WWI Digest 2954

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) RE: How Many?
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
  2) RE: How Many?
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
  3) ot night spcae picture of the globe RE: List meeting Down Under
	by "cameron rile" <cameron@prontomail.com>
  4) Re: How Many?
	by Jan Vihonen <jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi>
  5) RE: How Many?
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
  6) Models in progress, and a question
	by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" <KZELNIC@entergy.com>
  7) Re: How Many?
	by "TOM PLESHA" <APPMAN@worldnet.att.net>
  8) wingroots
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
  9) RE: How Many?
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 10) Re: List meeting Down Under
	by Mark Vaughan-Jackson <mvj@thetelegram.com>
 11) Re: How Many?
	by Jan Vihonen <jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi>
 12) Re: Tripe help for cookup
	by Mark Vaughan-Jackson <mvj@thetelegram.com>
 13) the virus of modeling was RE: How Many?
	by "Gaston Graf" <ggraf@vo.lu>
 14) RE: How Many?
	by Mark Vaughan-Jackson <mvj@thetelegram.com>
 15) Re: How Many?
	by Rob & Sherry <rweiner@tampabay.rr.com>
 16) Norwegian W29
	by Rob & Sherry <rweiner@tampabay.rr.com>
 17) Re: Baracca and Ferrari
	by "Mark Shannon" <mshannon@tnrcc.state.tx.us>
 18) RE: How Many?
	by "Gaston Graf" <ggraf@vo.lu>
 19) Re: Baracca and Ferrari
	by Jan Vihonen <jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi>
 20) RE: How Many?
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 21) MoS dilemma
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 22) RE: MoS dilemma
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 23) Re: How Many?
	by "Mark Shannon" <mshannon@tnrcc.state.tx.us>
 24) RE: MoS dilemma
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 25) RE: MoS dilemma
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 26) RE: MoS dilemma
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 27) RE: MoS dilemma
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 28) Re: MoS dilemma
	by Jan Vihonen <jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi>
 29) RE: How Many?
	by Brent Theobald <btheobal@sta.samsung.com>
 30) Re: Great Web Site!
	by Allan Wright <aew>
 31) Re: MoS dilemma
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 32) RE: Great Web Site!
	by Brent Theobald <btheobal@sta.samsung.com>

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:04:59 +0100 
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: How Many?
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A017D089C@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>



-

> A general question to the list members..... How many kits does everyone
> usually have going at once? start to finish, one? Several slowly coming
> along? To many to count 1/2 built?
> Rob

I usually have about two going at the same time, I have one unfinished model
that is now close to 20 yrs old. It's ot so you don't care. I like to 
combine models so that I can paint two with the same colour. I have noticed
that I have been forced to increase my amount of models due to the list.
I feel I have to have an OT model going, so I just signed up for a Sopwith
Schneider 1914 racer for the cook-up. Three is my maximum, ever.
/Neil

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:08:32 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: How Many?
Message-ID: <040b01c0796b$b8395300$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Neil:
I love the machines, but the races have lost some interest for me about ten
years ago... Besides no valuable argie pilot still races.
Did you knew that our province governor is ex F1 pilot Alberto Reutemann? He
had more luck as politician than as a pilot.
OT content: Sometimes, sometimes when I'm lazing in a sunday afternoon, I'm
tempted to build an Alabtros in Marlboro markings.
D.
> Aha, I seem to detect a Formula 1 enthusiast?



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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:23:31 -0500
From: "cameron rile" <cameron@prontomail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: ot night spcae picture of the globe RE: List meeting Down Under
Message-ID: <572737B9A35E4D115A750005B80A9E19@cameron.prontomail.com>



>> In my experience, the thing with the US is, there
>> is a *lot* of stuff everywhere, in Australia once
>> you head west past Lithgow from Sydney there is
>> *no* stuff at all.
>
>Rubbish. You just need to know what you're looking at. 
>Red dirt mostly. LOL

lol, as a visual example of the differance in population density on 
the Australian, North American and European continents check out this 
global night shot of the world.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg

For Australia, the 5 really bright dots in anti-clockwise order are 
Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and on the Western side of the 
continent, Perth. The first four are pretty much what Volker will be 
traveling from and to! :) 


cam
AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/

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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 14:43:27 +0200
From: Jan Vihonen <jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: How Many?
Message-ID: <3A59B5EF.8E180858@helsinki.fi>


> I love the machines, but the races have lost some interest for me about ten
> years ago... Besides no valuable argie pilot still races.

