WWI Digest 2912 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Looks like Japanese by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 2) Hannover C.LIII night camo underside colour? by "Michael Kendix" 3) Re: Holiday greetings from Paradise by MAnde72343@aol.com 4) CMK 1:48 Junkers D.I Instructions/Ernest Thomas by JVT7532@aol.com 5) Re: Holiday greetings from Paradise by MAnde72343@aol.com 6) Hotchkiss Gun Info by "DAVID BURKE" 7) G.3 to G.4 by JVT7532@aol.com 8) Caudron G3 - BIG by "Robert Fabris" 9) Jutland by "Robert Fabris" 10) Re: Hotchkiss Gun Info by MAnde72343@aol.com 11) Thank You For the Replies was Secret Handshake by NodalPoint@aol.com 12) Re: Secret Handshake by "Michael S. Alvarado" 13) Re: Hotchkiss Gun Info by MAnde72343@aol.com 14) Re: CMK 1:48 Junkers D.I Instructions/Ernest Thomas by Todd Hayes 15) Re: Roseplane Caudron G-3 to G-4 by Dennis Ugulano 16) Re: Hotchkiss Gun Info by Todd Hayes 17) Re: Secret Handshake by Ernest Thomas 18) RE: Hotchkiss Gun Info by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 19) Re: Hotchkiss Gun Info by MAnde72343@aol.com 20) Re: Secret Handshake by Todd Hayes 21) Re: Hotchkiss Gun Info by MAnde72343@aol.com 22) Re: Secret Handshake by MAnde72343@aol.com 23) WINDSOCK = VOSIN by JVT7532@aol.com 24) Re: WINDSOCK = VOSIN by MAnde72343@aol.com 25) Re: Secret Handshake by "DAVID BURKE" 26) Re: Secret Handshake by "DAVID BURKE" 27) Re: Secret Handshake by Ernest Thomas 28) Re: HR Models 1:48 Martinsyde S.1 by Ernest Thomas 29) Re: Secret Handshake by Ernest Thomas 30) Re: Holiday greetings from Paradise by "David C. Fletcher" 31) Re: Hotchkiss Gun Info by KarrArt@aol.com 32) Re: Holiday greetings from Paradise by "Patrick Haugh" 33) Re: Secret Handshake by "DAVID BURKE" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:47:20 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Looks like Japanese Message-ID: <3b.e1efa2d.2773e278@aol.com> In a message dated 21/12/00 21:54:09 GMT Standard Time, MackH@Health.State.OK.US writes: << This looks like a japanese contest. Lots of OT. http://www.hi-net.zaq.ne.jp/ladybird/29th/top.htm >> You said it! wish I could read Japanese Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:26:57 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Hannover C.LIII night camo underside colour? Message-ID: Does anyone know what the colours for the underside of the Hannover C.LIII are for nightime camo? I know this is routine information for some but I have no Datafile on that plane. Thanks in advance, Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:34:02 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Holiday greetings from Paradise Message-ID: --part1_d.e0c698c.2773fb7a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The movie was "von Richtofen and Brown" with Hawker alive and at Brown's squadron in 1918! Totally inaccurate, with "Brown" being mixed with Mick Mannock, and odd bits of Bishop. The airplanes were so-so, although the filming of the air scenes was pretty good. It was a typical Hollyweird film, history ignored for a "good" (stupid and fictional) story), although it was pretty sympathetic to MvR. Merrill --part1_d.e0c698c.2773fb7a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The movie was "von Richtofen and Brown" with Hawker alive and at Brown's
squadron in 1918! Totally inaccurate, with "Brown" being mixed with Mick
Mannock, and odd bits of Bishop.  The airplanes were so-so, although the
filming of the air scenes was pretty good. It was a typical Hollyweird film,
history ignored for a "good" (stupid and fictional) story), although it was
pretty sympathetic to MvR.
