WWI Digest 2871 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: photographic musings by "DAVID BURKE" 2) JMGT Resin by "DAVID BURKE" 3) Re: Dealing with unanswerable questions by "DAVID BURKE" 4) Re: JMGT Resin by "Ken Acosta" 5) Re: Spouses and Models by "Ken Acosta" 6) Psyched by "Matt Bittner" 7) photographic musings by knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 8) Re: Psyched by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 9) Re: Psyched by "Brad & Merville" 10) Re: Psyched by "Dale Sebring" 11) Re: WWI digest 2869 by JVT7532@aol.com 12) RE: photographic musings by "Graham Hunter" 13) Albatros Axle attachment? by JVT7532@aol.com 14) Re: photographic musings by smperry@mindspring.com 15) Spoils of war! by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 16) Bristol wings answer! by JVT7532@aol.com 17) RE: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) by "Gaston Graf" 18) Re: do you still remember... by "Tom Solinski" 19) Re: Prop logos by "Mike Franklin" 20) OT - Air Force Magazine, Dec 00 by "Kenneth Hagerup" 21) Re: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 22) Re: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) by "DAVID BURKE" 23) Re: Prop logos by "DAVID BURKE" 24) Re: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) by "DAVID BURKE" 25) Re: Spouses and Models by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 26) Re: Dealing with unanswerable questions by Ernest Thomas 27) Re: Spouses and Models by Ernest Thomas 28) Re: Dealing with unanswerable questions by "DAVID BURKE" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:46:33 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: photographic musings Message-ID: <004a01c05ed3$1c3946c0$fee979a5@com> Nice to see that I'm not the only one to stir up the cesspool! DB :-) > Oh Sure! Touch off a fire fight why don't you. :-) > > Still counting the holes, > Cyg. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:55:10 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: JMGT Resin Message-ID: <004f01c05ed3$c0a31ec0$fee979a5@com> Well... My SPAD VII is nearly done but for the rigging and touch up. I want to pass on the caveat that TC gave me - and present it for those looking to build one of thesee beauties: JMGT resin is like no other resin I have ever used. It is near to porcelain in its brittleness. Great detail, but if you are not ready for the possibility of seeing a piece shatter when dropped, find other game to pursue! All in all, I had fun with it. Thanks Ken! DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:56:35 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Dealing with unanswerable questions Message-ID: <005501c05ed3$f2fc3820$fee979a5@com> sp said: > Personally I respect, (without necessarally subscribing to), any choice that > is based on a process as a valid interpertation. Which, as these events fade > from living memory, is all we have anyway. > > sp I just like the way the glue smells! DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 10:01:25 -0600 From: "Ken Acosta" To: , Subject: Re: JMGT Resin Message-ID: Glad it went to a good home. It came to life on your workbench years sooner than it would have on mine. Pics when done? KA >>> dora9@sprynet.com 12/05/00 09:59AM >>> Well... My SPAD VII is nearly done but for the rigging and touch up. I want to pass on the caveat that TC gave me - and present it for those looking to build one of thesee beauties: JMGT resin is like no other resin I have ever used. It is near to porcelain in its brittleness. Great detail, but if you are not ready for the possibility of seeing a piece shatter when dropped, find other game to pursue! All in all, I had fun with it. Thanks Ken! DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 10:11:10 -0600 From: "Ken Acosta" To: Subject: Re: Spouses and Models Message-ID: Brent- My sympathies. After only two and a half years of marriage, my wife has accepted the fact that modeling will always be my favorite hobby. I've given up woodworking, R/C models, photography, private flying, and much of my reading (all of which I dearly love), but I MUST have a couple of hours each week for my styrene fix. Just last week I finally completed an ot kit that I had been working on for the better part of five years. She knew how long the project had been underway and how much time/effort I had devoted to it. I dare say that she was nearly as proud as I with the final result. She wants me to make or buy a display case for it so it's protected until the next Huntsville contest. My wife has no interest herself in models, but she respects my interest (obsession?) and is enthusiastic for me when I conquer the latest building hurdle. Her accomodation goes so far as to grant me the use of a room in our house just for my models (she calls it my "toy room"). To keep things in perspective, I'm acutely aware on a daily basis of how wonderful the setup is, mainly because I know much of it will go away when we make a baby or two. To this fledgling husband, the secret seems to be this: spend time each day paying attention to her, then she'll be much more