Hmm, now that there are few Finnish drivers in F1 even I have have been
watching races occasionally.

> OT content: Sometimes, sometimes when I'm lazing in a sunday afternoon, I'm
> tempted to build an Alabtros in Marlboro markings.

Must be the hot afternoon sun. Remember to wear a hat. ;-)

Jan

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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 06:58:48 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: How Many?
Message-ID: <200101081258.EAA24867@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:05:07 -0500 (EST), Crawford Neil wrote:

> Actually it looks like a shortened Salmson 2A2, really cool!
> If I'm thinking of the same aeroplane....

You are correct.  Hanriot was license-building Salmson's when they
decided to make the HD.3.  Engine is the same as the 2A.2, and the cowl
looks very similar.  However, that's where the external similarities
end.


Matt Bittner



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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:03:16 -0600 
From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" <KZELNIC@entergy.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Models in progress, and a question
Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A249078012ABABD@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com>

Greetings,

I usually limit myself to one (or fewer) at a time, but I currently have two
models in progress.  I have a question about one.

A while back, someone was talking about inserting brass rods or pins into a
joint for strength, and described a method to get the holes in the two
plastic parts to line up.  Unfortunately, I can't remember what that method
was.  Does anyone remember this, or am I just babbling?

TIA,

Ken Zelnick

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:06:17 -0500
From: "TOM PLESHA" <APPMAN@worldnet.att.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: How Many?
Message-ID: <000d01c07973$ca4085c0$c7404c0c@tom>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob & Sherry" <rweiner@tampabay.rr.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:34 PM
Subject: How Many?

Original message:

> A general question to the list members..... How many kits does everyone
> usually have going at once? start to finish, one? Several slowly coming
> along? To many to count 1/2 built?
> Rob
>
I usually have 1-3 on-going projects, but that includes research-making
drawings-planning changes-etc. to at least one of them.
I usually, primarily work on 1 from start to finish.
Tom
>


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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:26:07 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: wingroots
Message-ID: <042601c07976$8f139160$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Ken:
This is what I did for my taube in 1/72 (the pegasus wings had no aligning
tabs and are quite heavy):
Insert the brass rods into the wing, taking care that the ends of these
protruding wires are filed flat.
Invent a sort of jig or alignment aid to position the wings accurately
respect to fuselage ( making sure that the placement is even to both sides
and the incidence angle is correct). I used a cardboard box with
perpendicular lines drawn over it, nothing too fancy.
With a wet felt marker or a small brushload of paint, stain the rods ends
with wet colour. Lean these ends over the fuselage sides in the correct
placement (that's why a trustful jig is needed) The fuselage will have a
tiny dot where it was painted by the rod's end.
After you are sure that these placement marks are correct (it may take a few
trys) let the paint/ink dry and later drill holes where marks are. Paint the
model, paint the wings and later fix them with epoxy glue at the desired
diedhral angle.
D.

----- Original Message -----
From: ZELNICK, KENNETH T <KZELNIC@entergy.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 10:07 AM
Subject: Models in progress, and a question


> Greetings,
>
> I usually limit myself to one (or fewer) at a time, but I currently have
two
> models in progress.  I have a question about one.
>
> A while back, someone was talking about inserting brass rods or pins into
a
> joint for strength, and described a method to get the holes in the two
> plastic parts to line up.  Unfortunately, I can't remember what that
method
> was.  Does anyone remember this, or am I just babbling?
>
> TIA,
>
> Ken Zelnick
>


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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:30:24 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: How Many?
Message-ID: <045101c07977$2817ee60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Jan answered to
> > when I'm lazing in a sunday afternoon, I'm
> > tempted to build an Alabtros in Marlboro markings.
>
> Must be the hot afternoon sun. Remember to wear a hat. ;-)

I will. Everybody knows that Albatros should be painted on SKOL markings ;-)
D.
PS: Baracca had the first "Ferrari" marking ever displayed. Too bad he
didn't had a red plane!


