WWI Digest 2874

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Dealing with unanswerable questions
	by Mark Vaughan-Jackson <mvj@thetelegram.com>
  2) Re: Dealing with unanswerable questions
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
  3) Re: "Curse You Red Baron!"
	by "John & Allison Cyganowski" <janah@worldnet.att.net>
  4) RE: "Curse You Red Baron!"
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
  5) RE: "Curse You Red Baron!"
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
  6) Re: prop logos
	by Mike Fletcher <mdf@mars.ark.com>
  7) Re: "Curse You Red Baron!"
	by "John & Allison Cyganowski" <janah@worldnet.att.net>
  8) RE: ot Southern Cross
	by "Ray Boorman" <Ray_Boorman@telus.net>
  9) Pfalz silbergrau
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 10) Re: Pfalz silbergrau
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
 11) Re: Pfalz silbergrau
	by "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@rapidnet.net>
 12) Tonight's the Night
	by "Graham Hunter" <ghunter@pangea.ca>
 13) RE: Prop logos
	by Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
 14) RE: Fokker Site
	by Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
 15) Re: prop logos
	by Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
 16) Roden Pfalz
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 17) Re: ot Southern Cross
	by Shane & Lorna Jenkins <sljenkins@tac.com.au>
 18) RE: Roden Pfalz
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 19) A little technical assistance, please
	by TomTheAeronut@aol.com
 20) Re: ot Southern Cross
	by "David C. Fletcher" <dcf@mars.ark.com>
 21) RE: Roden Pfalz
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 22) New Model Gallery
	by Allan Wright <aew>
 23) Vanted Wacs
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 24) Re: Fokker Site
	by Dave Watts <davew@wattstrainshop.com>
 25) Need some assistance
	by Steven M Perry <stevenperry@juno.com>
 26) Re: Need some assistance
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>

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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 09:54:18 -0400
From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson <mvj@thetelegram.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Dealing with unanswerable questions
Message-ID: <l03130304b653bc5064f3@[192.168.233.66]>

E opined:
>For me, the fun is making each model better than the last one. Doesn't always
>happen, but that's the general idea. What drives me buggy is when some color
>facist rationalizes his choice of colors, then declares to the world that
>so and
>so's (blank) was painted (blank), even though there's no conclusive proof that
>so and so's (blank) was actually painted that color. It's one thing to say "I
>painted mine (blank) for reasons X,Y,Z". It's a whole nother ball of hair when
>someone says,"VOSS's COWL WAS ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY, CHARTUESE!, AND I CAN
>PROVE IT". Until they come up with something better than an interpretation
>of an
>old b&w photo, it's just their opinion, which  is really nothing more than a
>best guess and should be presented as such. There's enough misinformation
>floating around history as it is. Let's not generate more.
>For the record, I try to find out what color something was;red, blue, green,
>brown, etc. I also try to determine if it was a light, or dark shade. After
>that, I grab whatever bottle of paint is; handy, close to the shade I think I
>want, and not dried up.
>The only thing I'll ever state as an 'absolute' is my uncertainty.
>My models may never be deemed worthy by the color facists, but that's fine
>with
>me. As long as I'm happy with it, nothing else matters.
>
>(converting the soapbox into a down-hill racer)
>E.

Which all basically boils down to what we know to be self-evident . .
.Dicta Ira!!

MVJ



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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 07:20:02 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Dealing with unanswerable questions
Message-ID: <3A2E3D02.11776542@bellsouth.net>



Shane & Lorna Jenkins wrote:

> "And that's just one small fraction of the main attraction" - excerpt
> from the new National Anthem, the one you have to lie down for ;-)

Oh Lorna, you certainly do have 'Wessonality'.
E.



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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 08:26:28 -0500
From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" <janah@worldnet.att.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: "Curse You Red Baron!"
Message-ID: <002001c05f88$24b66ca0$8f37183f@cyrixp166>

Buy an Albatros or a Halberstadt and I'll send you one for free! ;-)

Cyg.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 7:14 AM
Subject: RE: "Curse You Red Baron!"


