WWI Digest 2870 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: photographic musings by Shane Weier 2) Re: Albatros Axle attachment ? by Mark Miller 3) Re: Jack Gartner by "Jack Gartner" 4) Re: photographic musings by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 5) VCR alert about photos - was Re: photographic musings by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 6) Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 7) RE: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) by "Gaston Graf" 8) RE: ot - help I need a free isp by "Gaston Graf" 9) Re: Norwegian Taube photos by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ro=A7bud?= 10) RE: photographic musings by "dfernet0" 11) Re: photographic musings by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 12) help for site visitors by "dfernet0" 13) RE: Jacobs -god of the North wind by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 14) RE: Eduard for Ballon by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 15) Re: Nie.28 by Witold Kozakiewicz 16) Supporting Resin with Brass by Brent Theobald 17) Re: Linden Hill Imports by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 18) Linden Hill by "Matt Bittner" 19) Spouses and Models by Brent Theobald 20) Dealing with unanswerable questions by smperry@mindspring.com 21) Re: VCR alert about photos - was Re: photographic musings by "DAVID BURKE" 22) Re: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) by "DAVID BURKE" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 15:42:55 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Re: photographic musings Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621D58@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Stef, > It's not every time anyone... > It's not about failing to agree with me. It's about that someone's > unfounded assertions. Okay, so lets look at my assertion: >>Emulsion (*many* more than one recipe for Ortho emulsion, >>and *many* photographers of that period still made and >>coated their own plates) We'll leave out the fact that *some* people still chose to do this 40 years later for whatever reason, and I'll ask whether you believe that there were in fact very few people making their own plates? Please note that NOWHERE in the post did I suggest that the glass plates were in the majority nor that that cellulose acetate based films had a huge variety of emulsions nor indeed that many 1950's photographers coated their own plates. These are all straw men erected by you for ritual disembowling - but if that is what does it for you, feel free. Just don't make assumptions of your own to associate things with me that I have NOT said Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 4 Dec 2000 22:02:06 -0800 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Albatros Axle attachment ? Message-ID: <20001205060206.5966.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Hi I have some images on the cookup site which at least show the basic configuration I did not model the pegs or the cord but if you look at this picture you can see how the hardware is situated: http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/otprojects/images/mm_albdva_fus037.jpg There are a couple of other images that will show it as well at the bottom of the fuse page The landing gear struts look to me to be one long tube of with a bend in the middle - the axel fits into the inside of the elbow at the bend. I believe the "pegs" are just to keep the cord from climbing up the curved strut. the cord winds under the strut over the axel then under the strut on the other side - then back again on the other side of the strut. hmmm kinda confusing - well thats why I draw pictures instead. there's a good picture on page 78 of the Mikesh book. I've also got a close-up photo of this feature that I took at Rhinebeck. But I don't quite trust it. for one thing they put in an extra set of bracing wires - I do think they got the basic concept right though - I could send this to you if it would help. DAMN - I just noticed that there's a mistake in my model - I have the wheel to tight against the strut - there needs to be space for the cord to fit then there's a flange that the wheel rests against..... bummer - I need to fix that I considered modeling the cords - but it is difficult geometry and I figured the wheel would hide it I guess I was wrong - it's pretty darn visible from a lot of angles maybe it wouldn't be all that difficult after all ..... Mark On Mon, 04 December 2000, "Limon3" wrote: > > Hi Jon, > I have a close up picture from the DF on the DV that shows how the bungee > was attached to the strut. It seems that it was wrapped around a pair of > pegs welded to the strut, one front, one back. If I can find my DF I'll be > happy to scan the photo. I think the DIII was exactly the same. > Gabe. > > -----Original Message----- > From: JVT7532@aol.