WWI Digest 2958 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Kid modelling WAS: Rosemont Hobby Shop by Shane Weier 2) Re: Great Web Site! by "Tom Solinski" 3) Re: List meeting Down Under by MAnde72343@aol.com 4) Re: Kid modelling WAS: Rosemont Hobby Shop by Rob & Sherry 5) How Many? by MAnde72343@aol.com 6) Re: Hannants Mail Order by MAnde72343@aol.com 7) Re: Great Web Site! by "Steven M.Perry" 8) Re: Great Web Site! by Rob & Sherry 9) Re: Nieuport 17 Status Update and Cockpit References by "David Calhoun" 10) Re: Great Web Site! by "Steven M.Perry" 11) RE: Staaken Article from the 80's by Brent Theobald 12) Re: Great Web Site! by "Tom Solinski" 13) Re: Great Web Site! by Rob & Sherry 14) Re: Great Web Site! by "Tom Solinski" 15) Re: Great Web Site! by "Steven M.Perry" 16) Painting help :) by "Nigel Rayner" 17) Re: Great Web Site! by "David Calhoun" 18) by fedders 19) Re: Great Web Site! by "Steven M.Perry" 20) Re: Great Web Site! by "Matt Bittner" 21) Re: Great Web Site! by "Matt Bittner" 22) Re: (null) by "Matt Bittner" 23) Discovery Wings by Rob & Sherry 24) Re: Anniversary by Marc Flake 25) "The whole nine yards by MAnde72343@aol.com 26) Caproni Ca.lll info by JVT7532@aol.com 27) Important info Re: Modelbud by DNSH@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:02:29 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Kid modelling WAS: Rosemont Hobby Shop Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71017489EB@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Rob, > Spend a day with my 3 kids and you wonder why I waited > untill 7:30 pm to start on the rum ;) I have three of my own thanks. Reason enough to splice the mainbrace just abaft midday ;-) I had intended to do some highly OT modelling last Sunday - all afternoon, since for once a Summer day was cool enough to encourage me. However my son (age 6) wanted to use my bench to finish painting his Heller Stag Beetle. Cool by me, at least he's modelling. He knew I wanted to model straight after him, so as soon as he'd done he stood up, simultaneously picking up an almost full bottle of Tamiya flat black by the lid - which he hadn't screwed on. The bottle stayed with the lid until he had it over the tiles, then departed. Holy sh*t Batman. Despite an instant assault it took me two hours to get the paint off the tiles and wall, sadly leaving my hitherto natural pine shelves and storage drawers tastefully spatter camouflaged but doing no other lasting damage. THEN......I had a drink. Err, several drinks. Who needs modelling when you have kids to do it for you :-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:01:44 -0600 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Great Web Site! Message-ID: <002c01c079d7$bc1b2900$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> Great Idea Steve!!! Sadly my eyes limit me to brail scale Tom S ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven M.Perry To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 6:29 PM Subject: Re: Great Web Site! > > > Howdy! > > > > This is great! I hope some of those kids learn something and remember it. > > Maybe they will even become interested in history and aviation. > > > > Good work > > I have a couple of Esci kits I'd donate. If here are enough others with > spare Escis or the like, maybe we could send a kit to each kid in the class. > There are only 10. Maybe include a couple of paragraphs written about a > pilot who flew an aircraft of that type. > > sp > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:02:55 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List meeting Down Under Message-ID: --part1_d8.b17e53.278bbd3f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, I would love to come up there some summer, I owe some graves a visit, the last of my relatives in NF died about 30 years ago. Merrill --part1_d8.b17e53.278bbd3f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, I would love to come up there some summer, I owe some graves a visit,
the last of my relatives in NF died about 30 years ago.
Merrill