> Hey any stamp-collectors out there? I'm not really, but I'd be willing
> to swap an envelope full of mixed (mainly swedish) stamps for an
> envelope with a Spad 16 on it. I have the Spad 13 stamp already,
> I suppose that's because it's the normal postage to Sweden.
> /Neil
> 
<snip>


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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 14:38:00 +0100 
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: "Curse You Red Baron!"
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A017D0809@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

Do you have any in 1/72?
/Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: John & Allison Cyganowski [mailto:janah@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: den 6 december 2000 14:36
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: "Curse You Red Baron!"


Buy an Albatros or a Halberstadt and I'll send you one for free! ;-)

Cyg.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 7:14 AM
Subject: RE: "Curse You Red Baron!"


> Hey any stamp-collectors out there? I'm not really, but I'd be willing
> to swap an envelope full of mixed (mainly swedish) stamps for an
> envelope with a Spad 16 on it. I have the Spad 13 stamp already,
> I suppose that's because it's the normal postage to Sweden.
> /Neil
> 
<snip>

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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 10:51:37 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: "Curse You Red Baron!"
Message-ID: <033601c05f8b$a7009520$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Cyg wrote:
> Buy an Albatros or a Halberstadt and I'll send you one for free! ;-)

Neil answered:
> Do you have any in 1/72?

Well done Neil! ROTFL
D.


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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 09:10:41 -0500
From: Mike Fletcher <mdf@mars.ark.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: prop logos
Message-ID: <3A2E48E1.3BDD6D82@mars.ark.com>

I have collected from various sources the following logos (with varying
levels of quality) if any are of use

  Beardmore
  Morane Saulnier (2)
  Nieuport
  Voisin
  Dux
  Russo-Baltic Wagon Works (Sikorsky)
  Russian Ski logo
  Pfalz
  SSW
  Fokker
  Elettro Ferroviarie(Italian blt Nieuports)
  Darraq
  Gnome
  Hispano-Suiza
  Salmson (2)

dfernet0 wrote:
> 
> Mike!
> Excellent idea. May I suggest a few more?
> Pfalz logo decals
> AVRO logo decals
> Sopwith logo decals
> Fokker logo decals
> Albatros logo decals
> 
> The decals from Americals sometimes have these images, but I always displace
> them or ruin the smaller items. A full sheet of logos will be great!
> Regards
> D.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Franklin <modelhound@earthlink.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 7:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Prop logos
> 
> > The propellers that I have documented and completed the artwork are:
> >
> > 1.  Garuda from the NASM Albatross Book
> > 2.  Nieuport 28 Helice Levasseur Brevete S.D.G.D. thanks to Lee Mensinger
> > 3.  LVG Niendorf Propellerwerke Luckenwalde thanks to Steve Cox
> >
> > I have not yet combed my Datafiles, Profiles or WW One Aero, but plan to
> do
> > so.  If anyone has any others, please contact me for details on what kind
> of
> > scan I would need.
> >
> > I am re-drawing all the art in Corel 8, vector based images for maximum
> > detail and clarity.
> >
> > Mike Franklin
> > Bellingham, WA USA
> 
> >

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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 08:55:12 -0500
From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" <janah@worldnet.att.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: "Curse You Red Baron!"
Message-ID: <000d01c05f8c$27e568a0$8f37183f@cyrixp166>

Sorry, to my knowledge the stamps come in only one size. ;-) Halberstadts
are in 1/48.  Albatri are 1/48 as well.

Cyg.
----- Original Message -----
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:42 AM
Subject: RE: "Curse You Red Baron!"


