WWI Digest 2867 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! by "dfernet0" 2) Re: do you still remember... by "Sandy Adam" 3) Art education WAS: Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder! by "dfernet0" 4) RE: do you still remember... by "dfernet0" 5) Re:louvres by Crawford Neil 6) Re: LvR's D-III by David Fleming 7) Re: Sopwith Atlantic question by David Fleming 8) Re: louvres by Jan Vihonen 9) RE: louvres by Crawford Neil 10) Re: louvres by smperry@mindspring.com 11) RE: louvres by Crawford Neil 12) RE: Sopwith Atlantic question by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 13) Re: louvres by Jan Vihonen 14) RE: louvres by Crawford Neil 15) Snipped catalogRV: Bollettino 12/2000 by "dfernet0" 16) Re: Rangehen - was: RE: Wolff's DIII by "Stefen Karver" 17) photographic musings by "dfernet0" 18) Windsock Nov/Dec 2000 by knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 19) DH4 in balloon scale?? by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 20) Re: DH4 in balloon scale?? by "Matt Bittner" 21) Re: DH4 in balloon scale?? by "David C. Fletcher" 22) Re: DH4 in balloon scale?? by KarrArt@aol.com 23) Nylon Thread help by Brent Theobald 24) Re: Die Maschine Greim wird beendet - hehe my German is terrible.... by "Hans Trauner" 25) Albatros Axle attachment ? by JVT7532@aol.com 26) Re: DH4 in balloon scale?? by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 27) Link added by "Matt Bittner" 28) Weathering Leather by Brent Theobald 29) Roden Pfalz by "Matt Bittner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 06:41:52 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! Message-ID: <012201c05dd6$6e7dda20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Peter! Me again. I have some 1/48 kosciusko insignias, I guess from WW2 planes. Would they work? I can't say. I'll check and if they can be used I'll send them along. Regards D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Leonard To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 4:22 PM Subject: Re: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! > Do me a favour and stick a 1/48 Kosciuszko insignia on there for my Ansaldo > ;) > > Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:47:34 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Re: do you still remember... Message-ID: <001a01c05dd7$55a06260$03e8b094@sandyada> I don't remember the first flight terribly much - except for a bit of apprehension - having seen the previous Air Cadet landing anfd being told to clean the "honk" out of the Chipmunk. But.... the SECOND flight was spectacular. Same day, same place - RAF Turnhouse, Edinburgh - air experience for a bunch of 16 year old Air Cadets. I got a Polish instructor this time who said "Do you vant to do aerobatics?" I couldn't say NO could I? He took us out over the River Forth and proceeded to throw the Chippie all over the sky. He ended up by diving under part of the Forth Rail Bridge!!!! I was still sitting shell-shocked in the rear of the plane, when he announced "You have kontrol, Kadet" and slid back the canopy and started wiping the windscreen with a rag!!!!!!!! We used to get lots of flights in wierd old aircraft at various stations - biggest disappointment was at RAF Warrington one year when a Lancaster took us up in groups of a dozen or so. I was sitting on the grass in the second group when it landed and the first bunch jumped out. Then a couple of minutes later, one of the crew came over to apologise that it was losing oil pressure and all flights were off. Bugger! Had a flight in a Shackleton, but it wasn't the same. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 07:22:25 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Art education WAS: Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder! Message-ID: <01fa01c05ddc$18b9ec40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Robert K wrote: > I had one art course in my "educational years"-in the 7th grade, and it was a > requirement- and it was taught by the mother of that Lassiter punk who does > the 'Toy Story' computer animation movies. It consisted mostly of Mrs. > Lassiter showing movies about art, with a hands-on collage-making assignment > ot two. Curiosly, when I was about 10 yrs. old and my parents saw that I had certain inclination (bah, obsession) for drwaing, they sent me to an art class to see if I would learn something else than scribbling Batmans on every sheet of paper I found. On my first class the teacher said "Well, today we will cut many colored paper bits and glue it onto a sheet of paper so we can do a landscape". I grabbed all my stuff and ran out of there... D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 07:48:46 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: do you still remember... Message-ID: <029601c05ddf$c95a4380$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Glider: Super Blanik Eco Lima Sierra Airplane: Piper PA-11 (now