--part1_d8.b17e53.278bbd3f_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 20:16:43 -0500 From: Rob & Sherry To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Kid modelling WAS: Rosemont Hobby Shop Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010108201643.007d0b50@pop-server.tampabay.rr.com> Shane, LOL, arn't kids great ;-) don't even mention Humbrol flat red, the kitchen chairs and my 3 year old boy to SWMBO. Anyone know how to remove Humbrol out of a fabric chair? How he got the tin opened is beyond me. However, he does have a very nice 1/144 airforce of watercolor painted red/blue/yellow and green jets ;) Just the start of other modeller!! Rob At 08:07 PM 1/8/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Rob, > > >> Spend a day with my 3 kids and you wonder why I waited >> untill 7:30 pm to start on the rum ;) > >I have three of my own thanks. Reason enough to splice the mainbrace just >abaft midday ;-) > >I had intended to do some highly OT modelling last Sunday - all afternoon, >since for once a Summer day was cool enough to encourage me. However my son >(age 6) wanted to use my bench to finish painting his Heller Stag Beetle. >Cool by me, at least he's modelling. He knew I wanted to model straight >after him, so as soon as he'd done he stood up, simultaneously picking up an >almost full bottle of Tamiya flat black by the lid - which he hadn't screwed >on. The bottle stayed with the lid until he had it over the tiles, then >departed. > >Holy sh*t Batman. Despite an instant assault it took me two hours to get >the paint off the tiles and wall, sadly leaving my hitherto natural pine >shelves and storage drawers tastefully spatter camouflaged but doing no >other lasting damage. > >THEN......I had a drink. Err, several drinks. Who needs modelling when you >have kids to do it for you :-) > >Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >********************************************************************** >The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is >intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or >copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to >forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the >MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > >e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au >phone: Australia 1800500646 >********************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:10:34 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: How Many? Message-ID: --part1_b0.ebc2d15.278bbf0a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am relieved to hear that I'm not the only one who has several kits started, and not too many finished, the exact number is unknown, because I don't keep track, but it must be about a dozen started, with only 4 finished last year, (and the usual resolution to finish what I started, which is unlikely) but I do expect to finish my Cookup Pledges at least (I'm cheating, they're started). Merrill --part1_b0.ebc2d15.278bbf0a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am relieved to hear that I'm not the only one who has several kits started,
and not too many finished, the exact number is unknown, because I don't keep
track, but it must be about a dozen started, with only 4 finished last year,
(and the usual resolution to finish what I started, which is unlikely) but I
do expect to finish my Cookup Pledges at least (I'm cheating, they're
started).
Merrill

--part1_b0.ebc2d15.278bbf0a_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:21:57 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hannants Mail Order Message-ID: <53.bf1809.278bc1b5@aol.com> --part1_53.bf1809.278bc1b5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, John Roll deals with Hannants, and you can get everything they have from him, usually, but trans Atlantic shipping is sometimes slow, so patience is required. Merrill --part1_53.bf1809.278bc1b5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, John Roll deals with Hannants, and you can get everything they have
from him, usually, but trans Atlantic shipping is sometimes slow, so patience
is required.
Merrill