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Date: Monday, December 04, 2000 11:50 AM > Subject: Albatros Axle attachment ? > > > >Afternoon to everyone, I have a question about the Albatros D.lll axle. > Just > >how is the axle held on to the Landing gear, are there guide blocks? I have > >read somewhere that rubber bungees were used, were these just wrapped > around > >the axle and struts? I have checked my books and while one can see many > >pictures of wheels on the outside, the area of attachment for the axle is > >always in the shadows or is just to far away to see very well. Can anyone > >tell or show me just how this attachment looks? After all the work I went > >through to get these metal LG. struts on I would like the axle attachment > to > >look proper. Thanks a bunch, > > > > Best regards, > > Jon > >Jon V. Theisen > >7532 Lawndale Ave. > >Phila., PA 19111-2706 _______________________________________________________________________ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 02:23:08 -0500 From: "Jack Gartner" To: Subject: Re: Jack Gartner Message-ID: <000801c05e8c$3d8da7e0$2f88aaac@tampabay.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 11:09 PM Subject: Jack Gartner > Did I miss the message where he said he'd be gone? I haven't seen a message > from Jack Gartner in a while. > Merrill > Merrill, It's nice to be missed :-) Actually, I haven't gone anywhere, except into lurker mode. I've only been logging in every 4-5 days or so (which means a LOT of wading through messages!) because I have been fully occupied in a very ot project, namely, a 1:1 scale brick patio that I've been putting in in my side and back yard. Kind of leaves me too bushed for modeling activities at the moment. That, plus I'm afraid my Dilthey project went from cook-up to cock-up. I was using Humbrol Emerald Green which is a very nice match to the Saxon Green. It's a gloss and I was very dismayed to when it produced a very nasty orange peel surface when sprayed, the worst I've ever had using an airbrush. And that was using Humbrol thinner and trying about 3 different paint to thinner ratios. Of course the worst orange peel is on the elevator surfaces around the control horns. I've been slowing sanding down the worst of it, but that got me kind of discouraged and definitely slowed me down. I am slowly slogging away though and will get it into the Cook-up, definitely by the Sopwith deadline :->. So, I'm still here on and off, enjoying the view. Jack Gartner diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 02:29:13 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: photographic musings Message-ID: In a message dated 12/5/00 0:28:43 AM EST, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Stef, > But 1. why wouldn't Australians own cameras, when, in > Austria, for example, > there was a model specifically aimed at the poor front-line > footsoldier? Just like the British, personal photography was frowned upon. Care to guess why there are so few photos of British WW1 aircraft compared to German ones? Shane >> Guess what I found out?? Cartier-Bresson's still alive and still shooting photographs!! :-) Yeah, I know, it's waaay ot sorta, but you can use his theory of "the decisive moment" to take very good pictures of airplanes - I know I do. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 02:33:35 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: VCR alert about photos - was Re: photographic musings Message-ID: <76.589b201.275df44f@aol.com> Here in North America, this Thursday night be sure to catch "Shooting War" at 9 pm your local on ABC. Hosted by Tom Hanks, executive produced by Steven Spielberg, and dedicated to the combat cameramen of WW2. Sure, it's ot here, but you're gonna kick yourself if you miss it. They will be including WW1 photos, and then they'll start with Capa's "Loyalist Soldier".... Cheers, TC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 02:35:58 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) Message-ID: <71.8dec94f.275df4de@aol.com> Lucky enough that is to put on CBS and watch that great Tina Turner concert, living proof that a 62 year old babe can still put you into a cold sweat with your heart beating like a triphammer???? Damn.... she was as good as she was when she knocked me dead at the Cinnamon Cinder in San Diego when I was in aircrew school (back when JFK was still president), or five years later when she did a version of "Proud Mary" in the Oakland Colisseum that was so kickbutt that Mick Jagger didn't have the cojones to come on stage after her for over an hour (and then changed the bill for the rest of that tour so BB King was between him and her - BB being the only man on the planet who could come onstage 20 minutes after Tina left and not be still upstaged by her). If it really is her last concert tour, at least she has the smarts to go out on top: those 20-nothing backups she had on stage with her were haulin' tushie to