Merrill

--part1_d.e0c698c.2773fb7a_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:37:55 EST From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: CMK 1:48 Junkers D.I Instructions/Ernest Thomas Message-ID: In a message dated 12/21/2000 5:42:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: << John, No problem. I'll send you a copy. There were no decals with the kit. Todd >> Todd you are truly a gentleman. Thanks very much. Any ideas on some good available marking? List? Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:41:01 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Holiday greetings from Paradise Message-ID: <97.eecf991.2773fd1d@aol.com> --part1_97.eecf991.2773fd1d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TC, it was John Philip Law, about 5" too tall, but closer than some. Merrill --part1_97.eecf991.2773fd1d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TC, it was John Philip Law, about 5" too tall, but closer than some.
Merrill

--part1_97.eecf991.2773fd1d_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:47:22 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Hotchkiss Gun Info Message-ID: <002301c06bb0$c082fd40$47ef79a5@com> Hi Kids, I wonder if'n any of you French-o-philes or gun freaks can tell me whether the Hotchkiss gun was license-built in the U.S. by Colt, Remington, Browning, S&W, or another company. I'm trying to document a gun that is in the museum in Robinson, IL - it sure as hell looks like a Hotchkiss, but is American-made. TIA DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:49:49 EST From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: G.3 to G.4 Message-ID: <9e.dcec556.2773ff2d@aol.com> In a message dated 12/21/2000 5:42:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: << Can you build a G-4 from this kit? >> I don't think it would work to well Brian, it would be better I think to get the wing blanks from Barry and scratch the rest as it seems pretty basic from the drawing I have in the Harleyford book. The nacelles being the toughest part I feel. Phoenix made a G.4 as Marten Tyllstrom has a very nice example he built on the WWl Gallery. I must tell you though, I have been actively looking for one the better part of a year and have not located one yet. Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:02:24 -0800 From: "Robert Fabris" To: Subject: Caudron G3 - BIG Message-ID: <01c401c06bb2$d9bbfb20$0b3b480c@garage> Any interest out there for a Metropolitan G3 kit? It's big - in 1/24 scale. The engine supplied is the Gnome variant. Rudders and elevators operate. Selling this bird at $200. plus postage, includes original shipping foam box but not the paper cover, plus Rimmel and Batter reviews. Please contact me off-line. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:06:20 -0800 From: "Robert Fabris" To: Subject: Jutland Message-ID: <01ca01c06bb3$66ace9e0$0b3b480c@garage> Books on the battle of Jutland, plus CDRom enactment. Also a resin kit of the HMS LION, as produced by Classic Warships in 1/700 scale (waterline). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:57:49 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hotchkiss Gun Info Message-ID: <14.d65d812.2774010d@aol.com> --part1_14.d65d812.2774010d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Colt made J. M. Browning's "potato digger" which Browning updated to the M1917 (The classic American Water-cooled MG) and the M1918 (air cooled, which was used by the US into the 50's) Marlin made the Vickers (Maxim) IIRC Savage made a light MG during the war, and that may be it. Merrill --part1_14.d65d812.2774010d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Colt made J. M.  Browning's "potato digger" which Browning updated to the
M1917 (The classic American Water-cooled MG) and the M1918 (air cooled, which
was used by the US into the 50's) Marlin made the Vickers (Maxim) IIRC Savage
made a light MG during the war, and that may be it.
Merrill

--part1_14.d65d812.2774010d_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:06:51 EST From: NodalPoint@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Thank You For the Replies was Secret Handshake Message-ID: Thank you all for the replies to my DR.1 camo question and "Secret Handshake" comment. I didn't want to sound angry and it seems no one took it that way. I know people who have been involved with this subject a long time probably have to endure some repetitive queries and I appreciate all your help. Have a nice holiday and if anyone is feeling generous, I would like a new airbrush, Eduard's Roland CII profi, Eduard's Sopwith Tripe, season tickets to all the 2001 F1 races... Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:11:48 -0500 From: "Michael S. Alvarado" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Secret Handshake Message-ID: <3A42AA54.4F0425E5@bellatlantic.net> The proof of the color of Voss' cowling is trivial and will be left as a exercise for the student. Alvie DAVID BURKE wrote: > I wonder if Fermat knew what color Voss' cowl would be.... > > DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:22:55 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hotchkiss Gun Info Message-ID: --part1_c8.e730657.277406ef_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scratch what I wrote earlier, Savage made the Lewis Gun, What you probably have is an early (1899) Browning made by Colt, the potato digger 's earliest incarnation. It was air cooled and had a barrel and, etc., that look a lot like the Hotchkiss. Merrill --part1_c8.e730657.277406ef_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scratch what I wrote earlier, Savage made the Lewis Gun, What you probably
have is an early (1899) Browning made by Colt, the potato digger 's earliest
incarnation. It was air cooled and had a barrel and, etc., that look a lot
like the Hotchkiss.