--part1_53.bf1809.278bc1b5_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:23:22 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Great Web Site! Message-ID: <00ab01c079da$c3b19340$03f0aec7@default> > Great Idea Steve!!! Sadly my eyes limit me to brail scale Doesn't have to be 1/Bittnernd scale. An old Smer Albatros or a Testors Nieuport or Spad would work too. Anything easy. Put a WWI kit in a kid's hand and they'll try to build it. While building, even if they don't finish it, they will be imagining and next thing you know, learning. The kind of scenerio I like. Good opportunity to cull the herd, we need 8 easy to build OT models, preferably in the box with usable decals, (even if they are from the spares box). We've had many threads on the need for new blood in the hobby as well as several about the sad state of education about the WWI period. Here's a chance to do something about that which also happens to be in keeping with the generous spirit which runs through out this List. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 20:26:26 -0500 From: Rob & Sherry To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Great Web Site! Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010108202626.00851360@pop-server.tampabay.rr.com> Hey! I would be willing to drive down to the local shop and purchase a Revell kit (or anything else that may be needed) to donate. As far as I am concerned, If new modelers do not get interested, there will be nothing available in 10-15 years. Well worth $5-$10 !! Rob P.S. Thnks to all that have been building since I was (????) a kid, so I have a vast selection of kits to chose from! At 07:29 PM 1/8/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >> Howdy! >> >> This is great! I hope some of those kids learn something and remember it. >> Maybe they will even become interested in history and aviation. >> >> Good work > >I have a couple of Esci kits I'd donate. If here are enough others with >spare Escis or the like, maybe we could send a kit to each kid in the class. >There are only 10. Maybe include a couple of paragraphs written about a >pilot who flew an aircraft of that type. > >sp > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:32:41 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Nieuport 17 Status Update and Cockpit References Message-ID: <01f601c079f5$384d1ca0$86093ccc@oemcomputer> Hi Lance, I've tried a couple of different items to represent the cellon panels of the N.17 & n.21 center section. A good method in 1/48 scale is to use clear tape (not the frosted type). attach it to the flat bottom, wrap it over the leading edge tightly over the top, and trim the semicircle out where the 2 pieces meet (I use a piece if thin wire to represent the structure here). Trim the 2 sides as close to the edge of the wing as possible. A brush full of Future will seal all edges. For my 1/24 scale one I tried 2 different methods. First I used cellophane from a pack of cigarettes (cellon!) but could not get it smooth enough for my tastes. I removed the upper surface, and filled in between the ribs with Microscale crystal clear. This takes a long time, you must do it in thin layers and wait a couple of days for each layer to dry clear. The finished method looks good but is somewhat cloudy. I read that the actual cellon got dirty, scratched or cloudy in use, so this may be more prototypical than I imagine. Hope this helps. Dave Calhoun ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance Krieg" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 1:25 PM Subject: Re: Nieuport 17 Status Update and Cockpit References > Ken: > > You might check the in-progress shots of my N.17 on the web site, which was constructed using the references you mentioned. I also opened up the center of the upper wing, as you plan to do. > > I will say this about the cockpit interior; almost nothing is visible on the completed model except the seat and the side walls, so spare yourself a lot of the work and concentrate on getting a couple of instruments to a jewel-like finish. > > Let me know what you plan to use for the Cellon panel, and how it comes out. I found that to be a surprisingly tricky part of the exercise. > > All of the references you mentioned are available through the library loan programs, but are largely superflous if you have the Albatros Nieuport special. > > Lance > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:35:13 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Great Web Site! Message-ID: <00cf01c079dc$6b10c100$03f0aec7@default> > Hey! > I would be willing to drive down to the local shop and purchase a Revell > kit (or anything else that may be needed) to donate. Great Rob. Then that makes 7 more to go. If we get 10 kits pledged, I'll contact the teacher and see what happens from there. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:37:36 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Staaken Article from the 80's Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79EC04@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Hi Dave, "I can copy & send you the part 1 pages - I'm in the UK if you can't get them closer to hand." I'm hoping someone here in the Colonies will be able to make copies for me. I've located another set in Australia too. Was this magazine available in the US back then? Thanks! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:40:58 -0600 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Great Web Site! Message-ID: <001401c079dd$376d09c0$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> Just a thought. I'm willing to cough up to 1/48ths if we can stick to that scale because: 1. little fingers get bigger parts to deal with, and 2. a mix of 48 and 72 ends up in a "Your's is bigger than mine!" whine, (If you aint a dad you won't understand) So have I got 7 other big kits out there? Tom S OKC If you aren't making waves, you aren't making headway! ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven M.Perry To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 7:27 PM Subject: Re: Great Web Site! > > > Great Idea Steve!!! Sadly my eyes limit me to brail scale > > Doesn't have to be 1/Bittnernd scale. An old Smer Albatros or a Testors > Nieuport or Spad would work too. Anything easy. > > Put a WWI kit in a kid's hand and they'll try to build it. While building, > even if they don't finish it, they will be imagining and next thing you > know, learning. The kind of scenerio I like. > > Good opportunity to cull the herd, we need 8 easy to build OT models, > preferably in the box with usable decals, (even if they are from the spares > box). We've had many threads on the need for new blood in the hobby as well > as several about the sad state of education about the WWI period. Here's a > chance to do something about that which also happens to be in keeping with > the generous spirit which runs through out this List. > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 20:48:56 -0500 From: Rob & Sherry To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Great Web Site! Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010108204856.00856bc0@pop-server.tampabay.rr.com> Steve, Just let me know, as a matter of fact, I have 3 each Academy Spads and Sopwith's (six total) I can donate a.s.a.p., but am willing to get whatever I can, to do whatever it takes :) Rob At 08:38 PM 1/8/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >> Hey! >> I would be willing to drive down to the local shop and purchase a Revell >> kit (or anything else that may be needed) to donate. > >Great Rob. Then that makes 7 more to go. If we get 10 kits pledged, I'll >contact the teacher and see what happens from there. >sp > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:52:34 -0600 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Great Web Site! Message-ID: <000801c079de$d616e860$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> OK I'll up my auntie never did like that side of the family I'll commit one each Monogram Camel, SE-5 and Fok.D-VII, and an old SMER Soviet SVA-5. So 5 more brail scalers out there? fork up Tom S OKC If you aren't making waves, you aren't making headway! ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob & Sherry To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Great Web Site! > Steve, > Just let me know, as a matter of fact, I have 3 each Academy Spads and > Sopwith's (six total) I can donate a.s.a.p., but am willing to get whatever > I can, to do whatever it takes :) > Rob > > At 08:38 PM 1/8/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > > >> Hey! > >> I would be willing to drive down to the local shop and purchase a Revell > >> kit (or anything else that may be needed) to donate. > > > >Great Rob. Then that makes 7 more to go. If we get 10 kits pledged, I'll > >contact the teacher and see what happens from there. > >sp > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:57:59 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Great Web Site! Message-ID: <00e401c079df$9a706920$03f0aec7@default> > Just a thought. I'm willing to cough up to 1/48ths if we can stick to that > scale because: > 1. little fingers get bigger parts to deal with, and > 2. a mix of 48 and 72 ends up in a "Your's is bigger than mine!" whine, (If > you aint a dad you won't understand) > So have I got 7 other big kits out there? > Tom S Good points Tom. Quarter scale is better for littl people. And the size differential would cause problems with kids. (I only habe one and she whines anout everything so I kinda overlooked that point. I have a Smer Camel that shouldn't be too challenging. Rob if you go buy one, get a Testors Nie or Spad, or something on that level of simplicity, but wait till we get all 10 pledged and firm it up with the Teacher. 6 more folks. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:59:44 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Painting help :) Message-ID: <000001c079df$d6221680$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Rob wrote: > I have another general question for the group....Yes, here we go again! I > have read posts that some do not use airbrushes. Quite right. They are the devil's work, evil noxious things dealing death and destruction in every direction (quite a lot of "d"s there....). Real men (and women) don't use them :-) >I am ready to paint my > Toko Pfalz D.XII, I am planning the overall gray (grey?) scheme as on the > box. Don't recall the grey scheme. I built this a while back, and there were two options - the overall silbergrau (a mix of silver and grey) with a yellow stripe and the one with camo bands on the fuselage. Beware - IIRC people more expert than me warned that the silbegrau finish is totally fictitious. I have yet to get an airbrush, so........is there a method > of painting > with a brush (using the called for Humbrol paint) that will yield a decent > results? This is a long answer, and I must get around to finishing my treatise on painting. Here's a few hints. Use the very best quality brushes you can find. For painting larger areas, such as 1/72 fuselages and wings, get an artist's chisel headed brush. This has a wide flat head (1/2" is fine for 1/72, perhaps 3/4" if it's a bigger plane). Go to an art shop or good craft shop and buy a couple of the most expensive ones you can find (I use Winsor & Newton Cotman 666 series, but this is a UK brand). For detail work, buy a standard pointed brush (size 2 should be fine). Get the very best quality sable brushes they have for the pointy one (Kolinski Sable is a name you might see). Humbrol is a little tricky to brush paint with as it dries quite quickly (although I find Testors an absolute nightmare). Part of the trick is in the undercoat - do not use spray undercoat from a tin, as this gives a rough and powdery surface which speeds up the drying time (making it difficult to get a nice even coat). Instead, undercoat in a suitable colour using the chisel headed brush. If this is a light colour, it will look terrible (very patchy), but don't worry. You will need at least 1 undercoat and 2 topcoats to get effective cover for light colours such as CDL. Darker colours (greens and browns say) work quite well without an undercoat (but may need two coats), and metallic colours also cover quite well, so for silbegrau you could probably do without an undercoat. When brushing, use long flowing strokes and work quickly using the chisel-headed brush. I'd recommend you practice on some scrap plastic first just to get the feel for the paint (try out the whole nine yards - do some undercoat and then try brushing on various colours to see how they cover). I have just started using the MisterKit paints and like the way they brush, although other listees have reported some issues in brushing with them. Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:03:29 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Great Web Site! Message-ID: <02cc01c079f9$831ff0a0$86093ccc@oemcomputer> I can send a 1/48 Nieuport 17 & Spad 13 (Testors kits) Dave Calhoun ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven M.Perry" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Great Web Site! > > > Hey! > > I would be willing to drive down to the local shop and purchase a Revell > > kit (or anything else that may be needed) to donate. > > Great Rob. Then that makes 7 more to go. If we get 10 kits pledged, I'll > contact the teacher and see what happens from there. > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:01:50 -0600 (CST) From: fedders To: models Message-ID: I am thinking of buying the AJP Voisin. Does anybody know who sells it? I have built the AJP Caudrons G3 and G4 and both are very nice - but expensive and a lot of work peter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:08:20 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Great Web Site! Message-ID: <00f801c079e1$0b337ca0$03f0aec7@default> > I can send a 1/48 Nieuport 17 & Spad 13 (Testors kits) > Dave Calhoun OK: Steve 1 Tom 5 Rob 1 Dave 1 2 more sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 20:12:01 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Great Web Site! Message-ID: <200101090212.SAA20685@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:38:27 -0500 (EST), Steven M.Perry wrote: > Great Rob. Then that makes 7 more to go. If we get 10 kits pledged, I'll > contact the teacher and see what happens from there. Count me in!!! Hopefully I'll be able to find an ESCI Nieuport to donate. It's not like I don't have a couple... ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 20:13:54 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Great Web Site! Message-ID: <200101090213.SAA15679@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:02:46 -0500 (EST), Steven M.Perry wrote: > Good points Tom. Quarter scale is better for littl people. And the size > differential would cause problems with kids. (I only habe one and she whines > anout everything so I kinda overlooked that point. I don't believe that for a second. My five year old son yesterday built a snap-together Sith Infiltrator that's smaller than the armored car I just finished. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 20:14:37 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: (null) Message-ID: <200101090214.SAA18168@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:05:53 -0500 (EST), fedders wrote: > I have built the AJP Caudrons G3 and G4 and both are very nice - but > expensive and a lot of work Okay, but what the rest of the list wants to know is - where are the images? ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:15:00 -0500 From: Rob & Sherry To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Discovery Wings Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010108211500.00853700@pop-server.tampabay.rr.com> Anyone that gets Discovery Wings channel. There is a program on Igor Sikorsky showing right now. (9:00 pm E.S.T.) Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 20:18:43 -0600 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Anniversary Message-ID: <3A5A7503.1B5@airmail.net> My, but aren't we a talkative bunch today! Way back at WWI Digest 2953, Brent Theobald noted that of the 21 OT kits I completed this year, there were only 10 with photos on the site. He wonders where photos of the other 11 are. I'll be setting up my "studio" later this week and will try to have stills on the scanner by Saturday. Categories will be "Vehicles," Pflaz Pfighters" and "Flying boats." I'll also have an addition to the "Fokker Fighters" as I'm about to finish the Eduard D VIII. There are more pictures of the Roden D VIII and the Roden F.1. I sent these along to Alan just before the holiday break. He should be posting them soon. Then everyone will know where I stand on the Voss cowl controversy. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:24:09 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: "The whole nine yards Message-ID: <5a.f797036.278bd049@aol.com> --part1_5a.f797036.278bd049_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried to send this direct, but got it back, so here goes the ot answer. I heard that 'the whole nine yards' refers to the amount of cloth in the traditional Scottish "great kilt", not the 'skirt', but the toga wrapped old fashioned type (ala "Braveheart") which could be used in all sorts of weather, ever thrown over the head. Merrill --part1_5a.f797036.278bd049_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried to send this direct, but got it back, so here goes the ot answer. I
heard that 'the whole nine yards' refers to the amount of cloth in the
traditional Scottish "great kilt", not the 'skirt', but the toga wrapped old
fashioned type (ala "Braveheart") which could be used in all sorts of
weather, ever thrown over the head.
Merrill