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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:23:38 -0400
From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson <mvj@thetelegram.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: List meeting Down Under
Message-ID: <l03130303b67f441ce085@[192.168.233.66]>

Tom wrote "
SNIP
>
>If you think you have "size trouble" in Australia, Shane, I shall never
>forget Dave and Caroline Carter of WEM talking about "popping over to Chino"
>from the 1998 Nats, held in San Jose - they were totally amazed when I
>explained it would be something akin to going from London to the northernmost
>outpost of civilization on the island of Britain.  That's a common European
>problem when they get to really biiig places like Australia and the U.S.
>
>TC

Same ting in Canada.
I have people across the pond ask if I 'know so and so. I think he lives in
Victora, BC," which is near Bob Pearson.
I on the other hand am on the other side of the continent in Newfoundland
about 6,000 miles away.

That being said should anyone ever find themselves in this neck of the
woods, my humble door is always open.
once I get the kids off to bed I can promise, fine food (just got a couple
of killer cookbooks), lots of red wine and suitably OT conversation.
MVJ



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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 15:44:26 +0200
From: Jan Vihonen <jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: How Many?
Message-ID: <3A59C43A.C440CC5C@helsinki.fi>


> I will. Everybody knows that Albatros should be painted on SKOL markings ;-)

That's right. :-)

> PS: Baracca had the first "Ferrari" marking ever displayed.

Yep, even before Ferrari. ;-)

 Too bad he
> didn't had a red plane!

No, I guess it was Germans who made a fashion of flying red planes. With
the few exceptions discussed recently on the list.

Sliding slightly ot, how come Ferrari adopted the "cavallino rampante"
as it's trademark. Any real relation to Baracca?

Jan

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:33:11 -0400
From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson <mvj@thetelegram.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Tripe help for cookup
Message-ID: <l03130304b67f465d681b@[192.168.233.66]>

Chris,
If the Smer kit was from the double kit with the Alb I agree with the
list's concensus - landfill the alb and focus on the Tripe.

not a bad kit. Goes together very nicely and there's enough room in the
cockpit to go to town on the detailing.,

A word of caution with the Kit decals. . .they have an nasty habit of
wriggling themselves into knots as soon as they touch water.
This was the kit that I had the decal explosion on the night before a contest.
Thanks to a list member I now have the Koster decal sheet (lovely stuff) so
this will be one of my cook-up entries.

Again, this double kit is definitely worth it for the Tripe alone.

MVJ



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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:54:20 +0100
From: "Gaston Graf" <ggraf@vo.lu>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: the virus of modeling was RE: How Many?
Message-ID: <NEEILCFEPCBGPDBHJFKHGELBCDAA.ggraf@vo.lu>

<grin> That's the "I wanna buildbuildbuild" virus which is also affecting me
sometimes. It's always best to avoid the workbench area and put the new kit
onto the pile of other kits on the shelf immediately after coming hom. Do
NOT look at it again for the next 13 months or so.
I often take the assembly plan out of the box and take the plan together
with some books to work to study for possible and/or necessary
superdetailing. At work I sometimes find time for that when I am waiting for
a freight train to arrive or being composed for me to haul somewhere between
France and Belgium. Also I do the rough work sometimes at work - sanding and
cutting plus some of the assembly.

One of the nicest moments in modeling is it to open the kit, carefully
taking the platic bags out with the parts inside.... taking a sniff of the
wonderful smell of fresh plastic...

Oh I forgot to mention that I also started to build the Titanic 1/350th from
Academy about one year ago. I got it started because it is such a wonderful
kit...

