WWI Digest 2938 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Sopwiths that no models exist for by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 2) Re: ICM's kits and Konig review by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 3) Re: Sopwith Cookup by Bob Sasak 4) Sopwiths that no models exist for by "cameron rile" 5) Re: PE Parts Set by Morg17ms@aol.com 6) New Years Resolutions by Shane Weier 7) Happy New Year by Todd Hayes 8) Sopwith Cookup Page live by "cameron rile" 9) by Todd Hayes 10) MAC vs. Roden - A tale of 2 Pfalz D III by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 11) Re: PE Parts Set by "Matt Bittner" 12) Sikorskii S.16 References by Todd Hayes 13) Re: Sikorskii S.16 References by "Steven M.Perry" 14) Re: Sikorskii S.16 References by "Matt Bittner" 15) Free at last, free at last, free at last by "Steven M.Perry" 16) Re: Sikorskii S.16 References by Todd Hayes 17) Re: Sikorskii S.16 References by Todd Hayes 18) Re: Sikorskii S.16 References by Todd Hayes 19) Re: Sikorskii S.16 References by Todd Hayes 20) Re: Sop Tripes by "Steven M.Perry" 21) How to paint horses by Shane Weier 22) The Mighty Heretic has returned from the 18th century....un-singed! by Ernest Thomas 23) RE: How to paint horses by "Gaston Graf" 24) Re: The Mighty Heretic has returned from the 18th century....un-singed! by Todd Hayes 25) Internet Modeller Page Problems? by "Mike Dicianna" 26) VAMP rder, was Re: The Mighty(blah, blah, baah...) by Ernest Thomas 27) RE: Internet Modeller Page Problems? by "Gaston Graf" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:31:16 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwiths that no models exist for Message-ID: <75.e58d840.27825f34@aol.com> In a message dated 01/01/01 21:58:11 GMT Standard Time, Ray_Boorman@telus.net writes: << how about some Sopwiths that would have to be scratchbuilt. >> I have a 1914 Gordon Bennett racer which I built for the cookup. I'm also working on a provisional set of drawings to post along with the pics. An experimental Snark fuselage worked pretty well to, but I promised someone I'd spend some time on an unrelated project so it probably won't go any further cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 02:04:15 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ICM's kits and Konig review Message-ID: In a message dated 1/1/01 1:07:15 AM EST, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Of course. In Australia you'd be part of the Chardonnay Set - and a glass in hand is de rigeur for those types :-) >> Well, I certainly have no problem with a glass of a nice Aussie cellar of that. TC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 14:57:03 -0800 From: Bob Sasak To: Subject: Re: Sopwith Cookup Message-ID: on 12/31/00 3:54 PM, cameron rile at cameron@prontomail.com wrote: > > Is anyone against the Sopwith Cookup starting with the new year? And > is anyone against the Sopwith Cookup having a tentative goal date of > six months? My Albatros model is taking more work than I first thought. It's good for everyone to move on and I will get caught up as soon as I can. I will probably sit out this cookup until my first is done. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:02:39 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Sopwiths that no models exist for Message-ID: <13D7EEA9F10E4D115A750005B80A9E19@cameron.prontomail.com> Ray, I know Peter Leonard just finished a Gordon Bennet Racer too ;) So that category will be on the page. With the Sopwith Buffalo, 4 Sqn AFC received one of the prototypes in late October and had it on strength for about a month for some service trials and demonstrations. This was about the time they were converting from Camels to Snipes so they had both types at their aerodrome. Apparently the Buffalo came to be called at the squadron, " A thorn between two roses" ( the roses being the Camel and Snipe) lol. cam ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:00:05 EST From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: PE Parts Set Message-ID: Sounds great! How can we get our hands on the Fotocut catalog? Tom Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:04:02 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: New Years Resolutions Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748986@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Hi all, In the full and certain knowledge that my resolutions fail by January 3, I pose the following..... 1. *Finish* at least three OT kits with minimal changes from the way the manufacturer intended they be built 2. *Finish* at least one OT kit to a standard of which I'm proud - may be one of the above ! 