--part1_5a.f797036.278bd049_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:26:31 EST From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Caproni Ca.lll info Message-ID: <9.f6bd6f4.278bd0d7@aol.com> Happy New Year to everyone. Alberto C. was kind enough to send me some very good information & drawings on the Caproni Ca.lll. Brent T. has requested a copy which I have made for him. I have made one more copy if there is anyone else who would be building one now or in the near future. Check with me off list to be sure you don't have it already and I would be happy to send it to you. Please just say thank you to Alberto for sharing with us when you get it Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:23:31 EST From: DNSH@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, theobat1@airmail.net Subject: Important info Re: Modelbud Message-ID: <4f.5d4a9bb.278bd023@aol.com> --part1_4f.5d4a9bb.278bd023_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I noticed your discussion of a group order from Modelbud. Below is a respons= e=20 from them regarding orders from their site. Apparently, the prices are=20 wholesale and the retail price per kit is significantly higher. Also, they=20 don't take credit cards. Not sure if this had been brought up before, but i= f=20 not, it may influence your decision to buy. Take care, Dan Hartz Thank you for email. Prices on my Web are for wholesale and without postage cost, first 1kg-15 USD. Prices for individual customer series:=A0 A-25 USD =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 B-30 USD =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 C-40 USD =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 D-60 USD =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 E-80 USD Payment by bank transfer or banker's cheque or IPMO. The realisation of cards is impossibile. Regards. Tomasz Choroszy. --part1_4f.5d4a9bb.278bd023_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

I noticed your discussion of a group order from Modelbud. Below is a res= ponse
from them regarding orders from their site.  Apparently, the=20= prices are
wholesale and the retail price per kit is significantly highe= r.  Also, they
don't take credit cards.  Not sure if this had=20= been brought up before, but if
not, it may influence your decision to bu= y.

Take care,
Dan Hartz

Thank you for email.

Prices on my Web are for wholesale and without postage cost,
first 1kg-15 USD.
Prices for individual customer series:=A0 A-25 USD
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 B-30 USD
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Payment by bank transfer or banker's cheque or IPMO.
The realisation of cards is impossibile.


Regards.

Tomasz Choroszy.



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