And the kit which I will never build is the PBY Catalina 1/72 of the series
2 from Airfix. This was the very first kit of my life which I build at the
age of 8 - yes I am of the Airfix generation. I was nuts for aircraft and
wanted to get one of those that I saw in the window of a paintshop. My dad
bought it for me, I openend to box and feld very disappointed to find only
parts inside, which did not look  like the beautiful picture on the cardbox.
But then I liked the feeling to examine the parts, took them out of the box,
and from that day on the virus of modeling had infected me. There is no cure
so far... So I had to assemble the parts myself and because I did not know
yet what to do with the decals I cut them out of the sheet and glued them
onto the model instead of solving them in water...

About 14 years ago I found excactly this model at the IMPS Flanders Contest
in Antwerp, Belgium. I bought it immediately and opened the box... and feld
myself like travelling back in time to that day where I was 8 years.
Wonderful!

ooops.........gotta run, forgot the time

 Gaston Graf
(ggraf@vo.lu)
Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at:
http://www.jastaboelcke.de

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of
> dfernet0
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:34 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: RE: How Many?
>
>
> I can't say...
> I usualy start a new model if I'm in the mood, and almost every new kit I
> get is de-sprued as soon as it gets near the workbench. This summer, as I
> feel too cranky with hot weather to do detail work, I packed my almost
> finished Albatros and Taube for a while and got out some vacs and other
> projects for 2001 to sand fuselage interiors and cut pieces from styrene
> sheets (and ruin the wings, while at it).
> So far, I've sanded about 4 kit fuselages and cut out 3 vac kits. After
> that, I usually box them away and keep them for rainy days. As much as I
> enjoy building tiny details, if the temperature rises over 25ºC
> and the sun
> shines outside I can't bear to do dials 1mm wide!
> D.
>
>


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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:35:56 -0400
From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson <mvj@thetelegram.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: RE: How Many?
Message-ID: <l03130305b67f47169398@[192.168.233.66]>

Chris B-R wrote:
>Do you really want to know?  At last count I had over 30 kits started.
>
>And this weekend I started two more.
>
>Finished?  A whopping 9.....
>

I'm definitely with Chris on this one, alas. Not counting the dozen or so
half built kits I fatalistically boxed and tidied away a year ago I know
have about 16 kits in various states of completion.
And I doubt I'll finish anything OT for a while - I have 15 ot kits for my
museum build on the bench right now. A solid week of painting and marking
ahead. . .sigh,

MVJ



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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 07:45:29 -0500
From: Rob & Sherry <rweiner@tampabay.rr.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: How Many?
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010108074529.008458c0@pop-server.tampabay.rr.com>

LOL,  I'll take that as a "To many to count 1/2 built"!
Rob

At 12:43 AM 1/8/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Mind yer own damned business!!!
>:-)
>E.
>
>
>


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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 08:18:33 -0500
From: Rob & Sherry <rweiner@tampabay.rr.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Norwegian W29
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010108081833.008458b0@pop-server.tampabay.rr.com>

In my post about the Eastern Express kits, I mentioned that the W.29 did
not have decals for the Norwegian version. I recieved several emails saying
that the decals were wrong for the 2 W.29's that Norway had. The ONLY
painting and decaling inctructions in this kit are for the incorrect
Norwegian version! Apparently, the painting and decaling instructions for
the German version(s) were on the back of the Toko box. :)
Thanks to all who responded to my post with info and offers for reference
material for the Norwegian W29's!!
Rob
P.S. This may be a trivial complaint, but had I not found this list, I
wouldn't have know any better ;-)


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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 07:58:14 -0600
From: "Mark Shannon" <mshannon@tnrcc.state.tx.us>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Baracca and Ferrari
Message-ID: <sa597327.001@smtpgate.tnrcc.state.tx.us>

Jan Vehoven wrote:

>Sliding slightly ot, how come Ferrari adopted the "cavallino rampante"
>as it's trademark. Any real relation to Baracca?
>
>Jan

The story is that Baracca's widow allowed the young Enzo to put the Cavallino Rampante on the cars he drove.  One variant I have heard is that Enzo was that little hero-worshiping kid who hung around the Baracca's, but I'm not sure of that aspects' provenance.

