WWI Digest 2940 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: PE Parts Set by Todd Hayes 2) Christmas comes again by Steve Cox 3) Bad Seats... was PE Parts Set by Brent Theobald 4) RE: Bad Seats... was PE Parts Set by "dfernet0" 5) Re: covered in "bloody" wires. Yuck. & bonus Cockney tangent. by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 6) RE: PE Parts Set by "Graham Hunter" 7) RE: PE Parts Set by "Lance Krieg" 8) Re: lounge lizard in NO by "Hans Trauner" 9) RE: PE Parts Set by Shane Weier 10) RE: PE Parts Set by "Graham Hunter" 11) RE: Bad Seats... was PE Parts Set by Todd Hayes 12) Re: PE Parts Set by "Steven M.Perry" 13) RE: PE Parts Set by Todd Hayes 14) RE: PE Parts Set by Todd Hayes 15) Re: PE Parts Set by "Steven M.Perry" 16) Beginner's question about sanding wings by "Ken Zelnick" 17) FSM poll by "Matt Bittner" 18) Re: PE Parts Set by Todd Hayes 19) Re: The Mighty Heretic has returned from the 18th century....un-singed! by "Michael S. Alvarado" 20) Re: PE - Fotocut info - Group based etch parts by MAnde72343@aol.com 21) RE: FSM poll by Brent Theobald 22) DB is back by "DAVID BURKE" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 11:41:32 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: PE Parts Set Message-ID: <20010102194132.14476.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> I'm sure the gunners appreciated those! Can you imagine having a prop a few inches from your head?! --- Brent Theobald wrote: > Howdy, > > One piece I can think of that would be useful are > the chain link looking > prop guards used to keep gunners out of the props. > > Brent > > -----Original Message----- > From: Crawford Neil [mailto:Neil.Crawford@volvo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:23 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: PE Parts Set > > > I second the fishplate thing, ( I already have done > before), > they are impossible to do in any other way than PE, > and it > would be perfect to have some. They don't even have > to be > perfectly correct, because you could cut them in > half and combine > them to make new shapes. And so many OT planes have > them, particuarly > round the fuselage-u/c joint. > /Neil > > > > > If someone - Steve? - is volunteering to put > together the art > > for a sheet, I hope you'll include fishplates of > various > > sizes and configurations. Ago, Pfalz, Avro, > > Armstrong-Whitworth logos, too, since they all > came in a > > pressed-metal format that can be duplicated by PE. > > > > > Lance > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 20:17:04 +0000 From: Steve Cox To: WW1 Mail List Subject: Christmas comes again Message-ID: I had a nice surprise when I got home from work today, a copy of "Return to Rhinebeck" waiting for me. Makes me want to go there even more. Regards Steve nb =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:25:37 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Bad Seats... was PE Parts Set Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79EBD8@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy! I still think the all time worst seat has to be the rear gunner on the Caproni Ca.III. Perched up there on top of the pusher prop. You certainly couldn't be prone to motion sickness with all the pitching and rolling the machine would be doing. At least the MG was hard mounted. Unlike some early English jobs. I think the SPAD with the gunner in front of the prop runs a close second. Any others? WWI only! Brent -----Original Message----- From: Todd Hayes [mailto:thayes_52601@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 1:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: PE Parts Set I'm sure the gunners appreciated those! Can you imagine having a prop a few inches from your head?! --- Brent Theobald wrote: > Howdy, > > One piece I can think of that would be useful are > the chain link looking > prop guards used to keep gunners out of the props. > > Brent > > -----Original Message----- > From: Crawford Neil [mailto:Neil.Crawford@volvo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:23 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: PE Parts Set > > > I second the fishplate thing, ( I already have done > before), > they are impossible to do in any other way than PE, > and it > would be perfect to have some. They don't even have > to be > perfectly correct, because you could cut them in > half and combine > them to make new shapes. And so many OT planes have > them, particuarly > round the fuselage-u/c joint. > /Neil > > > > > If someone - Steve? - is volunteering to put > together the art > > for a sheet, I hope you'll include fishplates of > various > > sizes and configurations. Ago, Pfalz, Avro, > > Armstrong-Whitworth logos, too, since they all > came in a > > pressed-metal format that can be duplicated by PE. > > > > > Lance > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:29:14 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Bad Seats... was PE Parts Set Message-ID: <084a01c074fa$accaed00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> What about the gunner in a FE2b? or the observer/gunner in a BE2c? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brent Theobald To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: Bad Seats... was PE Parts Set > Howdy! > > I still think the all time worst seat has to be the rear gunner on the > Caproni Ca.III. Perched up there on top of the pusher prop. You certainly > couldn't be prone to motion sickness with all the pitching and rolling the > machine would be doing. At least the MG was hard mounted. Unlike some early > English jobs. I think the SPAD with the gunner in front of the prop runs a > close second. > > Any others? WWI only! > > Brent > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Hayes [mailto:thayes_52601@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 1:45 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: PE Parts Set > > > I'm sure the gunners appreciated those! Can you > imagine having a prop a few inches from your head?! > > > > --- Brent Theobald wrote: > > Howdy, > > > > One piece I can think of that would be useful are > > the chain link looking > > prop guards used to keep gunners out of the props. > > > > Brent > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Crawford Neil [mailto:Neil.Crawford@volvo.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:23 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: RE: PE Parts Set > > > > > > I second the fishplate thing, ( I already have done > > before), > > they are impossible to do in any other way than PE, > > and it > > would be perfect to have some. They don't even have > > to be > > perfectly correct, because you could cut them in > > half and combine > > them to make new shapes. And so many OT planes have > > them, particuarly > > round the fuselage-u/c joint. > > /Neil > > > > > > > > If someone - Steve? - is volunteering to put > > together the art > > > for a sheet, I hope you'll include fishplates of > > various > > > sizes and configurations. Ago, Pfalz, Avro, > > > Armstrong-Whitworth logos, too, since they all > > came in a > > > pressed-metal format that can be duplicated by PE. > > > > > > > > Lance > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:37:55 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: covered in "bloody" wires. Yuck. & bonus Cockney tangent. Message-ID: In a message dated 02/01/01 18:21:49 GMT Standard Time, lensmith@clara.net writes: << Sorry mite, too busy trying to dodge me trouble n strife. Len darn sarf. >> Bah gum! Ah canni understand a word tha sez! Tha's not related t' that there Dick Van Dyke is't tha? ayeup! Peter up't'north p.s. Can'st tha use a good recipe for Yorkshire Terrier in plum sauce? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:56:37 -0600 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: PE Parts Set Message-ID: <000101c074fe$8072db60$fa0101c0@grahamh> Hi list, I am back from holidays and resubscribed. Could someone please repost the original of this thread. It sounds like something I want (custom PE?). TIA, Graham H. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 15:12:24 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: PE Parts Set Message-ID: Graham asks for: "...the original of this thread." There were a lot of posts on this subject, enough tthat I am uncertain on what, if anything, is being proposed. If I have paid close enough attention, I think it goes something like this: Fred Hultberg of Fotocut has encouraged the group to develop appropriate artwork for a set of OT PE. I have Fred's instructions on how to create this artwork, and am copying it for Steve Perry, who appears to have been dragooned into ringleading the endeavor. Steve has not necessarily volunteered to draft the requisite art, but hasn't said "no" either. Price has not been finalized, at this point, and the group is tossing out suggestions for what might be desirable for inclusion. Is this a fair synopsis? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 22:30:05 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: lounge lizard in NO Message-ID: <002601c07503$2d030c20$f6a172d4@custom-pc> I cannot resist either: "Don't beware of the Hans in the sun" Hans -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Ernest Thomas An: Multiple recipients of list Datum: Dienstag, 2. Januar 2001 19:57 Betreff: Re: lounge lizard in NO > > >dfernet0 wrote: > >> Ernie defined: >> >Lounge Lizards - Build models 'just to meet chicks'. >> >> I bet you met a lot interested in lozenge application right? ;-) >> Here are some pick up lines for those interested on meeting girls on >> bachelotr's bars: >> "Love your CDL, dear. Wich dope do you use?" >> "Hi Baby, I'm Schneider" >> "Nice tailplanes. Are you rigged?" >> "Your Gotha or mine?" >> "You blip me out" > >"Your cammo pattern really turns me on. It's very sensual." >"Has anyone ever told you that your seams are flawless?" >"How about coming back to my place for a Roland the hay?" >"I would love to have a peek in your cockpit?" > >and here's some for the girls.... > >"Is that a tube of glue in you pocket, or are you just happy to see me?" > >"Care to turn my props?" >"I like a man with tight rigging." > >and here's what Bittner dreads hearing... > >"Size DOES matter!" > >E. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 07:37:28 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: PE Parts Set Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C710174898F@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Todd asks: > I'm sure the gunners appreciated those! Can you > imagine having a prop a few inches from your head?! Frankly, I'd be more frightened as a Caproni rear gunner. That wooden prop spinning furiously a few inches from my chances of siring a family would fair bring a sweat to my brow even at the highest altitude Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:57:32 -0600 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: PE Parts Set Message-ID: <000201c07507$02bdfc00$fa0101c0@grahamh> Thanks Lance this sounds like what I expected. So do I bug Steve off list for what I'd like to see? ;-) What I'd like is the little clevises used for the control wire/horn mount. Simply a straight piece with two holes in the ends (for the bolt connection to horn) and one hole in the center (for the cable connection). Just form it over a small rod into an U shape, insert desired control cable into center hole and a short piece of rod thru end holes and hole in control horn. Regards, Graham H. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:16:05 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Bad Seats... was PE Parts Set Message-ID: <20010102221605.73178.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Or a Voisan! --- dfernet0 wrote: > What about the gunner in a FE2b? or the > observer/gunner in a BE2c? > D. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brent Theobald > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 5:30 PM > Subject: Bad Seats... was PE Parts Set > > > > Howdy! > > > > I still think the all time worst seat has to be > the rear gunner on the > > Caproni Ca.III. Perched up there on top of the > pusher prop. You certainly > > couldn't be prone to motion sickness with all the > pitching and rolling the > > machine would be doing. At least the MG was hard > mounted. Unlike some > early > > English jobs. I think the SPAD with the gunner in > front of the prop runs a > > close second. > > > > Any others? WWI only! > > > > Brent > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Todd Hayes [mailto:thayes_52601@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 1:45 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: RE: PE Parts Set > > > > > > I'm sure the gunners appreciated those! Can you > > imagine having a prop a few inches from your > head?! > > > > > > > > --- Brent Theobald > wrote: > > > Howdy, > > > > > > One piece I can think of that would be useful > are > > > the chain link looking > > > prop guards used to keep gunners out of the > props. > > > > > > Brent > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Crawford Neil > [mailto:Neil.Crawford@volvo.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:23 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > > Subject: RE: PE Parts Set > > > > > > > > > I second the fishplate thing, ( I already have > done > > > before), > > > they are impossible to do in any other way than > PE, > > > and it > > > would be perfect to have some. They don't even > have > > > to be > > > perfectly correct, because you could cut them in > > > half and combine > > > them to make new shapes. And so many OT planes > have > > > them, particuarly > > > round the fuselage-u/c joint. > > > /Neil > > > > > > > > > > > If someone - Steve? - is volunteering to put > > > together the art > > > > for a sheet, I hope you'll include fishplates > of > > > various > > > > sizes and configurations. Ago, Pfalz, Avro, > > > > Armstrong-Whitworth logos, too, since they all > > > came in a > > > > pressed-metal format that can be duplicated by > PE. > > > > > > > > > > > Lance > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! > > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:19:50 