Merrill

--part1_c8.e730657.277406ef_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:33:32 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: CMK 1:48 Junkers D.I Instructions/Ernest Thomas Message-ID: <20001222013332.91644.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> Jon, As far as I've seen in pictures, the D.I carried only basic nat. markings (late Balkankreuze) in the standard positions. What I want is the 2-seater version, the CL.I. Todd --- JVT7532@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/21/2000 5:42:15 PM Eastern > Standard Time, > wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: > > << John, > > No problem. I'll send you a copy. There were no > decals with the kit. > > Todd >> > Todd you are truly a gentleman. Thanks very much. > Any ideas on some good > available marking? List? > > Best regards, > Jon > Jon V. Theisen > 7532 Lawndale Ave. > Phila., PA 19111-2706 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:33:28 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Roseplane Caudron G-3 to G-4 Message-ID: <200012212033_MC2-BF91-847F@compuserve.com> Matt, Phoenix has a G-4. Kit # P-15 by the one and only Joe Chubbock. No metal or decals. But with all of the aftermarket products available, not a problem. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.nbci.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 10/8/00 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:35:57 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hotchkiss Gun Info Message-ID: <20001222013557.56687.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Don't the Marlin and Hotchkiss appear very similar? Todd --- MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > > --part1_14.d65d812.2774010d_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Colt made J. M. Browning's "potato digger" which > Browning updated to the > M1917 (The classic American Water-cooled MG) and the > M1918 (air cooled, which > was used by the US into the 50's) Marlin made the > Vickers (Maxim) IIRC Savage > made a light MG during the war, and that may be it. > Merrill > > > > --part1_14.d65d812.2774010d_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Colt > made J. M.  Browning's "potato digger" which > Browning updated to the
M1917 (The classic > American Water-cooled MG) and the M1918 (air cooled, > which
was used by the US into the 50's) Marlin > made the Vickers (Maxim) IIRC Savage
made a > light MG during the war, and that may be it. >
Merrill >
>
> > --part1_14.d65d812.2774010d_boundary-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:48:11 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Secret Handshake Message-ID: <3A42B2D9.46CA1319@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > I wonder if Fermat knew what color Voss' cowl would be.... Schroedinger showed that is was both yellow and green. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:55:14 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: Subject: RE: Hotchkiss Gun Info Message-ID: I found a couple of references in one of my books, Not being an arms expert, you can draw your own conclusions. "In 1909 the US Army adopted the light Hotchkiss as the caliber .30 M1909 Benet-Mercie Machine Rifle. This strip-fed weapon is essentially the same as the French M 1908 light Hotchkiss. The weapon was manufactured by Colt, but only 670 machine rifles were on hand at the beginning of WWI." "The United States had to purchase 5,255 8mm Hotchkiss Model 1914 heavy machine guns....from the French Government." (no reference to US manufactured guns, however, as above) FYI The Colt "potato digger" was modified by Carl Swebelius to produce the Marlin gun. Paul -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of DAVID BURKE Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Hotchkiss Gun Info Hi Kids, I wonder if'n any of you French-o-philes or gun freaks can tell me whether the Hotchkiss gun was license-built in the U.S. by Colt, Remington, Browning, S&W, or another company. I'm trying to document a gun that is in the museum in Robinson, IL - it sure as hell looks like a Hotchkiss, but is American-made. TIA DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:56:18 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hotchkiss Gun Info Message-ID: <48.f233cf1.27741cd2@aol.com> --part1_48.f233cf1.27741cd2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Marlin was a Licensed copy of the Vickers (Hiram Maxim's design) which was the basis of the Spandau as well. As my second post stated, (after the arterial plaque had shifted) Savage made a copy of the Lewis. No US manufacturer made a copy of the troublesome Hotchkiss, AFAIK. I'm sure the gun in question is the early Colt/Browning, if very early, it may be chambered for the 30-Krag round, although it should have been re-chambered for 30-'06 around 1907. Merrill --part1_48.f233cf1.27741cd2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Marlin was a Licensed copy of the Vickers (Hiram Maxim's design) which
was the basis of the Spandau as well.  As my second post stated, (after the
arterial plaque had shifted) Savage made a copy of the Lewis. No US
manufacturer made a copy of the troublesome Hotchkiss, AFAIK. I'm sure the
gun in question is the early Colt/Browning, if very early, it may be
chambered for the 30-Krag round, although it should have been re-chambered
for 30-'06 around 1907.
