WWI Digest 2948

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) RE: Sopwith Cook up
	by "Tomasz Gronczewski" <gronczewski@interia.pl>
  2) Re: MAG Dr.I (?)
	by Scottfking@aol.com
  3) BZZZT! Time's up
	by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" <KZELNIC@entergy.com>
  4) Getting Booted (was: Back Again) PLEASE READ!
	by Allan Wright <aew>
  5) RE: 1:48 Salmson 2A2/Wings 48 Vac
	by Brent Theobald <btheobal@sta.samsung.com>
  6) RE: Getting Booted (was: Back Again) PLEASE READ!
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
  7) Re: Getting Booted (was: Back Again) PLEASE READ!
	by Allan Wright <aew>
  8) New images
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
  9) vacs
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 10) Re: BZZZT! Time's up
	by "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
 11) Re: LSM Sopwiths was: Lone Star Macchi M-5 quick review
	by "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
 12) Macchi M7
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 13) Re: vacs
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
 14) My Sopwith Cookup project
	by "Brian Nicklas" <Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu>
 15) Vac Wings was LSM Sopwiths was: Lone Star Macchi M-5 quick review
	by Brent Theobald <btheobal@sta.samsung.com>
 16) Re: LSM, emphasis on Felixstowe
	by "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
 17) Re: vac wings
	by "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
 18) Re: Lone Star Macchi M-5 quick review
	by fedders <pfed@saladin.wustl.edu>
 19) RE: vac wings
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 20) Re: vac wings
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
 21) RE: vac wings
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 22) the house of the Richthofen family
	by "Gaston Graf" <ggraf@vo.lu>
 23) RE: vac wings
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
 24) RE: the house of the Richthofen family
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 25) RE: 1:48 Salmson 2A2/Wings 48 Vac
	by Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
 26) Re: Vac Wings was LSM Sopwiths was: Lone Star Macchi M-5 quick review
	by Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
 27) Re: vac wings
	by "Dale Sebring" <alleluja@ida.net>
 28) RE: 1:48 Salmson 2A2/Wings 48 Vac
	by Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
 29) Re: My Sopwith Cookup project
	by Mark Vaughan-Jackson <mvj@thetelegram.com>
 30) Re: Shane and Lorna
	by Shane & Lorna Jenkins <sljenkins@tac.com.au>

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:13:59 +0100
From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" <gronczewski@interia.pl>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Sopwith Cook up
Message-ID: <NDBBIELFOLLOBGEOAOAAMEMCCOAA.gronczewski@interia.pl>

Hi All,

Count me in but I haven't decided about the subject yet. Little's Pup, or
Dallas' Tripe, or Gillett's Dolphin, or Sapozhnikov's Snipe, or... Wide
spectrum so far. I doubt if I'll be able to make more than one this time.

Tomasz



---------------------R--E--K--L--A--M--A-----------------------
Myslisz, ze jestesmy sami w Kosmosie?
Myslisz, ze jestesmy bezpieczni?
Poznaj kolor strachu: http://www.czerwona-planeta.interia.pl
W kinach od 5 stycznia! Warner Bros. i INTERIA.PL zapraszaja...

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:45:33 EST
From: Scottfking@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: MAG Dr.I (?)
Message-ID: <5b.101d7b19.278729fd@aol.com>

Tomasz,

Probably only two such aircraft were assembled by MAG, both protoypes 
designed by Fokker  and shipped to MAG for erection and testing.  They were 
Fokker V4 (90.02) and V7 (90.03).  90.03 at least was based on the DrI  
(identical) except it had a revised cowling  to fit a 150hp Steyr le Rhone 
and longer fuselage by 55cm. 

90.02 looked like the DrI but the book implies it was a different machine 
altogether, having started out in the design stage as a biplane. 

Another triplane (90.01) was built, powered by a 185 hp Daimler (MAG).   
Maybe based on the Fokker V6 triplane?     

>From AH Army Aircraft of WWI

HTH
Skippy

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:08:16 -0600 
From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" <KZELNIC@entergy.com>
To: "'WWI Modeling Digest'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: BZZZT! Time's up
Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A249078012ABABC@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com>

> "Cough, cough."
> "Doctor, give him something for his cough."
> "All right, here's a quarter."
> "That's not much."
> "It's not much of a cough."

Sorry, no one got it right.  I guess I'm the only listee who's memorized
Firesign Theater's "How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not
Anywhere at All?"

