WWI Digest 2820 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: OT - but then then there are so many Amis on the list! by Shane Weier 2) RE: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... by "Gaston Graf" 3) RE: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... by "Matt Bittner" 4) Re: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... by smperry@mindspring.com 5) RE: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... by "Gaston Graf" 6) Re: Roden Fok D,VIII by "Leonard Endy" 7) Re: Tanks R ME by Russell W Niles 8) Re: OT - but then then there are so many Amis on the list! by REwing@aol.com 9) Re: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... by "DAVID BURKE" 10) Re: Re Short 184 by "DAVID BURKE" 11) TC Models info by "DAVID BURKE" 12) Re: Camel Questions by Zulis@aol.com 13) Re: ss 304 vs. 304V by Eli Geher 14) Slow Saturday by REwing@aol.com 15) Sopwith Triplane replica by Shane Weier 16) Degelow's Pfalz DIIIa by "Hans Trauner" 17) RE: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... by "Gaston Graf" 18) Re: Degelow's Pfalz DIIIa by "Bob Pearson" 19) Cockpits Volume 1 by "Michael Kendix" 20) DVa wing tip conflict by Mark Miller 21) Re: DVa wing tip conflict by smperry@mindspring.com 22) Re: Cockpits Volume 1 by Ernest Thomas 23) Re: Cockpits Volume 1 by "Dale Beamish" 24) Sopwith question by smperry@mindspring.com 25) Looking to trade by smperry@mindspring.com 26) Re: Cockpits Volume 1 by Ernest Thomas 27) Re: Cockpits Volume 1 by "Michael Kendix" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:51:50 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: OT - but then then there are so many Amis on the list! Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621CAA@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> > I got this yesterday and thought it was hilarious > I was going to send it to the list - but chickened out at the > last minute > > funniest thing I've seen in a long while Damn. I thought it was serious. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 01:02:03 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... Message-ID: huuuhhh..........and who gives the BJs in the Oval Room??? just wondering Gaston ;o) > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Ernest Thomas > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 12:51 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... > > > > > Bob Pearson wrote: > > > Sorry .. E already has his bid in to be named as King of America.. > > That's true. But DB's ideas were so brilliant, I'd name him > chancelor, or regent, > or whatever and he could help me rule. > However, on Mistress Lorna's suggestion, the national anthem will > be "Touch-a, > Touch-a, Touch-a, Touch Me", which is in line with my number one > campaigne promise > to "boink all the cute interns who are interning in The Velvet > Palace of Love, > formerly know as The Whitehouse." > I hope for your support on election day. > E. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:06:45 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... Message-ID: <200011190006.QAA04752@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 19:06:43 -0500 (EST), Gaston Graf wrote: > huuuhhh..........and who gives the BJs in the Oval Room??? C'mon people. Let's stop this crap. It's gone over the edge now. Matt Bittner Assistant WW1 Site Editor ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 19:18:15 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... Message-ID: <006e01c051be$36e9c520$9ef9aec7@default> > Name ME Dictator of the USA. Only if you swear loyalty to E. as King of the World After we relocate sp and one or two others to > a civilized part of the country, we will saw Florida loose and use it to ram > and sink Cuba. I'll stay and steer. Damn the torpedos and full speed ahead! sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 01:15:09 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... Message-ID: LOL - looks like you don't have the guts to meet my deadly harvester of souls up there in the air, Mister. Tell me the server, the map and the time and I'll be there to convert your canvas kite to ashes :o). that's no smack - it's a serious challenge c'mon DB - it's a game after all I'll even drop a wraith over your side of the front after your suffering will be over. Oberst Otto Graf von Burberg, Co J2B > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > DAVID BURKE > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 1:00 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gaston Graf" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 5:09 PM > Subject: RE: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... > > > > DB - regarding the ot stuff: I would like to challenge you for > a dogfight > > over the cyberfront in RBII. > > > > Are you ready to die, dude? > > > > Oberst Otto Graf von Burberg, Co J2B > > > > Yeah, I'm ready to die - of old age. Long after I have had the > satisfaction > of watching you jump from your burning airplane and hearing that wonderful > 'Yaaaaahhh!'