keep up with her. Man.... I remember being 15 feet from the stage at the Fillmore West when she did "I've Been Loving You (A Bit Too Long)", the things she did to that microphone, she.... whoops, this is a PG list, sorry about that. All I can tell you is there wasn't a man in the place who wasn't wiping cooooold sweat from his brow when she was done. Cheers, TC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:04:28 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) Message-ID: Oooopsala....ehmm....well...... I am personally more the Metal Fan. I hate most of the Rolling Bones music except but for "paint it black" and "brown sugar". As for Tina.... no not my stile either. Of the ladies I prefer Céline Dion, Doro Pesch, Enya, Loreena McKennit and sometimes Madonna. But mostly I prefer Metal hence I listen to Doro, Metallica, Iced Earth.... just a matter of taste Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > TomTheAeronut@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:43 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) > > > Lucky enough that is to put on CBS and watch that great Tina > Turner concert, > living proof that a 62 year old babe can still put you into a cold sweat > with your heart beating like a triphammer???? > > Damn.... she was as good as she was when she knocked me dead at > the Cinnamon > Cinder in San Diego when I was in aircrew school (back when JFK was still > president), or five years later when she did a version of "Proud > Mary" in the > Oakland Colisseum that was so kickbutt that Mick Jagger didn't have the > cojones to come on stage after her for over an hour (and then changed the > bill for the rest of that tour so BB King was between him and her > - BB being > the only man on the planet who could come onstage 20 minutes > after Tina left > and not be still upstaged by her). If it really is her last > concert tour, at > least she has the smarts to go out on top: those 20-nothing > backups she had > on stage with her were haulin' tushie to keep up with her. > > Man.... I remember being 15 feet from the stage at the Fillmore > West when she > did "I've Been Loving You (A Bit Too Long)", the things she did to that > microphone, she.... whoops, this is a PG list, sorry about that. > All I can > tell you is there wasn't a man in the place who wasn't wiping > cooooold sweat > from his brow when she was done. > > Cheers, > > TC > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:14:36 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: ot - help I need a free isp Message-ID: Micheal, depending on what service you need I can provide you this link: http://topnic.com/us.tt I received an ad from their German site today, offering free email serivces as well as free domain registration for websites. The link that I copied for you is the link to the US site. But I do not know if they offer entry nodes to the web as well. sincerely Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Michael Kendix > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 2:14 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: ot - help I need a free isp > > > Sorry to trouble you all - please reply off list. > > I use Alta Vista as my isp and their free service is discontinued from > December 10. Can anyone give me the name of a free isp that they > recommend, > especially if they use it themselves. > > Thanks, and sorry once again for the interuption. > > Michael > > > __________________________________________________________________ > ___________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 03:28:26 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ro=A7bud?= To: Knut Erik Hagen Subject: Re: Norwegian Taube photos Message-ID: <3A2CB53A.34A44A29@webster.sk.ca> Knut, Let me assure you, no disrespect to your country or your images was intended. I was under the impression these were of two different Taube, and I am certain your identifications and captions are correct; as you appear to be quite knowledgeable concerning this a/c. My apologies to Allan Wright from who's site these 1913 Rumpler Taube photos were copied. I was quite suprised that they were from "World War I Modeling Page". As a fellow World War One Modelers Web Ring site I have browsed the "WWI Modeling Page" but unfortunately never stumbled across ../Nor_Taube/index.html. Just to be safe, I checked the entire site and found no other images copied from any of the pages within the http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/ domain. Thankyou for your offer to link to your "Start" page, but I have plenty of Taube images and only used these because they were submitted by a contributor. It is also unnessesary, considering your page is indirectly linked from my site via the Web Ring. As a courtesy I will edit archive.htm as soon as possible. VBR Rod Filan Ro§bud's WWI Aviation Image Archive http://www.geocities.com/aerodromeaces Knut Erik Hagen wrote: > Rod, > > Please check http//pease1.sr.unh.edu/Photos/Various/Nor_Taube/index.html > > I expect you to remove the images with their false captions from your page ASAP, > they should not be taken out of their context and be presented as Austrian > or whatever country the Imperial Naval Air Service is supposed to represent. > > If you wants to have a link for Taube pictures pointing to the original page, > thats fine with me - because the captions there are correct as far as I know. > > Rgds > Knut Erik > > > > >Thankyou for bringing this to my attention. These photos were contributed > >within the last month. As you might imagine, I receive many images from > >visitors to my page. The intention of this archive is to make images available > >to modellers and enthusiasts without infringment on others. The first words on > >my page state: > > > >This @rchive is intended to provide unique, unusual and hard-to-find images. > >I believe all images linked from this page are in the public domain (unless > >otherwise indicated ©) > >If you have copyrights to any image; please email me and I will promptly > >respond. > >(additionally, I have written) > >Feel free to email me if you have any corrections, suggestions or > >contributions. > > > >When images are contributed I take descriptions and/or captions at face value > >unless I can, through research or existing knowledge, expand or correct them. > > > >My apologies for any inconvenience this has caused. Furthermore if these > >images were not made available to the public I will remove them immeadiately. > >Otherwise, if you prefer, I can retain them with correct caption and credit > >given. > > > >VBR > >Rod Filan > > > >Ro§bud's WWI Aviation Image Archive > >http://www.geocities.com/aerodromeaces > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your > >eyes turned skyward, > >for there you have been, and there you will always long to return. > >- Leonardo da Vinci > > > >Knut Erik Hagen wrote: > > > >> Hei, > >> > >> Someone has copied the Taube pictures I made available for our lists > >> World War 1 Photos, possibly changed resolution and put them on > >> the page below with completely wrong captions. > >> Norwegian aircraft Start was never part of the Imperial Naval Air Service. > >> > >> I wanted the pictures to be available for modellers and enthusiasts, > >> did not want to see them uploaded with false captions on other pages. > >> > >> Always willing to share reference material, but I prefer that people > >> ask first and use it properly. > >> > >> Does someone on the list know the Email adress for the web-master > >> Rosebud? so I can contact him regarding this? > >> > >> Eders > >> Knut Erik > >> > >> >I just found this site. Its probably old news to some but I'm sure others > >> >might find it usefull. Especially if you are looking for pictures if F1's > >> > > >> >http://www.geocities.com/aw3aw3/archive.htm > >> >Ray > >> > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 06:58:36 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: photographic musings Message-ID: <009f01c05ea1$efafdf00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Well well well well.............. Seems like I've thrown a treacherous grenade on some trenches here... please Stef, Shane.... let's keep the manners here since there's little time left until Christmas and we need the truce to play a football match or two. So, after yours and Cyg's opinion, there's not much ground to be won if someone does modern ortho photography on known tonal values. There goes my theory down the drain. OK, I'll paint the cowl yellow D. (crawling back to his hideout under heavy volleys of enemy artillery fire) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 06:02:53 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: photographic musings Message-ID: <007501c05eaa$eb5e2200$5137183f@cyrixp166> Oh Sure! Touch off a fire fight why don't you. :-) Still counting the holes, Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: dfernet0 To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:03 AM Subject: RE: photographic musings > Well well well well.............. > Seems like I've thrown a treacherous grenade on some trenches here... please > Stef, Shane.... let's keep the manners here since there's little time left > until Christmas and we need the truce to play a football match or two. > So, after yours and Cyg's opinion, there's not much ground to be won if > someone does modern ortho photography on known tonal values. There goes my > theory down the drain. > OK, I'll paint the cowl yellow > D. > (crawling back to his hideout under heavy volleys of enemy artillery fire) > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 08:21:09 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: help for site visitors Message-ID: <001f01c05ead$77b86420$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi friends! Below I attached two