> Do you have any in 1/72?
> /Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John & Allison Cyganowski [mailto:janah@worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: den 6 december 2000 14:36
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: "Curse You Red Baron!"
>
>
> Buy an Albatros or a Halberstadt and I'll send you one for free! ;-)
>
> Cyg.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 7:14 AM
> Subject: RE: "Curse You Red Baron!"
>
>
> > Hey any stamp-collectors out there? I'm not really, but I'd be willing
> > to swap an envelope full of mixed (mainly swedish) stamps for an
> > envelope with a Spad 16 on it. I have the Spad 13 stamp already,
> > I suppose that's because it's the normal postage to Sweden.
> > /Neil
> >
> <snip>
>


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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 07:29:03 -0800
From: "Ray Boorman" <Ray_Boorman@telus.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: ot Southern Cross
Message-ID: <NEBBJGMJOLHELAKFFMJFMEAJCDAA.Ray_Boorman@telus.net>

I thought I might interject here, some Frog models by design were 1/96
scale. The Lancaster and I think one of the V Bombers are ones that come to
mind.

Frog did this with a few other models  as in odd scales. HMS Trafalgar was
1/450 for example.

Anyway the Southern Cross is most definately 1/72 scale. btw the way the
scales were published on the models so it was not by accident or anything
like that. I think whoever said the Southern Cross may have been thinking of
some of the other models.

Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of
Crawford Neil
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 2:58 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: RE: ot Southern Cross


OK it say's 1/72 on the box, but have you checked against drawings?
/Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: D Charles [mailto:charls@bit.net.au]
Sent: den 6 december 2000 11:53
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: ot Southern Cross





>Peter, I hope you mean the Frog Southern Cross. I'm keeping this
>on the list because I know at least one other listee is interested.
>It was on another much less trustworthy forum than this one that I
>read that the Fokker was incorrect for 1/72. Glad to hear I was wrong.
>Could you confirm.


The Chematic (ex-Frog?) Fokker F VIIB comes with  "Southern Cross" markings
and is in 1/72 scale.  I got a couple from NKR earlier this year.

David


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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 09:33:30 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Pfalz silbergrau
Message-ID: <200012061533.HAA27865@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

Has anybody who uses Polly Scale come up with a paint mix for
silbergrau?  TIA!


Matt Bittner



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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 16:27:16 
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Pfalz silbergrau
Message-ID: <F392om1joKIB5i5Qy2L0000fc31@hotmail.com>

>From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>

>Has anybody who uses Polly Scale come up with a paint mix for
>silbergrau?  TIA!

Not Polly Scale but acrylics. I used three parts Model Master's aluminum to 
one part Aero Master's U.S. Neutral Grey (FS 36270) for the MAC Pfalz 
D.IIIa.

Michael
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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 08:34:33 -0800
From: "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@rapidnet.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Pfalz silbergrau
Message-ID: <200012061747.JAA32671@mail.rapidnet.net>

Gee Matt, have you checked the FAQ? Surely it should be in there by now :-)

----------
>From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
>Subject: Re: Pfalz silbergrau
>Date: Wed, Dec 6, 2000, 8:31 am
>

>>From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
>
>>Has anybody who uses Polly Scale come up with a paint mix for
>>silbergrau?  TIA!
>
> Not Polly Scale but acrylics. I used three parts Model Master's aluminum to
> one part Aero Master's U.S. Neutral Grey (FS 36270) for the MAC Pfalz
> D.IIIa.
>
> Michael
>
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 10:35:53 -0600
From: "Graham Hunter" <ghunter@pangea.ca>
To: "WWI List (E-mail)" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Tonight's the Night
Message-ID: <000301c05fa2$9a9e9a40$fa0101c0@grahamh>

TTN I finally finish my Spin Models Bristol M1.c. I will be taking photos of
it this weekend so pictures will be available early next week on the site.

For those of you who have seen Tom Morgan's work in the latest Wind Sock, we
will also be photoing his Morane Saulnier, Fokker E.V, and the Halberstadt.
So Matt, be prepared for a bombardment of photos next week.

Regards, Graham H.