Now as penance for this ot post, I plan on building the 1/72 Academy Camel.
I haven't decided on the markings yet.  Or as Cam wanted it listed,

Ken Zelnick, 1/72, Academy, Camel, Undecided

Semper Dicta Ira,

Ken Zelnick

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:53:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Getting Booted (was: Back Again) PLEASE READ!
Message-ID: <200101051453.JAA29329@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

> Well, it looks like I was kicked off the list for the past 24 hours.  Back
> on line now, though.

Welcome back Paul.

For those who have not (yet) been kicked off the list, let me just review
why it happens.

When the mailing list sends a mail message and it bounces back to the list
it marks the recipient as 'funky'. After 3 posts in a row that bounce, the
'funky' account is removed. The reason it does this is to prevent all the
bounced mail from filling up my system's hard drive, which it would eventually
do if it never removed users that bounce mail.

Mail can bounce back to the listserver for many reasons:

   - Mail quota exceeded, mailbox full
   - ISP went down, had power failure, etc
   - Internet problems in route between UNH and your ISP
   - Your ISP being on the Realtime Blackhole list for spamming
   - warpholes in the space/time continum (this seems to account for the 
     majority of bounces as far as I can tell)

If you think you have been 'nerfed' by the list, send a message to:
wwi-request@pease1.sr.unh.edu with the following in the BODY of the mail
message:

review wwi
end

The listserver SHOULD mail you back a roll-call of all the members of the list
within a minute or two. If it doesn't, check with your ISP to see if something
is wrong there. If all else fails, drop me an e-mail, maybe the listserver is
down.

If you receive the listing and you are not on the list, simply re-subscribe.
If you are on the list and not receiving e-mail (happens very rarely) drop
me a note to remove you and then re-subscribe.

In all cases, the system is deleting you automaticly, and it is not a result
of you being deleted for any prejudicial reasons. If I delete someone from
the list (hasn't happened yet and I hope it never does) they will KNOW I
did it and why as I will notify them of it personally.

Sorry you got booted Paul, again welcome back,
Allan Wright - List Administrator

===============================================================================
Allan Wright Jr.            |      "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny
University of New Hampshire +--------------------------------------------------
Research Computing Center   | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu 
Internet: aew@unh.edu       | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu
===============================================================================

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:58:07 -0600 
From: Brent Theobald <btheobal@sta.samsung.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: 1:48 Salmson 2A2/Wings 48 Vac
Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79EBED@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com>

Hey Todd,

How is the radiator in the cowling handled? I am not real happy with the one
cast in my Czech MAster resin kit. I have considered cutting it out and
replacing with brass.

Later!

Brent

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Hayes [mailto:thayes_52601@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 3:32 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: 1:48 Salmson 2A2/Wings 48 Vac


Anyone interested in the Wings vac kit can find it on
the Lone Star Models website under "other
maufacturers".  Two are listed as "in stock" for $38
ea.  Very nice vac kit with metal parts and one
gorgeous decal sheet.

TH

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
http://photos.yahoo.com/

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:09:13 +0100 
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Getting Booted (was: Back Again) PLEASE READ!
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A017D0898@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

You didn't mention it as a reason Alan, but last week I had
a mail bounce, probably because I started it with "put", I
changed that to "place" and it worked the next time I sent it.
I suppose it's because unix is involved, and "put" is a reserved 
word. Or something like that. I've also noticed that hyphens
in the beginning of a line (sometimes) seem to screw it up.
/Neil



------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:23:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Getting Booted (was: Back Again) PLEASE READ!
Message-ID: <200101051523.KAA29586@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

> You didn't mention it as a reason Alan, but last week I had
> a mail bounce, probably because I started it with "put", I
> changed that to "place" and it worked the next time I sent it.
> I suppose it's because unix is involved, and "put" is a reserved 
> word. Or something like that. I've also noticed that hyphens
> in the beginning of a line (sometimes) seem to screw it up.

you are correct and a little bit incorrect.

The server runs on Unix - Correct
'put' is a reserved word - Correct

These two are unrellated though. 'put' is reserved in the list server 
software as a command (there is some rudimentry file transfer commands
to get past digests mailed to you) but not in Unix, or at least that's not
what's effecting you at this point.

Starting a message with put, get, review, set, etc. will make the server
think you mistakenly sent a server request to the list and will bounce it
back to you to prevent all the users from seeing all the subscribe, etc.
requests. 

