WWI Digest 2944 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Sniping by "cameron rile" 2) Re: Another OT Laskodi model at Modeling Madness by Rob & Sherry 3) Re: Sopwith Cook up by KarrArt@aol.com 4) Re: Sopwith Cook up by "cameron rile" 5) RE: Cookup pledges by "Ray Boorman" 6) RE: Sopwith Cook up by "Ray Boorman" 7) RE: Sopwith Cook up by "Ray Boorman" 8) Re: Sopwith Kits by "Len Smith" 9) Re: Cookup pledges by David Fleming 10) camel kits by "dfernet0" 11) RE: Another OT Laskodi model at Modeling Madness by "dfernet0" 12) RE: Airbrush by Crawford Neil 13) Air-Britain Publications by "Sandy Adam" 14) Re: Another OT Laskodi model at Modeling Madness by Witold Kozakiewicz 15) FriedrichFiles Vol XXV - Great War´s ships, aicraft and airships by FriedKappes@netscape.net 16) Thinning wings, AMS, and resin by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" 17) RE: Thinning wings, AMS, and resin by "dfernet0" 18) RE: PE parts set update by Crawford Neil 19) help by "Dale Sebring" 20) Champions by "Harris, Mack" 21) British destroyers of 1896 by Friedrich Kappes 22) Re: help by "Matt Bittner" 23) New images up by "Matt Bittner" 24) OT Magazine Article by David Fleming 25) Re: help by "Dale Sebring" 26) RE: New images up by "dfernet0" 27) RE: Airbrush by Rob & Sherry 28) Re: Champions by "Tom Solinski" 29) Re: Re: Cookup pledges by shingend@ix.netcom.com 30) Cramer Craft 1/72 Gotha GV and Friedrichschafen G-III by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 31) RE: Cramer Craft 1/72 Gotha GV and Friedrichschafen G-III by Brent Theobald ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:26:17 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sniping Message-ID: <83C6C0A57D1E4D115AD50005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com> Shane, >Seen in plan view the cockpit >is a "D" shape and from side >view the front sides of the >cockpit are symetrical, vertical >and commence at the leading edge >of the padding level with the trailing >edge of the rear cabane strut. > ok if I am understanding you correctly, the BM kit has the area directly infront of the pilot and housing the guns as; /---\ //---\\ | | | | >I'm building a 4AFC aircraft, all of >which (or all of those where I can >make it out) have the usual production >layout where the port forward edge >of the cockpit cutout *is* vertical >but further forward (level with the LE >of the rear cabane) and the >starboard edge is curved so that the >top finishes about half way between >the position of the port edge and the >link ejection chutes - in other words >they are asymetrical. which is; /----\ -/ -\ | \ Is that what you mean? If that is the case, the CSM kit follows the pic above. >What I *don't* know is whether the cutout >is parallel sided, or narrows towards the >front. Most of the photos don't show this >and the rest are inconclusive. I *think* >that Erics kit has the edges parallel - >I've gone that way as well, but I'd LOVE >some photographic evidence before the area >is irrevocably out of reach beneath the >top wing The CSM kit has them parallel. I dont have any pics that show that detail for certain either, there is the one pic of the Snipe cockpit in Schaedels "Men and Machines of the AFC" on pg 54 but it falls tantalising short. Another thing with 4 AFC Snipes, Gordon Branch found an intelligence report on the Snipe where the 4 AFC armourers got sick of having to take off side engine panel to fit in new ammo. They cut a panel over the area where the ammunition chutes are inserted. Apparently the modification became standard for Snipes. Again pictures are shy, but he speculated that the cut out panel on pic 65 in the Snipe Datafile might be the change. Again without definate pics of it, it is just speculation. cam AFC - http://members.xoom.com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 00:26:09 -0500 From: Rob & Sherry To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Another OT Laskodi model at Modeling Madness Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010104002609.00837dd0@pop-server.tampabay.rr.com> Hey E. You call crappy?!?!?! You oughta see my attempt at the Roden Dr.1! Your Spad is gorgeous! Only can I wish to someday complete something like that! Rob At 12:06 AM 1/4/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > >Rob & Sherry wrote: > >> O.K.....That is beautiful!!! SOOOOOOOOOO...... now I have request!! can >> anyone show me some reaaaaaalllly bad builds so I can think my lame attempt >> at building an OT kit looks like it's worth completing??????? > >I thnk I have a crappy looking Spad in the model gallery. >E. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:28:00 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwith Cook up Message-ID: <4d.5aed815.278563e0@aol.com> In a message dated 1/3/01 9:00:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << > >Sopwith Aviation Company at Kingston-on-Thames > >Thomas Octave Murdoch Sopwith was born in 1988. > Sadly that makes him off topic Oddly enough, even here in the land of illiteracy and chronic ignorance, he got a half page obit with two pictures when he died. I still have it 'somewhere'. E. >> His 100th birthday got about two minutes on the local evening news, and a year later, his death got almost as much.....I've got the reports on tape....somewhere around here....dagummit. RK (fighting the most hellacious flu I've had in decades) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:45:27 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwith Cook up Message-ID: <19D6C0A57D1E4D115AD50005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com> >>Sopwith