. > > Germans talk WAYYY too much smack! > > > Capt. John Smith > > > AKA > > > DB > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 19:27:35 -0500 From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roden Fok D,VIII Message-ID: <6g7e1t464np0aod39kemvipdbp18n11l06@4ax.com> On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 09:13:57 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:33:17 -0500 (EST), smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > >> I don't use tube glue. It melts the plastic. CA works better for me. White >> glue that has set a few minutes exposed to the air might work well here. It >> can be strengthened with a tiny bit of CA after it sets up. > >Two advantages with tube glue, though. Melting the plastic actually >makes it a stronger bond, and the slow drying tube glue gives you time >to work with it. Just my opinion, though... > Liquid cement is perfect in this situation. Nothing better than a bond that "melts" the plastic together. CA does work but the joints tend to be weaker. Len ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 10:05:05 -0800 From: Russell W Niles To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Tanks R ME Message-ID: <20001118.164744.-587997.3.r_niles1@juno.com> Glen >From where and whom is your book on the FT17 available? Thanks Russ Russ Niles IPMS 4450 Too close for missiles....switching to guns. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 21:28:25 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OT - but then then there are so many Amis on the list! Message-ID: <93.3270387.274894c9@aol.com> --part1_93.3270387.274894c9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE > > To the citizens of the United States of America, > > Sandy, > Thought this was great!! I've sent it to 20-30 people already. Thanks > for sharing, even if it was a bit ot. -Rick- --part1_93.3270387.274894c9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE

To the citizens of the United States of America,

Sandy,
   Thought this was great!!  I've sent it to 20-30 people already.  Thanks
for sharing, even if it was a bit ot.


-Rick-  


--part1_93.3270387.274894c9_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 20:31:03 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... Message-ID: <001d01c051d0$d6f064e0$3590aec7@com> > LOL - looks like you don't have the guts to meet my deadly harvester of > souls up there in the air, Mister. > > Tell me the server, the map and the time and I'll be there to convert your > canvas kite to ashes :o). Will do - but I'm out for the evening. > > that's no smack - it's a serious challenge It will be my pleasure to meet the challenge and defeat you over ground of your own choosing! > > c'mon DB - it's a game after all Ahh 'tis true. Shame it couldn't have been done this way back in 1914. > > I'll even drop a wraith over your side of the front after your suffering > will be over. A wraith? Good God man, not only do you have delusions of shooting me down, but then you want to drop a Dungeons and Dragons character on me? I'll holler at you tomorrow and we can see whose carcass will rest in No-Man's Land! BTW, do you have rudder pedals? I don't, and I'm ailerons-only. Can anyone recommend good rudder pedals? >Otto Graf von Burberg, Co J2B Capt. John Smith 94th Aero Pursuit Sqdn., USAS AKA DB ...wait'll you get a load of this OT project that I have almost finished! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 20:35:42 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Re Short 184 Message-ID: <002901c051d1$6c537f40$3590aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Adam" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 6:16 PM Subject: Re Short 184 > >All Personal Snits aside, > Amen to that > > >That is a real beauty. Sandy, where as we get up each others' noses, I > can't knock results. Beauty. > Very graciously and kindly put Dave - thank you. > If you fancy trying the TC Models Short, let me know if I can help in any > way. > Sandy > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 20:42:13 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: TC Models info Message-ID: <003501c051d2$542d2280$3590aec7@com> Hi Gang, My research turned up the fact that TC Models is out of production. MisterKit is sold out of the 184 and the flying boat. However, some encouraging news: apparently TC will be back in 2001, and the full range is slated for re-release, along with three new unspecified models. So there's something to look forward to in the New Year! DB P.S., I got this info straight from Tony Collins - I assume Mr. TC himself! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 23:25:00 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Camel Questions Message-ID: In a message dated 00-11-15 16:37:24 EST, you write: << Bob says: > No French Units used Camels, one Belgian, two American and > lots of British units did. Ahem! You forgetting someone? Shane >> yes he is.... the Latvians used a handful which the british gave them. :-) DZ oh....! you mean the aussies..... lol ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 23:06:06 -0600 From: Eli Geher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ss 304 vs. 304V Message-ID: <3A175FBE.DCEFD85F@hiwaay.net> Shane Weier wrote: > > Funny, I recall from my 1st year electrical engineering lectures that > Selenium was used to dope Silicon in order to *make* semiconductors. > > Lucky