destroyed) D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:01:17 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "WW1 list (E-mail)" Subject: Re:louvres Message-ID: Hi Matt, I snipped a bit from a mail to Jim Landon about making louvres: >snip I'll answer this bit by bit, starting with louvres. You know that when you stretch sprue, it will hold the shape of the original sprue. So I made myself some triangular section sprue , actually by cutting a square section along the centre. Then I put it over a candle and pull in the usual fashion, the result is triangular section stretched sprue (strue). Thats easy, the difficult part is cutting into seperate louvres and glueing them on with clear varnish. Actually this is all cheating, because the louvres on a SPAD 16 go inwards, I just couldn't think of a way of simulating that, so they have to go outward, it still looks good. Of course the Salmson is even worse, the amount of louvres on that is mind-boggling! /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 10:50:03 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: LvR's D-III Message-ID: <3A2B76DA.ACCDD654@dial.pipex.com> > My Uncle > has been in photography all of his life and is an expert > on film chemistry and when I asked him about this(using > the photo of Lothar in this plane and another > pilot(Baumer???) on a step-ladder)after showing him other > photos of the "yellowish" stained fuse D-III's, he said > that it wouldn't be that dark even on othochromatic film. > He said that while yellow can appear darker than normal, > it wouldn't be that dark. the problem is that we don't know the type of film (probably glass plates) used, what the development chemistry was, what generation the print is, how was it printed etc etc. Ortho can make yellow look black - look at some photos of early WW2 RAF planes with dark outer roundel rings - but this is a specific (lack of) response to a certain part of the visual spectrum, and will vary from emulsion to emulsion. I'm currently looking at Pfalz D111 1370, which is always illustrated with a yellow nose, but in photos the nose looks black. (Having said that, I'm increasingly sceptical about the colours ascribed to OT aircarft, particularly captured ones !!) The simple answer is, we will never know !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 10:52:37 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwith Atlantic question Message-ID: <3A2B7775.FB39B656@dial.pipex.com> Ray Boorman wrote: > Shane you are correct Frog did make the Southern Cross along with the Alcock > and Brown Vimy, Spirit of St Louis, Bleriot Monoplane and a Bristol High > Altitude Aircraft. I think there were more aircraft in this series...... I > can't remeber if frog or Airfix made the Comet Racer? > Both. > > Does anyone know if the modern "Silver Queen" Vimy replica is still planned > to fly Alcock and Brown flight??, I read a while back that this was to be > the third and final of the record breaking flights this Aircraft was to fly. > According to the latest Aeroplan Monthly, this is still planned. DAF ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 13:56:42 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: louvres Message-ID: <3A2B867A.52FA5AB9@helsinki.fi> Crawford Neil wrote: snip > louvres and glueing them on with clear varnish. Actually > this is all cheating, because the louvres on a SPAD 16 go > inwards, I just couldn't think of a way of simulating that, > so they have to go outward, it still looks good. Of course > the Salmson is even worse, the amount of louvres on that is > mind-boggling! I've been simulating invards curving louvres by first removing the area with louvres, cementing a thin piece of plasticard behind to cover the removed area and then filling the recess with Milliput which I smoothen almost to the rest of the surface with a wet spatula. Into this (uncured) Milliput I make the recessions of the louvres with a wet (to keep it from sticking) plasticard strip of which one end has been sanded into a "male mould". After Milliput has cured I just sand the extruded Milliput off and give a finishing touch. If there are any panel lines, I simulate these with a small photoetched finger saw. Jan Vihonen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:55:35 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: louvres Message-ID: Yes that sounds like a good idea, especially in larger scale. I don't think it would have been practical on the Spad 16, there are just too many louvres, and not enough space to remove plastic. Another thing in 1/72 is that outward- going louvres might look better because are exagerated, they might disappear otherwise. But its a lovely idea, that I will remember, I'm going to build my next scratch in 1/36 and I need louvres for that, I think I will try and use your method for that. Especially the slightly bigger louvres you see, would be great using your method. Thanks Jan. /Neil -----Original Message----- From: Jan Vihonen [mailto:jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi] Sent: den 4 december 2000 13:02 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: louvres Crawford Neil wrote: snip > louvres and glueing them on with clear varnish. Actually > this is all cheating, because the louvres on a SPAD 16 go > inwards, I just couldn't think of a way of simulating that, > so they have to go outward, it still looks good. Of course > the Salmson is even worse, the amount of louvres on that is > mind-boggling! I've been simulating invards curving louvres by first removing the area with louvres, cementing a thin piece of plasticard behind to cover the removed area and then filling the recess with Milliput which I smoothen almost to the rest of the surface with a wet spatula. Into this (uncured) Milliput I make the recessions of the louvres with a wet (to keep it from sticking) plasticard strip of which one end has been sanded into a "male mould". After Milliput has cured I just sand the extruded Milliput off and give a finishing touch. If there are any panel lines, I simulate these with a small photoetched finger saw. Jan Vihonen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:27:36 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: louvres Message-ID: <000901c05df5$f821a8a0$2cf9aec7@default> I've found a way of working with1/72 louvers that are cast or molded into the fuselage halves. It works better the sharper the kit detail. After painting and then a good coat of Future, take a knife and make a single cut through the Future on the open side of the louver where it meets the fuselage. Reverse the knife point and carefully widen the scratch. You can even scratch a bit off the open side of the louver. Take care not to make any stray scratches, (Mend any stray scratches with a tiny bit of alcohol on a blade tip and smooth over), and remove all the tiny bits of scratched up finish. Now carefully paint the scratched areas you made with india ink. Moisten a Q-tip and wipe up the ink. The ink is concentrated and will seem to grow at first. Use plenty of clean slightly moist swabs and all the ink will disappear from the Futured surface leaving the scratches you made jet black. Seal with a light airbrushed coat of future or lacquer. Works very well on panel lines too sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 15:10:05 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: louvres Message-ID: Another good idea, also thank you for your idea last week about toning down decals. I got some watercolour pencils and they did the jobb very well. Actually they worked very similarly to the pastels I often use, but they are simpler to use. I also used the pencils for some slight weathering. I suppose you use ink in cases like the louvres when you want a really strong colour? /Neil -----Original Message----- From: smperry@mindspring.com [mailto:smperry@mindspring.com] Sent: den 4 december 2000 14:27 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: louvres I've found a way of working with1/72 louvers that are cast or molded into the fuselage halves. It works better the sharper the kit detail. After painting and then a good coat of Future, take a knife and make a single cut through the Future on the open side of the louver where it meets the fuselage. Reverse the knife point and carefully widen the scratch. You can even scratch a bit off the open side of the louver. Take care not to make any stray scratches, (Mend any stray scratches with a tiny bit of alcohol on a blade tip and smooth over), and remove all the tiny bits of scratched up finish. Now carefully paint the scratched areas you made with india ink. Moisten a Q-tip and wipe up the ink. The ink is concentrated and will seem to grow at first. Use plenty of clean slightly moist swabs and all the ink will disappear from the Futured surface leaving the scratches you made jet black. Seal with a light airbrushed coat of future or lacquer. Works very well on panel lines too sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:08:36 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Sopwith Atlantic question Message-ID: Shane, thanks for the mental nudge. . . Since finding a kit of the Sopwith Atlantic is likely impossible. . .did find a nifty photo of it tho' ...I've added Southern Cross to the list. Actually after I read your post I raced to the plastic palace and ordered the Chematic kit. . .only one I can access here with any speed. And as I'm finding speed is going to be of the essence with this project. (ot for a sec. . .started my VC winning lanc last night. Interior painted, wings together engines together, ready for fuse assembly, wings and tail on and with luck first coat of paint tonight.) Back OT ish . Back before the Vimy made it's crossing there was the tag team attempt by the R-34 navy dirigible (failed when the blimp broke its mooring and drifted away. last seen frolicking at sea level with a bunch of ie bergs.) Three flying boats were to accompany