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: PE Parts Set Message-ID: <007901c0750a$208fed80$d6f9aec7@default> > Thanks Lance this sounds like what I expected. So do I bug Steve off list > for what I'd like to see? ;-) Go for it, I'd rather be bugged by WWI PE stuff than the nonsense that BvB dreams up to bug me with ;-) > What I'd like is the little clevises used for the control wire/horn mount. > Simply a straight piece with two holes in the ends (for the bolt connection > to horn) and one hole in the center (for the cable connection). Just form it > over a small rod into an U shape, insert desired control cable into center > hole and a short piece of rod thru end holes and hole in control horn. Hot diggity damn, now that beats the pants off little blobs of Acryl gel and paint. I'm about to leave for the monthly model club meeting, so I will post more when I get back, but I heard again from Fred at Fotocut and he is sending me a copy of his catalog "a glorified price list really" and has given me permission to copy it and distribute it to any list members who want it. I'll try to photo copy it with the digicam. If that works I'll post it, otherwise I'll have to "dragoon" someone with a scanner to make an e-copy available. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:21:43 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: PE Parts Set Message-ID: <20010102222143.49183.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> The Spad A.2/4 would have to intimidating too. WW1 gunners must of had some strong stomachs and nerves! Todd --- Shane Weier wrote: > Todd asks: > > > > I'm sure the gunners appreciated those! Can you > > imagine having a prop a few inches from your > head?! > > Frankly, I'd be more frightened as a Caproni rear > gunner. That wooden prop > spinning furiously a few inches from my chances of > siring a family would > fair bring a sweat to my brow even at the highest > altitude > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is > confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, > distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are > requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to > the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > ********************************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:25:27 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: PE Parts Set Message-ID: <20010102222527.26911.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> Graham, The funny thing is that this whole thread started with suggestions for the open framework on the end of Sopwiths and Hanriots!! And then came the flood!!! Todd --- Graham Hunter wrote: > Thanks Lance this sounds like what I expected. So do > I bug Steve off list > for what I'd like to see? ;-) > What I'd like is the little clevises used for the > control wire/horn mount. > Simply a straight piece with two holes in the ends > (for the bolt connection > to horn) and one hole in the center (for the cable > connection). Just form it > over a small rod into an U shape, insert desired > control cable into center > hole and a short piece of rod thru end holes and > hole in control horn. > Regards, Graham H. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:50:47 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: PE Parts Set Message-ID: <009c01c0750e$731c4b80$d6f9aec7@default> > The funny thing is that this whole thread started with > suggestions for the open framework on the end of > Sopwiths and Hanriots!! And then came the flood!!! I am trying to move ahead with this project so we can get the Sopwith tail frames available in time to be of use in the Sopwith cookup. I am shy on Sopwith refrences, and would greatly apreciate any scans or copies of drawings of the tail end of Sopwith machines. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:04:00 -0600 From: "Ken Zelnick" To: Subject: Beginner's question about sanding wings Message-ID: <001301c07510$4e82dee0$8664b4d0@tcac.net> Greetings, Here's a beginner's question : do any of you have any special techniques for thinning wings and removing starving cow ribs, and retaining a nice smooth curve? How do you avoid flat spots and uneven airfoils? TIA, Ken Zelnick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:20:52 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: FSM poll Message-ID: <200101022320.PAA12085@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Has everyone submitted their wish list to FSM? I just did. The first four (of five) were on topic - Nie.17, SPAD 7 and 13, and Breguet 14. The last one is my other passion. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:21:06 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: PE Parts Set Message-ID: <20010102232106.56021.