.Mark.

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:03:21 +0100
From: "Gaston Graf" <ggraf@vo.lu>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: How Many?
Message-ID: <NEEILCFEPCBGPDBHJFKHEELECDAA.ggraf@vo.lu>

But I still need PICTURES and more PICTURES of it because the color scheme
of the assembly plan is wrong. There was a very nice book out in Japan but I
don't remember the title...

Gaston

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of
> dfernet0
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 1:03 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: RE: How Many?
>
>
> Gaston wrote:
> >I started Ayrton Sennas McLaren-Honda from the 1990 season...
>
> This one saves you from the punishment of building any other of the ot
> models you described. Go for it!
> D.
>


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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 16:07:17 +0200
From: Jan Vihonen <jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Baracca and Ferrari
Message-ID: <3A59C995.8916B428@helsinki.fi>

Mark Shannon wrote:

> The story is that Baracca's widow allowed the young Enzo to put the Cavallino Rampante on the cars he drove. 

Uhuh. I was there would be a story behind it. 

One variant I have heard is that Enzo was that little hero-worshiping
kid who hung around the Baracca's, but I'm not sure of that aspects'
provenance.

Well, if it's not entirely true, it makes a nice touch to the story. Or,
as the Italians might put it: se non è vero, è ben trovato.

Thanks.

Jan

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:05:54 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: How Many?
Message-ID: <04bf01c0797c$1e232820$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Check contemporary F1 racing magazines. A lot cheaper, I guess.
D.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gaston Graf <ggraf@vo.lu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:08 AM
Subject: RE: How Many?


> But I still need PICTURES and more PICTURES of it because the color scheme
> of the assembly plan is wrong. There was a very nice book out in Japan but
I
> don't remember the title...
>
> Gaston
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of
> > dfernet0
> > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 1:03 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > Subject: RE: How Many?
> >
> >
> > Gaston wrote:
> > >I started Ayrton Sennas McLaren-Honda from the 1990 season...
> >
> > This one saves you from the punishment of building any other of the ot
> > models you described. Go for it!
> > D.
> >
>


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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 08:12:00 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: MoS dilemma
Message-ID: <200101081412.GAA25276@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

One thing I would like to do is build a model of a Morane Saulnier type
every year.  Two years ago was the Type I; last year was the AI.  I
can't decide what to build this year.  I have the following to choose
from:

Veterans Type P
HR Type N
HR Type L
HR Type H
Ragwings Pfalz E.I into a Type G
Eastern (vac) Type BB

I really don't want to do anothe vac, so one of the other resin types
I'm looking toward.  All require work and unfortunately are not as easy
as the CM Type AI.  Right now I'm leaning toward the Type G.

Personally, I wish CM would come out with a Type AC and also a Type P. 
That would be great.


Matt Bittner



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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:14:32 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: MoS dilemma
Message-ID: <052c01c0797d$523bd660$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

The L is neat. I sure like to see how to support that resin wing just on
rigging!
The Type BB is one my preferred moranes, it looks weird. But if you don't
feel like doing a vac, it's out of the question.
D.

----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Bittner <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:15 AM
Subject: MoS dilemma


> One thing I would like to do is build a model of a Morane Saulnier type
> every year.  Two years ago was the Type I; last year was the AI.  I
> can't decide what to build this year.  I have the following to choose
> from:
>
> Veterans Type P
> HR Type N
> HR Type L
> HR Type H
> Ragwings Pfalz E.I into a Type G
> Eastern (vac) Type BB
>
> I really don't want to do anothe vac, so one of the other resin types
> I'm looking toward.  All require work and unfortunately are not as easy
> as the CM Type AI.  Right now I'm leaning toward the Type G.
>
> Personally, I wish CM would come out with a Type AC and also a Type P.
> That would be great.
>
>
> Matt Bittner
>
>


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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 08:20:18 -0600
From: "Mark Shannon" <mshannon@tnrcc.state.tx.us>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: How Many?
Message-ID: <sa59784d.064@smtpgate.tnrcc.state.tx.us>

A gentleman never tells, unless the Health and Public Welfare people force him to.....