3. Advance at least one of the four scratchbuilds in progress to completion 4. Meet as many listees as possible I'd hate to be a bookmaker framing odds on any of this though :-) Shane nb. BM Sopwith Snipe (a review kit which first got out of hand, then suffered from inept airbrushing) ICM Konig nhig(now hidden in garage) Scratchbuilds, half built kits and dust ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 15:54:07 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Happy New Year Message-ID: <20010101235407.46079.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> Happy New Month! Year! Decade! Century! Millenium! 01/01/01/01/01 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:25:13 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Sopwith Cookup Page live Message-ID: <2628EEA9F10E4D115A750005B80A9E19@cameron.prontomail.com> Folks, I transferred across all the albatros stuff, we managed to generate 60 Megs of content on the Albatros page, pretty good considering most pages are throwaway, the Albatros cookup was definately a narrowcast that made the web richer in content. As I transferred it over and I have a small connection and xoom/nbci is notoriously unreliable, if anyone notices any problems with Albatros page please notify me and I will fix it. The Sopwith Page is now live too, like the Albatros page in it's infancy it needs content, any areas that I have marked with a ".............." or a blank need to be filled. http://members.nbci.com/otprojects/ I went through the lists archives for PC10/PC12 and CDL recipies though if someone wants to start up new ones on those topics ...... Also accepting Sopwith pledges to the cookup too, in the format; [name] - [scale] [kit] [aircraft name] [markings or scheme] send them to otprojects@prontomail.com or cameron@prontomail.com Let the second round of fun begin! cam AFC - http://members.nbci/com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 16:40:19 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Message-ID: <20010102004019.1810.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> Is Anyone here interested in pre-WW1/WW1 Russian ships? I just noticed Aviapress carries a Russian company called Combrig Company. They do 1/700 Battleships, Cruisers, and destroyers in resin. They average about $35 ea. TH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 02:25:11 +0700 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: MAC vs. Roden - A tale of 2 Pfalz D III Message-ID: Good Morning (well, here in SEA) list, because of our discussions in November concerning the new Pfalz D III from Roden and because of some incredibly fast service from NKR models, I decided to postpone my Fokkers and started the 2 most recent Pfalz D III kits from Roden and MAC. Both kits are now semi completed: The fuselage including lower wings and wing and undercarriage struts are finished, the main components are airbrushed. So the Top wings will go on next, the rigging and final detailing (guns, wheels, prop) have to follow. However, the models are advanced sufficiently enough to allow for some comments that you might find useful: 1. General remarks As already stated before on the list, the MAC kit is not new. It is an adapted copy of the older Czechmaster resin originating from the mid 80ies. Adapted because of the obvious modification: The interchangable lower wing tips are gone, instead each of the 2 (III and IIIa) kists got a complete wing, the same is also true for the other small differences in the original resin kit. Too, the masters have been cleaned up, and the lower wing has now also received the false wing ribs between the main ones. The Roden kit on the other hand is completely new. Because of my old love affair with the Czechmaster resins and of some comments on Roden/Toko quality in general, I suspected it might be worse than the MAC. Well, read on 2. Cockpit and interior detailing The Roden offers a better seat and a dream of a control stick for the Pfalz. The Mac offers 2 control sticks, one in plastic, one in photo etching, but both are quite bad. I used the plastic stick, but cleaning up and thinning down took maybe more time than building it from scratch. The MAC kit offers the grease pump moulded integrally in the right fuselage, the air pump as a seperate item, and "something" (looking like a throttle) moulded in the left fuselage. That something seems to be quite inaccurate when compared with drawings. I replaced it with scratch build starter/ignition units over there. The MAC has no internal fuselage stringers, which I added from heat stretched square evergreen rod. The Roden kit offers accurate in size internal fuselage structures, but no pumps, switches or starter unit, which I all added from plastic card and rod. Both kits offer a Mercedes D III engine, with the MAc only the upper half, whereas Roden offers a complete one. Both are