This will not mark you 'funky', as the mail bounces back to you. In fact
this isn't even really a 'bounce' it's a server error message. You only get
marked 'funky' when you bounce mail back to the server.

FYI, and good point, I never really mentioned that to people since I didn't 
think it happened that frequently (or at all really). I guess I should add
it to the FAQ. The server will also reject messages if they are identical
copies of a message sent previously, so if you want to re-send a message, you
have to change at least 1 char of it. I guess this is a built-in anti-spamming
feature.

-Al
===============================================================================
Allan Wright Jr.            |      "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny
University of New Hampshire +--------------------------------------------------
Research Computing Center   | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu 
Internet: aew@unh.edu       | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu
===============================================================================

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 09:39:21 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: New images
Message-ID: <200101051539.HAA04274@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

I just uploaded some images of Michael Kendix's well done Toko
Strutter.  Excellent job as usual, Michael!!


Matt Bittner
WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-)



------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:37:41 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: vacs
Message-ID: <013801c0772d$70eeb660$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Hi!
I'm very glad with my modest collection of vac kits, and I've been
experimenting with them lately (far from completing one, but they don't look
as hard as before).
I've sanded the fuselage halves OK, right to the marked line  and they fit.
But the wings, even when sanded right to razor sharp TE, still have certain
concavity due to the underwing camber and I can see flat areas under the
wingtips. How can I do to correct this without ruining the wing?
D.
testing the "mobile modelling equipment" before vacations!


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:42:35 -0600
From: "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: BZZZT! Time's up
Message-ID: <002e01c0772e$53944200$7689aec7@com>



> > "Cough, cough."
> > "Doctor, give him something for his cough."
> > "All right, here's a quarter."
> > "That's not much."
> > "It's not much of a cough."
>
> Sorry, no one got it right.  I guess I'm the only listee who's memorized
> Firesign Theater's "How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not
> Anywhere at All?"
>

Kenny me boy,

    Good to see that someone else was paying attention.
'In times of dexterity such as this, my wee native compendium, Mo-Ham-Eet,
used to pray to the Divinitides - his brown, froggy body a-quiver at my
loins....


DB

...best WC Fields I ever heard...  Sorry for ot - it's the New Year


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:38:16 -0600
From: "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: LSM Sopwiths was: Lone Star Macchi M-5 quick review
Message-ID: <002d01c0772e$52a01e00$7689aec7@com>



> Lance Krieg napisał(a):
>
> > Go direct to the website, and order from there... it may take a while,
but it'll show up eventually:
> >
> > www.lonestarmodels.com
> >
> Hi,
> I checked their catalogu and there are two Sopwiths 1/48 Baby and Snipe.
> There are also some interesting birds like Fe-8, DH-5, Pfalz E.I and
> Fokker E.IV. Any opinions about them? AFAIR there was review of DH-5 in
> IM
>

Dunno, but e-mail them first to make sure that they have them!  They are OUT
of the Wings48 Salmsons and apparently erroneously put them on the site.

                                                                        DB


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:48:29 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Macchi M7
Message-ID: <014601c0772e$f30b9f40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

I forgot to mention it...
I got a Libramodels Macchi M7, from Ebay.
 Outstanding surface detail by the famous Joe Chubbock, but is it accurate?
the provided Aeroclub metal items aren't too impressive. The decals are the
thickest globs I've seen on my life (the cocarde have relief!) and are best
replaced by aftermarket decals, altough the colours seems OK, for a
change.The complex strut arrangement seems quite daunting.
Anyone knows references on this type? I know that a Datafile on the M.5 is
due for later this year, but how close to the M.7 is this design?
D.


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 15:58:29 
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: vacs
Message-ID: <F14216xsoIIzQtO9vXL0000b031@hotmail.com>

Diego F. writes...

>I'm very glad with my modest collection of vac kits, and I've been
>experimenting with them lately (far from completing one, but they >don't 
>look as hard as before).
>I've sanded the fuselage halves OK, right to the marked line  and >they 
>fit. But the wings, even when sanded right to razor sharp TE, >still have 
>certain concavity due to the underwing camber and I can >see flat areas 
>under the wingtips. How can I do to correct this >without ruining the wing?

I've had this problem and I don't think there's much I could do.  The 
flattened trailing edge was the result of my trying to get it really thin 
and holding the vac part at too flat an angle to the sandpaper that was 
taped to the table.  Because mine was on the undersurface, I just thought - 
"Try not to lose sleep about it" and I tried not to do it on the next one!  
I don't know that much can be done because what's happened was that I had 
sanded too much away and replenishing it was beyond my limited patience and 
ability.