queries from visitors to my pages that I couldn't find by myself. Knowing that there are many experten loose on the list, you may like to answer these questions on this forum or perhaps directly to me or to the modeler's addresses (I wrote them on the last line of each message) Thanks in advance D. ----------------------- I am building a model of the RE8, serial number A4381, from 7 squadron that downed Eduard Ritter von Dostler of Jassa 6 on 21 August 1917. I am searching for a photograph of this plane. Would you know where I would be able to find one? Thank you for your help!! Regards, Marla NGraiff00@aol.com --------------------------------------------------- Hello, having found your site I've some questions - although you seem to have specialised on WW1 aircraft, I wonder whether you could help me with an 1:48 Antoinette model from 'Semad'. Do you know of any information on original details of this plane? There must have been at least 4 types with probably different engines (not only this Le(va?)vasseur 8 cylinder). I have some books with overall pictures but not too much details... I recently did some research on the web but there's mot much - so I'd be glad if you had some hints - Thank you very much Kai Schumacher kai_schumacher@gmx.de ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 18:37:21 +0700 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Jacobs -god of the North wind Message-ID: Yes, sometimes we can all learn something from some posts. Regarding a mail from Stef Carver from November 20, 2000, Mr. Stephen T. Lawson informs us all on Stef that: "Lawson Response--- What, you cant spend 20.00 on a Shangai Dragon Kit? Gad, man your lazy. Do you have to be spoon fed too? Lawson response--- His recommendations could be gleaned by contacting him at the Aerodrome or are you too lazy for that too? Lawson response--- No its not a problem Jacobs referred to the emblem as the "god of the north wind", "a witch" and "a devil" at various times. Haven't you read anything but the modeler's page? Lawson---"... At best it is a copy of a turn of the century illustration probably found in a child's story book..." Karver---"...Cheap Internet speculation?..." Lawson response--- No the educated guess from the guy who has read ,translated,retranslated and published entirely Jacobs own diary, with the backing and editing of real fellow historians. Don't let the fact that I'm an honorary member of the Lafayette Flying Corps sway you. Lawson response--- ... we can live with that or speculate just don't call the speculation history Lawson response--- Did it take you all this time to figure that out?" So we all know now the important and clear difference between "speculating" and (educated) "guessing" (the last one only for real historians) (for those not remembering the original mails: that "cheap internet" remark came from Mr. Lawson´s original, may I say: also not very favourable? mail on Tomasz´web page); we also know the fundamental connection between laziness of some of our listmembers and their inability to raise enough funds for modelling. Now some of the less educated of the listmembers (like me) could think that Mr. Lawson´s statements are somewhat exaggerated and maybe slightly insulting. However, using all the education and experience I have (from working in a number of developiong countries, like today here in Malaysia) I can confirm to Mr. Lawson that I know quite a number of hard working people who are for whatever reason not able to afford $ 20.- for Shanghai Dragon kits just to see their decals (that was Stef Carvers original statement). May I (respectfully) suggest that a real historian should carefully consider wether he can prove his conclusions? OK, Mr. Lawson: Tomasz Gronczewski on his webpage did a (in my opinion) quite innovative approach to analyze the existing photos - and yes, I agree he ended up with some wrong conclusions. Stef Carver asked some (maybe to direct) questions, but they were (if anything) less over-subtle (dare I say: nit-picking?) then your original mail. He also did some innovative studies on another highly disputed subject to finally prove what I only guessed (sorry: speculated - no historian), but I promised him not to say more. We need these people. If we don´t allow such innovative approaches and such questions, we might end up with old (but wrong) interpretaions - like those of one real historian, who included some (dare I say: highly questionable at best?) Fokker Dr I profiles in his otherwise quite good translation of the Jasta 36 war diaries. BUT: I firmly believe that statements like: "Gad, man your lazy" etc. don´t belong to this list. What about an excuse (more for real men, not real historians)? Volker Haeusler ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 14:27:54 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: Eduard for Ballon Message-ID: > FOR SALE > Six (6) Eduard Albatros D.V 1/48 (old