Merrill

--part1_48.f233cf1.27741cd2_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:59:31 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Secret Handshake Message-ID: <20001222025931.15266.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> Ernest, Would you give me your address again so I can send the Junkers D.I instructions to you? BTW, they show the tailplane as being notched to fit the fuselage. Todd --- Ernest Thomas wrote: > > > DAVID BURKE wrote: > > > I wonder if Fermat knew what color Voss' cowl > would be.... > > Schroedinger showed that is was both yellow and > green. > E. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:08:03 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hotchkiss Gun Info Message-ID: --part1_b7.9df07f5.27741f93_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You're right, I should have checked the references, thI'd forgotten about the Benet, it was the gun in the Pancho Villa mess. However, I do not think the Marlin was a modification of the early Browning, the pictures I've seen are Vickers/Spandau looking with the big spring housing on the left side. Merrill --part1_b7.9df07f5.27741f93_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You're right, I should have checked the references, thI'd forgotten about the
Benet, it was the gun in the Pancho Villa mess. However, I do not think the
Marlin was a modification of the early Browning, the pictures I've seen are
Vickers/Spandau looking with the big spring housing on the left side.
Merrill

--part1_b7.9df07f5.27741f93_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:09:00 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Secret Handshake Message-ID: <51.52bbc72.27741fcc@aol.com> --part1_51.52bbc72.27741fcc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ME-OWWWWW! --part1_51.52bbc72.27741fcc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ME-OWWWWW!

--part1_51.52bbc72.27741fcc_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:19:12 EST From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: WINDSOCK = VOSIN Message-ID: <16.68444bb.27742230@aol.com> Hello Alberto could you tell me which issue of Windsock International has the Vosin information in it? Is it the latest one? Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:23:39 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WINDSOCK = VOSIN Message-ID: <3c.51ed5ca.2774233b@aol.com> --part1_3c.51ed5ca.2774233b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I happened to have it next to me, vol.16, no, 6, November/December 2000. --part1_3c.51ed5ca.2774233b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I happened to have it next to me, vol.16, no, 6, November/December 2000.

--part1_3c.51ed5ca.2774233b_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:24:54 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Secret Handshake Message-ID: <000201c06bc8$10629020$6087aec7@com> > The proof of the color of Voss' cowling is trivial and will be > left as a exercise for the student. > > Alvie > BADA-BING!! DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:29:20 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Secret Handshake Message-ID: <000301c06bc8$114464a0$6087aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Thomas" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 7:50 PM Subject: Re: Secret Handshake > > > DAVID BURKE wrote: > > > I wonder if Fermat knew what color Voss' cowl would be.... > > Schroedinger showed that is was both yellow and green. > E. > Aha, shouda known you'd pull that one out. Heisenberg, on the other hand, would say that the cowl's color is totally unstable, as it could not possibly be observed in its natural state (by observing it, the observer affects it, and therefore the origin of the 'uncertainty principle'). Of course, if Schroedinger's cat were to pee on it.... DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:44:19 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Secret Handshake Message-ID: <3A42CE12.DA613009@bellsouth.net> Todd Hayes wrote: > Would you give me your address again so I can send the > Junkers D.I instructions to you? Okie Dokie.(and this address is good for any kind soul who may be sitting on an extra DML D-VII they'd like to send me for christmas) :-) Ernest Thomas 2204 Esteban St. Arabi, LA 70032 USA > BTW, they show the > tailplane as being notched to fit the fuselage. They may show it, but my tail plane is a solid piece with no cut out. It's clearly marked where the cut should be cut out from, but I'm looking at the corrugated tail plane, and the smooth tail cone, and thinking it will be a lot easier to fix the tail cone after I let the knife/dremel get away from me. (it happens, even to heretical kings like me.) > > Schroedinger showed that is was both yellow and > > green. And I meant to say; "Schroedinger showed that Voss' cowl was both yellow and green 'simultaneously'." So ponder that one, color nazi's. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:48:24 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: HR Models 1:48 Martinsyde S.1 Message-ID: <3A42CF06.E8AB90AD@bellsouth.net> Todd Hayes wrote: > Lubos e-mailed me today to tell me the price of $20 > for the Martinsyde is incorrect. It's $15! Any of you gringo's plan on ordering one of these? Can I piggy-back one on your order? Please? Pretty please? E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:08:49 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Secret Handshake Message-ID: <3A42D3D0.4CF42B0F@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > Aha, shouda known you'd pull that one out. Heisenberg, on the other hand, > would say that the cowl's color is totally unstable, as it could not > possibly be observed in its natural state (by observing it, the observer > affects it, and therefore the origin of the 'uncertainty principle'). Of > course, if Schroedinger's cat were to pee on it.... Ah, but acording to Kaku's super string theory, it was originally chartreuse. But when the 10(or 26) dimensional universe shattered , thus creating the big bang,(triggered when the cat pee'd in a worm hole, which, incidently, was actually located in the port side eye hole of said cowl) our 4 dimensional universe ended up with the green pigments and the other 6 dimensional universe got the yellows. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:22:33 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Holiday greetings from Paradise Message-ID: <3A42D709.1080508@mars.ark.com> It's that time of year again, troops: Merry Christmas Joyeux Noël Fröhe Weihnachten Buon Natale Vesele Vanoce Priecigus Ziemassvetkus! Feliz Natal "Oh May Day Toe O' Gozaieemas" Maligayang Pasko God Jul Feliz Navidad Boas Festas Prettige Kerstdagen Felices Pascuasy Hyrää Joulua Any people whose languages I have missed are welcome to fill in the blanks... Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 23:28:56 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hotchkiss Gun Info Message-ID: In a message dated 12/21/00 7:11:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, MAnde72343@aol.com writes: << You're right, I should have checked the references, thI'd forgotten about the Benet, it was the gun in the Pancho Villa mess. However, I do not think the Marlin was a modification of the early Browning, the pictures I've seen are Vickers/Spandau looking with the big spring housing on the left side. Merrill >> dragging out St. Harry's Book of Armaments, it says the Marlin was a mod of the basic 1895 Colt and was purely developed as a stopgap till 'till enough Brownings were available, but was so good in its own right that orders overshadowed the Browning. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 23:36:22 -0500 From: "Patrick Haugh" To: Subject: Re: Holiday greetings from Paradise Message-ID: <000501c06bd0$bd535aa0$94072c42@computer> Failte Nollaig Patrick Haugh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:31:41 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Secret Handshake Message-ID: <001201c06bd0$3db1b580$28e879a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Thomas" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:12 PM Subject: Re: Secret Handshake > > > DAVID BURKE wrote: > > > Aha, shouda known you'd pull that one out. Heisenberg, on the other hand, > > would say that the cowl's color is totally unstable, as it could not > > possibly be observed in its natural state (by observing it, the observer > > affects it, and therefore the origin of the 'uncertainty principle'). Of > > course, if Schroedinger's cat were to pee on it.... > > Ah, but acording to Kaku's super string theory, it was originally chartreuse. > But when the 10(or 26) dimensional universe shattered , thus creating the big > bang,(triggered when the cat pee'd in a worm hole, which, incidently, was > actually located in the port side eye hole of said cowl) our 4 dimensional > universe ended up with the green pigments and the other 6 dimensional universe > got the yellows. > E. I stopped counting - which universe was that? How many superstring Voss cowls would fit on the head of a quantum pin? And shouldn't Carl Sagan and Carl Jung have their say too? DB ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2912 **********************