Michael

_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:09:51 -0500
From: "Brian Nicklas" <Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: My Sopwith Cookup project
Message-ID: <OF0E6F889A.0A875F9F-ON852569CB.00587592@si.edu>

Brian Nicklas, 1/72 Sopwith 2F.1 Camel, Stuart Culley N6812

(If I get REALLY motivated, I'll build my Rosemont vac Lighter to rest it
upon!)




------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:25:06 -0600 
From: Brent Theobald <btheobal@sta.samsung.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Vac Wings was LSM Sopwiths was: Lone Star Macchi M-5 quick review
Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79EBEE@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com>

Howdy!

I had a talked with Uncle Tom over at the old Aviation Usk a while back. In
the course our conversation he mentioned that Vac Wings kits were easy to
acquire. A couple days I think he said.

Perhaps the Av-Usk Nebraska could do the same?

Later!

Brent

-----Original Message-----
From: DAVID BURKE [mailto:dora9@sprynet.com]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:50 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: LSM Sopwiths was: Lone Star Macchi M-5 quick review




> Lance Krieg napisał(a):
>
> > Go direct to the website, and order from there... it may take a while,
but it'll show up eventually:
> >
> > www.lonestarmodels.com
> >
> Hi,
> I checked their catalogu and there are two Sopwiths 1/48 Baby and Snipe.
> There are also some interesting birds like Fe-8, DH-5, Pfalz E.I and
> Fokker E.IV. Any opinions about them? AFAIR there was review of DH-5 in
> IM
>

Dunno, but e-mail them first to make sure that they have them!  They are OUT
of the Wings48 Salmsons and apparently erroneously put them on the site.

                                                                        DB

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 10:35:24 -0600
From: "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: LSM, emphasis on Felixstowe
Message-ID: <sa55a38f.051@mail1-fs.amerus.com>

Andy catalogs the Lone Star kits, and wonders about:

"the DH5, The Sablatnig, The Curtiss N9N, The Hansa Brandenburg W20..." 

I have the Curtiss, which I recall as a pretty standard vac with some resin, white metal, and some PE, but I haven't looked at it closely in some time... I can provide more info if you want.

The DH5, on the other hand, is a resin kit, a little on the rough side, but definitely buildable.

"Did any one out there ever buy LSM's Felixstowe flying boat in 1/48th?"

Peter Fedders built one, and it's on the site.  I am currently building mine, a sort of magnum opus that may never end;  I recently completed the interior and put the hull together, a hundred or more hours into the project.

This model is mostly vac, with a couple of resin pieces, a very modest amount of PE, and a decent selection of white metal.  The propellers and RR Eagle engines are very nicely handled.

The kit suffers from being based on an old set of plans, and is considerably too narrow through the hull of the boat, a very major fix that I still haven't completely solved.  The empennage is too small all around and needs to be replaced. 

On the other hand, there are elements of the kit that are demonstrably more correct than the Ian Stair plans in the latest datafile.

The kit is most acceptable, if a little daunting.

Lance


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 10:42:47 -0600
From: "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: vac wings
Message-ID: <sa55a540.087@mail1-fs.amerus.com>

Diego asks:

"How can I do to correct this without ruining the wing?"

I'm not sure I understood the question, and need clarification... 

Are you using the single or two-piece method for your dink-scale wings?  

A corollary question for anyone who has used a single piece for a vac wing... how do you keep it from warping, curling or otherwise moving on it's own?

Lance


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:44:23 -0600 (CST)
From: fedders <pfed@saladin.wustl.edu>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Lone Star Macchi M-5 quick review
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.1010105104339.17780A-100000@saladin.wustl.edu>


Mike West (Lone Star) did re-release the Junkers J1 - I bought one in 
Dallas in July.  

peter



------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:48:41 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: vac wings
Message-ID: <018e01c07737$5c6e1a00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Lance:
Single surfaced wings. I cut the wing, sand all styrene up to the line where
the backing sheet and the "piece" meet, the trailing edges are razor sharp
and the leading edge can be rounded a bit, but under the wingtips, theres
small "flat" areas and inside the wing some concavity because the wings are
modele with a slight camber. That flat area under the wingtips, how do I do
to get rid of it?
The wings are stable, maybe because of the aformentioned molded camber. In
fact, I tought that the cut-up sanded pieces would be quite flimsy, but, not
at all, the styrene material is thick enough to give a reasonable rigidity.
D.

