: Re: IPMS - my experiences was RE: New images - judging systems > > > > DAVID BURKE wrote: > > > > > If it was another family member who built 'em, then I might be inclined > to > > > be lenient > > > > I guess that's the rationale that allowed that pod racer to be entered in > > Orlando. > > I suppose I could build a F-117 Stealth, let Meg spray it black and that > could > > be her entry for the juniors catagory, right? > > Good point, but 'Daddy's Hand' is usually found in junior categories - but I > see your point. > > > > > > In my opinion, when it comes to figures (and let's face > > > it: many nowadays are pretty much needing minor cleanup and no assembly > or > > > sculpting) it is the PAINTER who brings the figure to life. > > > > If they're so easy, why did she need someone else to build it? But in this > > instance, it wasn't a Verlinden figure, it was the Airfix Anne Bolyn, > which even > > had a bit of re-sculpting on the face, done by this other modeler. > > In that case, I would agree with you. > > > What if I show up in Mobile with a figure that I did all the work on > except the > > face, which I had done by Bob Caruso, or I could get Pat Donohue to build > "just > > the cockpit" on my OT entry, and maybe a car that was done entirely by me, > > except for the paint job on the body, which was done by Howard Heno? Would > that > > be acceptable? > > For the laughter value, for the interest in seeing what Donahue could do on > an OT subject (he really is quite good!) and to see you do a car (I would > imagine it would be the 'Red Baron re-release or one of them 'Hoppin' Low > Riders' kits! ;-) > > > > > O.K., I'm puzzled. I didn't see that N.O. had any pre-painted models. > > > > Not this year. It said on the flyer, plain as day, that they would be > > disqualified. So none showed up. But they have in years past. > > Yeah. I gotta call one of our guys and tell him to put that in our flyer > too - even juniors shouldn't get away with that except that some have > re-painted those kits. I don't mind that. > > > > Cool yer jets Buckbo, it was just a friendly jab.(but it was real funny > > listening to your bitch) > > Pardon my sensitivity - my Preparation H must be losing its potency. > > once again I am Head Judge at the Mobile, AL/ > > > Battleship U.S.S. Alabama Contest on March 10. > > > > And I talked it over with Colleen and we'll most likely be there. You > still > > charging the same rates for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place awards?(hee hee > hee....) > > You haven't got a chance unless it's Navy (tee hee!) > > DB > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2975 **********************