encouraging of the other things that interest me. It probably helps that I do 90% of the cooking and half the cleaning around here too. Not preaching, just sharing what seems to work for me. KA >>> btheobal@sta.samsung.com 12/05/00 09:24AM >>> Howdy folks, Do any you ever think the better half is out to get your models? (SP may abstain from this thread for obvious reasons.) Sunday my wife was busily dusting the room. Whenever she does this I know to move models out of her way. I moved the Albatros to the recently dusted piano. I swear I turned my back for a moment and WHAM! she knocked it off the piano. The good news is only a landing gear strut and the tail skid came off. I no sooner recover from this when I see my ot B-29 hanging off the speaker where it resides. She says "Oh! Did I do that?" Hah! That innocent BS doesn't work on me anymore. At least not as much as it used to. Anyhow, that model would not survive a fall from such a height. Too much ballast in the nose. Luckily I was able to return her, the B-29 that is, to her proper location. Lastly, adding insult to injury my Albatros was vandalised again while waiting for repairs. I laid the wounded bird, landing gear pointing up, on my workbench. I put a clean rag underneath to protect the lozenged wing. The parts to be re-attached were also placed on the rag. Apparently someone needed a rag. Because I return later and the rag and parts are missing. Of course nobody knows anything. Grrrr! My next house will have a model room, with a door and a lock! I might never come out. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 10:18:34 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Psyched Message-ID: <200012051618.IAA23073@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Well, a rest is definitely good for the soul. After two off topic aircraft, one off topic tank and one on topic armored car, I'm refreshed and well under way into the Roseplane Hanriot HD.3. After the Fokker Dr.I I finished a few months ago I became burned out on the bipes. And I have a lot of in progress ones to prove it. :-) So, now that I have taken time "off" from them, the HD.3 is progressing at a very decent pace. FWIW... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:50:54 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: photographic musings Message-ID: <200012051650.RAA43209@mail-relay.eunet.no> Stefen & Shane and others, You have some interesting views regarding the availability of film etc. I would like to add to this discussion, my backround include cataloguing some 1000 original negatives from the Norwegian Naval Air Arm. There were only glass negatives in use well into the late twenties, and I found good quality negatives taken from small craft at sea! Think there was a major difference between what was available in the US and Europe well into WW2, I am surprised by the quantity and quality of colour film available to Norwegian sailors who spent had money to spend while being over there at the same time as official photos from the UK are few and of lesser quality. Returning to WW1, I am tempted to divide the photos into three groups: Factory or propaganda photo opportunities organized for instance by the Fokker factory or the Ministry of War. Here the best available equipment for making pictures used by experienced people and carefully posed people and equipment taking advantage of light. Most likely glass plates and available as postcards and in official books. Captions may not be correct as you don`t expect the Red Baron to bring his own triplane, you find a good looking one at the factory. Negatives/plates should be in official collections or with companies Organized photos taken near the frontline, sometimes by photographers who offered their services in a village. At least in Norway there were quite a few traveling photographers who went from village to village with their cameras. They were used to operate under very basic conditions and still achiving excellent results. I have recently seen some large prints made from glass plates taken just before WW1 and the quality more than just impressive, the depth of field and clearity beats my Nikon F100. Observation squastas were issued with cameras to photograph trenches, it is unlikely that the equipment wasn`t used for other purposes, you can put it down as training. Does someone know if processing and production of prints took place at squasta or staff level? Think at least British units used glass plates during most of the war. Sometimes prints may have been made available to members of the unit, and will show up in numerous albums, captions here might be quite good. Quality should be reasonable, some might be in official collections while others residing on a loft gathering dust... Personal cameras, they might be the ones taken all the way to the front, probably lightweight and used without official permission. Here the likely option is rolls of film, easy to bring with you or send with mail to/from home. Quality of negatives and prints might be good to poor, residing with private persons. Prints may have been swapped, but most can be considered unique. I do not know the price of a simple camera during WW1, but I think it was out of reach for most soldiers, might have been a luxury item even for most officers. This is of interest to all who try to find answers by looking at prints, and especially if you are asked to help cataloguing a collection. I welcome a discussion on this, could be a theme for an article in C&C? Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 12:08:46 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Psyched Message-ID: <23.4788e07.275e7b1e@aol.com> In a message dated 12/5/00 11:21:12 AM EST, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: << After the Fokker Dr.I I finished a few months ago I became burned out on the bipes. And I have a lot of in progress ones to prove it. :-) >> Nice to know that even The Great Bittner faces this - makes my problem seem "normal." After lasat Spring/summer doubling the OT collection, I did slow way down on OT, to the point that I cleaned up/did all the preliminaries on the Aeroclub B.E. and put it aside along with four other OTs in various stages. Looking forward to getting them going again over the holidays. TC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 12:37:27 -0500 From: "Brad & Merville" To: Subject: Re: Psyched Message-ID: <000b01c05ee2$09dd6ce0$a1885ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> Matt wrote: "After the Fokker Dr.I I finished a few months ago I became burned out on the bipes." Must'a been that extra wing! ;^) I'm just jealous of Matt's (and everyone elses) productivity in general. Brad nb: Modelling vicariously through the rest of you. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 11:22 AM Subject: Psyched >Well, a rest is definitely good for the soul. After two off topic >aircraft, one off topic tank and one on topic armored car, I'm >refreshed and well under way into the Roseplane Hanriot HD.3. After >the Fokker Dr.I I finished a few months ago I became burned out on the >bipes. And I have a lot of in progress ones to prove it. :-) So, now >that I have taken time "off" from them, the HD.3 is progressing at a >very decent pace. > >FWIW... > > >Matt Bittner > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:43:23 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: Psyched Message-ID: <001f01c05ee2$deb81640$68b58dd0@main> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 9:23 AM Subject: Psyched Matt said: > Well, a rest is definitely good for the soul. You are correct about a little ot or diversity to refresh ones soul. Somtimes we get in ruts....for me they're more kild a ditch. BTW, I sure liked your Mosca! Dale ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 12:49:41 EST From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI digest 2869 Message-ID: <51.44d33a6.275e84b5@aol.com> In a message dated 12/5/2000 12:32:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: << Hi Jon, I have a close up picture from the DF on the DV that shows how the bungee was attached to the strut. It seems that it was wrapped around a pair of pegs welded to the strut, one front, one back. If I can find my DF I'll be happy to scan the photo. I think the DIII was exactly the same. Gabe. >> Thanks Gabe that sounds just like what I need to finish up the Landing gear on my Albatros, I have looked all through my material and at all the photo's on the WWl site but could make out nothing that would help me. It just did not seem right to just glue this piece in place without the proper looking bindings that held it in place as it's shown in the Eduard directions. Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 12:00:48 -0600 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: photographic musings Message-ID: <000001c05ee5$4d20f0a0$fa0101c0@grahamh> I welcome a discussion on this, could be a theme for an article in C&C? Eders Knut Erik In the book Barker VC it mentions that barker had a "pocket" camera in which he took pictures of things he found interesting (mostly when on leave in some European village). Again there is mention that it was frowned upon by the British Empire to photo anything military in nature. Regards, Graham H. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 13:10:07 EST From: JVT7532@aol.com To: albatros1212@altavista.com Subject: Albatros Axle attachment? Message-ID: Mark, I would be happy to see anything you have on this attachment as I have virtually nothing that really shows this area which would provide the help I need to model this attachment. Just wondering how did the rest of the list members who completed their cook-up's model this area? To just glue the axle in place as shown in the Eduard directions seems totally wrong. Thanks again Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 13:57:18 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: photographic musings Message-ID: <000701c05eed$31adaea0$a3f1aec7@default> > I do not know the price of a simple camera during WW1, but I think it > was out of reach for most soldiers, might have been a luxury item > even for most officers. My Grandfather took a Kodak camera to France in 1918 as a PFC. It uses 127 roll film, has no lens, but does have a shutter and a primative adjustable apeture. There is a prism for a viewfinder and the apeture end folds out on bellows like an old Polaroid. There is a little lid on the back that can be lifted and a metal stylus in a clip for scratching words between frames through the paper backing. I took some decent snapshots with it before the shutter broke. Unfortunately any photos he took "over there" have been lost ;-(. I expect an awful lot more American troops had cameras than did European ones. Years of trench warfare would have left one with more things to forget than to remember and a set of priorities that didn't include photography as a hobby. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 15:40:04 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Spoils of war! Message-ID: Man I love working at a newspaper. The books editor just got a review copy in of Knights of the Air: Canadian Fighter Pilots of the First World War, by Lt-Col. David Bashow. I nearly ruptured myself leaping, gazelle-like over the desk to lay claim to the spoils. Actually she gave it to me. . .myself and a photographer are the big aircraft nuts and we take it in turns swiping the books. It was my turn and I'm delighted. Will have a thumb through and post some thoughts. Initial scan: mix of old photos (some very familiar some not) colour photos of reproduction and/or preserved planes and loads of sketches, paintings and drawings in B&W and colour. 'scuse me, must go and chortle over the book while I wait for The Tragically Hip to call for a phone interview (they're late) MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 15:30:56 EST From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Bristol wings answer! Message-ID: <71.8e52045.275eaa80@aol.com> Just to be fair to Chris Gannon, I did receive an email from him on the 3rd. here's the contents. Best regards, Jon Dear Jon, Your Bristol wings are being dealt with this month, did you get my last e-mail after your 3rd. agitated message? Regards. Chris. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:55:11 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) Message-ID: Hey DeeBee, to answer your questions: > > Aaaaaaahhh! Evil! Why? She has a beautiful voice and some beautiful songs - what's wrong with that? I didn't say I want to marry her. > > >, Doro Pesch, Enya, > > Enya! How do you stay awake? Did you ever read J.R.R. Tolkiens "Lord of the Rings"? I read it at the time Enya came out with a song called "Caribbean Blue" - I bought the album and was fascinated because her voice sounded very much to me how Tolkien described the beautiful clear voice of the Elves Queen Galadriel. Also I love the celtic songs of Enya sometimes. But as I said alrady, I am always getting back to Metal cause Metal is the fuel that keeps my pour soul burning. The other kind of music I do sometimes listen to as well, depending on the mood I'm in. It may happen that I keep Glenn Millers music together with Metallica CDs in my CD charger in the car and switch from Metal to Brass. I love Glenn Millers music as much as I love Louis Armstrong and Ella Fitzgerald. > > > Loreena McKennit and sometimes Madonna. > > Eeicchh!! You forgot to mention Streisand! Nope! The longnose lady is not a real musician but an actor who tried to sing. I wonder if you ever heard a song of Loreena McKennit - it's perfect to underline a cold winter days mood where you sit at home, sipping on a cup of coffee or tea, eating some cookies, while you read a good book or enjoy modeling or something else that makes fun.... Again it's not the music for every day of my life but it's perfect for some days. Also such relaxing music is perfect for me when travelling in my car together with the family because it is relaxing. When I drive alone I do always have the sound volume set to maximum because Metal must be loud. As for Madonna - well she made some brilliant Pop-songs. What I admire of that woman is that she showed the puritanical society how independant a woman can be from the males. She goes her own way, that's what counts! If you're a metal fan, why > didn't you mention Wendy O. Williams? I'm sorry but I do not know that lady yet. I bet you don't know Doro either. Or Lita Ford? To commercial poplike wannabe Metal - IMHO Rock > Goddess? Don't know her either but the name sounds already kitschy enough to avoid the music - IHMO If you > REALLY like the women of metal, why didn't you mention Bon Jovi > or David Lee > Roth? :-) Buaaaahhhh-hua-hua-hua-hua..... did we now talk about METAL or did we talk about teenieweenie diaper music??? Come on dude - that's for the kids! Even my oldest dauther who is only 8 hates that kind of screaming. She prefers many Metallica songs, The Cranberries and the latest CD from Iron Maiden instead. Even the baby (who is now 13 months) rocks and sings when I play her the beautiful song called "nothing else matters"... Oh and if somebody now asks what this all has got to do with modeling.... Well, music can be the perfect background for modeling, that's why DeeBee and GeeGee try to find the right songs to bring them