----- Original Message -----
From: Lance Krieg <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: vac wings


> Diego asks:
>
> "How can I do to correct this without ruining the wing?"
>
> I'm not sure I understood the question, and need clarification...
>
> Are you using the single or two-piece method for your dink-scale wings?
>
> A corollary question for anyone who has used a single piece for a vac
wing... how do you keep it from warping, curling or otherwise moving on it's
own?
>
> Lance
>


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 16:53:11 
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: vac wings
Message-ID: <F19eKzGZuNY1SWoBDys0000ed88@hotmail.com>

Lance asks...

>I'm not sure I understood the question, and need clarification...
>
>Are you using the single or two-piece method for your dink-scale >wings?
>
>A corollary question for anyone who has used a single piece for a vac 
> >wing... how do you keep it from warping, curling or otherwise moving >on 
>it's own?

All the vacs I've done are single piece wings.

As I tried to describe earlier, the problem is trying to thin the trailing 
edge of the wings.  To do that, you must hold the wings underside down, at 
an angle.  If you hold it perpendicular, you'll just get an edge as thick as 
the rest of the wing.  If the angle is too flat, you'll have "Too much" flat 
trailing edge, so you need to keep the angle as steep as possible and go 
carefully.  Once you messed it up, I know of no fix.

I've built four vacs and not had any warping or curling problems.  As for 
moving on it own - none of my kit parts have ever done this and if they did, 
I'd need to check my medication:).  If you mean the sort of sliding around 
business when you try to sand it, then what I do is actually hold the vac 
part and push/pull on the sand paper taped to the desk/plexiglass sheet.

Michael
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:55:27 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: vac wings
Message-ID: <01a401c07738$4dce1800$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Michael dixit:
> Once you messed it up, I know of no fix.

Yikes :-(
D.


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 18:03:25 +0100
From: "Gaston Graf" <ggraf@vo.lu>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: the house of the Richthofen family
Message-ID: <NEEILCFEPCBGPDBHJFKHOEILCDAA.ggraf@vo.lu>

Friends,

a frequent visitor of my website - Mario Barneche from Argentina - now send
me a couple of recent pictures of the house of the Richthofen family. Mario
promised to send more info later so I am really curious to learn more. I
wanted to ask our friends in Poland - Withold and Tomaz - if they have any
particular info on that house. I will post the pics at my website as soon as
possible.

happy modeling to all who have the time for it ;o)

 Gaston Graf
(ggraf@vo.lu)
Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at:
http://www.jastaboelcke.de


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 17:05:20 
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: RE: vac wings
Message-ID: <F26iGM16sig9cgPfDX00000f065@hotmail.com>

>From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>

>Michael dixit:
> > Once you messed it up, I know of no fix.
>
>Yikes :-(

Yes, a slightly pessimistic view, though taken out of context somewhat:).  
It is not my general view, only for that problem.  I did it and I just left 
it as it was rather than possibly worsen the outcome.  It wasn't too 
noticeable.

Michael
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:05:19 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: the house of the Richthofen family
Message-ID: <01c301c07739$aeb03a80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Gaston
>From Argentina???????? Would you mind sending me Mario's Email?
D.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gaston Graf <ggraf@vo.lu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 2:08 PM
Subject: the house of the Richthofen family


> Friends,
>
> a frequent visitor of my website - Mario Barneche from Argentina - now
send
> me a couple of recent pictures of the house of the Richthofen family.
Mario
> promised to send more info later so I am really curious to learn more. I
> wanted to ask our friends in Poland - Withold and Tomaz - if they have any
> particular info on that house. I will post the pics at my website as soon
as
> possible.
>
> happy modeling to all who have the time for it ;o)
>
>  Gaston Graf
> (ggraf@vo.lu)
> Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at:
> http://www.jastaboelcke.de
>


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:10:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: RE: 1:48 Salmson 2A2/Wings 48 Vac
Message-ID: <20010105171012.77537.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com>

Brent,

The Wings kit uses a metal part to represent the
cooling fan.  I think it would also look better in
brass or plastic sheet.  I have the Czech Master/Artur
kit too and I think the Vac Wings kit is better.  Very
close to the quality of a Sierra Scale kit.  And the
decals that come with the kit are outstanding!