my engineering is now all at "join the system to the system" level and > not atomic level. > > Shane I haven't heard of Selenium being used in semiconductors in the last few decades. The principle dopants used these days are arsenic or phosphorus depending on whether you're going for positive or negative bias. Meaningless jargon to the non specialist and I don't remember which is actually which. The whole point of using specially compounded materials is to keep from poisoning subsequent layers. Making microcircuits is an unbelievably touchy process and is sometimes accomplished with the assistance of human sacrifice and other arcane rituals. Of course, World War 1 transistors were much easier to make :-) Eli ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 00:31:29 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Slow Saturday Message-ID: <24.d59c501.2748bfb1@aol.com> --part1_24.d59c501.2748bfb1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Went to a show today in Vallejo, CA. (pronounced "vah LAY ho", as in the General). There wasn't a drop of OT there at all!! Came home, though, with a 1/28th Fokker D. VII and only paid $3.00 for it. Worth the money! The real reason for this post is that I met Ken Lawrence of Pacific Coast Models, Inc. He is going to handle all of the Mister Kit paints and is expecting a shipment in of the German, A-H, and RFC colors any day now. The French colors aren't ready yet (sorry, Matt). He seems like a very nice guy and was definitely a pleasure to talk to. Below is all the information that is on his business card if anyone is interested. As usual, I don't have any stake in this business, just looking forward to being a satisfied customer. Pacific Coast Models, Inc. 613 Martin Ave., Bldg. 106 Rohnert Park, CA, USA 94928-2000 Fax (707) 538-8183 e-mail: info@pacmodels.com www.pacmodels.com Tel: (707) 538-4850 -Rick- --part1_24.d59c501.2748bfb1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all,
    Went to a show today in Vallejo, CA. (pronounced "vah LAY ho", as in the
General).  There wasn't a drop of OT there at all!!  Came home, though, with
a 1/28th Fokker D. VII and only paid $3.00 for it.  Worth the money!
    The real reason for this post is that I met Ken Lawrence of Pacific
Coast Models, Inc.  He is going to handle all of the Mister Kit paints and is
expecting a shipment in of the German, A-H, and RFC colors any day now.  The
French colors aren't ready yet (sorry, Matt).  He seems like a very nice guy
and was definitely a pleasure to talk to.  Below is all the information that
is on his business card if anyone is interested.  As usual, I don't have any
stake in this business, just looking forward to being a satisfied customer.

Pacific Coast Models, Inc.
613 Martin Ave., Bldg. 106
Rohnert Park, CA, USA
94928-2000
Fax (707) 538-8183
e-mail: info@pacmodels.com
www.pacmodels.com
Tel: (707) 538-4850

-Rick-

 --part1_24.d59c501.2748bfb1_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:58:25 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Sopwith Triplane replica Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621CAF@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Hi all, for those of you who appreciate a nice 1:1 model, try these photos on Hyperscale of a Canadian replica. No prizes for guessing whose aircraft they modelled http://www.hyperscale.com/reference/sopwithtriplanegmcd_1.htm Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:11:56 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: "Mailing List WWI" Subject: Degelow's Pfalz DIIIa Message-ID: <002b01c05211$25ed3c40$0ea272d4@custom-pc> Hey, everybody out there! I have to write a review for a german aircraft magazine. The object is Eduard's 1/48 Pfalz DIIIa EARLY Version. The early Version of the Pfalz still has the DIII lower wing in triangular shape. The kit includes decals for Berthold ( Jasta 18 livery) and Degelow (silver stag on black fuselage). All I could find are some pictures in the DIIIa datafile which shows Berthold's DIIIa on page 32, but it is hard to judge the shape of the lower wing. In my opinion it shows the later version. On page 31 there is the only pic I could find of a definitve early DIIIa, also Jasta 18 blue/red, with white striping on the fuselage. So here my questions: Can anybody confirm Degelow's black machine with silver (white!?) stag beeing an early DIIIa? The same with Berthodl, but I really would prefer Degelow's machine. I have tried already in Theaerodrome forum, but noboy could confirm theearly DIIIa. Maybe somebody out there own's Degelow's memoirs and could sent me scan of the plane, if possible? Thanks in advance! Hals und Beinbruch, Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:38:34 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Endgame options; was Re: OT - but then.... Message-ID: Hi DB, > > > LOL - looks like you don't have the guts to meet my deadly harvester of > > souls up there in the air, Mister. > > > > Tell me the server, the map and the time and I'll be there to > convert your > > canvas kite to ashes :o). > > Will do - but I'm out for the evening. Any day will be fine. Let's choose one of the more quiet WOAC servers. If you have troubles getting connected please feel