the R-34, the NC-3, -4 and -5. Still having a hard time tracking any photographic references on these ones. Anyone point me to a site or book where I can have a look at one?? In case I forget in the approaching whirlwind of work, my sincere thanks to all the help, suggestions advice and comments on my sanity with regard to this project. Reminds me of how valuable this list really is. I saltue the lot of you. . .I'd salute with a stoop of ale or a goblet of red wine but alas I've had to swear off the stuff until I finish building :-(. Wouldn't do to put the Vimy's wings on backwards now would it ;-) MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 16:48:50 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: louvres Message-ID: <3A2BAED2.46AC2761@helsinki.fi> Glad you liked it. I've been lurking here for some time now and I've learned tremendously, so I'm only too happy to give something back, too. Jan Crawford Neil wrote: > > Yes that sounds like a good idea, especially in larger scale. > I don't think it would have been practical on the Spad 16, there > are just too many louvres, and not enough space to remove plastic. > Another thing in 1/72 is that outward- going louvres might look > better because are exagerated, they might disappear otherwise. > But its a lovely idea, that I will remember, I'm going to build > my next scratch in 1/36 and I need louvres for that, I think I > will try and use your method for that. Especially the slightly > bigger louvres you see, would be great using your method. Thanks Jan. > /Neil > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 16:17:43 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: louvres Message-ID: Please delurk more often! /Neil -----Original Message----- From: Jan Vihonen [mailto:jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi] Sent: den 4 december 2000 15:53 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: louvres Glad you liked it. I've been lurking here for some time now and I've learned tremendously, so I'm only too happy to give something back, too. Jan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:02:25 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: Snipped catalogRV: Bollettino 12/2000 Message-ID: <058501c05e03$36825d80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi list For anyone interested, here I selected the WW1 products that came with the last bulletin of MisterKit. 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VI 22.000 > 010- Fokker Dr I 22.000 > 015- Pfalz D.III a Novità > 017- Fokker F.1 22.000 > In considerazione delle recenti fluttuazioni della Lira, i prezzi sono da > considerarsi come INDICATIVI > Gli ordini possono essere fatti per telefono , per fax allo 02/8243791 o > tramite e-mail ai seguenti indirizzi: > order@misterkit.com - mrkit@lo.itline.it potete inoltre chiedere > informazioni all'indirizzo e-mail info@misterkit.com e visitare il nostro > sito all'indirizzo www.misterkit.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 23:19:32 -0500 From: "Stefen Karver" To: Subject: Re: Rangehen - was: RE: Wolff's DIII Message-ID: <000901c05e72$942e0320$6f6dd6d8@stephen> Thank you, Sharon and Volker, for a very agreeable and informative public correspondence. Volker's citing of the other 'color notes' of Jasta 11 machines made by "Thor Goote" (a rather suspicious pseudonym in the context) highlights the degree to which any verbal reports must be viewed with a critical eye, despite the necessity of depending on them in pursuit of historical truth. This is especially so when dealing with material that is clearly propaganda, which is merely a branch of advertising, although perhaps its most twisted. In the case of a Thor Goote, despite, or indeed because of, his access to personal and public archives--from which we might legitimately expect the truth--an even greater of skepticism is called for. Given the aim of remaining and reinventing the past--and especially that of World War I--that was basic to the political goals of the organization for which the book was written (and Volker's translation of the title suggests that that purpose starts on the book cover itself), it can be wondered at that there is anything in Rangehen that conforms to the historical record untouched by the Great Lie. That said, even statements that would appear less suspect--such as that of Lothar's in Ein Heldenleben which serves as one of the primary sources for the personal colors in use in early Jasta 11 service--require careful consideration, as he cites yellow as his color. Since I am unaware of confirming visual evidence for his use of yellow during his initial tour with the unit (March-May), is it perhaps that his recollection conflates the events of a longer time period, not only with respect to himself but others as well? While impossible to ignore, the testimony even of eyewitnesses requires judicious--if not juridical--assessment whether due to motives of self-advertisement or natural human