Todd

--- Brent Theobald <btheobal@sta.samsung.com> wrote:
> Hey Todd,
> 
> How is the radiator in the cowling handled? I am not
> real happy with the one
> cast in my Czech MAster resin kit. I have considered
> cutting it out and
> replacing with brass.
> 
> Later!
> 
> Brent
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Hayes [mailto:thayes_52601@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 3:32 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: 1:48 Salmson 2A2/Wings 48 Vac
> 
> 
> Anyone interested in the Wings vac kit can find it
> on
> the Lone Star Models website under "other
> maufacturers".  Two are listed as "in stock" for $38
> ea.  Very nice vac kit with metal parts and one
> gorgeous decal sheet.
> 
> TH
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> http://photos.yahoo.com/


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
http://photos.yahoo.com/

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:11:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Vac Wings was LSM Sopwiths was: Lone Star Macchi M-5 quick review
Message-ID: <20010105171142.57460.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com>

But yet it took him about two months to mine to me.

--- Brent Theobald <btheobal@sta.samsung.com> wrote:
> Howdy!
> 
> I had a talked with Uncle Tom over at the old
> Aviation Usk a while back. In
> the course our conversation he mentioned that Vac
> Wings kits were easy to
> acquire. A couple days I think he said.
> 
> Perhaps the Av-Usk Nebraska could do the same?
> 
> Later!
> 
> Brent
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DAVID BURKE [mailto:dora9@sprynet.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:50 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: LSM Sopwiths was: Lone Star Macchi M-5
> quick review
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Lance Krieg napisał(a):
> >
> > > Go direct to the website, and order from
> there... it may take a while,
> but it'll show up eventually:
> > >
> > > www.lonestarmodels.com
> > >
> > Hi,
> > I checked their catalogu and there are two
> Sopwiths 1/48 Baby and Snipe.
> > There are also some interesting birds like Fe-8,
> DH-5, Pfalz E.I and
> > Fokker E.IV. Any opinions about them? AFAIR there
> was review of DH-5 in
> > IM
> >
> 
> Dunno, but e-mail them first to make sure that they
> have them!  They are OUT
> of the Wings48 Salmsons and apparently erroneously
> put them on the site.
> 
>                                                     
>                    DB


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
http://photos.yahoo.com/

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:09:59 -0700
From: "Dale Sebring" <alleluja@ida.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: vac wings
Message-ID: <002801c0773a$56952f80$71a58dd0@main>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: vac wings


> Michael dixit:
> > Once you messed it up, I know of no fix.
> 
> Yikes :-(
> D.


Hi D, have you receiced my emails-decals on the way?
Dale


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:16:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: RE: 1:48 Salmson 2A2/Wings 48 Vac
Message-ID: <20010105171617.91967.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com>

Brent,

Engines and Things does a Salmson Canton-Unne engine
suitable for the 2A2 but I've heard that they vary in
quality from very good to very poor.

Todd

--- Brent Theobald <btheobal@sta.samsung.com> wrote:
> Hey Todd,
> 
> How is the radiator in the cowling handled? I am not
> real happy with the one
> cast in my Czech MAster resin kit. I have considered
> cutting it out and
> replacing with brass.
> 
> Later!
> 
> Brent
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Hayes [mailto:thayes_52601@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 3:32 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: 1:48 Salmson 2A2/Wings 48 Vac
> 
> 
> Anyone interested in the Wings vac kit can find it
> on
> the Lone Star Models website under "other
> maufacturers".  Two are listed as "in stock" for $38
> ea.  Very nice vac kit with metal parts and one
> gorgeous decal sheet.
> 
> TH
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> http://photos.yahoo.com/


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
http://photos.yahoo.com/

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:08:09 -0400
From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson <mvj@thetelegram.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: My Sopwith Cookup project
Message-ID: <l03130303b67b84c12e60@[192.168.233.66]>

Mark Vaughan-Jackson. 1/48, Smer Triplane, undecided.

That is after I finish the ^$(^*#! Albatros and the museum build ;-(

MVJ



------------------------------

Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 04:44:14 -0800
From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins <sljenkins@tac.com.au>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Shane and Lorna
Message-ID: <3A57131E.FCF6C930@tac.com.au>

Shane Weier wrote:
> 
> E
> 
> > Are you sure they're still down? I spoke to StY on AIM last night.
> 
> They were up. Just ignoring me.
> 
> I should be used to that by now :-(

 True, afterall you have two daughters who do the same thing to you ;-)

 Shane

------------------------------

End of WWI Digest 2948
**********************