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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 09:20:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: RE: Prop logos
Message-ID: <20001206172040.47947.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com>

Gaston,

Fortunately, Axial prop logos are very common.  

Todd

--- Gaston Graf <ggraf@vo.lu> wrote:
> Mike,
> 
> what about AXIAL props? They was used on Fokker
> Dr.1s. I can provide you a
> scan of the Logo as well as a drawing of the
> propeller in 1/48 or 1/72. Nice
> idea to do that in Corel. I had the idea months ago
> but have no time to make
> it real so I am glad to see somebody else is willing
> to do it ;o).
> 
> btw: Do you have website?
> 
> sincerely
> 
>  Gaston Graf
> (ggraf@vo.lu)
> Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke"
> at:
> http://www.jastaboelcke.de
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
> [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of
> > Mike Franklin
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 11:55 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > Subject: Re: Prop logos
> >
> >
> > The propellers that I have documented and
> completed the artwork are:
> >
> > 1.  Garuda from the NASM Albatross Book
> > 2.  Nieuport 28 Helice Levasseur Brevete S.D.G.D.
> thanks to Lee Mensinger
> > 3.  LVG Niendorf Propellerwerke Luckenwalde thanks
> to Steve Cox
> >
> > I have not yet combed my Datafiles, Profiles or WW
> One Aero, but
> > plan to do
> > so.  If anyone has any others, please contact me
> for details on
> > what kind of
> > scan I would need.
> >
> > I am re-drawing all the art in Corel 8, vector
> based images for maximum
> > detail and clarity.
> >
> > Mike Franklin
> > Bellingham, WA USA
> >
> > "No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed
> limit"
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Knut Erik Hagen <knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no>
> > To: Multiple recipients of list
> <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 3:04 PM
> > Subject: Prop logos - was louvres
> >
> >
> > > Mike and others,
> > >
> > > Could you make available a list of prop logos
> you have documented?
> > >
> > > The local museums here in Norway exhibit quite a
> few WW1 propellers
> > > of British and German origin, and some of the
> original logo decals
> > > have survived in good condition and I might do
> photos/scans.
> > >
> > >                 Eders
> > >               Knut Erik
> >
> >
> >
> 


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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 09:40:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: RE: Fokker Site
Message-ID: <20001206174018.96818.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com>

Gaston,

One of the featured items this month on the Fokker
site is a photo special on the Bosch magneto and
starter system.

Todd

--- Gaston Graf <ggraf@vo.lu> wrote:
> Thanks for the links, Diego. I will add them to my
> website as soon as I will
> create a Link section for modeling.
> 
>  Gaston Graf
> (ggraf@vo.lu)
> Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke"
> at:
> http://www.jastaboelcke.de
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
> [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of
> > dfernet0
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 12:02 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > Subject: RE: Fokker Site
> >
> >
> > Links for fokker in my webpage
> http://ww1stuff.freeservers.com
> >
> >
>
http://www.collectors-edition.com/f-t-s_titel_english.htm
> that's the one
> > mentioned by Todd
> >
> >
>
http://members.tripod.com/~Hans_Vossers/d7html/d7index.htm
> Just
> > the D.VIIs!
> >
> > http://www.wolfpackinc.com/fokker1.htm  Just
> triplanes!
> >
> > Anyway, check all the links from my pages, they're
> quite better
> > than my own
> > pages...
> > D.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
> > To: Multiple recipients of list
> <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 2:13 AM
> > Subject: Fokker Site
> >
> >
> > > Did anyone check out the Fokker Site posted by
> Diego a
> > > couple of weeks ago?  It's a real gem. 
> Downloads are
> > > available of construction plans, and detailed
> graphics
> > > of instruments.
> > >
> > > TH
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> 


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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 09:36:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: prop logos
Message-ID: <20001206173634.71634.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com>

One of the Americals sheets has Lang prop logos
(Sopwiths) on them and Integral props (early DH2, Spad
A.2/4, etc.).  I'll look them up.  I also have a book
on Fokkers that has some good photos of various props.
 Some of the logos are very difficult to make out.