Actually, I usually have two or three in fairly active progress at a time.  I pick ones that have some commonality in construction -- usually similar colors or schemes.  When they start reaching the point where the construction or painting diverge, -- or I get into a lot of fiddly bits that could get lost and mixed up easily --  I start concentrating on one and let the others go more slowly or during 'drying time' on the first.

I don't start a new model until the current projects are done (Ok, you caught me, but it's just removing mold marks and flash, or just gluing the engine halves together, or putting on the basecoat for the wood color so it can dry thoroughly, or drawing the wood grain -- that is not starting, and it depends on what 'is' is.

.Mark.

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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 08:30:19 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: MoS dilemma
Message-ID: <200101081430.GAA13142@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:21:40 -0500 (EST), dfernet0 wrote:

> The L is neat. I sure like to see how to support that resin wing just on
> rigging!

Actually I plan on replacing the wing with a Rosemont vac blank.  I
don't trust that resin wing at all with only those middle struts.

> The Type BB is one my preferred moranes, it looks weird. But if you don't
> feel like doing a vac, it's out of the question.

The biggest problem with the BB is that it was used by the French.  All
BB's when to the British.  So, I'll have to model it as the first
prototype machine which was in French markings.


Matt Bittner



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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 08:35:54 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: MoS dilemma
Message-ID: <200101081436.GAA05428@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:34:33 -0500 (EST), Matt Bittner wrote:

> The biggest problem with the BB is that it was used by the French.  All
> BB's when to the British.  So, I'll have to model it as the first
> prototype machine which was in French markings.

Cripes.  What I wanted to say was the BB was *not* used by the French. 
Gads...


Matt Bittner



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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:34:50 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: MoS dilemma
Message-ID: <054c01c07980$290d82e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>


Matt:
> The biggest problem with the BB is that it was used by the French.  All
> BB's when to the British.  So, I'll have to model it as the first
> prototype machine which was in French markings.
>

So, if I understand well, the only BBs in action were british? Another
question: is the fuselage of the BB the same as the bullet?
D.
Ces anglaises sont fous!


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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 08:41:34 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: MoS dilemma
Message-ID: <200101081441.GAA19890@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:41:32 -0500 (EST), dfernet0 wrote:

> So, if I understand well, the only BBs in action were british? Another
> question: is the fuselage of the BB the same as the bullet?

Correct, operational BB's were British.  I don't think the fuselage was
the same, especially since (if memory serves) the BB was a two seater. 
Much longer.


Matt Bittner



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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 16:51:05 +0200
From: Jan Vihonen <jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: MoS dilemma
Message-ID: <3A59D3D9.769B75A6@helsinki.fi>

Matt, while speaking of MoS Type L, uttered:

> Actually I plan on replacing the wing with a Rosemont vac blank.  I
> don't trust that resin wing at all with only those middle struts.

As I will, eventually, tackle the same kit, I have been wondering just
what to do with the resin wings, I'm most curious to learn what is a
"Rosemont vac blank"? Do they make a vac set for 'L', or a vac kit?

Jan

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:53:44 -0600 
From: Brent Theobald <btheobal@sta.samsung.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: How Many?
Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79EBF8@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com>

Howdy!

I have loads of projects started....

I have four Halberstadts started. I have an Re-8 that has been nearly done
for six months. I was making real progress on the 1/72 DH-2 but it has
fallen by the wayside. I still can't decide what type of five color lozenge
to finish the Gotha G.VII in. My original cook-up project, Dilthey's D.Va,
hasn't been unpacked from the move back home. All these projects are
percolating in their boxes and are off the workbench. They may be returned
at any moment. Dilthey's D.Va is most likely to be returned to the bench. I
have worked so hard on it that I would like to see something for my effort.

