WWI Digest 2962 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Kits for kids was Great website by "Steven M.Perry" 2) Re: WW1 list OT Places of interest guide guide by Ernest Thomas 3) Re: ot night space picture of the globe by Ernest Thomas 4) RE: ot night space picture of the globe by Shane Weier 5) Sopwith Camel question by "David Calhoun" 6) RE: Kits for kids was Great website by Shane Weier 7) Re: Smer DH2 by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 8) FMP Sikorskii S.16 Book by Todd Hayes 9) Re: WW1 list OT Places of interest guide guide by Todd Hayes 10) Re: Staaken Article from the 80's by Todd Hayes 11) Re: ot night space picture of the globe by "DAVID BURKE" 12) Re: Sopwith Camel question by "DAVID BURKE" 13) Re: the virus of modeling was RE: How Many? by "Tom Solinski" 14) RE: ot night space picture of the globe by Shane Weier 15) Re: Belgian Camouflage by Marc Flake 16) Sopwith Camel two-seaters by Marc Flake 17) Re: Belgian Camouflage by Ernest Thomas 18) Re: Kits for kids was Great website by Ernest Thomas 19) Re: Belgian Camouflage by "Bob Pearson" 20) RE: Kits for kids was Great website by Shane Weier 21) Re: Kits for kids was Great website by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 22) RE: Kits for kids was Great website by Rob & Sherry 23) Help with 1/48th decals by Craig Gavin 24) James Europe and the "Hellfighters" - OT history by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 25) Re: Hannants Mail Order by Witold Kozakiewicz 26) Kits for kids, further thoughts... by Ernest Thomas 27) RE: Kits for kids, further thoughts... by "Ray Boorman" 28) Re: Kits for kids, further thoughts... by TomTheAeronut@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 21:26:08 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Kits for kids was Great website Message-ID: <00ff01c07aac$b26faa40$66f0aec7@default> > CRIKEY! I take a night off from reading the list mail and y'all go and pull off > some great humanitarian act behind my back. And by the time I see it, it's all > done. > Can I send a pair of clippers and a pack of emory boards? Can I put my name on > the list of people to call for help? > Also, I think we should ask them take pictures of the finished products for > posting on the list site. Yup, yup & covered ;-) sp > E. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 20:42:51 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WW1 list OT Places of interest guide guide Message-ID: <3A5BCC2A.E02C9267@bellsouth.net> David Fleming wrote: > Following on from the recent travelogues from Down Under, I was > wondering what other listees though about compiling a 'Places of > Interest' Gazeteer for the various parts of the world we come from ? I'd > be prepared to put it together if Matt or Alan are amenable? There's an FT-17 and a Spandau gun around the corner from my house in NO. E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 20:45:12 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ot night space picture of the globe Message-ID: <3A5BCCB7.6DA7ED68@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > WOW! I can see my house! Run up on the roof and moon the satalite as it passes oveer. E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:10:08 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: ot night space picture of the globe Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71017489FA@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> E says (typically) > > WOW! I can see my house! > > Run up on the roof and moon the satalite as it passes oveer. > I'm sure he'd show up. That's about the only explanation I can see for half the lights on the Australian continent other than someone adding a few for artisitic effect One largish band of lights appears in an area where three of our mines are sited - and no towns bigger than ~300 people) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:17:50 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Sopwith Camel question Message-ID: <002f01c07acd$106df5a0$213b3ccc@oemcomputer> Hi all, Just looking over references & my Blue Max Camel before undertaking my cookup project. (Culley's 2F1 N6812) According to Datafile #6 this was a 150hp Bentley powered aircraft. Anyone ever convert the Clerget camel to a Bentley powered Camel? The nose looks slightly wider, and tapers back like the base of a lightbulb. The upper fuselage decking overlaps the top of the cowl in a circular shape when viewed from above. This looks like the major problem with this conversion. Anyone ever done this? Would it be easier to use a Monogram plastic cowl & sand it to the correct shape? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave Calhoun ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:16:07 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Kits for kids was Great website Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71017489FB@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> SP Others have asked: > Can I put my name on the list of people to call for help? Mmm. Me too, via email of course. I know I'm on the other side of the planet, but that may make it still more fun for the kids. It occurs to me to ask whether we have any listees within a reasonable days march who would be willing to and could make a personal presentation on the subject of early aviation /WW1 aviation and modelling? I've done something like it at my own childrens school, and found it to be great fun - but didn't have the added bonus of kits to hand out for them to build (I spoke to a whole 4th grade year, about 80 children, so free kits would have been a tad expensive!) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:15:37 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Smer DH2 Message-ID: <004d01c07ab3$9be22e40$0c3c183f@cyrixp166> This fellow is also an alum of IPMS Granite State (like me). He is a really good modeler (unlike me), has placed in the Nats and a heck of a nice guy. I have his Bristol Pegasus. Very nice. John Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: geoff-smith To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:41 PM Subject: Smer DH2 > For all you guys with the DH2 to build, take a look at this site > > http://www.finalconnections.homestead.com/DH2photos.html > > Geoff > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:51:18 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: FMP Sikorskii S.16 Book Message-ID: <20010110035118.77328.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> Juan at Sopwith Hobbies had a copy. $15.50 including shipping- not bad at all! TH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:58:40 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WW1 list OT Places of interest guide guide Message-ID: <20010110035840.80717.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> Dave, There was/is a Pfalz D.XII at the Experimental Aircraft Association Museum just outside Milwaukee, Wis. Last time I saw it was about 21 years ago! Also a 3/4 scale Fokker Dr.I. Todd --- David Fleming wrote: > Following on from the recent travelogues from Down > Under, I was > wondering what other listees though about compiling > a 'Places of > Interest' Gazeteer for the various parts of the > world we come from ? I'd > be prepared to put it together if Matt or Alan are > amenable? > > What sayeth you all ? > > Dave > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 20:01:53 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Staaken Article from the 80's Message-ID: <20010110040153.76151.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Andy, Sanger did rerelease the 1:24 SE5a, Nieuport 17, and Albatros D.V. The SE includes decals. The old AvUSK advertised it. I haven't checked the new AvUSK-Neb. Todd --- "aa8." wrote: > Regarding the Staaken article and the kit itself. > I wonder how much interest is out there about this > kit? > I know Contrail no longer exist but the masters of > Gordon Sutcliffe's kits > seem to have passed to an operation called Sanger. > Several of the old Contrail kits have appeared under > this label. Including > the Blackburn Perth and Iris and I think the HP42 > airliner. Sadly the > Staaken hasn't. > Does anyone know anything about the Staaken kit or > Sanger or if the masters > still exist? > If they did maybe there is enough interest amongst > us on this list and try > and persuade Sanger to re-release it. I know the kit > would probably be > pretty ghastly by modern standards and that Ray > Rimell is a very good > modeller and it took even his skills to the limit > but I would buy one if it > appeared. > Andy Jones > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian Nicklas > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 2:50 PM > Subject: Re: Staaken Article from the 80's > > > > > > Brent, > > > > I have copied the two articles. (In the spirit of > those who have helped > me > > in the past and those in the future...) > > Pass a surface mail address and I can get it to > you. > > Wasn't this surpassed by a three part series in > Windsock?? > > > > Brian Nicklas > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:01:26 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: ot night space picture of the globe Message-ID: <001a01c07aba$3cbb7dc0$3294aec7@com> > E says (typically) > > > > WOW! I can see my house! > > > > Run up on the roof and moon the satalite as it passes oveer. > > > > I'm sure he'd show up. > Shane > You inferring I have a big bum Mate? DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:02:54 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Sopwith Camel question Message-ID: <001b01c07aba$3da4f360$3294aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Calhoun" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 9:16 PM Subject: Sopwith Camel question > Hi all, > Just looking over references & my Blue Max Camel before undertaking my > cookup project. (Culley's 2F1 N6812) According to Datafile #6 this was a > 150hp Bentley powered aircraft. Anyone ever convert the Clerget camel to a > Bentley powered Camel? The nose looks slightly wider, and tapers back like > the base of a lightbulb. The upper fuselage decking overlaps the top of the > cowl in a circular shape when viewed from above. This looks like the major > problem with this conversion. Anyone ever done this? Would it be easier to > use a Monogram plastic cowl & sand it to the correct shape? Any help or > suggestions would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Dave Calhoun Check the Datafile on the 2F1. I have modified my big Camel to a Bentley bird. In 1/48 it won't be too hard to do with Miliput. DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:07:17 -0600 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: the virus of modeling was RE: How Many? Message-ID: <005b01c07aba$d2b42160$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> > I am moving from Birmingham to Auburn, AL. DB you're definitly on my prayer list. When you move from a city that has AL as the state its in you're supposed to move to a city that doesn't have AL in its title. Even TX would be better. Actually the strech of highway between B'ham an Anniston is some of the prettiest land I've ever seen. Best of luck S.P.A.D. there back OT Tom S OKC If you aren't making waves, you aren't making headway! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:10:29 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: ot night space picture of the globe Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71017489FF@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> DB > > > > I'm sure he'd show up. > > > You inferring I have a big bum Mate? > Nah, that the sun shines out of it ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:13:05 -0600 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Belgian Camouflage Message-ID: <3A5BE151.578D@airmail.net> Okay, so no one felt confident enough to respond to my iniital query about Belgian Camouflage on Sopwith Camels (I even included the secret handshake {&%&}). Next question -- would someone please flip through their copy of "Sopwith Camel: King of Combat" and let me know if there are any good photos of Belgian Camels? I have "The Camel File" and the relevant pictures don't show enough for my purposes. Meanwhile, I'll trot on down to the local library and see if they have any copies of the Harleyford books on hand. Marc (didn't we have a Belgian listmember or two at one point?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:15:31 -0600 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Sopwith Camel two-seaters Message-ID: <3A5BE1E3.5F81@airmail.net> Wouldn't this be a great time for Barry to reissue his Camel conversions? I seem to remember a replacement cowl for the Revell kit and a two-seater version of the Sopwith Camel. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:46:33 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Belgian Camouflage Message-ID: <3A5BE928.36D7400B@bellsouth.net> Marc Flake wrote: > Marc (didn't we have a Belgian listmember or two at one point?) Yes, but he died. Maybe you could try contacting him on a ouja board. E. Who's sorry he has no info to offer on Belgian Camels. But I did like the secret handshake bit. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 23:05:13 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Kits for kids was Great website Message-ID: <3A5BED88.A3B6E6B0@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > (I spoke to a whole 4th grade year, about 80 children, so free kits would > have been a tad expensive!) I once gave a presentation to a 4th grade class on the middle ages. I brought in a bunch of broad swords, axes, and chain mail for them to handle. I also taught them how to make their own chain mail. Alas, it was all for naught. So far not one kid has been knighted. E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 21:31:15 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Belgian Camouflage Message-ID: <200101100647.WAA07888@mail.rapidnet.net> Your mistake was making the secret handshake public .. for that your were spurned. . There are only photos of two Belgian Camels. Jan Oleslieger's SK7 with green/white cowl (a'la Jasta 6 pattern) and tailplane and the the thistle emblem of 9° Escadrille. The other is after 9° transferred their Camels to 11° .. this is onewith a light cowl and a white paper thingie on the side. Both are shot from 3/4 rear on the port side. SK7 is profiled on my CD. Bob ---------- >From: Marc Flake > Okay, so no one felt confident enough to respond to my iniital query > about Belgian Camouflage on Sopwith Camels (I even included the secret > handshake {&%&}). > > Next question -- would someone please flip through their copy of > "Sopwith Camel: King of Combat" and let me know if there are any good > photos of Belgian Camels? I have "The Camel File" and the relevant > pictures don't show enough for my purposes. > > Meanwhile, I'll trot on down to the local library and see if they have > any copies of the Harleyford books on hand. > > Marc (didn't we have a Belgian listmember or two at one point?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:43:45 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Kits for kids was Great website Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748A00@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> E mentions: > I once gave a presentation to a 4th grade class on the middle > ages. I brought > in a bunch of broad swords, axes, and chain mail for them to > handle. I also > taught them how to make their own chain mail. > Alas, it was all for naught. So far not one kid has been knighted. ROTFL Until 6 years ago our main local model contest was held in conjunction with a more broadly based hobby show. At the last contest in that format we were sited adjacent to a group from a Meieval Re-enaction Society conducting some choreographed fights until someone let go of a wildly swinging bastard sword which (luckily) went in the opposite direction from where I and a group of about to be judges were standing (thereby failing to damage the models !). Unluckily it mowed down an elderly gent and his wife. I don't know if the perpetrator got knighted, but the victims later joined the society ! IIRC another list member was there that day and won Model of Show with a 1:28 scratchbuilt Fokker D.VIII Back OT - so there ! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:06:10 -0800 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Kits for kids was Great website Message-ID: <3A5CCEC2.4E75B778@tac.com.au> Ernest Thomas wrote: > Also, I think we should ask them take pictures of the finished products for > posting on the list site. Now that's a bloody excellent idea ;-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:54:54 -0500 From: Rob & Sherry To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Kits for kids was Great website Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010110005454.008199a0@pop-server.tampabay.rr.com> HAHAHA!!!! Ya'll are toooooooo much! Rob- who just destroyed his lame attempt at the Roden DR.1 in a freak wing failure accident ;-) At 12:48 AM 1/10/2001 -0500, you wrote: >E mentions: > > >> I once gave a presentation to a 4th grade class on the middle >> ages. I brought >> in a bunch of broad swords, axes, and chain mail for them to >> handle. I also >> taught them how to make their own chain mail. >> Alas, it was all for naught. So far not one kid has been knighted. > >ROTFL > >Until 6 years ago our main local model contest was held in conjunction with >a more broadly based hobby show. At the last contest in that format we were >sited adjacent to a group from a Meieval Re-enaction Society conducting some >choreographed fights until someone let go of a wildly swinging bastard sword >which (luckily) went in the opposite direction from where I and a group of >about to be judges were standing (thereby failing to damage the models !). > >Unluckily it mowed down an elderly gent and his wife. I don't know if the >perpetrator got knighted, but the victims later joined the society ! > >IIRC another list member was there that day and won Model of Show with a >1:28 scratchbuilt Fokker D.VIII Back OT - so there ! > >Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >********************************************************************** >The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is >intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or >copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to >forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the >MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > >e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au >phone: Australia 1800500646 >********************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:23:46 -0600 From: Craig Gavin To: WWI Modelers List Subject: Help with 1/48th decals Message-ID: Listland - and especially those who specialize in 1/48th scale: Does anybody have a set of squadron insignia for the USAAS 96th Areo Squadron in 1/48th scale? This is roughly a black diamond with a red devil dropping a white bomb. I'm building a Pegasus Breguet 14 in 1/72nd and would like to use this scheme, but the two examples I have in 1/72nd scale (MicroScale and Aero Master from the Glenco Martin Baker kit) are both undersized according to my plans and the photos in Windsock. Would be glad to either buy them or trade for something. TIA - Craig Gavin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 02:37:45 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: James Europe and the "Hellfighters" - OT history Message-ID: Got a bit of very interesting OT history while watching the second night of "Jazz": the story of the 15th New York Infantry and their bandleader, James Europe. One of those stories you don't always run across in the mainstream history books, given the history of the US of A. The 15th New York, all black, the most-decorated American combat unit of the war, chosen because of their record by the French high command to lead the Allied advance to the Rhine. (Think the 442nd Regimental Combat Team - for ground combat - and 332nd Fighter Group of WW1). When they were organized, they wanted a band, and got James Europe, a popular ragtime bandleader, to organize one for them. When the band came off the ship in Le Havre, playing a "jazzed-up" ragtime version of "La Marseillaise," it took the French a few minutes to recognize the song - before they went nuts for it. The Army realized how good the 15th's band was, and sent them around France as representatives of America. That's basically what introduced France - as well as the other Allies, when the band played at their camps - to what would become known as "jazz." Lt. Europe was also the first African-American officer to see combat, leading a patrol into no man's land when the 15th first went into the line, because he didn't want people to think the band was made up of slackers. /after surviving the war, Europe was stabbed by one of his band members, who felt he was "too authoritative", the night before he was to place a wreath on the memorial to the 54th Massachusetts ("Glory") in Boston, in 1919, and bled to death; the New York Times eulogized that "no one knows what might have happened to American music had this awful event not happened." Also in 1919, when the "American Legion" mobs were busting "reds" (aka unions) and America's "Brownshirts" - the KKK - were running rampant, there were 90 Blacks lynched, including 10 still in their uniforms, recently returned from service in France. (That's the kind of history that'll make you real proud to be an American.) In case any of you aren't watching the series, it repeats on your local PBS station on Sunday afternoons. For any who don't know why jazz is "Miles beyond" Rock 'n' Roll (the only RnR musicians I've ever met who didn't know that were the "3-chord wonders" of heavy metal), it's "instructive." Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 08:46:27 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hannants Mail Order Message-ID: <3A5C1353.41385916@bg.am.lodz.pl> Hi, I have ordered from Hannants several times. Only once I got BlackBox cockpit for F/A-18 instead MS.225 but when I sent it back I received my model with no problem. Yes I wait long for the package but I order surface mail - it takes about 3-4 weeks from UK to Poland but airmail (MS.225) arrives in four days. Last order I made in November when they declare X-mas sale. I got four BM models for 12GBP (almost half price) and some more ot. It has arrived in 3 weeks. I was very happy when I got Sopwith Dolphin before Christmas. Sad to hear that you had problems with them, but this is still one of the best source for models unavaiable in Poland for me and they have low shipping rates. Regards. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:49:57 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: The List Subject: Kits for kids, further thoughts... Message-ID: <3A5C1424.1B3EF475@bellsouth.net> Hey Buds(and Bud-ettes), I was thinking.(a dangerous pastime, I know); In these days of cyber predators, it may be a good idea to send the teacher a copy of the list charter that she could pass on to any concerned parents, and an explanation that our gift of models is a purely selfish act committed with the sole intent of sticking irremovable hooks, harpoons if you will, into as many young minds as we can to help insure a customer base for Eduard, Eric, Chris Gannon, Bob Norgren, Barry, etc.. for many years to come.(we could soften-up that last bit about customer bases and harpoons) We(or I) could even write up a sales pitch for the hobby in general, touting all the benefits it has. I may even be able to get an assist from my swmbo's boss and throw in some medical bits about all the brain centers and neuro activity modeling stimulates. Maybe we should really try and get the parents in favor of it, since it's their money that will support any further interest in the hobby. Opinions? E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 23:58:53 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: Kits for kids, further thoughts... Message-ID: Hey E, sheesh you have been thinking way too much, as usual you are right though. As a parent I would be a bit concerned about what could be mis-construed. So I guess I agree, durn and with a heretic too. Of course compared to the price of pc or nintendo games our hobby is peanuts;) Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Ernest Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 11:52 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Kits for kids, further thoughts... > > > Hey Buds(and Bud-ettes), > I was thinking.(a dangerous pastime, I know); > In these days of cyber predators, it may be a good idea to send the > teacher a copy of the list charter that she could pass on to any > concerned parents, and an explanation that our gift of models is a > purely selfish act committed with the sole intent of sticking > irremovable hooks, harpoons if you will, into as many young minds as we > can to help insure a customer base for Eduard, Eric, Chris Gannon, Bob > Norgren, Barry, etc.. for many years to come.(we could soften-up that > last bit about customer bases and harpoons) We(or I) could even write > up a sales pitch for the hobby in general, touting all the benefits it > has. I may even be able to get an assist from my swmbo's boss and throw > in some medical bits about all the brain centers and neuro activity > modeling stimulates. Maybe we should really try and get the parents in > favor of it, since it's their money that will support any further > interest in the hobby. > Opinions? > E. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 03:10:34 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Kits for kids, further thoughts... Message-ID: In a message dated 1/10/01 2:49:19 AM EST, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << I may even be able to get an assist from my swmbo's boss and throw in some medical bits about all the brain centers and neuro activity modeling stimulates. >> You might also bring up that the afflicted will become interested in history (how did that airplane get used? why did that war happen? why did the war before that war happen?), and that the seriously afflicted will want to become pilots, and then will find a reason to learn math, physics, meteorology, and even english (since they'll have to learn how to write in their logbooks). Airplanes and a love of them is more educational that ten great teachers (might not want to say that to the teacher who got involved here). TC ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2962 **********************