free to contact me. You can find me on ICQ under 22509004. > > > > that's no smack - it's a serious challenge > > It will be my pleasure to meet the challenge and defeat you over ground of > your own choosing! I suggest the "Aerial Conflict" server at the WOAC because rarely somebody flies there. > > > > c'mon DB - it's a game after all > > Ahh 'tis true. Shame it couldn't have been done this way back in 1914. I agree - I wish all the wars could be fought in cyberspace using pixel weapons and pixel blood. That hurts nobody. > > > > I'll even drop a wraith over your side of the front after your suffering > > will be over. > > A wraith? Good God man, not only do you have delusions of > shooting me down, > but then you want to drop a Dungeons and Dragons character on me? Ouch - sorry for the misspelling my friend. I meant at WREATH indeed :o). My old brain is playing tricks on me. > > I'll holler at you tomorrow and we can see whose carcass will rest in > No-Man's Land! BTW, do you have rudder pedals? I don't, and I'm > ailerons-only. Can anyone recommend good rudder pedals? To have equal chances I think we should meet as soon as you have either pedals or a Sidewinder stick because the old crates aren't flyable without rudder. Flying a Dr.1 without rudder is like driving a car wihout a steering wheel. I am using an MS Sidewinder Force Feedback stick which has the rudder function build in the handle. To apply rudder I twist the handle. But I soon want to get me pedals. Some of the best you can find are the CH pedals. Also I want to get me a CH yoke for the civil aircraft of the FLY! sim. Don't forget to grease the boots, clean the goggles and fasten your seatbelts before taking off or you may end up like Oswald Boelcke ;o) SALUTE! <-(used in online games to salute the other honorable pilots, friend or foe) Otto Graf von Burberg, Co J2B PS: What about Dr2 vrs Sopwith Tripe or E.III vrs Bullet? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 02:37:36 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Degelow's Pfalz DIIIa Message-ID: <200011191149.DAA20176@mail.rapidnet.net> Hi Hans, Well it's your own fault for going to the aerodrome first ... sheesh. .. There is a shot of Degelow's overturned D.IIIa in his autobiography, and it looks to have the straight wingtip rather than the curved one. I'll send you a scan of it. . And let that be a lesson to come here before going to that other place. regards, Bob ---------- >From: "Hans Trauner" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Degelow's Pfalz DIIIa >Date: Sun, Nov 19, 2000, 2:17 am > > Hey, everybody out there! > I have to write a review for a german aircraft magazine. The object is > Eduard's 1/48 Pfalz DIIIa EARLY Version. The early Version of the Pfalz > still has the DIII lower wing in triangular shape. > The kit includes decals for Berthold ( Jasta 18 livery) and Degelow (silver > stag on black fuselage). All I could find are some pictures in the DIIIa > datafile which shows Berthold's DIIIa on page 32, but it is hard to judge > the shape of the lower wing. In my opinion it shows the later version. On > page 31 there is the only pic I could find of a definitve early DIIIa, also > Jasta 18 blue/red, with white striping on the fuselage. > > So here my questions: > > Can anybody confirm Degelow's black machine with silver (white!?) stag > beeing an early DIIIa? > The same with Berthodl, but I really would prefer Degelow's machine. > > I have tried already in Theaerodrome forum, but noboy could confirm theearly > DIIIa. > > Maybe somebody out there own's Degelow's memoirs and could sent me scan of > the plane, if possible? > > Thanks in advance! > > Hals und Beinbruch, > Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:01:17 GMT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Cockpits Volume 1 Message-ID: A German publication was issued entitled "Cockpits" with successive volumes covering later periods. Volume or Number 1 covered the WWI period, and I believe it is confined to German aeroplanes. Can anyone give me the full title of this publication so I can search for its being sold on the web. Thanks, Michael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: 19 Nov 2000 06:27:41 -0800 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: DVa wing tip conflict Message-ID: <20001119142741.14796.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> I've been working on th Virtual DVa upper wing tip - and noticed that there is a conflict between Eduard's 1/48 scale kit and the Mikesh drawings. The drawings seem to show the wing flattening out at the tip - such that if viewed from the end it would appear to have a flat bottom (no undercamber - if that's a word) This can be seen on the page which show plan views of the wing ribs - rib 14l and 13r clearly are flat on the bottom - and 13l/12r seem to be somewhat flatter - starting the transition The Eduard kit continues the curve through the whole wing such that it is seen when viewed from the edge. Difficult to see in photos though - maybe a nit - but it drove me crazy for an hour or so In any case I'm showing it flat - much simpler to define that way - a nasty, complicated piece of buisness in any case BTW - please do not consider this a criticism of