Todd

--- Mike Fletcher <mdf@mars.ark.com> wrote:
> I have collected from various sources the following
> logos (with varying
> levels of quality) if any are of use
> 
>   Beardmore
>   Morane Saulnier (2)
>   Nieuport
>   Voisin
>   Dux
>   Russo-Baltic Wagon Works (Sikorsky)
>   Russian Ski logo
>   Pfalz
>   SSW
>   Fokker
>   Elettro Ferroviarie(Italian blt Nieuports)
>   Darraq
>   Gnome
>   Hispano-Suiza
>   Salmson (2)
> 
> dfernet0 wrote:
> > 
> > Mike!
> > Excellent idea. May I suggest a few more?
> > Pfalz logo decals
> > AVRO logo decals
> > Sopwith logo decals
> > Fokker logo decals
> > Albatros logo decals
> > 
> > The decals from Americals sometimes have these
> images, but I always displace
> > them or ruin the smaller items. A full sheet of
> logos will be great!
> > Regards
> > D.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike Franklin <modelhound@earthlink.net>
> > To: Multiple recipients of list
> <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 7:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: Prop logos
> > 
> > > The propellers that I have documented and
> completed the artwork are:
> > >
> > > 1.  Garuda from the NASM Albatross Book
> > > 2.  Nieuport 28 Helice Levasseur Brevete
> S.D.G.D. thanks to Lee Mensinger
> > > 3.  LVG Niendorf Propellerwerke Luckenwalde
> thanks to Steve Cox
> > >
> > > I have not yet combed my Datafiles, Profiles or
> WW One Aero, but plan to
> > do
> > > so.  If anyone has any others, please contact me
> for details on what kind
> > of
> > > scan I would need.
> > >
> > > I am re-drawing all the art in Corel 8, vector
> based images for maximum
> > > detail and clarity.
> > >
> > > Mike Franklin
> > > Bellingham, WA USA
> > 
> > >


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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 12:04:54 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Roden Pfalz
Message-ID: <200012061804.KAA25240@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

Just picked up a Roden Pfalz, after I told myself I wouldn't since I
have four or five Meikraft kits.  Now I'm glad I did.  Roden *is*
listening to us.  *No* fabric effect, molds are pretty clean and it
appears to be very nice.  I haven't spec'ed it out yet, so I'm not sure
how accurate it is, but I think someone else on the list has and I
think they said it is accurate.  The only downside is the "rounded
tips" wing has a little bit of surface flaws that need to be removed. 
Not a big deal.  In addition, the underside ribs are very slightly
*recessed*.  Wow!

So far this is definitely *the best* Roden/Toko release.  I dare say
almost buildable out of the box...


Matt Bittner



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Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:58:55 +1100
From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins <sljenkins@tac.com.au>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: ot Southern Cross
Message-ID: <3A2E704F.3811B7DB@tac.com.au>

Crawford Neil wrote:
> 
> OK it say's 1/72 on the box, but have you checked against drawings?
> /Neil

 Hi,

 For those who may be interested, I have a small text file on modelling
the Southern Cross. This was taken from a talk by Lindsay Charmann at an
APMA meeting several years ago.

 Regards,

 Shane
 APMA VP
 http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm
 Having FUN making models

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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:10:17 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Roden Pfalz
Message-ID: <004301c05faf$ca1eb720$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

> I dare say
> almost buildable out of the box...

Heretic!
D.