technolog) > (Three complete with white metal undercarriage correction) > Apply within. LOL > (AH-HA I predicted that the'd do this *months* ago. Nice to be right for > once!) Me too. This is why I bought only five of them Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 15:03:59 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Nie.28 Message-ID: <3A2CF5CF.A78A30C8@bg.am.lodz.pl> DAVID BURKE napisa³(a): > > Hey Guys, > > Just picked up two kits: the incredible Spit IX from ICM Hi, Mine is very poor molded, sinkholes, lots of work but good engeneering (it needs some corections - bulges over wheel bays) but back OT > Did Eduard ever do a Nie.25? No they didn't. And I'm affraid they will not. But you can convert Nie.17 using Toms Modelworks set for Nie.24/27. You can see mine on wwi gallery. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 08:59:42 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Supporting Resin with Brass Message-ID: <0C9947CED778D411B8BD0008C7FAA642A52030@emerald.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy! I ran across this while surfing Hyper Scale. I thought it might be of interest to some of our resin builders. So do we use alumnim (alumininium) instead? ======================================================================= >I'm planning a scratchbuilding project that will include both cast resin >parts an etched brass. Some of the resin/brass parts will be quite large (several square inches). Will the different expansion/contraction coefficient of >brass and resin make the parts come loose after a time if glued together? If you are dealing with a static model, an item that will not be exposed to temperature extremes, then it is likely that the different thermal induced expansion coefficients of the two materials will not exert enough sheer force to break a typical CA bond (CA adhesives fail readily when subjected shock loads along the sheer plain, but hold up well under static or slowly applied dynamic loads). It'll work fine. However, unprotected brass (or any copper based alloy) will suffer oxidation (green slime) when placed into close contact with raw polyurethane resin. Something to think about before sticking raw resin to raw brass pieces. Most acid-etched brass parts as supplied are still coated with the photoresist film used during their manufacture. This resist is an excellent barrier between the raw brass and raw resin. The resist is also an excellent substrate for primer paint, making these items almost 'ready for painting' once snipped off the fret. If you're working with raw brass, I recommend the following steps to prep the part for bonding to resin: Scrub with steel wool and lacquer thinner, then 'Pickle' the brass (a brief wash in Ferric Chloride acid and then a rinsing in water), then prim it. And degrease and prim the resin too before bonding the resin and brass parts together. I have successfully bonded brass to resin and brass to GRP using the above methodology aboard r/c submarines, boats, and aircraft models for a number of years now and have observed few bonding failures (all of these usage's of a nonstructural type -- no severe dynamic stress at the glue points). David D. Merriman, Jr. r/c submarines, 'the only way to fly!' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:57:36 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Linden Hill Imports Message-ID: <852569AC.0052FBF9.00@stmfd-gateway2.hyperion.com> Hi Folks, Do they have a website? Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 09:07:25 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Linden Hill Message-ID: <200012051507.HAA21678@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> The URL: http://www.lindenhillimports.com Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:20:14 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Spouses and Models Message-ID: <0C9947CED778D411B8BD0008C7FAA642A52031@emerald.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy folks, Do any you ever think the better half is out to get your models? (SP may abstain from this thread for obvious reasons.) Sunday my wife was busily dusting the room. Whenever she does this I know to move models out of her way. I moved the Albatros to the recently dusted piano. I swear I turned my back for a moment and WHAM! she knocked it off the piano. The good news is only a landing gear strut and the tail skid came off. I no sooner recover from this when I see my ot B-29 hanging off the speaker where it resides. She says "Oh! Did I do that?" Hah! That innocent BS doesn't work on me anymore. At least not as much as it used to. Anyhow, that model would not survive a fall from such a height. Too much ballast in the nose. Luckily I was able to return her, the B-29 that is, to her proper location. Lastly, adding insult to injury my Albatros was vandalised again while waiting for repairs. I laid the wounded bird, landing gear pointing up, on my workbench. I put a clean rag underneath to protect the lozenged wing. The parts to be re-attached were also placed on the rag. Apparently someone needed a rag. Because I return later and the rag and parts are missing. Of course nobody knows anything. Grrrr! My next house will have a model room, with a door and a lock! I might never come out. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:56:00 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Dealing with unanswerable questions Message-ID: <001301c05ed3$de5078a0$d2f9aec7@default> In modeling the machines of The Great War, we are constantly running into questions which can never be proven conclusively. But in order to finish a model we need to decide these issues for ourselves one way or the other. It is the process of arriving at a decision on one of these unprovable questions that is the spice of this hobby for me. In exploring the disputed issues I learn so much more about the people, the times and the machines that facinate me so. The particular process by which one arrives at a decision is secondary to the fact thet there is a process. To read, ask and think, then to choose is the process. It doesn't matter if you use a color blind copier, accounts of half century old memories or combat reports given by 20 year olds flush with after-affects of an adrenaline overdose. It's the fact that you used a process to arrive at a decision that counts. The degree of rigor you appply to the process is a matter of personality, Take it as far as you enjoy taking it. A more rigorus process of decision does not by necessity yield a more valid decision. Only one more satisfying to the person applying the rigor. If, in the process of deciding a cowl or marking color, you have learned something you didn't know before, read a refrence you'd not yet read or closely analysed a photo you'd hetetofore only glanced at, then you have well spent your time. Some modelers derive great satisfaction in having exact color chips to duplicate and there is nothing at all wrong with that. The lack of exactitude involved in WWI colors tends to attract a different type of modeler however, one whose satisfaction in the hobby is gained through the process of evaluation and decision rather than duplication. We may take the process to differing lengths, but the need to decide for one's self and then executing that choice in paint and plastic is why so many of us are hooked on this area of modeling. Personally I respect, (without necessarally subscribing to), any choice that is based on a process as a valid interpertation. Which, as these events fade from living memory, is all we have anyway. sp nb: A-H Alb D.II I finally got this one moving again. E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:37:21 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: VCR alert about photos - was Re: photographic musings Message-ID: <004801c05ed3$1a8e07c0$fee979a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 1:38 AM Subject: VCR alert about photos - was Re: photographic musings > Here in North America, this Thursday night be sure to catch "Shooting War" at > 9 pm your local on ABC. Hosted by Tom Hanks, executive produced by Steven > Spielberg, and dedicated to the combat cameramen of WW2. Sure, it's ot here, > but you're gonna kick yourself if you miss it. They will be including WW1 > photos, and then they'll start with Capa's "Loyalist Soldier".... > > Cheers, > > TC > Huh. Missed it. However, I liked the documentary, 'They Drew Fire' that was on PBS awile back, and I also have seen the book. Combat photographers? Hah. Click and run. How about the combat artists? Sketch, sketch, sketch, duck, sketch, sketch, duck, oops, sketch, etc.... Those guys had real guts! Granted, it focused on the latter half of the Great War, but I am also quite familiar with battlefield sketches and artwork from several other wars. Neat stuff. DB just remembering the last scene in 'All's Quiet on the Western Front' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:45:10 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Anybody else lucky tonight? (waaaaay ot) Message-ID: <004901c05ed3$1b790400$fee979a5@com> Gaston, I love you man, but: >Of the ladies I prefer > Céline Dion Aaaaaaahhh! Evil! >, Doro Pesch, Enya, Enya! How do you stay awake? > Loreena McKennit and sometimes Madonna. Eeicchh!! You forgot to mention Streisand! If you're a metal fan, why didn't you mention Wendy O. Williams? Or Lita Ford? Rock Goddess? If you REALLY like the women of metal, why didn't you mention Bon Jovi or David Lee Roth? :-) Personally, since my head is hanging around two World Wars, I sorta like Edith Piaf, Marlene Dietrich, Vera Lynn, and alot of those 'annoying songs with the word "whoops" in the title' (a la Black Adder). Nothing like Edith Piaf in the background to really get into those SPADs! DB ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2870 **********************