WWI Digest 2908 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: New 1/72nd kit by "Michael Kendix" 2) Re: New 1/72nd kit by "Matt Bittner" 3) Re: New 1/72nd kit by "Matt Bittner" 4) Oops! Sorry! by "Kenneth Zelnick" 5) RE: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) by Crawford Neil 6) RE: Holiday greetings from Paradise by Crawford Neil 7) RE: Flare pistols and "Can anyone hear me?" by "Graham Hunter" 8) Re: New 1/72nd kit by "Hans Trauner" 9) Re: New 1/72nd kit by "Michael Kendix" 10) Re: Holiday greetings from Paradise by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 11) RE: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) by "dfernet0" 12) Re: New 1/72nd kit by "Bob Pearson" 13) Re: Italian Voisins by "Alberto Casirati" 14) Re: New 1/72nd kit by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 15) RE: Italian Voisins by "dfernet0" 16) RE: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) by "Matt Bittner" 17) Re: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) by David Fleming 18) Re: New 1/72nd kit by David Fleming 19) Re: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) by "Matt Bittner" 20) RE: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) by lubos@vinar.cz 21) Resin for the Ages by "Lance Krieg" 22) Caproni Ca-3 kit? by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 23) Re: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) by David Fleming 24) Re: Resin for the Ages by David Fleming 25) Re: Resin for the Ages by Dennis Ugulano 26) Re: Resin for the Ages by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 27) Re:Resin Rot,was New 1/72nd kit by MAnde72343@aol.com 28) Re: Resin for the Ages by "DAVID BURKE" 29) Re: Re:Resin Rot,was New 1/72nd kit by "DAVID BURKE" 30) Re: Caproni Ca-3 kit? by Todd Hayes 31) Bellsouth failures, was Re: Flare pistols and "Can anyone hear me?" by Ernest Thomas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:45:08 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New 1/72nd kit Message-ID: >From: "Matt Bittner" >>The link to MGD on the VVS site is busted (don't know the technical >> >>term:) ). Dash it all, sorry, it's working now! Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 07:48:43 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: New 1/72nd kit Message-ID: <200012201349.FAA24226@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:45:15 -0500 (EST), Witold Kozakiewicz wrote: > Matt, could you send that link? http://www.russianscalemodels.com/mgd.asp Then click on M-Avia, then models (or something like that) then MBR and look at the box top posted. I was told about the C.I in their direct email. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 07:49:33 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: New 1/72nd kit Message-ID: <200012201350.FAA25845@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:47:40 -0500 (EST), Michael Kendix wrote: > The link to MGD on the VVS site is busted (don't know the technical term:) > ). Works from here using Netscape. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:16:55 -0600 From: "Kenneth Zelnick" To: Subject: Oops! Sorry! Message-ID: <000b01c06a8f$82347f40$8d2ab4d0@dell> Sorry about the HTML. I'm using my son's computer and forgot to change the settings. Ken Zelnick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:05:40 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) Message-ID: I agree about the Sopwith Triplane, its a lovely kit, but the DH2 isn't really worth the plastic it's moulded in. The only half-decent bits are the wings. The Fokker EIII and Morane are both outclassed by modern russian Kits. Even the good Fokker DrI is now outdated. I was told that the SE5 was good on the list quite recently. They are called "The collectors series" and I'm afraid that's all most of them are nowadays. In their day they were the best, and for that reason I still like them. Incidentally we were discussing the Spad XIII a few days ago, the Revell has lovely surface-detail (no fabric weave!) which the Accademy doesn't, so I agree with Steve that its better to try and scale the Revell down to 1/72 than to waste time on the Accademy kit. /Neil -----Original Message----- From: David Fleming [mailto:dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com] Sent: den 20 december 2000 00:11 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) Some they do, some they don't. The SPAD & Camel have been pretty frequent, as have the Nie 28, the DVII & the Dr1. The Morane N was around late 80's/early 90s. On the other hand, I can't recall the DH2, Sopwith Tripe, Nie 17, or SE5A, as having been released in the last 15 years. The Fokker