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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:20:32 EST
From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: A little technical assistance, please
Message-ID: <67.cb8973b.275fdd70@aol.com>

I am in need of replacing my current Internet Exploder software, so I can do 
some website development on the Aeronut.  (it didn't transfer right from the 
old to the new hard drive)

For some reason, the Microsquash site can't download the exploder to my 
computer, and when I go to order their CD, I get a blank page.  (typical 
"user friendly" customer support from the s.o.b.s who would invent something 
as user-friendly as DOS)

Anyway, would someone with the ability to burn a CD (who is using a PC) be 
willing to burn me a copy of Internet Exploder 5?  I'll be happy to pick up 
the cost of the CD.

Contact me off-list, and thanks in advance!

Tom Cleaver

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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 10:20:30 -0800
From: "David C. Fletcher" <dcf@mars.ark.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: ot Southern Cross
Message-ID: <3A2E836E.5D4B5EA1@mars.ark.com>

Ray Boorman wrote:

"I thought I might interject here, some Frog models by design were 1/96
 scale. The Lancaster and I think one of the V Bombers are ones that
come to
 mind."  The Britannia and the VC-10 (the one with the fibreoptic
lighting...) were 1/96th.  The V-bombers I know of in this scale were
Lindberg.

"Anyway the Southern Cross is most definately 1/72 scale..."  And quite
a nice kit.  I built it back in the 'first issue' days.  The remains are
still in the parts box.  In my case, movers have been far worse
kit-wreckers than my wife...

Dave Fletcher
-- 
Visit us at our Home Page:
<http://mars.ark.com/~dcf/>

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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 12:33:49 -0600
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Roden Pfalz
Message-ID: <200012061833.KAA18343@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

On Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:17:03 -0500 (EST), dfernet0 wrote:

> > I dare say
> > almost buildable out of the box...
> 
> Heretic!

No, I did have the word "almost" in there... :-)


Matt Bittner



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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 14:06:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi
Subject: New Model Gallery
Message-ID: <200012061906.OAA14491@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

Hello all - I just added a new model gallery to the website for
list member Marc Flake. Enjoy.

-Allan

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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 16:38:20 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Vanted Wacs
Message-ID: <00f101c05fbc$16ce8ee0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

hi!
Anyone have have the following kits in 1/72 and is inclined to sell or swap
them?:
- Libramodels or Scaleplanes DH5
- Libramodels FE8
- Formaplane FE2b

contact me off list please!
Regards
D.
victim of a sudden lust for plastic


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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 15:00:01 -0500
From: Dave Watts <davew@wattstrainshop.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Fokker Site
Message-ID: <200012062004.OAA02033@linux.wpds.net>

If this is Achim's web site, be very careful about all of the information
being exactly correct.  I took him to task about the fuel gauge, and a few
other points as well.  BUT....in general, what he is doing is fantastic and
my hat is off to him.  Also, the only way to get the information corrected
is to put it out there.  Achim gets a free round for the house on me for
his efforts!

Best,
Dave Watts 

At 12:13 AM 12/6/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Did anyone check out the Fokker Site posted by Diego a
>couple of weeks ago?  It's a real gem.  Downloads are
>available of construction plans, and detailed graphics
>of instruments.  
>
>TH
>
>
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:22:49 -0500
From: Steven M Perry <stevenperry@juno.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Need some assistance
Message-ID: <20001206.152256.-4046699.1.stevenperry@juno.com>

I'm having computer problems and need some assistance.

Can someone e-mail me a copy of the List FAQ page. I am in digest mode
here and don't have web access, so I need the instructions to change from
digest to loose mail

Please send to this Juno address 

Thanks for your help
sp
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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:05:09 
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Need some assistance
Message-ID: <F57b98KtdhQYZkxOjmf0001024a@hotmail.com>

It's done

>From: Steven M Perry <stevenperry@juno.com>
>Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
>To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
>Subject: Need some assistance
>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:23:48 -0500 (EST)
>
>I'm having computer problems and need some assistance.
>
>Can someone e-mail me a copy of the List FAQ page. I am in digest mode
>here and don't have web access, so I need the instructions to change from
>digest to loose mail
>
>Please send to this Juno address
>
>Thanks for your help
>sp
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