WWI Digest 2859 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Closet nazis. Was Engineering Innovations German vs. Allied by "DAVID BURKE" 2) Re: What am I - Chopped Liver? was December Internet Modeler by "DAVID BURKE" 3) Re: Wish List by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 4) Louvers by "Matt Bittner" 5) Re: What am I - Chopped Liver? was December Internet Modeler by "Matt Bittner" 6) Re: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! by "Mike Franklin" 7) Re: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! by "Dale Sebring" 8) Snow Storm - Wish List by Brent Theobald 9) Re: Louvers by "Lance Krieg" 10) Re: Nieuport 17 prop logos by "Dale Beamish" 11) RE: Matte Finish for Stainless Steel by "Lance Krieg" 12) Re: Snow Storm - Wish List by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 13) [FYI] Almost OT Kit Alert by Brent Theobald 14) Re: Future &tamiya flat base again by Al Superczynski 15) RE: Matte Finish for Stainless Steel by Brent Theobald 16) Re: Sharon got the boot by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 17) (ot) Christmas is here by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 18) Roden Fokker E.V Photos by smperry@mindspring.com 19) Re: Roden Fokker E.V Photos by "Dale Sebring" 20) RE: MoS Type L by Todd Hayes 21) Re: Roden Fokker E.V Photos by "Brian Nicklas" 22) NASM Nieuport 28 prop logos by "Brian Nicklas" 23) wing Ripple!!!!!! EHHHH by JVT7532@aol.com 24) Re: Roden Fokker E.V Photos by "Lyle Lamboley" 25) Heads up 1:72 Modelers by Todd Hayes 26) Re: Heads up 1:72 Modelers by "Matt Bittner" 27) Re: Roden Fokker E.V Photos by "Matt Bittner" 28) Sharon's Back.... by "Sharon Henderson" 29) Re: Swan 3 Strutter question by Steve Cox 30) Re: Roden Fokker E.V Photos by smperry@mindspring.com 31) BM wing ripple by "Bucky" 32) LvR's Albatros D.III? by "Stefen Karver" 33) Re: LvR's Albatros D.III? by "John & Allison Cyganowski" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:29:40 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Closet nazis. Was Engineering Innovations German vs. Allied Message-ID: <009201c05bcd$5e7dcd20$01e479a5@com> Enough. Back to OT if you please. DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:33:05 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: What am I - Chopped Liver? was December Internet Modeler Message-ID: <009901c05bcd$8915bb60$01e479a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pearson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:36 PM Subject: Re: What am I - Chopped Liver? was December Internet Modeler > Hey, I forgot DB too... but I did remember Al this time > > Bob > That's O.K. I'm used to it. My parents send me Christmas cards addressed: To Whom It May Concern.... DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:12:43 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Wish List Message-ID: >I want a Staaken ...a really big one :) > >Candice If the maestro of the mini scale Bittner won't rise to this one I will. . . But Candice, surely size doesn't matter it's what you do with it. . .the kit that is. ;-) MVJ (Diving for friendly lines - actually diving into a snowbank. . .my home city just got effectively shut down by the first snowstorm of the year. 16 cms so far with another 20 due over night whipped into nice inpenetrable whiteouts by 90 kph winds. As a reporter I stay on at work while the rest of the city goes home. . .hence the off colour comment. My apologies, we're getting a bit sitr crazy with the snow howling outside.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 13:36:06 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Louvers Message-ID: <200012011935.LAA14880@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Probably a candidate for the FAQ - especially with my memory - but how to people replicate louvers in 1/72nd? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 13:40:25 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: What am I - Chopped Liver? was December Internet Modeler Message-ID: <200012011940.LAA00433@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:39:06 -0500 (EST), DAVID BURKE wrote: > That's O.K. I'm used to it. My parents send me Christmas cards addressed: > To Whom It May Concern.... Odd. I thought I detected an email message, but nothing was there. Hmmm... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 11:40:56 -0800 From: "Mike Franklin" To: Subject: Re: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! Message-ID: <000001c05bce$e7d41380$deecfc9e@picker> Roger that, Mike Franklin Bellingham, WA USA "No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit" ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Leonard To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 11:22 AM Subject: Re: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! > Do me a favour and stick a 1/48 Kosciuszko insignia on there for my Ansaldo > ;) > > Peter L > > Mike Franklin wrote: > > > > Alberto, > > > now if we could only get some decal maker to produce those lovely and > > > unique squadriglia markings for the Hanriot. > > > Gabe > > > > I am working on just such a set. Will be available in all scales. > > > > Mike Franklin > > Bellingham, WA USA > > > > "No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit" > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:44:31 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! Message-ID: <004d01c05bcf$209ea680$acb58dd0@main> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Franklin" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! > > Alberto, > > now if we could only get some decal maker to produce those lovely and > > unique squadriglia markings for the Hanriot. > > Gabe > > I am working on just such a set. Will be available in all scales. > > Mike Franklin > Bellingham, WA USA > > "No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit" > Great Mike, I just finished my Hanriot :-(....but at least in Italian!) > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:47:46 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Snow Storm - Wish List Message-ID: <0C9947CED778D411B8BD0008C7FAA642A52021@emerald.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy! You mean to tell me you don't have a few vacs or resin kits stashed in your desk to sand on? I always have a few in my desk for just such emergencies. Er... Not snow storms specifically. Just extended periods of downtime. Later! Brent -----Original Message----- [snippage] .my homecity just got effectively shut down by the first snowstorm of the year. 16 cms so far with another 20 due over night whipped into nice inpenetrable whiteouts by 90 kph winds. As a reporter I stay on at work while the rest of the city goes home. . .hence the off colour comment. My apologies, we're getting a bit sitr crazy with the snow howling outside.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 13:50:25 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Louvers Message-ID: Matt wants to know: "...how ... people replicate louvers in 1/72nd?" The easy way, or the hard way? Working louvers in 1/72 may be a stretch, so here's a couple of approaches: Use quarter-round styreen rod, heat-stretched to your preferred thickness (thin-ness). Chop to length and glue in place. Paint flat side black to simulate opening. OR check out the HO railroad section of the hobby shop, that sells louver panels pre-made. I fondled some for quite a while just last Tuesday, before deciding they were a tad too small. In the manly scale, of course, they can be vacuformed ala George Lee's approach. See? We Iowegians are full of good ideas! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:50:02 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: Nieuport 17 prop logos Message-ID: <022401c05bd0$32d4b5a0$9831b8a1@darcy> > I have done the art for several German prop logos, and would like to a sheet > of any of any country that can be documented. Lets put together a list of > what's needed and where the art might be available. I will put out a sheet > in any scale. > Mike Franklin > Bellingham, WA USA You people should take him up on this!!! His work is FANTASTIC!!! Highly, highly recommended! Dale ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 13:55:49 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: Matte Finish for Stainless Steel Message-ID: Brent asks: "A related question: Has anyone tried tightening a painted nylon line using the heat method? Does the paint shrink with the line or does it flake off?" Yep (or is that "yup"?), I've stretched it, painted with the self-same stuff. Nope, it don't flake. Ya'll turned right back into a Texian, one week from leaving Minnesota, eh? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:34:44 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Snow Storm - Wish List Message-ID: >Howdy! > >You mean to tell me you don't have a few vacs or resin kits stashed in your >desk to sand on? I always have a few in my desk for just such emergencies. >Er... Not snow storms specifically. Just extended periods of downtime. > >Later! > >Brent Well I do have close to $200 bucks of kits in the back of the car outside. . .only problem is said car resembles an igloo right now. A vaguely round lump in the snow. At least I'm assuming it's my car. Our parking lot looks more like a field of ski moguls right now. :-( Ahh well maybe I'll just surf the net a bit. later MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:12:20 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: [FYI] Almost OT Kit Alert Message-ID: <0C9947CED778D411B8BD0008C7FAA642A52022@emerald.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy! I received my Squadron flyer for December on Monday. I noticed they had the Classic Resin Airframes He-60 on sale for $30ish bucks (hey it's a biplane all right). I immediately ordered one because I usually see them for around $70. It arrived yesterday. This is a very large kit! Looks like a good deal to me. The parts look very nice too. Don't know when I'll build it, but I have one now for when I find the time. I don't know if it is a typo on SMO's part or just a good deal. If you want one you may want to call 'em up soon though. I bet it's the usual while supplies last routine. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 14:11:24 -0600 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Future &tamiya flat base again Message-ID: On Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:16:26 -0500 (EST), Ray wrote: >I used to use Pollyscale flat and Future as my off flat finish. Of >course I can't get polly scale flat anymore. Has anyone got substitutes... I like Badger's Modelflex clear flat - you might have to get it from a model RR shop. HTH, Al http://www.up-link.net/~modeleral ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:16:26 -0600 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Matte Finish for Stainless Steel Message-ID: <0C9947CED778D411B8BD0008C7FAA642A52023@emerald.telecom.sna.samsung.com> Howdy! Lance asks: Ya'll turned right back into a Texian, one week from leaving Minnesota, eh? I never knew I changed from a Texan... But I do get to wear my cowboy boots to work every day. Really! Yep = West Texas Yup = East and South Texas So both are acceptable. OT Content: MVR was never known to utter ya'll, yep, or yup. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 07:32:16 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sharon got the boot Message-ID: <3A280AD0.D1C976C7@tac.com.au> Allan Wright wrote: > > Someone who knows Sharon Henderson, tell her that her mail is messed > up and the listserver booted her from the WWI and CCI lists. > > Forward my appologies too > Thenks, > Allan Hi Allan, Have forwarded the message to Sharon - her email is playing up on her :-( Shane Attending APMA's AGM very shortly ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:35:15 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: (ot) Christmas is here Message-ID: For those of you who dabble deeply enough in the "dark side" as to do airplanes where the prop is inside the fuselage and the tailskid is a wheel on the nose, Marco Polo has just had their Hasegawa "Scooter" arrive. One word: mmmmmmmm!! Definitely enough to make one a "sinner." TC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:05:07 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Roden Fokker E.V Photos Message-ID: <01a901c05bda$633093e0$1af3aec7@default> Check: http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/e5.htm and see my latest victim, the Roden Fokker E.V done in Polish colors. The interior is a salvaged brass one from an Eduard D.VIII, as are the PE Spandaus. Engine and prop from the salvage box (they were pre painted ). I used the kit lozenge and toned it down with tinted Future. sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:18:44 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: Roden Fokker E.V Photos Message-ID: <000501c05bdc$4a28e260$10b58dd0@main> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 2:04 PM Subject: Roden Fokker E.V Photos Steve, nice E.V. Excellent craftsmanship :-) Dale > Check: http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/e5.htm and see my latest > victim, the Roden Fokker E.V done in Polish colors. > > The interior is a salvaged brass one from an Eduard D.VIII, as are the PE > Spandaus. Engine and prop from the salvage box (they were pre painted ). > > I used the kit lozenge and toned it down with tinted Future. > > sp > > E-mail smperry@mindspring.com > Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:44:10 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: MoS Type L Message-ID: <20001201204410.56787.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> Brent, I'm not familiar with Tupolev a/c, but Master Club have just rereleased a 1:72 kit by Tu. $290.00!!! Todd --- Brent Theobald wrote: > Howdy Todd, > > I am aware of the Master Club Il'ya. As Lance has > mentioned they've been > working on a Voison as well. By the way, I feel they > could pull off an Il'ya > since they had a 1/72 Bear offered at one time. > > All this talk of scratch building wings has me > thinking of doing my own > Il'ya. The problem is the extremely thin wings. As I > understand it I can > make an airfoil shape out of cardstock and then wrap > it around a coffee can > to curve it? It sounds crazy, but it just might > work! > > I love this list! > > Brent > > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Hayes [mailto:thayes_52601@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 10:47 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: MoS Type L > > > Hi Brent, > > Master Club is working on a 1:48 Il'ya. But as one > listee stated, it should cost about "$1000", > considering the price of the 1:48 Sikorski S.XVI (of > which I have two ordered from Avia Press). Maybe > the > list could all chip in to buy the Il'ya. Then none > of > us would have to go without food for more than a > month. I nominate myself as trustee. > > Todd > > > > --- Brent Theobald wrote: > > Howdy Matt, > > > > >>>Why do you think you bought it for only $2? I > > think it was originally > > 12 or so bucks. I didn't say it wasn't buildable, > > just that you'll use > > plenty of sandpaper to get there. > > > > Ah yes! Hours and hours of modeling pleasure. Did > > you hear about the new > > really ot Tu-16 from Trumpeter? With more big kits > > like this coming out I > > keep hoping for a 1/48 I'lya. (I know, which would > > excite you no end...) :) > > > > >>>And yes, it is accurate, just thick. :-P`` > > > > I wonder which will get done first? The MoS or the > > 1/48 I'lya? Right now > > it's a dead heat. > > > > Later! > > > > Brent > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of > Products. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:39:38 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roden Fokker E.V Photos Message-ID: As I realized the Sign D.VIII has the wrong shape but great photo etch, I too will be supplanting my Roden kit. But with the Sign parts and tossing the Sign fuselage and wings into the fire... And I hope I can get it somewhere as nice as yours. (And yes, the Albatros comes first...) Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:42:23 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: NASM Nieuport 28 prop logos Message-ID: The NASM Nieuport 28 prop logo is wording with the following: Helice "Levasseur" Brevete S.G.D.G. (with accents where applicable) Not what was being seached for, but rules it out. I will try to get an image copy for the usual suspects... Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:13:54 EST From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: wing Ripple!!!!!! EHHHH Message-ID: In a message dated 12/1/2000 2:38:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: << Jon: Have you tried actually sending the the faulty wing back to where you purchased them and requesting a replacement? If you're thinking of scratchbuilding new wings, the rippled ones are going to be of little use anyway, so he might as well have them. >> Oh yes Michael, I have thought about it and offered in my email to do so first before the replacements are sent so he could be sure I was not doing him a dirty deed. The fact is I have sent him 4 emails since the 14th and he will not even acknowledge receiving them, I have sent him a question about ordering new kits to this same email address using my other screen name and got a reply in a few days. So what am I to think? Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:15:32 -0500 From: "Lyle Lamboley" To: Subject: Re: Roden Fokker E.V Photos Message-ID: <004101c05be4$3e7b1a20$03dcd73f@lylelamb> Steve, Very nice job on the Fokker!--your solution to tinting the kit lozenge had good results, IMHO. Would it be too nosy to ask what color you chose for the tinting? How about the wing green? Is that delving into the realm of that alchemy stuff? :-) Lyle PS I have that LVG stuff copied and ready to send ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:20:33 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Heads up 1:72 Modelers Message-ID: <20001201222033.72904.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> Heads ups 1:72 Modelers, Aviapress just sent me their latest update. They have the Eastern Express MoS. N, and Vickers Vimy available for on-line orders. Just thought you might like to know. TH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 17:13:27 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Heads up 1:72 Modelers Message-ID: <200012012313.PAA00547@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:43:51 -0500 (EST), Todd Hayes wrote: > Aviapress just sent me their latest update. They have > the Eastern Express MoS. N, and Vickers Vimy available > for on-line orders. Just thought you might like to > know. The MoS is the Temeks Type I kit, with better decals. FWIW... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 17:13:53 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Roden Fokker E.V Photos Message-ID: <200012012313.PAA01895@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:04:01 -0500 (EST), smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > Check: http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/e5.htm and see my latest > victim, the Roden Fokker E.V done in Polish colors. Very nice! Keep up the great work! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:19:37 -0800 From: "Sharon Henderson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Sharon's Back.... Message-ID: <200012012319.PAA05934@mail14.bigmailbox.com> Hi folks, Thanks to all the nice folks who sent me a note about the bouncing mail. My mail server went belly-up Monday afternoon, and I still don't know when it will be back up -- so I subscribed through this address. :-) Still (technically) unemployed, still cranking ever-so-slowly on that Albatros.... :-) And researching the life of the off-topic (except that he was born in 1914!) Oberleutnant Franz von Werra, for a book I'm writing. If anyone wants to discuss him or his AC offline, this is where you write.... :-) Cheers and thanks again, Sharon ------------------------------------------------------------ Powered by Microsith Lookout - http://www.microsith.