reasonably accurate, but can see some added detail. Well, they will basically dissapear anyway... To avoid the problems Michael Kendix described in the IM, I first fitted the MAC floorto one fuselage half, then added the details and finally the engine. The engine required some careful trimming on its base to get into the proper position. On the other hand, the Roden cockpit floor slips into place from the front after the fuselage and lower wing are completely assembled. I provided some support on top of the lower wing center section to fuit the cockpit floor in place. It went in like a dream - never had something like that on a WW I kit. Overall, the Roden is the clear winner in this area. 2. Fuselage and wing dimensions Looking on the Simpkin drawings in the DF, there seemed to be a problem with both kits, with the fuselage being to short by 1 to 1.5 mm. I was just about to cut the Roden fuselage in half, when it dawned to me I might check the drawing first. Well, a 72 scale D III should be 96,5 mm long - the Simpkin drawings measure anything between 98 and 98,5 mm. Nice one, Roden & MAC. There are some minor differences in the fuselage cross sections, with the Roden kit more closely following the Simpkin/DF drawings. In general, the MAC kit has some very nice recessed detailing for the access panels, whereas the Roden kit offers some rather soft raised detailing. I removed this and replaced it with some scribing.. The MAC cockpit is a touch more towards the front end than the Roden, with the Roden maybe more correctly situated. The Roden cockpit cutout seems to be a touch to small on the other hand. I carefully enlarged it at the back end. The top wing: Roden more accurately follows the drawings - and existing photos -, the MAC wing being to rounded. This results in some missing material. Both lower wings are spot on. Assembly of the lower wing to fuselage proved difficult in both kits, requiring a lot of careful sanding and dryfitting. I have always loved the lower wing root design of the Czechmaster resin, especially the area that Northrop/McDonnell Douglas would have called TERX (trailing edge root extension). I was therefore dissapointed to see the rather clumsly looking Roden version. However, when studying photos I was astonished that the original looked equally clumsy: That is the mayor flaw of the MAC/Czechmaster/Meikraft kit: In the original, this root was convex, it bulged slightly to the outside (seen from most angles - remember this is very much a threedimensional problem). This is accurately portraied in the Roden kit, but the MAC has a much more elegant looking, but wrong concave root. The fin and rudder are nearly identical on both aircraft, with the Roden slightly more rounded in the lower area. Once again, photos seem to confirm the Roden version. When assembling the tailplane, Murphy struck: This was the only part I had not dryfitted before - and it is the mayor flaw of the Roden kit. I was building the D IIIa from the Roden kit. Now the D IIIa had a deeper tailplane, with the extension at the leading edge. However, Roden provides a slot to mount the original D III tailplane in their fuselage. If you mount the D IIIa tailplane, the whole assembly will be to far back. This can ebven be seen in the Roden instruction sheet. Sorry, Roden: But such a flaw should not happen in such a well designed kit. Lots of kits might be finished really inaccurate because of this. Anyway, the solution is not to difficult: I cut a slot into the front end of the tailplane in the fuselage area to move it to the front. Beside that, the other mayor problematic area for the Roden kit is the 3 part fuselage, with the engine cover as a seperate part. Again, careful trimming, bending and dryfitting is required. However, when in place it requiered the barest minimum of filler. Again, the Roden comes out a clear winner, with the MAC kit bveing let down by that trailing edge root. But also in other respects the Roden is more accurate. 3. Detail Parts The MAC airsrew is way to small in diameter. On the other hand, the Roden airscrew needs some careful trimming at its root because of some moulding problems. The Roden wheels look wrong (the tires to small), even though this is difficult to prove when measuring. I will nevertheless replace them with some from from the spares box (the wheels are not yet on). The struts are fine on both kits, with the MAC being more blunt at the tips (like the early D III strut tips), whereas the Roden provides more poited tips (like in the later D IIIA) I rounded off the MAC strut tips with some white glue, as I am building a D III from the MAC kit. 4. Overall Asessment The Roden comes out a clear and definite winner in my eyes. It is dimensionally ore accurate and also easier to assemble. HOwever, the tailplane mistake should definitely have been avoidable. The MAC kit is mainly let down by the wing root inaccuracy, but also has other minor inaccuracies. In general, it shows the age of the original kit. If you got the MAC kit, you will nevertheless enjoy building it - I certainly did. Volker Oops - that got longer than intended ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 20:09:32 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: PE Parts Set Message-ID: <200101020209.SAA18744@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 15:30:06 -0500 (EST), Steven M.Perry wrote: > I'll post more when I communicate further with him. That is cool! sp, anything you need, LMK. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:20:26 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Sikorskii S.16 References Message-ID: <20010102022026.41398.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Could someone tell me where I can find some good references on the S.16? I remember a book on it that was advertised by SMO. The same publishers did one on the Hansa-Brandenburg D.I but I can't remember their name. TIA Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 21:25:10 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Sikorskii S.16 References Message-ID: <016001c07463$3ba49500$57f9aec7@default> > Could someone tell me where I can find some good > references on the S.16? I remember a book on it that > was advertised by SMO. The same publishers did one on > the Hansa-Brandenburg D.I but I can't remember their > name. Back before my computer crashed and I lost all my saved e-mails, I was talking with someone about the S.16 book I have. Was it you Todd? sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 20:27:15 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Sikorskii S.16 References Message-ID: <200101020227.SAA24159@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 21:24:00 -0500 (EST), Todd Hayes wrote: > Could someone tell me where I can find some good > references on the S.16? I remember a book on it that > was advertised by SMO. The same publishers did one on > the Hansa-Brandenburg D.I but I can't remember their > name. FMP. If you can't find it, it's still available in the original Cyrillic at Tushino-Aviapress. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 21:58:36 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Free at last, free at last, free at last Message-ID: <016e01c07467$e79180e0$57f9aec7@default> After spending 42 days brutaly chained to the modeling bench, the doctor has proclaimed my ankle fit enough to return to work tomorrow. (oh, whoppie) IIRC I came equipped with two of those things (ankles). Hmmm..... ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:02:16 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sikorskii S.16 References Message-ID: <20010102030216.13409.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> Matt, Is that the one by Polygon Press? I'm supposed to have a copy on the way. Todd --- Matt Bittner wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 21:24:00 -0500 (EST), Todd Hayes > wrote: > > > Could someone tell me where I can find some good > > references on the S.16? I remember a book on it > that > > was advertised by SMO. The same publishers did > one on > > the Hansa-Brandenburg D.I but I can't remember > their > > name. > > FMP. If you can't find it, it's still available in > the original > Cyrillic at Tushino-Aviapress. > > > Matt Bittner > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:08:33 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sikorskii S.16 References Message-ID: <20010102030833.45000.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Steve, I don't think it was me. Matt gives FMP as the publisher of the English language edition. The prop in one picture of an S.16 surprised me. It looks like a French Chauviere. Those Master Club kits deserve Digmayer props. Todd --- "Steven M.Perry" wrote: > > > Could someone tell me where I can find some good > > references on the S.16? I remember a book on it > that > > was advertised by SMO. The same publishers did > one on > > the Hansa-Brandenburg D.I but I can't remember > their > > name. > > Back before my computer crashed and I lost all my > saved e-mails, I was > talking with someone about the S.16 book I have. Was > it you Todd? > sp > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:15:10 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sikorskii S.16 References Message-ID: <20010102031510.66825.