E111 was discontinued about 1986. My choice for rerelease would be the DH2, Tripe and SE5a (Maybe the Nie 17). The Camel is still the best 1/72nd scale one ! DF ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:32:55 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Holiday greetings from Paradise Message-ID: Hi Tom and thanks for the movie tips, excuse my curiosity but have you been involved in any of the more famous films, in other words, ones I might have seen? I'm new on the list so I don't know. /Neil - >snip My only complaint about either of these movies is that they don't have the credit "Screenplay By Thomas McKelvey Cleaver." I sure would like to have been involved. And now I shall go back to enjoying the only good weather in the northern hemisphere. Most likely that will be subject to change. :-) Merry Christmas/Holiday greetings to all. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 09:39:32 -0600 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: Flare pistols and "Can anyone hear me?" Message-ID: <000001c06a9b$0cf91720$fa0101c0@grahamh> Darn right Dave has a load of OT goodies. We got to play with them as WWI reenactors at the Dayton Dawn Patrol this past fall. A Mercedes DIIIa engine, 7 Spandau MG's, ammo belt loader, a handful of flare pistols and even WWI era tools. In Tom Morgan's words "It was a Hoot" :-) Graham H. << I've come to the conclusion that you, Dave, are most likely > BTW Ernie I sent you an email awhile back and it came back as a failure notice. Is there anything special about your bellsouth address I need to know? GH. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:44:22 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: New 1/72nd kit Message-ID: <00b101c06aa4$1b164900$9ba172d4@custom-pc> Thanks for the link. There is a Bleriot XI from Eastern Express http://www.russianscalemodels.com/vie_mode.asp?id=1943 Ex-Frog / Ex-Novo? Does anybody out there knows any details? And: The Sikorsky S-XVI has been dropped from the Eastern Express List. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:42:27 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New 1/72nd kit Message-ID: >From: "Hans Trauner" >Thanks for the link. There is a Bleriot XI from Eastern Express > >http://www.russianscalemodels.com/vie_mode.asp?id=1943 > >Ex-Frog / Ex-Novo? Does anybody out there knows any details? Ex-something and not that great but for the price, it is fine. There have been some discussions on the list prior. > >And: The Sikorsky S-XVI has been dropped from the Eastern Express >List. But still readily available; e.g Rosemont Hobbies and NKR Models have it. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:39:07 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Holiday greetings from Paradise Message-ID: <67.d73cad5.277256cb@aol.com> In a message dated 12/20/00 10:34:51 AM EST, Neil.Crawford@volvo.com writes: << have you been involved in any of the more famous films, in other words, ones I might have seen? I'm new on the list so I don't know. /Neil >> The "better known" movies I was involved with I am contractually barred from mentioning, since my rewrites of the original writer didn't receive credit in the Writer's Guild's arbitrations for screen credit. Suffice it to say the producers and directors and actors who got to make the movie based on a script that made sense knew who did what, and the credit I did receive was the kind bank managers like. If you like little horror movies, I did one for Roger Corman that made more money for him than everything else he released that decade, which also is notable for the fact that everything on the page is on the screen, including the fact that the director caught my "shots" in the descriptions (no good writer ever tries to tell a director directly what to do there, but if your descriptions are good, sometimes they communicate), and the actors found the emotional hooks I put in the scenes for them to hang their performances on. The only drawback to the movie is that Roger took the director aside and told him he'd paid a lot of money for the monster and "I want to see it," so the monster is shown full-body much too soon. The movie is "The Terror Within." I don't think you'll find it in Blockbuster, but if you have the equivalent of our "Eddie Brand's Saturday Matinee" full of obscure videos, it might show up. I have no connection to "Terror Within II" other than it says "based on characters created by T.M. Cleaver" and I wish it didn't have that. :-) Cheers, TC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:24:10 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) Message-ID: <009101c06aba$6deec600$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > I agree about the Sopwith Triplane, its a lovely kit, but the > DH2 isn't really worth the plastic it's moulded in. I like it as a basis for a mostly-scratchbuilt model. The nacelle can be filed and filled for a crash moulded replacement. Since it's a fairly small model. it won't be as difficult as to work the Camel, for instance. > The Fokker EIII and Morane are both > outclassed by modern russian Kits. What? No EIII currently in production. The Eduard PE kit is beyond my patience and skills, the MAC E.IV is horrible and the ICM E.IV involves as much work as the ancient Revell to get an accurate model. On the Revell E.III I figure that the front section of the fuselage has to be replaced (not as much work as it seems, I guess) the wings sanded and the tail and undercarriage replaced and you will have a contest winner. Besides it can be used for a multitude of Fokker designs, not so with the uniquely elongated E.IV fuselage. > Even the good Fokker DrI is now outdated. Agreed. So it's the Morane after the Temeks (and not as good replacement as Eduard's). > I was told that the SE5 was good on the list quite recently. Much better than the Esci, I must admit. And with the new resin set from Rosemont, it'll be a great model with no work at all. Same comment goes for the Fokker D.VII and Nieuport 17, even when Matt may have his opinions about the latter. > They are called "The collectors series" and I'm afraid that's all most of > them are nowadays. Unfortunately I agree here too. They're far from current standards and even being good enough for a dedicated modeler, they're a loss if produced by a major outfit. Maybe if the masters were used by Roden or other cheap manufacturer, I'll be buying a lot. D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:20:28 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New 1/72nd kit Message-ID: <200012202134.NAA17025@mail.rapidnet.net> HR just did a resin HB C.I that will be reviewed in the next IM. There were many variants of the design by different contractors. Bob ---------- >From: "Michael Kendix" Weren't there a few different H-B C.1's? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 21:31:06 +0100 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: Re: Italian Voisins Message-ID: <000d01c06ac4$052f63e0$6c0b623e@s> Diego Fernetti wrote: > Tell us Alberto, if the wings were bleached linen, the small cockpit "carriage" was still > painted white or in a very light tan to match the wing colour? Thanks for your interest in Italian Voisins, Diego. Confining our analisys to the "light coloured" Voisins, contemporary pictures at my disposal seem to show a perfectly identical finish of both the wing and the nacelle coverings. As the latter was plywood covered, I suppose two alternatives are possible: - varnished plywood (less probable in my view); - plywood covered with bleached linen (a more common alternative AFAIK). To my present knowledge, there are no samples of Italian WW1 aircraft painted white, with the **possible** exception of a few Voisins. This is only an assumption, however, and I presently believe none of the Italian SIT-built Voisins were actually white. Finally, let me repeat here that I still have to study this subject in depth: my present comments are only based on a careful examination of contemporary pictures. When it will be the turn of the LAs I will of course deepen my study. All the very best, Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:35:35 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New 1/72nd kit Message-ID: <9a.dbfeb70.27727217@aol.com> We've had a bloody good run of OT injection molded kits in the manly over the last five to ten years. The Eduard well has been drying up a bit of late, but it seems it's now the turn of the munchkin scalers with half a dozen new kits, and new subjects to boot, discussed here in recent days. I speak as one who repeatedly churned out Revell and Airix OT's, and Aurora when I could get them, and eventually turned to scratch building because there was nothing else available.This is the golden age of OT modeling and don't let anybody tell you any different. Now excuse me, I'm offf to get my eyes tested;) cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:44:36 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Italian Voisins Message-ID: <00e601c06ac5$aa56f120$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Alberto wrote: > Thanks for your interest in Italian Voisins, Diego. Thanks for answering, then! How would I be not interested in such a strange-looking plane? It looks like a baby carriage with wings! > - plywood covered with bleached linen (a more common alternative AFAIK). I agree with you in this. Is it true that many wooden parts in OT airplanes were covered in fabric to avoid splitting? Why this would be relevant on other parts but for struts and propellers? > When it will be the turn of the LAs I will of course > deepen my study. Is the Voisin 3 just like the Voisin LA? How alike are the cockpits of the differen Voisin models? (I guess I have nice pictures of a Voisin VIII on a magazine) Too many questions, too much kits, to little time and money! Life is good, but complicated. D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:50:28 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) Message-ID: <200012202049.MAA01015@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:30:33 -0500 (EST), dfernet0 wrote: > Much better than the Esci, I must admit. And with the new resin set from > Rosemont, it'll be a great model with no work at all. Same comment goes for > the Fokker D.VII and Nieuport 17, even when Matt may have his opinions about > the latter. Who says I have opinions on the Revell Nie.17? Never have I ever expressed interest in that machine. :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 20:32:56 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) Message-ID: <3A411777.FFA1078F@dial.pipex.com> Crawford Neil wrote: > , but the > DH2 isn't really worth the plastic it's moulded in. The only > half-decent bits are the wings. true, the DH is easily outclassed by the Pegasus kit. > The Fokker EIII and Morane are both > outclassed by modern russian Kits. The Morane certainly (It was so inaccurate anyway), although I'm thinking on using the wings on a Temeks one to make a 'V'. I'm not so sure about the Fokker. Granted, the wings are too short, but I think you'd have an equal job building an E111 from it as the Mac or ICM kits. (Incidentally, I was perhaps a little hard on the latter. It's nt as bad a fokker as it is a Pfalz. I was just really wanting a Pfalz !!). Anyway, this will be academic when eduard release their E11 next year ! > Even the good Fokker DrI is now > outdated. I was told that the SE5 was good on the list quite recently. Opinion onthe SE seems divided -some think the Revell one is best, some the Entex/Eldon/ESCI one. I've got a few of the letter, they look OK. > > They are called "The collectors series" and I'm afraid that's all most of > them > are nowadays. In their day they were the best, and for that reason I > still like them. How many of us got started on these or the Airfix ones ? > Incidentally we were discussing the Spad XIII a few days > ago, the Revell has lovely surface-detail (no fabric weave!) which the > Accademy doesn't, so I agree with Steve that its better to try and > scale the Revell down to 1/72 than to waste time on the Accademy kit. We'll agree to differ on that one ! Personally, I abandoned both when I got a couple of Meikraft ones at a reasonable price, so maybe I shouldn't comment !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 20:38:19 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New 1/72nd kit Message-ID: <3A4118BA.6111D5F7@dial.pipex.com> LEONARDPeterL@aol.com wrote: > This is the golden age of OT modeling and don't let anybody tell you any > different. Too true. The only comparison would be the vacform explosion of the mid-late 80s. now we have resin, IJ moulded etc etc. I only wish some of the vacs were still around (Libra, Classic etc). On the subject of resin, I was reading a model railway mag today which talked about resin deteriorating over a period of time. Anyone got any resin models from 15 years ago can comment ?? DF ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:00:49 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) Message-ID: <200012202100.NAA11452@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:53:23 -0500 (EST), David Fleming wrote: > The Morane certainly (It was so inaccurate anyway), although I'm thinking on > using the wings on a Temeks one to make a 'V'. I'm not so sure about the Fokker. > Granted, the wings are too short, but I think you'd have an equal job building > an E111 from it as the Mac or ICM kits. (Incidentally, I was perhaps a little > hard on the latter. It's nt as bad a fokker as it is a Pfalz. I was just really > wanting a Pfalz !!). Anyway, this will be academic when eduard release their E11 > next year ! Hmmm...why couldn't you use the Temeks wings to build a Type V? They're a tad big anyway... > How many of us got started on these or the Airfix ones ? FWIW my first WW1 plastic kit was the Airfix D.Va. > We'll agree to differ on that one ! Personally, I abandoned both when I got a > couple of Meikraft ones at a reasonable price, so maybe I shouldn't comment !! Meikraft are definitely nice kits but require plenty of work. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 23:14:51 +0100 From: lubos@vinar.cz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) Message-ID: HR make Fokker A.III (will be reviewed in IM). I think, it's A-H version of E.III. It's very like to E.III and it's a nice resin. Best regards Lubos Vinar lubos@vinar.cz http://w3.inshop.cz/vamp "dfernet0" Odeslal: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu 20.12.2000 20:30 Odpovězte prosím uživateli wwi Komu: Multiple recipients of list Kopie: Předmět: RE: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) > The Fokker EIII and Morane are both > outclassed by modern russian Kits. What? No EIII currently in production. The Eduard PE kit is beyond my patience and skills, the MAC E.IV is horrible and the ICM E.IV involves as much work as the ancient Revell to get an accurate model. On the Revell E.III I figure that the front section of the fuselage has to be replaced (not as much work as it seems, I guess) the wings sanded and the tail and undercarriage replaced and you will have a contest winner. Besides it can be used for a multitude of Fokker designs, not so with the uniquely elongated E.IV fuselage. D. << ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:33:52 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Resin for the Ages Message-ID: Dave asks: "Anyone got any resin models from15 years ago can comment [on resin longevity]?" I have nothing that old, but am seeing some alarming symptoms in some of my home-cast pieces, both old and new. Sometimes the part begins to "sweat", lifting off any paint, and generally deteriorates. Maybe I wasn't careful enough in the proportions? And, of course, the two-part resin has a pretty short shelf-life... does this tendency to self-destruct continue once the ingredients are united? I hope not... I have been discouraged by the tendency of resin to warp and move with temperature or humidity changes, too. Any of you chemists got any encouraging words on the subject? Any really old examples still perfect after all these years? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:35:10 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Caproni Ca-3 kit? Message-ID: Hi All, Can anyone tell me what, if any, kit of this is available??? Preferably, 1/72 or 1/48th scale... Also, Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to ALL and your families!!!!!!!! Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 23:02:49 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Revell OT kits (Was Your (my) OT kit of the year) Message-ID: <3A413A98.3EA16290@dial.pipex.com> Matt Bittner wrote: > On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:53:23 -0500 (EST), David Fleming wrote: > > . Anyway, this will be academic when eduard release their E11 > > next year ! > Sorry, that's an E111 from Eduard. As for the Morane.. > > Hmmm...why couldn't you use the Temeks wings to build a Type V? > They're a tad big anyway... > Think so ? I'll need to recheck, but IIRC they matched the Datafile for an I pretty well. Oh well, just an idea. It would probably be as easy scratching them !! > > > How many of us got started on these or the Airfix ones ? > > FWIW my first WW1 plastic kit was the Airfix D.Va. > > Mine was the Airfix Pup. Second was a vacform......... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 23:08:02 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Resin for the Ages Message-ID: <3A413BD2.70D77397@dial.pipex.com> Lance Krieg wrote: > Dave asks: > > "Anyone got any resin models from15 years ago can comment [on resin longevity]?" > > I have nothing that old, but am seeing some alarming symptoms in some of my home-cast pieces, both old and new. Sometimes the part begins to "sweat", lifting off any paint, and generally deteriorates. Maybe I wasn't careful enough in the proportions? > This was mentioned in the railway article - the solution seems to be to use an extender, such as talc. > > And, of course, the two-part resin has a pretty short shelf-life... does this tendency to self-destruct continue once the ingredients are united? I hope not... > that's the theory..... > > I have been discouraged by the tendency of resin to warp and move with temperature or humidity changes, too. > > Any of you chemists got any encouraging words on the subject? Any really old examples still perfect after all these years? > I don't know if I still qualify as a chemist (12 years + since I did any 'proper' chem), but IIRC the problem is resin is in effect a slow moving liquid, and one of the 