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 23:24:47 +0000 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Swan 3 Strutter question Message-ID: Michael, while I would agree the cowl appears a different shade to the fuselage panelling it doesn't look to be the same tone as the red of the other markings. I would tend to go for a silver cowl (or Voss yellow) Regards Steve nb =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:51:39 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: WWI digest 2792 > > Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 16:00:14 GMT > From: "Michael Kendix" > To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Subject: Swan 3 Strutter question > Message-ID: > > I would opinions on the colour of the front cowl of the single seat Sopwith > 1 1/2 Strutter 1.B1 I'm building. I'm actually building the Toko kit but am > using the left over decals from the Flashback kit with the "Swan" and "3" on > the fuselage sides. The box art on the Flashback kit shows a red cowl, > whereas the FMP French WW1 aeroplane tome/book shows a silver coloured > cowl. There are photos of the aeroplane around page 475 of the book. Any > opinions? Silver or red? > > Michael ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:30:19 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Roden Fokker E.V Photos Message-ID: <005d01c05bee$ac0c3880$27f9aec7@default> > Very nice job on the Fokker!--your solution to tinting the kit lozenge had > good results, IMHO. Would it be too nosy to ask what color you chose for > the tinting? How about the wing green? Is that delving into the realm of > that alchemy stuff? :-) Thanks for the kind words.Lyle, but there's no alchemy here. I used the new Testors acrylic Olive for the wing & cowl, etc. I used a bit of this and some black in future to make the tint. I used india ink for the black and don't recommend mixing this with Future. It forms mico drops. An Acrylic like Mars Black would work better. > PS I have that LVG stuff copied and ready to send Thanks, Looking forward to checking it out. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 08:48:20 +0900 From: "Bucky" To: Subject: BM wing ripple Message-ID: <003b01c05bf1$5d092420$2a4207d3@compaqcomputer> Jon, Noted your post re: infamous Blue Max wing ripple problem. I don't know it Alberto's otherwise ingenious scratch wing/boiling water deal is the way to go towards addressing your problem. I have the same Brisfit kit, and was able to take care of it by merely sanding the ripples out between layered sprayings of Gunze Mr. Surfacer 500. Of course, I lost all those nice rib tapes in the process, but was able to make new ones by masking with narrow strips of tape and spraying more Surfacer rather thickly on appropriately spaced gaps, sanding resulting ridges level, then scoring down the middle with an X-Acto for the stitching. It worked nicely. Bucky ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 06:54:56 -0500 From: "Stefen Karver" To: Subject: LvR's Albatros D.III? Message-ID: <000e01c05c56$b30eac40$2f6dd6d8@stephen> G;day, List-- With the question of Lothar's D.VII put to rest a few days ago, I would now like to ask about his Albatros D.III. A profile at Pilots and Planes http://209.235.66.44/WW1/Germans/Pilots/JPGS/LvR_10.jpg shows an ambiguously red/brown fuselage and orange band (rather in the manner of Simon's green one). Is this meant to be some sort of stained wood or a variant of the Jasta red? Fudged shade by the artist to enhance the color contrast with the band? Any photos (conveniently) available? All help will be appreciated. TIA and regards, Stef And, BTW, is there any reason to assume that Kurt Wolff's dark-appearing D.III is not in the unit's color? GvW (?) is rather tentative about assigning the aircraft a hue in vRFC (Von Richtofen's Flying Circus). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:16:05 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: LvR's Albatros D.III? Message-ID: <000f01c05bf5$10f5e740$6d37183f@cyrixp166> Hi Stef, The ambiguously red/brown fuselage is meant to be be red/brown. The standard interpretation of Albatros fighter photos for many years was that the fuselages were delivered in an varnished finish. Some of the photos seem to be dark so the feeling was that the wood had been stained a dark color on the dark aircraft. (See Datafile #1. Albatros D.III). Recently, A new interpretation has been that despite the dark finishes in the photos, these too were a light natural finished wood. Dan-San Abbott has been a proponent of theis view. He asserts that a yellow tint was added to the varnish which imparted a very warm yellow color to the wood. This color some times appears dark in photos taken with orthochromatic film. I subscribe to this view. (Silence you cowl crowd!) I think there is a partial photo in Imre's German Air Aces of this D.III Sharon Henderson is the Wolff expert here. However at the risk of intruding on here turf, I think it is pretty well accepted that his ship was an eggplant color. There may be written evidence. Regards, Cyg. > G;day, List-- > With the question of Lothar's D.VII put to rest a few days ago, I would now > like to ask about his Albatros D.III. > A profile at Pilots and Planes > > http://209.235.66.44/WW1/Germans/Pilots/JPGS/LvR_10.jpg > > shows an ambiguously red/brown fuselage and orange band (rather in the > manner of Simon's green one). Is this meant to be some sort of stained wood > or a variant of the Jasta red? Fudged shade by the artist to enhance the > color contrast with the band? Any photos (conveniently) available? > All help will be appreciated. > TIA and regards, > Stef > > And, BTW, is there any reason to assume that Kurt Wolff's dark-appearing > D.III is not in the unit's color? GvW (?) is rather tentative about > assigning the aircraft a hue in vRFC (Von Richtofen's Flying Circus). > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2859 **********************