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Matt, Have you seen the 1:72 Master Club Sikorskiis? If they're anywhere near as good of quality as the 1:48 kits, I'd have to put them in the "awesome model" class. Those wheels are incredible! I'm sending the VAMP order in Wednesday or Thursday. Todd --- Matt Bittner wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 21:24:00 -0500 (EST), Todd Hayes > wrote: > > > Could someone tell me where I can find some good > > references on the S.16? I remember a book on it > that > > was advertised by SMO. The same publishers did > one on > > the Hansa-Brandenburg D.I but I can't remember > their > > name. > > FMP. If you can't find it, it's still available in > the original > Cyrillic at Tushino-Aviapress. > > > Matt Bittner > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:16:20 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sikorskii S.16 References Message-ID: <20010102031620.62928.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> P.s. I'm sending the VAMP order in on Wednesday or Thursday. Todd --- "Steven M.Perry" wrote: > > > Could someone tell me where I can find some good > > references on the S.16? I remember a book on it > that > > was advertised by SMO. The same publishers did > one on > > the Hansa-Brandenburg D.I but I can't remember > their > > name. > > Back before my computer crashed and I lost all my > saved e-mails, I was > talking with someone about the S.16 book I have. Was > it you Todd? > sp > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:25:41 -0500 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: Sop Tripes Message-ID: <019b01c07474$11c00880$57f9aec7@default> > Steve, > > I'll send you a photocopy of the instructions if you'd > like. Which kit? Black Flight or other Todd: Ray sent me a scan. Thanks for the response and ofer, but I have what I need now. Thanks sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:35:41 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: How to paint horses Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C710174898B@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Nigel posted (while I was busy relaxing ) > The best source I ever found to help in > painting horses was > an article by Eugene Leliepvre (an official painter to the > Fernch Army) in > the Historex catalogue. This had brief (but clear) descriptions of the > markings of different horses along with 16 colour plates showing the > variations in coat colour. This is indispensable, and used to > be in every > Historex catalogue (although we're talking the 1970's > here!!!). During the 20 years I animated, modified, and otherwise bastardised Historexes lamented product range the articles in their catalogues were my painting bible. I still have them all (somewhere) and am willing to copy these brief but indispensable pieces for any who want them. ONLY.....it may take a few days. Those waiting on airborne camera articles from me will by now probably be unsurprised to know that the pre-Christmas rush was too rushed for me to get copies away to them, and the copying is just finished today (sorry - it'll be a couple more weeks for postal services to deliver !) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 00:07:13 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: The List Subject: The Mighty Heretic has returned from the 18th century....un-singed! Message-ID: <3A517010.A8D671DF@bellsouth.net> Howdy and Happy New Year Everybody! Back from Williamsburg. Had a great time. Avoided prosecution for heresies, but was fined 5 shillings(chump change) for not going to church. Spent a very pleasant, though painfully expensive, couple hours dining with the Alverados (who had a miserable time getting there) discussing OT stuff and getting a glimpse into the depths of Alvie's terminal AMS condition. Mrs. Alvie is as lovely a person as Father Sharon says. (and what happened to the rest of y'all, huh?) Other OT content was limited to thumbing through a copy of The Illustrated Red Baron at Rizzoli's (across the street from the 18th century) and a crappy looking die-cast A7V in the toy store next door to Rizzoli. Trying to get 921 messages from the %(^%# server but the first 80 or so have been from dec 19th '99 and working up to Feb. '00. And it's taking it's damned sweet time giving me those when it's not disconnecting me. (more #$*%) Any ideas on how to get out of this mess? But anyway, Williamsburg is a fab place to visit. Highly recommended. But it's nice to be back here. E. PS; my MiL is an abominably stupid woman. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:23:38 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: How to paint horses Message-ID: To paint horses I would like to recommend Sheperd Paines book called BUILDING AND PAINTING SCALE FIGURES. The chapter8 "Painting Horses" features 10 pages in depth information about everything regarding the anatomy and markings of horses. Ol' master Shep recommends artist oils to use on horses because one can nicely reproduce the hairy texture with it and because the oils are easy to blend. On larger scale horses he even uses aibrushes after underpainting with oils for the texture. The ISBN # of the book is 185310 4965. It's really a great book about model figures. happy modeling Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > During the 20 years I animated, modified, and otherwise bastardised > Historexes lamented product range the articles in their catalogues were my > painting bible. I still have them all (somewhere) and am willing to copy > these brief but indispensable pieces for any who want them. > > ONLY.....it may take a few days. Those waiting on airborne camera articles > from me will by now probably be unsurprised to know that the pre-Christmas > rush was too rushed for me to get copies away to them, and the copying is > just finished today (sorry - it'll be a couple more weeks for postal > services to deliver !) > > Shane > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 22:30:23 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The Mighty Heretic has returned from the 18th century....un-singed! Message-ID: <20010102063023.81534.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Ernest, I'm sending the order for the Martinsydes in Wednesday or Thursday. I can cover your and Alvies part until payment arrives. We did really good. 13 Martinsydes, 1 1:72 MoS.H, and 1 1:72 Sram AGO C.II. 15 kits for $215 including shipping (to me)! Try that in the US!! Glad you had a safe trip. Todd --- Ernest Thomas wrote: > Howdy and Happy New Year Everybody! > Back from Williamsburg. Had a great time. Avoided > prosecution for > heresies, but was fined 5 shillings(chump change) > for not going to > church. > Spent a very pleasant, though painfully expensive, > couple hours dining > with the Alverados (who had a miserable time getting > there) discussing > OT stuff and getting a glimpse into the depths of > Alvie's terminal AMS > condition. Mrs. Alvie is as lovely a person as > Father Sharon says. (and > what happened to the rest of y'all, huh?) > Other OT content was limited to thumbing through a > copy of The > Illustrated Red Baron at Rizzoli's (across the > street from the 18th > century) and a crappy looking die-cast A7V in the > toy store next door > to Rizzoli. > Trying to get 921 messages from the %(^%# server but > the first 80 or so > have been from dec 19th '99 and working up to Feb. > '00. And it's taking > it's damned sweet time giving me those when it's not > disconnecting me. > (more #$*%) > Any ideas on how to get out of this mess? > > But anyway, Williamsburg is a fab place to visit. > Highly recommended. > But it's nice to be back here. > E. > > PS; my MiL is an abominably stupid woman. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 22:31:19 -0800 From: "Mike Dicianna" To: "WWI List Posting" Subject: Internet Modeller Page Problems? Message-ID: <010701c07485$9ea28fa0$357f3ace@pavilion> Just tried to get my monthly dose of IM and nothing seems to happen.... Even all the past issues came up with an "page cannot be found" message. Anybody else have this problem... Help, I'm going through withdrawl!! MikeDC "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 01:10:19 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: VAMP rder, was Re: The Mighty(blah, blah, baah...) Message-ID: <3A517EDA.C7D9C620@bellsouth.net> Todd, Todd Hayes wrote: > I'm sending the order for the Martinsydes in Wednesday > or Thursday. I can cover your and Alvies part until > payment arrives. Thanks much, though you won't have to cover me for long. My check is already clothes pinned to the mail box for morning pick-up. I just hope the ink doesn't freeze off. E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:10:57 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Internet Modeller Page Problems? Message-ID: Mike, no probs to load the IM pages from the old world. Perhaps your ISPs server just locked up? Perhaps the www was just jammed due to increased traffic? It sometimes helps to logoff and login again a few moments later. btw: really a nice issue of the IM and my congratulations to Pedro for his beautiful model of the Fokker E.IV ;o) sincerely Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Mike Dicianna > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 7:40 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Internet Modeller Page Problems? > > > Just tried to get my monthly dose of IM and nothing seems > to happen.... > > Even all the past issues came up with an "page cannot be > found" message. Anybody else have this problem... > > Help, I'm going through withdrawl!! > > > MikeDC > "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2938 **********************