the inspiration they need for their work ;o). I love to build WWII aircraft when Glenn Miller plays in my ears. Still need a CD with OT German marches for WWI aircraft modeling. Tschingderassa-Bumsvallera! > > Personally, since my head is hanging around two World Wars, I sorta like > Edith Piaf, Marlene Dietrich, Vera Lynn, and alot of those 'annoying songs > with the word "whoops" in the title' (a la Black Adder). Nothing > like Edith > Piaf in the background to really get into those SPADs! The Piaf has got as much to do with a Spad as a cow has got to do with an egg. You must understand French to understand the Piaf, did you know that?. I am no real fan of such music but I must confess that I sometimes love to hear her songs. Same counts for Jaques Brel, a Belgian songwriter and singer, or Reinhard Mey a German "songmaker" (a term created in the ugliest decade of the past century - the seventies). ...it doesn't matter what you say, in my words you are a sinner. For every word you say to me, in every way you are a sinner. (Iced Earth - from "Burning Times", album "Something wicked this way comes" http://www.icedearth.com) happy modeling, DeeBee ;o) Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:01:05 -0600 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: do you still remember... Message-ID: <000c01c05f06$ddcfcec0$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> Actually, since I had been frequently flying riding around with Dad since I was 6 months old a little of it rubbed off. Tom the bird brain ----- Original Message ----- > Now we have proof that Solinsky really is a bird-brain, since only a bird > could do that! :-) > > TC > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 14:50:46 -0800 From: "Mike Franklin" To: Subject: Re: Prop logos Message-ID: <000001c05f0d$e9681560$feecfc9e@picker> The propellers that I have documented and completed the artwork are: 1. Garuda from the NASM Albatross Book 2. Nieuport 28 Helice Levasseur Brevete S.D.G.D. thanks to Lee Mensinger 3. LVG Niendorf Propellerwerke Luckenwalde thanks to Steve Cox I have not yet combed my Datafiles, Profiles or WW One Aero, but plan to do so. If anyone has any others, please contact me for details on what kind of scan I would need. I am re-drawing all the art in Corel 8, vector based images for maximum detail and clarity. Mike Franklin Bellingham, WA USA "No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit" ----- Original Message ----- From: Knut Erik Hagen To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 3:04 PM Subject: Prop logos - was louvres > Mike and others, > > Could you make available a list of prop logos you have documented? > > The local museums here in Norway exhibit quite a few WW1 propellers > of British and German origin, and some of the original logo decals > have survived in good condition and I might do photos/scans. > > Eders > Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:54:53 -0600 From: "Kenneth Hagerup" To: Subject: OT - Air Force Magazine, Dec 00 Message-ID: <004601c05f0e$e7127020$61b1fcd1@hppav> The December issue of Air Force Magazine has a collection of 18 of Robert Soubiran's photographs from his period in the Lafayette Escadrille. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:58:18 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) Message-ID: <001601c05f0e$dce5ea50$2939183f@cyrixp166> Apologies for adding to this threaed in advance. Burkie, Burkie, What are we going to do with you? Wendy O!!!??? Okay I had a fantasy once that I was a roll of electrical tape...ahem. You are not a well man. Cyg. If you're a metal fan, why didn't you mention Wendy O. Williams? Or Lita Ford? Rock Goddess? If you REALLY like the women of metal, why didn't you mention Bon Jovi or David Lee Roth? :-) Personally, since my head is hanging around two World Wars, I sorta like Edith Piaf, Marlene Dietrich, Vera Lynn, and alot of those 'annoying songs with the word "whoops" in the title' (a la Black Adder). Nothing like Edith Piaf in the background to really get into those SPADs! DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:14:55 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) Message-ID: <001901c05f11$82cc8c60$10ec79a5@com> Beautiful One, Gaston! I gotta agree on all counts! But I still say Piaf makes SPAD building more fun. Later! DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:16:07 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Prop logos Message-ID: <001a01c05f11$83a6bfc0$10ec79a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Franklin" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 4:54 PM Subject: Re: Prop logos > The propellers that I have documented and completed the artwork are: > > 1. Garuda from the NASM Albatross Book > 2. Nieuport 28 Helice Levasseur Brevete S.D.G.D. thanks to Lee Mensinger > 3. LVG Niendorf Propellerwerke Luckenwalde thanks to Steve Cox > > I have not yet combed my Datafiles, Profiles or WW One Aero, but plan to do > so. If anyone has any others, please contact me for details on what kind of > scan I would need. > > I am re-drawing all the art in Corel 8, vector