WWI Digest 2843 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Model pics by "Ray Boorman" 2) Re: 1/48th Junkers D1 I think by Ernest Thomas 3) RE: 1/48th Junkers D1 I think by "Ray Boorman" 4) keeping in Ebay by "dfernet0" 5) Re: Model pics by GRBroman@aol.com 6) Re: keeping in Ebay by "Matt Bittner" 7) RE: keeping in Ebay by "dfernet0" 8) RE: keeping in Ebay by "Matt Bittner" 9) RE: 1/48th Junkers D1 I think by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 10) Re:Liquitex & Ceramcoat by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 11) tiny spads RE: keeping in Ebay by "dfernet0" 12) Re: Model pics by "Matt Bittner" 13) keeping french by "dfernet0" 14) Cobby was ( theaerodrome.com) by "cameron rile" 15) Re: tiny spads RE: keeping in Ebay by smperry@mindspring.com 16) RE: tiny spads RE: keeping in Ebay by "dfernet0" 17) Re: It's that time again by "Lance Krieg" 18) Re: tiny spads RE: keeping in Ebay by "Michael Kendix" 19) Re: 1/48th Junkers D1 I think by Peter Leonard 20) Re: USN Hanriots rudder colors by "Lance Krieg" 21) Re: Various Stuff by "Nigel Rayner" 22) Re: tiny spads RE: keeping in Ebay by Peter Leonard 23) Re: It's that time again by Peter Leonard 24) Re: Award for Mark!! by Mark Miller 25) RE: Liquitex & Ceramcoat by "Graham Hunter" 26) New Stuff on Webpages - BE2e in particular by "Steven Schofield" 27) Re: Felixstowe references by "Lance Krieg" 28) Re: New Stuff on Webpages - BE2e in particular by "Matt Bittner" 29) Re: Felixstowe references by "Matt Bittner" 30) Re: 1/48th Junkers D1 I think by "David C. Fletcher" 31) Re: New Stuff on Webpages - BE2e in particular by "Michael Kendix" 32) Re: New Stuff on Webpages - BE2e in particular by smperry@mindspring.com 33) More Cook-up Matters was (RE: Award for Mark!!) by "cameron rile" 34) RE: Cobby was ( theaerodrome.com) by "Ray Boorman" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:42:07 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: Model pics Message-ID: The Kondor E3/DI was one of the aircraft that took part in the third fighter competion of 1918. More info is in WS 13/#2 There was also an E3a. The picture says it must be a vac or resin model. However it could also be a scratchbuilt entry imho. Ray -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of TomTheAeronut@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 10:05 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Model pics Could someone tell me what that Kondor D.I is?? TIA Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:48:18 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/48th Junkers D1 I think Message-ID: <3A22AC71.68C26184@bellsouth.net> "David C. Fletcher" wrote: > Is anyone interested in > the Fun Model D.1 or do I have to build it myself? Dave, Seeing as how I'm the curret high bidder, I'd like to know more if you can tell me. It's kinda hard to tell from the photo on ebay. Are the wings in two pieces per panel? And I can't locate the fin/rudder in the pic. Could it be on the single sheet with all the other small parts? Also, any instructions? Anything else you can tell me that I should know? Tia. E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:46:54 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: 1/48th Junkers D1 I think Message-ID: We'd best leave this model alone or else E will bite us.... Bitemedave lol I would think that has to be that has to be none other than Ernest!! Ray -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Todd Hayes Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 9:48 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: 1/48th Junkers D1 I think Both are WW1. --- Ray Boorman wrote: > I just saw this on ebay. i would swear that even > though it says wwii junkers > J1 its really a resin D1. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=505056738 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:56:41 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: keeping in Ebay Message-ID: <007101c058a3$c7994c80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Have you seen this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=507350342 interesting kit. A bit pricey, I think, but a neat idea for a diorama in the right scale. has anyone have seen this one "on the flesh"? How is it? Is the Spad on this combo better than Revell's or Esci's or Airfix' (since there's no indication is it's a VII or a XIII)? D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:59:04 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Model pics Message-ID: Hey matt, did Scott pots any pictures of the three Mark IV's yet? BTW, that big blue (ot) flying wing should look familiar ;) Glen In a message dated Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:24:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Matt Bittner" writes: << Modeling Madness has been running photo's the editor took at a model