failings. Despite their obvious limitations, the mute testimony of the visual record, especially the photographs, can provide a necessary corrective to the appeal of the written record, even when it is the eloquent fabrication of hyperbolic national advertisements. VBR, Stef ----- Original Message ----- From: "Volker Häusler" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 10:31 PM Subject: Re: Rangehen - was: RE: Wolff's DIII was: Re: LvR's Albatros D.III? | Sharon, | | I think we actually agree on the "value" of this book, when you say | | "Oh, I entirely agree with your assessment of the writing and its status as | propaganda. The book is NOT a good read at all. But it has enough things | in it that are corroberated elsewhere, that a careful hand can pick out the | items of value. | The dialogue sounds to me as if it was lifted wholly from the letters of | these men, as I said. There are little tossaway things: like a comment that | Festner's one big desire is to be a completely reliable back-up to his | comrades in the Jasta -- that don't serve to move the story forward, so why | put them in? It backs up a lot of what I have read about Festner (for this | specific example) and a lot of the other things can be backed up, too." | | Definitely, this book used some original sources (he names Haenelt from the | Kriegswissenschaftliche Abteilung of the Luftwaffe, essentially in charge of | the archives). But his aim obviously is propaganda and not historical | correctness. Just one example: If we trust him in the description of Wolff's | plane as "violet", then we must also consider that he claims (in the same | chapter) that Schaefer's was "yellow with a black tail", Allmenroeder's | "field grey" and Luebbert's "half yellow, half blue" (all of them in Jasta | 11 time). All seem to contradict known colours in these cases. It's just | like in those Squadron OT profiles: There are so many questionable things | inside, that it's difficult to find those which might be correct. | | Volker | | | | | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:33:20 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: photographic musings Message-ID: <059f01c05e0f$e9b2bf60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Since there is so much controversy about ortho colour rendering, there is no modern study of this taking photographs of known tonal values under natural sunlight using vintage photo cameras and films? Is it so impossible/futile? Just curiosity... D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:49:46 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Windsock Nov/Dec 2000 Message-ID: <200012041649.RAA09068@mail-relay.eunet.no> Hei, Just got the latest issue of Windsock, seems to be a winner. Here are some highlights: Voisin type III LA profiled by Sir Harry, colour photos of survivors from Le Bourget and Monino, contemporary drawings and clear b/w photos as well har his own sketches. Blue Max Halberstadt built and superdetailed by Tom Morgan, impressive. Pomillo biplanes and Ansalado A-1 camouflage by Alberto Casirati. Nine pages of reviews and news, including 1/72 spoked wheels from Elf. New titles from Albatross include SE5/SE5a Squadrons by Les Rogers, supposed to be available now at 17.00GBP for subscribers or 18.50 others. Same offer on the Airco DH4 Special. Datafile programme: Short 184, Macchi M.5, Albatros B.1, Ansalado A.1 SSW R.1, Sopwith B.1/Cuckoo (Looks like the Sopwith "Atlantic") Ray is also asking for volunters to write about French aircraft in WW1 since they have been neglected, but he is very interested in publishing. (MattB, is you behind this?) Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 14:13:17 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: DH4 in balloon scale?? Message-ID: Just saw a big e-tailer taking pre-orders for a 1/48 scale DH4 by Glencoe. . . anyone know when this is to be released??? (or was this discussed on a thread I missed?) Need one for a post war mailplane for my museum job. If it's too far in the future, anyone got one in 72 they'd be willing to part with? MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 11:54:17 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: DH4 in balloon scale?? Message-ID: <200012041753.JAB03672@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:38:41 -0500 (EST), Mark Vaughan-Jackson wrote: > Need one for a post war mailplane for my museum job. > If it's too far in the future, anyone got one in 72 they'd be willing to > part with? In 1/72nd, Pegasus has just released one. If you don't want to go that expensive - and don't care too much about accuracy - then pick up the Airfix kit. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 10:15:24 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: DH4 in balloon scale?? Message-ID: <3A2BDF3C.73391813@mars.ark.com> Mark Vaughan-Jackson wrote: "1/48 scale DH4 by Glencoe. . . anyone know when this is to be released???" They've had the tooling for years - it's the old AMT kit. The release seems to be onagain/off again. The archives have more. You might be quicker finding the original issue! Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:52:08 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: DH4 in balloon scale?? Message-ID: In a message dated 12/4/00 10:17:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, dcf@mars.ark.com writes: << "1/48 scale DH4 by Glencoe. . . anyone know when this is to be released???" They've had the tooling for years - it's the old AMT kit. The release seems to be onagain/off again. The archives have more. You might be quicker finding the original issue! Dave Fletcher >> Well, it's actually the old Aurora tooling- which may not be perfect, but from what I hear, it beats the heck out of the AMT kit (I don't think I've ever seen one of these in "real" life). It must be 3 or 4 years since Glencoe originally announced this release. RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:00:20 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Nylon Thread help Message-ID: <0C9947CED778D411B8BD0008C7FAA642A52029@emerald.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy! I'm curious if there is something I can use to glue nylon thread together with. I want to build some tiny rat lines for an ot 17th Century sailing vessel. I don't want to use CA. I was hoping that Pro Weld or something like that would work. Any help? Brent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 20:29:17 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Die Maschine Greim wird beendet - hehe my German is terrible.... Message-ID: <007f01c05e28$7e4185e0$f5a072d4@custom-pc> Endlich (sans comma) habe ich die Maschine Greims fertig! is perfect. Endlich habe ich die Arbeiten am Modell beendet! would be perfect also! Hals- und Beinbruch Hans ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 14:48:37 EST From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Albatros Axle attachment ? Message-ID: <4e.e31eaed.275d4f15@aol.com> Afternoon to everyone, I have a question about the Albatros D.lll axle. Just how is the axle held on to the Landing gear, are there guide blocks? I have read somewhere that rubber bungees were used, were these just wrapped around the axle and struts? I have checked my books and while one can see many pictures of wheels on the outside, the area of attachment for the axle is always in the shadows or is just to far away to see very well. Can anyone tell or show me just how this attachment looks? After all the work I went through to get these metal LG. struts on I would like the axle attachment to look proper. Thanks a bunch, Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 16:27:32 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: DH4 in balloon scale?? Message-ID: >In a message dated 12/4/00 10:17:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, >dcf@mars.ark.com writes: > ><< > "1/48 scale DH4 by Glencoe. . . anyone know when this is to be > released???" > > They've had the tooling for years - it's the old AMT kit. The release > seems to be onagain/off again. The archives have more. You might be > quicker finding the original issue! > > Dave Fletcher >> > >Well, it's actually the old Aurora tooling- which may not be perfect, but >from what I hear, it beats the heck out of the AMT kit (I don't think I've >ever seen one of these in "real" life). >It must be 3 or 4 years since Glencoe originally announced this release. >RK I guess the upshot of all this is. . .I won't be holding my breath and I will be tracking down an Airfix one :-( Too bad I foolishly sold mine a few years ago. Darn. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 13:55:59 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Link added Message-ID: <200012041955.LAA07970@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Just added the link to Roden on the Links page. Remember that, listee's... :-) Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:55:30 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Weathering Leather Message-ID: <0C9947CED778D411B8BD0008C7FAA642A5202C@emerald.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy! I've been unhappy with the weathering of my leather seats. What methods do ya'll use? My only references are my worn motorcycle jacket and memories of horse saddles. Should the seat be worn to the point the finish has disappeared to reveal a lighter shade? Or should it be worn smooth with dark stains in the most worn areas? What are some techniques for achieving this effect? Thanks! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 14:01:33 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Roden Pfalz Message-ID: <200012042001.MAA00541@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Those working on the Roden Pfalz, I'm curious - how does the nose piece fit? What about level of cockpit detail? TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2867 **********************