based images for maximum > detail and clarity. > > Mike Franklin > Bellingham, WA USA > So did you check the Site and see the Germania prop and logo I photo'd last summer in France? DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:17:15 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) Message-ID: <001b01c05f11$84702a40$10ec79a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) > Apologies for adding to this threaed in advance. > > Burkie, Burkie, > > What are we going to do with you? Wendy O!!!??? > > Okay I had a fantasy once that I was a roll of electrical tape...ahem. > > You are not a well man. > > Cyg. Ahh, you catch on quickly, my friend. Now to listen to some Kinks and Neil Young. DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 20:00:07 EST From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Spouses and Models Message-ID: Ah yes, the early honeymoon years! I do miss them. Now that we have four kids and no time for each other - I work Monday through Friday, she works the weekends. Our only common ground now is fighting about her obnoxious ex-husband and how her accommodations of him - imagine having your spouse's ex in your own house snubbing you - and your wife blaming you because you've finally snapped and . . . oops, sorry. Did I qwerty that out loud? Anyway, I'll take styrene any day. And it's looking like in the not too distant future I'll have plenty of time for models. ~Steve In a message dated 12/5/2000 4:12:57 PM, kacosta@colsa.com writes: << To this fledgling husband, the secret seems to be this: spend time each day paying attention to her, then she'll be much more encouraging of the other things that interest me. It probably helps that I do 90% of the cooking and half the cleaning around here too. Not preaching, just sharing what seems to work for me. KA >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 19:41:55 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dealing with unanswerable questions Message-ID: <3A2D9962.59B9238F@bellsouth.net> smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > In modeling the machines of The Great War, we are constantly running into > questions which can never be proven conclusively. But in order to finish a > model we need to decide these issues for ourselves one way or the other. It > is the process of arriving at a decision on one of these unprovable > questions that is the spice of this hobby for me. For me, the fun is making each model better than the last one. Doesn't always happen, but that's the general idea. What drives me buggy is when some color facist rationalizes his choice of colors, then declares to the world that so and so's (blank) was painted (blank), even though there's no conclusive proof that so and so's (blank) was actually painted that color. It's one thing to say "I painted mine (blank) for reasons X,Y,Z". It's a whole nother ball of hair when someone says,"VOSS's COWL WAS ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY, CHARTUESE!, AND I CAN PROVE IT". Until they come up with something better than an interpretation of an old b&w photo, it's just their opinion, which is really nothing more than a best guess and should be presented as such. There's enough misinformation floating around history as it is. Let's not generate more. For the record, I try to find out what color something was;red, blue, green, brown, etc. I also try to determine if it was a light, or dark shade. After that, I grab whatever bottle of paint is; handy, close to the shade I think I want, and not dried up. The only thing I'll ever state as an 'absolute' is my uncertainty. My models may never be deemed worthy by the color facists, but that's fine with me. As long as I'm happy with it, nothing else matters. (converting the soapbox into a down-hill racer) E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 19:46:33 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Spouses and Models Message-ID: <3A2D9A79.2A35C5B5@bellsouth.net> Brent Theobald wrote: > Howdy folks, > > Do any you ever think the better half is out to get your models? Offer to give up the models and take up (choose your favorite) golf, fishing, hunting, whoring, bowling, or any one of dozens of activities that will keep you out of the house at every available moment. The models will start to look a lot better to your wife. It worked for me... E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:51:25 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Dealing with unanswerable questions Message-ID: <001f01c05f27$15fc6680$79ee79a5@com> > The only thing I'll ever state as an 'absolute' is my uncertainty. > My models may never be deemed worthy by the color facists, but that's fine with > me. As long as I'm happy with it, nothing else matters. > > (converting the soapbox into a down-hill racer) > E. > Bravo! I hereby formally withdraw my candidacy for U.S. Dictator and join in the support for Ernie Thomas as King of the World. Wisdom of F***'in Solomon, indeed! DB about to assemble a truckload of tiny hinges for the Camel...... ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2871 **********************