contest in Chicago. The latest installment has three very nicely done 1/72nd on topic kits. The interesting part is the F.I with the *yellow* cowl in Voss' markings. This is *not* to start another olive/yellow discussion, instead I'm posting the link for those who want to see what a yellow Voss cowl looks like - as well as the other two well done kits. Scroll to the middle of the page: http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/features/boj.htm Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:02:09 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: keeping in Ebay Message-ID: <200011271901.LAA01957@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:02:53 -0500 (EST), dfernet0 wrote: > interesting kit. A bit pricey, I think, but a neat idea for a diorama in the > right scale. has anyone have seen this one "on the flesh"? How is it? Is the > Spad on this combo better than Revell's or Esci's or Airfix' (since there's > no indication is it's a VII or a XIII)? Airfix SPAD 7. Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:06:18 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: keeping in Ebay Message-ID: <008701c058a5$1f8c2420$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> MAtt wrote: > Airfix SPAD 7. yuck! Eduard! Eduard! Help! HEEEEELP! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:14:25 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: keeping in Ebay Message-ID: <200011271914.LAA25389@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:12:13 -0500 (EST), dfernet0 wrote: > Eduard! Eduard! Help! HEEEEELP! NO DOUBT!! Man, one of the largest needs in modeling, for both scales! Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:52:19 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: 1/48th Junkers D1 I think Message-ID: Ray wrote: "Bitemedave. lol I would think that has to be that has to be none other than Ernest!!" and which Dave would this be, E?? inquiring minds want to know?? ;-) MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:11:35 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re:Liquitex & Ceramcoat Message-ID: <852569A4.006A421B.00@stmfd-gateway2.hyperion.com> Ray & SP, I have found that thinning with Future also works really well with Ceramcoat. It smooths it out and makes it take masking better. I have used the Blending Medium for extending drying time when brushing these as well. Future seems to be the best thinner for these paints with distilled water a close second. I then use rubbing alcohol or denatured alcohol to clean up. I checked out the Liquitex Airbrush medium. A "sniff" test(opened the bottle and gave it a sniff) showed that is seems to be pretty much the same as Future, only milky. When brushing these paints and a flat finish is desired, mix in either of their Matt Mediums. This will also thin the paint. I will be trying some Liquitex this weekend, but it sounds as if Ray and sp have already covered this ground..... Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:19:26 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: tiny spads RE: keeping in Ebay Message-ID: <009701c058a6$f5893800$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Maybe this is going too far, but is possible to replace the awful airfix Spad VII wings for the slightly better Revell Spad XIII wings? Are those very different? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 4:18 PM Subject: RE: keeping in Ebay > On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:12:13 -0500 (EST), dfernet0 wrote: > > > Eduard! Eduard! Help! HEEEEELP! > > NO DOUBT!! Man, one of the largest needs in modeling, for both scales! > > > Matt Bittner > "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:27:40 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Model pics Message-ID: <200011271927.LAA16796@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:05:26 -0500 (EST), GRBroman@aol.com wrote: > Hey matt, did Scott pots any pictures of the three Mark IV's yet? BTW, that > big blue (ot) flying wing should look familiar ;) Not directly, but there's a Mk.IV in the background in the first image of: http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/features/boi.htm Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:25:36 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: keeping french Message-ID: <00a901c058a7$d1d5b400$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Another french model question..... I've ordered a flashback Voisin from Jadar some months ago, via fax... and still no answer from them. Do I have to order another one form a more reliable source? Is Jadar very slow on deliveries? D. who spent part of the sunday fondling "Les Cigognes" decals sheet from Americal... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:46:23 -0600 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Cobby was ( theaerodrome.com) Message-ID: Ray, >I was searching for references to a book on AH Cobby yesterday Best book for it is the 1980 reprint of "High Adventure", but get it direct from the publishers, Kookaburra, for approx $40 AUD. Interesting thing about the 1980 reprint is the appendix by Wilfred McClaughry, it seems when they were both in 4 Sqn AFC, they didnt get along and there was a lot of social friction between the Cobby gang and the brothers McClaughry. The appendix was added after Cobbys death. http://www.sympac.com.au/jtboundy/HkookaFO.htm For books and references to do with the AFC, the AFC Website has a section that links AFC books to their Australian sellers and publishers. http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/afc_references.htm >entire Aerodrome site was down. It has been up and down like a dunny seat lately. Probably due to the bandwidth being asked of it. cam AFC - http://members.xoom.com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:48:45 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: tiny spads RE: keeping in Ebay Message-ID: <00f501c058ab$0e53d1c0$d9f0aec7@default> > Maybe this is going too far, but is possible to replace the awful airfix > Spad VII wings for the slightly better Revell Spad XIII wings? Are those > very different? > D. Aw break out the putty Buddy. Once you fix the wings, the Airfix Spad VII is a decent kit. ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:49:52 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: tiny spads RE: keeping in Ebay Message-ID: <00cf01c058ab$35b0b940$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Those ribs! I may use Barry's vac blanks better than fill those washing boards! But I always tend to the lesser effort. D. nl: Old Love, by Eric Clapton ooops it finished... wow! now it comes "Shine you crazy Diamond"! i love this radio station! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 4:48 PM Subject: Re: tiny spads RE: keeping in Ebay > > > Maybe this is going too far, but is possible to replace the awful airfix > > Spad VII wings for the slightly better Revell Spad XIII wings? Are those > > very different? > > D. > > Aw break out the putty Buddy. Once you fix the wings, the Airfix Spad VII is > a decent kit. ;-) > > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:53:17 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: It's that time again Message-ID: Everyone has made so much more progress than myself, I cannot help but to divide my stash of kits into the number of years remaining in life, and realize I either need to back off the AMS, or quit my job and devote myself to modeling. I finished exactly one model, CSM's Brandenburg W.12. The pace of my current project would suggest that I'll be lucky to get one done in 2001, too. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:56:38 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: tiny spads RE: keeping in Ebay Message-ID: >From: smperry@mindspring.com > >Aw break out the putty Buddy. Once you fix the wings, the Airfix Spad >VII >is a decent kit. ;-) I agree to some extent, namely, it is easier to redo the Airfix Spad VII wing than making the Revell Spad XIII wing into a Spad VII wing. Whether either of these options is "easy" is a different issue. I await Steve's completed article and explanation. Michael _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:02:58 +0000 From: Peter Leonard To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/48th Junkers D1 I think Message-ID: <3A22BDF2.1B6753D0@cwcom.net> It's a Czechmaster and the wings are solid. I cannot of couse comment on rumours that this is in anyway connected with the Blue Max kit cheers Peter L P.S, E, what IS a "Dave" and why should we bite it? Mark Vaughan-Jackson wrote: > Ray wrote: "Bitemedave. lol I would think that has to be that has to be > none other than Ernest!!" > > and which Dave would this be, E?? inquiring minds want to know?? ;-) > > MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:00:31 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: USN Hanriots rudder colors Message-ID: Tomasz, having learned about bollocks, still wonders about: "... HD.2 in Moseley's markings as it looked like in mid 1918. So, had USN Hanriots French style blue/white/red or USAS style red/white/blue rudders? Also had early USN Hanriots carried French roundels in 1917 before they were replaced by US roundels?" I cannot answer this without references that are at home, but I suspect my recently-purchased edition of Noel Shirley's "USNAS 1910-1918" has answers. If you have not already solved the problem, I will look tonight and advise tomorrow. HTH Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:06:32 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Re: Various Stuff Message-ID: <000a01c058ad$8a5fe220$6f79883e@w1o0t3> A digest mode reply: - To Paul T's *huge* list of completed kits - all I can say is Bloody Nora (as we say in my country) - How in heaven's name did you manage that lot? - Re Mark M's virtual Albatros - look at the 3D images with 3D glasses on and you'll be even more amazed (if looking a little foolish). Great piece of work Mark, thanks. - And more thanks to Al and Matt for all the great work on the site. And don't forget Cam Riley for all his great work on the cookup site. Cheers, Nigel PS managed a Toko Pfalz DXII (not worthy of photos) and an Eduard 1/72 Albatros for the cookup. That's all. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:11:00 +0000 From: Peter Leonard To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: tiny spads RE: keeping in Ebay Message-ID: <3A22BFD4.C444E70E@cwcom.net> No need to broach a second kit. The VII wings can be scratche fom a single thickness of 30 thou card. As has been said, take care of the wings and it's not too bad cheers Peter L dfernet0 wrote: > Maybe this is going too far, but is possible to replace the awful airfix > Spad VII wings for the slightly better Revell Spad XIII wings? Are those > very different? > D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Matt Bittner > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 4:18 PM > Subject: RE: keeping in Ebay > > > On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:12:13 -0500 (EST), dfernet0 wrote: > > > > > Eduard! Eduard! Help! HEEEEELP! > > > > NO DOUBT!! Man, one of the largest needs in modeling, for both scales! > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:28:28 +0000 From: Peter Leonard To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: It's that time again Message-ID: <3A22C3EC.A92C0F69@cwcom.net> Nurture a belief in reincarnation . I'm coming back as Michael Douglas' finger tips , but I hope to find some time for modeling too;) cheers Peter L Lance Krieg wrote: > Everyone has made so much more progress than myself, I cannot help but to divide my stash of kits into the number of years remaining in life, and realize I either need to back off the AMS, or quit my job and devote myself to modeling. > > I finished exactly one model, CSM's Brandenburg W.12. > > The pace of my current project would suggest that I'll be lucky to get one done in 2001, too. > > Lance ------------------------------ Date: 27 Nov 2000 12:34:39 -0800 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Award for Mark!! Message-ID: <20001127203439.10373.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Mon, 27 November 2000, "Brian Nicklas" wrote: > > Mark's Albatros renderings are incredible. > We should get that man an award of some sort. > Trophy, cash, I don't know, but something!! > Truly an amazing piece of work. > If I ever find a box of Mikesh's Albatros books in storage here someplace, > he gets the first copy! > > D. said : > "Simply amazing! I only wish that these renderings would have been present > in > the Mikesh Book in the first place. Brian N. you should warn to the NASM > staff about this outstanding work, maybe that would convince them to do > more > WW1 books -hopefully with Mark's renderings inside too!-" > > I agree, and I've told people here about Bob as well, I'd like to see both > of them used here at NASM. > > Brian Nicklas Thanks guys And a big thanks to the list and whoever it was that came up with this cookup idea. I'd been contemplating a major Albatros project like this for years - just never seemed to get around to it. The added incentive provided by this group project and the people involved was just what I needed to finally get off my butt and actually do it- and even more importantly - stick with it. This list is a wonderful thing :-) And as for the Mikesh book It is the single best source for AC structural data I've ever seen. There were several times I had myself convinced that I couldn't find the info I needed, but in most cases I just had to look harder. I've stared at it till my eyes bleed - and still I find more. So Brian, here's hoping you stumble upon that box of books, my copy has been unbound for at least 10 yrs. nb I'm pretty far into the wings now - external surfaces of the upper wing is modeled and mapped and it looks pretty nice. I'm not looking forward to the bottom wing though - I feel like I just did this - but it's different enough that I can't re-use any of the upper wing geometry. Maybe I'll do the radiator before tackling that lower wing. or I could work on the internal details ...there's a lot of stuff in there. I must admit, it would be nice to get published. But, I'll think about that when I'm done - right now I'm just having to much fun :-) Thanks again Mark Miller _______________________________________________________________________ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:02:28 -0600 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: Liquitex & Ceramcoat Message-ID: <000101c058b5$5a60ebc0$fa0101c0@grahamh> <> This seems to be what I have found since switching to acrylics. When sanding the stuff it has a tendency to flake off instead of sanding off. It just seems to be the solid colours, clear coats are okay. This problem is more pronounced with resin kits. So far Testors Acryl paints sand the best. I haven't had a chance to sand the Ceramcoat paint I started stocking up on. Any suggestions or fixes? Graham H. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 21:27:15 -0000 From: "Steven Schofield" To: Subject: New Stuff on Webpages - BE2e in particular Message-ID: <000b01c058b8$e08ae680$b8a993c3@oemcomputer> Hi, long tome no post... I've been updating my webpages, adding stuff to the kit database, changing the look of the opening page and I've added Scho's Kit List - I didn't realise how much I'd done (or how much is left to be done, for that matter.) But if you've got a strong stomach (no, I'm not kidding) try clicking on the 'Heartbreak Hotel' button to see how my Home Defence BE2e came out. Len will never let me pick up one of his models again after seeing this. Scho http://www.ww1.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:22:26 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Felixstowe references Message-ID: Ray, Matt must like you... he ignored a similar request from me. I have spent considerable time in the last several months finding reference notations on these planes, which I will send you off-list as an Excel spread sheet. Anyone else is, of course, welcome to this information. As a general observation, reference material on the Curtiss H-12, H-16, and the Felixstowe F-5L are also very useful in detailing the F2A, and should not be overlooked. But I believe the thrust of your inquiry was the colorful schemes employed at Yarmouth and Felixstowe, which Bob will have already provided via his CD. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:23:34 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: New Stuff on Webpages - BE2e in particular Message-ID: <200011272123.NAA18250@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:22:55 -0500 (EST), Steven Schofield wrote: > I've been updating my webpages, adding stuff to the kit database, changing > the look of the opening page and I've added Scho's Kit List - I didn't > realise how much I'd done (or how much is left to be done, for that matter.) > But if you've got a strong stomach (no, I'm not kidding) try clicking on the > 'Heartbreak Hotel' button to see how my Home Defence BE2e came out. > Len will never let me pick up one of his models again after seeing this. Bummer, dude. Now you know why I use wire. ;-) Sorry it turned out so horridly. :-( Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:29:18 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Felixstowe references Message-ID: <200011272129.NAB09611@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:27:32 -0500 (EST), Lance Krieg wrote: > Ray, Matt must like you... he ignored a similar request from me. Well, you are from Des Moines afterall... Actually what happened is that Ray's request came at home, where I have access to my db. When I try to remember to look in my db when I get home from work, it always fails. Memory, you know... Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:32:45 -0800 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/48th Junkers D1 I think Message-ID: <3A22D2FD.66EFBFB5@mars.ark.com> Ernest Thomas wrote: "Seeing as how I'm the current high bidder, I'd like to know more if you can tell me. It's kinda hard to tell from the photo on ebay. Are the wings in two pieces per panel? And I can't locate the fin/rudder in the pic. Could it be on the single sheet with all the other small parts? Also, any instructions? Anything else you can tell me that I should know? Tia." As long as I'm not the Dave being invited to bite... I see from other posts that this is not the same kit, although it certainly looks similar. The wings are one piece per panel and there is a fin and tailplane. My landing gear legs are metal, as is the seat, prop, radiator and exhaust stack (unlike the one on eBay). The engine is resin, as are the wheels (which look a little undersize) and the major parts. There is a plan, though it is rather rudimentary, and there are no decals. The fuselage casting is very thick and would benefit from some judicious thinning. It is not a bad kit, all said and done, and is certainly easier than scratchbuilding all that corrigated skin! There are some differences from the plans in the Datafile, but I am always skeptical of plans I didn't draw myself. It looks like a D.1 and that's what counts. Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 21:33:44 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Stuff on Webpages - BE2e in particular Message-ID: >But if you've got a strong stomach (no, I'm not kidding) try clicking >on >the 'Heartbreak Hotel' button to see how my Home Defence BE2e came >out. Scho: Good grief! Looks like someone stamped on it! All I can say is for about $10, VAMP sells a decent BE2e in resin. I'd give it a while until you feel like doing it again though. I have a packet of that elastic stuff you use for rigging and it is going nowhere near any of my kits. It may be useful for non-rigging purposes in dioramas and whatever, so I'll hang on to it. Michael _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:35:52 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: New Stuff on Webpages - BE2e in particular Message-ID: <012f01c058c2$669340c0$d9f0aec7@default> Scho: Looks like you've been irritating BvB ;-) Man what a heartbreaker. Sincere sympathies. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:47:50 -0600 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: More Cook-up Matters was (RE: Award for Mark!!) Message-ID: <891F5D3ABA4C4D115AA50005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com> >Mark's Albatros renderings are incredible. I enjoy seeing mails come into the OTProjects mailbox :) If I dont see a superb model, then I get to look at profiles or caricatures. Makes it very easy to participate in. I think there are potentially four deadtree publications on that website. Marks renderings, Bobs profiles, all the models and of course Diego's caricatures. The page has become a wonderful reference, we probably should extend the textual side of it if possible and try to encapsulate part of Stef's idea of mini-datafiles by adding comments on the particular Albatros marques by the pilots who flew them and by the pilots who flew against them. Probably best in the format; "who - comment - reference". Also the museum sections could do with some more images if people have photographs of museum Albatros aircraft they have seen lying about. The OTProjects mailbox also recieved some pictures of 1/8 Albatros aircraft from a couple of folks that as far as I can ascertain arent on the list. I dont really want to add them if they arent list members as that way the site will be getting Albatros models from all over the place, rather than actual cook-up entries. The mailbox also received a mail from Dan-San Abbot on Albatros camou schemes, it is as follows ( for the archives ); "Two years age I completed a study of finishing schemes used by the Albatros Werke, it's subsidiaries, and the license builders of Albatros designs. Simply put All Albatros D.II machines, all Alb.D.III machines through serial number D.2309/16 were camouflaged in three colors and their upper surfaces, pale whitish green, dark olive green and venetian red. there were about six pattern variations. the under surfaces were sky blue. Commencing with the production series D.650-640/17 and D.750-799/17 the venetian red was eliminated with the upper surfaces camouflaged in pale whitish greenand dark olive green. the under surfaces were sky blue. The fuselages on all Albatros built Alb. D.II and Alb. D.III were shellaced and varnished resulting in a straw yellow color. wheel covers were sky blue. All struts, cowlings, louvres, access doors, footstep and fvarious fitting were pale greenish grey. The camouflage was sprayed not brushed, edges of joining colors were soft." Even though he isnt part of the list I can add that to the website if list-members want it added. I dont want to set a precedent for non-members adding content to the website as the contributions can come from anywhere and the website is really for list-members. Sorry for the long email on cook-up admin matters. Peter wanted to thank who thought up the cook-up project, it was Ray Boorman! There also a lot of cook-up entries to still come in too, soooo ..... keep on modelling and send in those entries/pledges when you get them done :) cam AFC - http://members.xoom.com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:45:10 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: Cobby was ( theaerodrome.com) Message-ID: Cam, Thanks for the information on Cobby. The "High Adventure" book is the one I was thinking about. Its on sale somewhere not to far from where I live. I suspect I will go back this weekend to buy it. By the way in case anyone is ever passing through the Vancouver area, Aviation World has opened a store here. (Just like the one in Toronto) The Address is #105 6080 Russ Baker Way, Richmond BC V7B 1B4 Phone 604 718 7400 (800 668 1987) Fax 604 718 7401 How do I know this, well that cruel member of humanity Bob Pearson emailed me the info. Whereupon I just had to go look, like the innocent I am. Not only did I spend an inordinate amount of money but the darned place is only twenty minutes from where I live.... Sheesh..... if SWMBO has my gonads its all your fault Bob, I hope your happy ;0~ Ray (Rapidly hiding some erm receipts) ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2843 **********************