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> I'm afraid there I can't be of much help. I can supply a paper pattern for a 1:48 Hanriot HD.1/2. Scaling it down for 1:72 shouln't be a problem, should it? Todd --- "Steven M.Perry" wrote: > > The funny thing is that this whole thread started > with > > suggestions for the open framework on the end of > > Sopwiths and Hanriots!! And then came the > flood!!! > > I am trying to move ahead with this project so we > can get the Sopwith tail > frames available in time to be of use in the Sopwith > cookup. > > I am shy on Sopwith refrences, and would greatly > apreciate any scans or > copies of drawings of the tail end of Sopwith > machines. > > sp > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 19:16:24 -0500 From: "Michael S. Alvarado" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The Mighty Heretic has returned from the 18th century....un-singed! Message-ID: <3A526F57.97236ED6@bellatlantic.net> Todd, My check is made out will mail it tomorrow. Got to find a stamp. Alvie Todd Hayes wrote: > Ernest, > > I'm sending the order for the Martinsydes in Wednesday > or Thursday. I can cover your and Alvies part until > payment arrives. We did really good. 13 Martinsydes, > 1 1:72 MoS.H, and 1 1:72 Sram AGO C.II. 15 kits for > $215 including shipping (to me)! Try that in the US!! > Glad you had a safe trip. > > Todd > > --- Ernest Thomas wrote: > > Howdy and Happy New Year Everybody! > > Back from Williamsburg. Had a great time. Avoided > > prosecution for > > heresies, but was fined 5 shillings(chump change) > > for not going to > > church. > > Spent a very pleasant, though painfully expensive, > > couple hours dining > > with the Alverados (who had a miserable time getting > > there) discussing > > OT stuff and getting a glimpse into the depths of > > Alvie's terminal AMS > > condition. Mrs. Alvie is as lovely a person as > > Father Sharon says. (and > > what happened to the rest of y'all, huh?) > > Other OT content was limited to thumbing through a > > copy of The > > Illustrated Red Baron at Rizzoli's (across the > > street from the 18th > > century) and a crappy looking die-cast A7V in the > > toy store next door > > to Rizzoli. > > Trying to get 921 messages from the %(^%# server but > > the first 80 or so > > have been from dec 19th '99 and working up to Feb. > > '00. And it's taking > > it's damned sweet time giving me those when it's not > > disconnecting me. > > (more #$*%) > > Any ideas on how to get out of this mess? > > > > But anyway, Williamsburg is a fab place to visit. > > Highly recommended. > > But it's nice to be back here. > > E. > > > > PS; my MiL is an abominably stupid woman. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:35:54 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: PE - Fotocut info - Group based etch parts Message-ID: <2d.586e868.2783cdea@aol.com> --part1_2d.586e868.2783cdea_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Withold, I figured as much, but the Roden set could be used for the MAC, at least most of it, so it does not matter, I can't wait, Part does very nice work. Merrill --part1_2d.586e868.2783cdea_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Withold, I figured as much, but the Roden set could be used for the
MAC, at least most of it, so it does not matter, I can't wait, Part does very
nice work.
Merrill

--part1_2d.586e868.2783cdea_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 18:41:41 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: FSM poll Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A79EBDA@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Hi Matt, 1/72 Sarah McLaughlin (sp?) :) But seriously, what is the other ot subject? Something VVS I presume? Later! Brent -----Original Message----- From: Matt Bittner [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 5:26 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: FSM poll Has everyone submitted their wish list to FSM? I just did. The first four (of five) were on topic - Nie.17, SPAD 7 and 13, and Breguet 14. The last one is my other passion. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 18:55:17 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: DB is back Message-ID: <01f801c0751f$d7de9b20$f485aec7@com> Hey, I'm back. Some jackass has invalidated my calendar. I go away to have fun on the (frozen) beach on Dauphin Island and someone advances the year behind my back. Nobody tells me anything. DB ......feeling like 2000 was bad enough and that 2001 can only get worse a la 'Marvin the Paranoid Android'..... ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2940 **********************