Aviation Company at Kingston-on-Thames >>Thomas Octave Murdoch Sopwith was born in 1988. > >Sadly that makes him off topic lol fixed. As well as the new pledges added. I also added Brad Gossen's 'Pulp Fiction' albatros to the albatros cook-up. If anyone wants to write text for the parts that are missing ( the section with ................'s ) or rewrite my lame attempts at generating content, please do. Also if any wants to write anything about a particulr type of Sopwith please do, like what Dave Fleming did for the G numbered aircraft for the alb cook-up. Always room for content. Alb/Sop cookup http://members.nbci.com/otprojects/ cam AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:52:01 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: Cookup pledges Message-ID: I have a Blue Rider Comic camel fuselage all cut out and Airfix Camel wings with no ribs. I also have a down to the skin manicure from all the wing rubbing, so I guess I'm in for a Comic Camel does that count as a Camel. Any suggestions as to what I can do with the Airfix Fuselage parts left over??? Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Steven M.Perry > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 9:09 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Cookup pledges > > > Sitting on the bench now is an Eduard Sopwith Schnider kit and a Sopwith > Tabloid Mini DF. > > Put me down for the conversion, but since I haven't finished my Albatros > yet, maybe you better put me down on the good intentions page rather than > the pledge page ;-) > sp > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:52:04 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: Sopwith Cook up Message-ID: Robert, is there a way to convert them to MP3, it could be something to put on the Sopwith site. Just a suggestion.......... > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > KarrArt@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 9:33 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Sopwith Cook up > > > In a message dated 1/3/01 9:00:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, > ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: > > << > >Sopwith Aviation Company at Kingston-on-Thames > > >Thomas Octave Murdoch Sopwith was born in 1988. > > Sadly that makes him off topic > > Oddly enough, even here in the land of illiteracy and chronic ignorance, > he got a half page obit with two pictures when he died. I still have it > 'somewhere'. > E. >> > > His 100th birthday got about two minutes on the local evening > news, and a > year later, his death got almost as much.....I've got the reports on > tape....somewhere around here....dagummit. > RK (fighting the most hellacious flu I've had in decades) > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:15:30 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: Sopwith Cook up Message-ID: Another idea for the cookup site might be some short bios on Hawker, Sopwith, Sigrist, Herbert Smith. The reason for the Sopwith company to be liquidated and H G Hawker engineering to start up six weeks later. (As in Government excess profit taxes) Sigrist for example would be a great bio, virtually no schooling, great empirical engineer and becomes a director of both Sopwith and Hawkers. Appease the Historians in us all. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 23:20:46 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Sopwith Kits Message-ID: <000201c07622$fe1616c0$e7857ed4@mesh> David, The other A/c with the Swallow was a Dove. Double sided wings in both, and double sided tailplane for Dove. Basic, very very basic. Regards Len lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Fleming" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 3:09 PM Subject: Re: Sopwith Kits > One I don't think anybody has mentioned yet, > > Sopwith Scheneider 1/72 Milresin (Milslides 'own brand', reboxed original > from SIGN in what was Czechoslovakia). Very nice resin, probably one of the > best 1/72 kits of an OT subject I've seen, the wings are amazing. > > I just don't have the heart to actually build it (YET !!) > > Also, I think that Airframe's Swallow conversion had parts for a Scooter as > well. > > Dave > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 08:59:06 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cookup pledges Message-ID: <3A543B59.3BCE2959@dial.pipex.com> Ray Boorman wrote: > I have a Blue Rider Comic camel fuselage all cut out and Airfix Camel wings > with no ribs. I also have a down to the skin manicure from all the wing > rubbing, so I guess I'm in for a Comic Camel does that count as a Camel. Any > suggestions as to what I can do with the Airfix Fuselage parts left over??? > Scratchbuild a wing, tailplane & struttery & build a Swallow !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 06:55:52 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: camel kits Message-ID: <009201c07634$861872a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Well well well! Seems like this project is taking form. Anyone would mind to write a small article describing the corrections needed for the 1/72 Revell and Esci and Airfix Camels? As I heard frequently, none of these models are entirely correct and all need serious reworking to make an accurate miniature of the Camel (IIRC one of them is the navy version too). I can provide scans of the parts of mint Revell and Esci kit sprues for the Cook Up site. Cam, Bob used to have an article on markings that might be pertinent for finishing the Revell or Esci kits. Is the link to that article posted on the Cook Up page? D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 06:58:46 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Another OT Laskodi model at Modeling Madness Message-ID: <00a801c07634$f064f8e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> You've done it again, Bob! Congratulations for an excellent model. I like the shade of the wood you got! D. Grrrr. I still have to finish my own Albatros! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:06:57 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Airbrush Message-ID: Just curious, how much does the turbine cost? /neil -----Original Message----- From: Rob & Sherry [mailto:rweiner@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: den 3 januari 2001 23:12 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Airbrush I just got the catalog from Dixie Art and Airbrush Supplies www.dixieart.com They have the Paasche AB Turbine listed with replacement part that was being talked about a while ago. They also have a ton of airbrushes and parts at what seems to be the best prices around. Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:13:55 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Air-Britain Publications Message-ID: <00ae01c0763f$705c7aa0$3ce8b094@sandyada> Could/would someone tell me where books by Air-Britain can be bought (in the US)? Hi Todd if nobody else has replied as yet (digest mode) go over to http://www.air-britain.co.uk/ I can heartily recommend all AB OT books - the SE5 and Camel are obligatory. The Shipboard and RNAS books are incredible bargains and the latest two - DH4/9 and Martinsyde are chock-full of info. The Tinsyde is especially welcome on several rare subjects. A worthwhile tip - if you are a member of C&CI, you get discount - don't know about any other groups OtF etc - but worth asking. HTH Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 12:40:12 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Another OT Laskodi model at Modeling Madness Message-ID: <3A54611C.84DAAD3B@bg.am.lodz.pl> Congratulations Bob. Another beautiful Albatros, great woodwork, but have you all noticed rudder and shades of internal structure. I must try something like that. Was it drybrushed? -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jan 2001 12:03:45 GMT From: FriedKappes@netscape.net To: Subject: FriedrichFiles Vol XXV - Great War´s ships, aicraft and airships Message-ID: <20010104120348.5925.qmail@cacst118.netaddress.usa.net> Hi fellows! Could somebody supply me with some of these information? Please let me know, if you have facts, sources or other help for me. Do you need background info on certain WW1 craft? I own some books on that (Conway, Gröner,...). Maybe there´s something for you on my homepage. Almirante Lynch (Chilean destroyer ~1913) date of commission, line drawing Amiens (French sloop 1919) line drawing Chiang Hsi (Chinese rivergunboat ~1911) date of commission CMB 40ft and 70ft (Brit. MTBs of WWI) line drawings Cordoba and La Plata (Argentinian destroyer 1912) line drawing Lens III (German harbour launch 1910) speed Marne (French sloop WWI) when was her armement altered? Oppossum, Sunfish, Ranger (Brit. destroyers 1896) line drawing T 1 (German minelayer ~1909, deployed to Chinese colony) date of commission Ansaldo SVAI (Idrovolante): entry into service/date of first delivery/... Borel Typ Bo 11 monoplane: line drawing Levy-Lepen R: entry into service/date of first delivery/... (French flying boat) Short 38: line drawing - 74: entry into service/date of first delivery/..., line drawing, armament - 135: entry into service/date of first delivery/..., line drawing, armament - 166: entry into service/date of first delivery/..., line drawing Sopwith 807: entry into service/date of first delivery/..., line drawing, armament Vought VE-7S: entry into service/date of first delivery/... North Sea (NS-) Class: armament Parseval PL 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 11, 13, 19: armament, line drawings Zeppelin LZ 2, 3, 4, 5: line drawings Thank you very much in advance Friedrich The FriedrichFiles http://sites.netscape.net/friedkappes Lots of nice links, pictures (photos, drawings, ...), book reviews, literature aids, a dictionary,... ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 06:16:39 -0600 From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" To: "'WWI Modeling Digest'" Subject: Thinning wings, AMS, and resin Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A249078012ABAAC@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com> Neil wrote: Not exactly a beginners question Ken, more like a serious AMS symptom! AMS???!!! NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! "Cough, cough." "Doctor, give him something for his cough." "All right, here's a quarter." "That's not much." "It's not much of a cough." The first person to identify this exchange gets to make an ot post without having to do penance. ;) Mandatory OT content: TC wrote: I think people may want to consider alternatives to the all-resin landing gear and struts if you plan on having it around for awhile. Why? Is resin weaker, more brittle, or subject to warping under stress? I've never worked with resin before. TIA, Ken Zelnick Who is somewhat warped from being under stress. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:24:20 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Thinning wings, AMS, and resin Message-ID: <014b01c07649$43d38640$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > "Cough, cough." > "Doctor, give him something for his cough." > "All right, here's a quarter." > "That's not much." > "It's not much of a cough." "The Sunshine Boys"? > Mandatory OT content: > TC wrote: I think people may want to consider alternatives to the all-resin > landing gear and struts if you plan on having it around for awhile. Resin is a somewhat weak material to support the usually heavy resin models. Best thing to do is to replace UC legs with Strutz brass lenghts, much sturdier and easy to work. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:22:01 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: PE parts set update Message-ID: I'm sorry but I don't think I'm up to drawing the fishplates, I'd have to do it by hand, and I think it would be easier on a computer. I would be happy to send a packet of photo-copies to anyone brave enough to have a go. There are some good examples in Harry Woodmans book, and I'm sure I could find plenty more examples. /Neil Steve wrote: >Brent's idea about the mesh for the gunner's post is especially good in >light of the new Roden release of the Gotha. And Neil's idea about the fish >plate being designed so it could be cut and used as a kind of mix & match to >simulate several types is excellent. Come on now, some of you art majors >step up to the plate here and take on designing and drawing some of these. >We have the potential to create a very useful set of fiddly bits that I know >I will especially enjoy using because so many friends on the List will have> >had ahand in it. >Stay tuned, more as it develops >sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 06:48:50 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: help Message-ID: <001801c07655$12ae89a0$92b58dd0@main> Would someone please forward SMO's web site? TIA, Dale ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:53:29 -0600 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "'World War I'" Subject: Champions Message-ID: OU - OU - OU!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry to those in Florida. Mack Harris Nb Junkers J1 Back to lurk mode ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jan 01 14:56:31 MET From: Friedrich Kappes To: , , Subject: British destroyers of 1896 Message-ID: <20010104135631.25970.qmail@nwcst268.netaddress.usa.net> Who could send me line drawings of - Oppossum, Ranger or Sunfish - Salmon or Snapper - Skate, Starfish, or Sturgeon? Friedrich The FriedrichFiles http://sites.netscape.net/friedkappes Lots of nice links, pictures (photos, drawings, ...), book reviews, literature aids, a dictionary,... ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 07:57:27 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: help Message-ID: <200101041356.FAA26441@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:55:22 -0500 (EST), Dale Sebring wrote: > Would someone please forward SMO's web site? It's on the site. Bwahahahahaha... :-) Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 08:27:17 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: New images up Message-ID: <200101041427.GAA07539@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> I just uploaded some new images of models by Bill Arnold. Wonderful work, Bill!! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 14:32:33 +0000 From: David Fleming To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: OT Magazine Article Message-ID: <3A548980.AE4A3A1C@btconnect.com> This month's Issue of Aeroplane Monthly magazine has a 19 page series of articles on the Sopwith Dolphin - ideal for our latest project. Lots of nice photos, cutaway drawing & sketches. Oh, and they are looking for any photos of Dolphins in US or Polish service, if anyone knows of any. Other OT stuff includes a photo of a Macchi built HD-1 in Equador (Along with the news that the decidely ot Meteor FR9 has 5x the number of survivors most people thought), and their Internet page features Internet Modeler, Modelling Madness, The Aerodrome, Jasta Boelcke, and a site at http://pease1.sr.unh.edu as WW1 links. The latter is described as 'a good place to pose specific questions about pilots, units and aircraft to a specialist readership'. That's us folks !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:33:02 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: help Message-ID: <000b01c0765b$3f057e40$92b58dd0@main> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 7:06 AM Subject: Re: help > On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:55:22 -0500 (EST), Dale Sebring wrote: > > > Would someone please forward SMO's web site? > > It's on the site. Bwahahahahaha... :-) Thanks Matt, I should have looked first....sorry :-0 Regards, Dale ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:48:40 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: New images up Message-ID: <01fa01c0765d$6e0a9fc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Indeed! That Roland sure looks great! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: New images up > I just uploaded some new images of models by Bill Arnold. Wonderful > work, Bill!! > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 11:03:24 -0500 From: Rob & Sherry To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Airbrush Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010104110324.00832340@pop-server.tampabay.rr.com> Hi Neil, They list the Turbo for $189.00 w/free shipping. It comes in either a left or right hand version. Their catalog is also free. Rob At 06:12 AM 1/4/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Just curious, how much does the turbine cost? >/neil >-----Original Message----- >From: Rob & Sherry [mailto:rweiner@tampabay.rr.com] >Sent: den 3 januari 2001 23:12 >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Airbrush > > >I just got the catalog from Dixie Art and Airbrush Supplies >www.dixieart.com > They have the Paasche AB Turbine listed with replacement part that was >being talked about a while ago. They also have a ton of airbrushes and >parts at what seems to be the best prices around. >Rob > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:03:14 -0600 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Champions Message-ID: <011401c07667$d86ff9a0$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> For the non Stateside members; We in OKLAHOMA are VERY proud of our University of Oklahoma Sooner football team (U.S. not soccer) having won the Orange bowl after a 12-0 season. This pride is a contagious virus that infects all who move to the state, even if you have no idea where the campus is. Back OT: Count me for a 1/48 camel and a surprise comic contribution Tom S OKC If you aren't making waves, you aren't making headway! ----- Original Message ----- From: Harris, Mack To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 7:59 AM Subject: Champions > OU - OU - OU!!!!!!!!!!!! > Sorry to those in Florida. > Mack Harris > Nb Junkers J1 > Back to lurk mode > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 11:20:04 -0500 From: shingend@ix.netcom.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re: Cookup pledges Message-ID: I, also, would like to contribute, but am not yet at the point where my Albatrii have the fuselages closed yet. I know which road it puts me on, but please include my good intentions, as I have and Eduard Pup and two Tripehounds sitting on the shelves already making me feel guilty. A couple of long ot excursions for gifts left me a bit drained of enthusiasm. I'm recovering, but I'm at the stage where the current builds still look like a long list of 'I gotta do this, and this, and this, and I don't have the patience right now. And that ______ kit looks interesting....' .Mark. Steve Perry wrote: > Sitting on the bench now is an Eduard Sopwith Schnider kit and a SopwithTabloid Mini DF. Put me down for the conversion, but since I haven't finished my Albatros yet, maybe you better put me down on the good intentions page rather than the pledge page ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:35:20 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Cramer Craft 1/72 Gotha GV and Friedrichschafen G-III Message-ID: Hi Folks, While "organizing" the model storage, I found this double-kit put out by Cramer many moons ago...It is a typical Cramer kit, providing the basic shapes and a set of plans. This double kit includes rough injected parts for the engines, wheels guns etc....These are probably best replaced with Roseparts, Aeroclub engines etc.... My question is has anyone built these in the past???? I have been looking for detailed sets of plans for these two. The Squadron Signal book has some info, but I really would prefer detailed plans as these kits provide only the basic shapes, everything else needs to be added. I am actually looking forward to doing these two, especially with the Roden Gothas being released. Does anyone know if Roden is planning the later Gothas and a Fried.???? The only Fried I know of is by Choroszy Modelbud, whose kits are excellent, by the way, but frankly, I am a little concerned about building an all-resin kit with such a long wingspan. They are almost certain to droop with age...Any tips or comments are appreciated. TIA. By the way, Squadron has the FMP titles listed on sale. I got "High in the Empty Blue" and "Austro-Hungarian Aces" for Christmas. Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:53:58 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Cramer Craft 1/72 Gotha GV and Friedrichschafen G-III Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79EBE5@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Hey John, I've done some thinking about that Fredrichshafen from Choroszy Modelbud too. My plan to fix the long, thin resin wing problem is to use the vac wings from the Sierra Scale kit. They are lighter and won't warp with age. Too bad the detail parts from the Choroszy Modelbud kit can't be purchased separately. I'd pay $40 for the vac kit with the resin detail bits included. I am a small minority though. :) Have a good one! Brent -----Original Message----- Hi Folks, While "organizing" the model storage, I found this double-kit put out by Cramer many moons ago...It is a typical Cramer kit, providing the basic shapes and a set of plans. This double kit includes rough injected parts for the engines, wheels guns etc....These are probably best replaced with Roseparts, Aeroclub engines etc.... My question is has anyone built these in the past???? I have been looking for detailed sets of plans for these two. The Squadron Signal book has some info, but I really would prefer detailed plans as these kits provide only the basic shapes, everything else needs to be added. I am actually looking forward to doing these two, especially with the Roden Gothas being released. Does anyone know if Roden is planning the later Gothas and a Fried.???? The only Fried I know of is by Choroszy Modelbud, whose kits are excellent, by the way, but frankly, I am a little concerned about building an all-resin kit with such a long wingspan. They are almost certain to droop with age...Any tips or comments are appreciated. TIA. By the way, Squadron has the FMP titles listed on sale. I got "High in the Empty Blue" and "Austro-Hungarian Aces" for Christmas. Regards, John ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2944 **********************