The only OT project I have on the bench is my second cook-up Albatros which
probably is only an hour or so away from completion (wheels, prop and
spinner). I have been caught up in building two review article subjects and
two challenge builds (Yikes! I have FIVE ot Mig-3's on the bench! All from
different manufacturers) and two P-5%'s. I know, I know, penance is due. At
least both Mu$t@ngs are in captured markings. I didn't pick the subject
either.

This is always a fun thread.

Later!

Brent

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:59:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: Lyonden200@aol.com
Cc: wwi
Subject: Re: Great Web Site!
Message-ID: <200101081459.JAA16588@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

> I came across your web site as I was researching WWI material for teaching a 
> history class to my 4th and 5th grade class.  I am quite fascinated with the 
> model planes and I was thinking that the class ( nine boys and one girl) 
> would also be facinated in the WWI model planes since we just completed a 
> unit on flight.  
> 
> Would you happen to know of anyone in the San Diego area that is into model 
> WWI planes that would be  willing to come and share information with my 
> class. 

Karen, I will forward your request to my modeling mailing list. If there
are any modelers local to you that are willing to come visit your class
they will contact you by e-mail.

> Are there kits available for this age group that I could assign for a 
> project?  

I do not know of any snap-together kits for World War I aeroplanes. For
children of that age I do not reccomend glue together models unless they
have a parent who is interested in modeling to help them through the
process. World War I models tend to be more complicated than other 
aeorplanes because of the multiple wings and wired rigging.

By the way, the San Diego Aeorspace Muesum has a great website, including
a section on World War I, and would be an excellent field trip oppertunity
for your class.

> I will have the kids check out you web site - What a great resource!!  Keep 
> up the great job!   
> Karen Lyon
> Lyonden200@aol.com

Thanks, I hope someone local to you is available.

-Allan

P.S. List, please contact Karen directly via e-mail if you are interested

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University of New Hampshire +--------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 09:02:17 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: MoS dilemma
Message-ID: <200101081502.HAA16526@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:54:14 -0500 (EST), Jan Vihonen wrote:

> As I will, eventually, tackle the same kit, I have been wondering just
> what to do with the resin wings, I'm most curious to learn what is a
> "Rosemont vac blank"? Do they make a vac set for 'L', or a vac kit?

No, Rosemont makes a set of vac wing "blanks" that can be used for
almost anything.  They're great for either this type of task (replacing
a wing) or for an easy way out of scratchbuilding.  Highly recommended!


Matt Bittner



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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:02:56 -0600 
From: Brent Theobald <btheobal@sta.samsung.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Great Web Site!
Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79EBF9@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com>

Howdy!

This is great! I hope some of those kids learn something and remember it.
Maybe they will even become interested in history and aviation.

Good work!


Brent

-----Original Message-----
From: Allan Wright [mailto:aew@pease1.sr.unh.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 9:01 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Great Web Site!


> I came across your web site as I was researching WWI material for teaching
a 
> history class to my 4th and 5th grade class.  I am quite fascinated with
the 
> model planes and I was thinking that the class ( nine boys and one girl) 
> would also be facinated in the WWI model planes since we just completed a 
> unit on flight.  
> 
> Would you happen to know of anyone in the San Diego area that is into
model 
> WWI planes that would be  willing to come and share information with my 
> class. 

Karen, I will forward your request to my modeling mailing list. If there
are any modelers local to you that are willing to come visit your class
they will contact you by e-mail.

> Are there kits available for this age group that I could assign for a 
> project?  

I do not know of any snap-together kits for World War I aeroplanes. For
children of that age I do not reccomend glue together models unless they
have a parent who is interested in modeling to help them through the
process. World War I models tend to be more complicated than other 
aeorplanes because of the multiple wings and wired rigging.

By the way, the San Diego Aeorspace Muesum has a great website, including
a section on World War I, and would be an excellent field trip oppertunity
for your class.

> I will have the kids check out you web site - What a great resource!!
Keep 
> up the great job!   
> Karen Lyon
> Lyonden200@aol.com

Thanks, I hope someone local to you is available.

-Allan

P.S. List, please contact Karen directly via e-mail if you are interested

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University of New Hampshire
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