Eduard - God bless em anyone who was modeling in 1/48 scale through the long dark ages before Eduard came along should know better. oddly enough the horrible Glencoe kit seems to show this feature correctly (?) although I suspect they did so by mistake :-) Mark Miller _______________________________________________________________________ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:44:45 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: DVa wing tip conflict Message-ID: <000901c05237$43350140$9ff0aec7@default> > The drawings seem to show the wing flattening out at the tip - such that if viewed from the end it would appear to have a flat bottom (no undercamber - if that's a word) This can be seen on the page which show plan views of the wing ribs - rib 14l and 13r clearly are flat on the bottom - and 13l/12r seem to be somewhat flatter Mark: Undercamber is the correct word. I believe that the Albatros upper wing had a slight washout built in at the tips to increase stability through a stall causing the stall to break from the roots outward to the tips. (A stall breaking at the tip of a wing during a turn can precipitate a nasty spin). I'm just guessing here but the flattening of the underside of the airfoil might have been how they achieved this effect. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 08:45:47 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cockpits Volume 1 Message-ID: <3A17E79A.16BD5E41@bellsouth.net> Michael Kendix wrote: > Can anyone give me the full > title of this publication so I can search for its being sold on the web. Mike, The complete title is 'Cockpit Profile' vol 1, published by Flugzeug Publikations GmbH Thomas-Mann-StraBe 3 89257 Illertissen Tel 0 73 03/96 42 20 Fax 0 73 03/96 42 41 Don't see an isbn anywhere on it. Sorry. Hth. E. Btw,I have it in hand, if you have any questions about the content. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 07:55:43 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: Cockpits Volume 1 Message-ID: <00c501c05238$e939cf20$d331b8a1@darcy> E. > Btw,I have it in hand, if you have any questions about the content. Anything on the rear stations in the two seaters? Dale ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 10:12:08 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Sopwith question Message-ID: <001a01c0523b$16816220$9ff0aec7@default> Relating to Sopwith aircraft in particular, but also to other "character rich" PC-10 schemes in general: Many color & marking guides show the metal cowls and front sheet metal work to be painted a shade of gray and the fabric covered rear doped PC-10 (or 12). My question is: Are there any instances where some of the front most portions of the fabric were also painted gray, or is it safe to assume that gray areas on these schenes were sheetmetal and PC-10 areas were fabric? Also were the sheetmetal panels primered or painted on the inside or just left natural Aluminum? TIA sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 10:17:15 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Looking to trade Message-ID: <002001c0523b$cd255d60$9ff0aec7@default> I'm looking to trade for a Toko Snipe. Actually I need two. If you have one or two extra and are interested in trading for something else, please give me a holler Off List. sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:16:38 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cockpits Volume 1 Message-ID: <3A17EED5.5AE99350@bellsouth.net> Dale Beamish wrote: > Anything on the rear stations in the two seaters? Almost nothing. On page 8, there's a photo that looks like it may show a bit of the rear office in an Aviatic C.1. Here' the caption in German(can someone translate?) "Pilotensitz der Aviatic C.1(Baunummer 227/16; Werknummer 832) im Musee Royal de l`Armee in Brussel. Man beachte den Kraftstofftank rechts neben dem vorderen Beobachtersitz mit dem thermometerartigen Vorratsanzeiger". Then on page 15, there's a shot of the nose gunner's office on a Gotha G.1 And that's about it. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 15:16:56 GMT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cockpits Volume 1 Message-ID: Ernest: I'm making Roseplane's SSW DDr.I for Internet Modeler. There's not much on it for refs and no cockpit stuff. Does the book contain and later SSW types such as the D.III or D.IV? I really need to buy that book but when the local fellow ahd one, I was uninterested, being totally fixated on RFC stuff at that particular minute. Now I'll have to get by mail order. Thanks, Michael >From: Ernest Thomas >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Cockpits Volume 1 >Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:49:29 -0500 (EST) > >Michael Kendix wrote: > > > Can anyone give me the full > > title of this publication so I can search for its being sold on the web. > >Mike, >The complete title is 'Cockpit Profile' vol 1, >published by Flugzeug Publikations GmbH >Thomas-Mann-StraBe 3 >89257 Illertissen >Tel 0 73 03/96 42 20 >Fax 0 73 03/96 42 41 > >Don't see an isbn anywhere on it. Sorry. >Hth. >E. >Btw,I have it in hand, if you have any questions about the content. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2820 **********************