'problems' is tat any detail will eventually 'smooth out'. No doubt others can give us a bit more up to date. Added to that factors like not getting the mix exactly right.... Of course, there are different types of resin. David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:32:53 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Resin for the Ages Message-ID: <200012201933_MC2-BF65-DF5A@compuserve.com> >> "Anyone got any resin models from15 years ago can comment [on resin longevity]?" << I have a Austin Ball Fighter by Scaleplanes at least 12 years old. With the exception of sagging wings, I have not noticed any other problems with the kit. No paint peeling or sweating. It has been in a locked case all of its life but I don't know if that has any affect. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.nbci.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 10/8/00 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:56:10 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Resin for the Ages Message-ID: <8c.1e38e8.2772af2a@aol.com> I have two resin cast models that were assembled in 1989 and 1990 respectively that show no signs of deterioration. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 20:13:37 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re:Resin Rot,was New 1/72nd kit Message-ID: <28.ed58893.2772b341@aol.com> --part1_28.ed58893.2772b341_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My Waldo Bristol M1c is about four years old, and the wing started to droop after less than a year, and the rigging didn't help, the CA bonds gave up holding them. In 1/72, the wings on my Czech Dolphin (about 5 years old) have started to curve downward, despite rigging and double bay struts. I fear that both will be puddles in another 10 years. Merrill --part1_28.ed58893.2772b341_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My Waldo Bristol M1c is about four years old, and the wing started to droop
after less than a year, and the rigging didn't help, the CA bonds gave up
holding them. In 1/72, the wings on my Czech Dolphin (about 5 years old) have
started to curve downward, despite rigging and double bay struts. I fear that
both will be puddles in another 10 years.
Merrill  

--part1_28.ed58893.2772b341_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:24:47 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Resin for the Ages Message-ID: <002201c06aed$052cf640$09e679a5@com> > I have two resin cast models that were assembled in 1989 and 1990 > respectively that show no signs of deterioration. > > Tom Cleaver On the other hand, Tom has decayed significantly..... ;-) DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:26:13 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Re:Resin Rot,was New 1/72nd kit Message-ID: <002301c06aed$07461240$09e679a5@com> > > My Waldo Bristol M1c is about four years old, and the wing started to droop > after less than a year, and the rigging didn't help, the CA bonds gave up > holding them. Have you tried applying Viagra to the resin? DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 18:35:51 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Caproni Ca-3 kit? Message-ID: <20001221023551.62029.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> John, AJP Maquettes from France does a 1:48, all p.e. kit. Only about $180. Todd --- John_Impenna@hyperion.com wrote: > > Hi All, > Can anyone tell me what, if any, kit of this is > available??? Preferably, > 1/72 or 1/48th scale... > > Also, Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas & Happy New > Year to ALL and your > families!!!!!!!! > > Regards, > John > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 21:05:22 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: The List Subject: Bellsouth failures, was Re: Flare pistols and "Can anyone hear me?" Message-ID: <3A417371.9B1EEDB6@bellsouth.net> Graham Hunter wrote: > BTW Ernie I sent you an email awhile back and it came back as a failure > notice. Is there anything special about your bellsouth address I need to > know? I guess I should tell you that bellsouth is THE PREMIER email address for failures like me, which is why you got the failure notice. It wasn't a notice to say I didn't get the message, it was a warning that you were attempting to correspond with a complete and utter failure. :-) Really, I dunno. Did you put the 6 in between the ethomas and @bellso...? That would have done it. Anyway, I'm at ethomas6@belsouth.net if you want to send it again, or I guess post it to the list if it's not too off topic. I'll be on the lookout. E. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2908 **********************