WWI Digest 2810 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Gallipoli - was:RE: film alert et cetera by Todd Hayes 2) RE: Voss cowling? -Wolff by "Gaston Graf" 3) RE: Underneath the wings by Shane Weier 4) RE: Re - Holtzem DIII by Shane Weier 5) Loose books, was RE: Underneath the wings by "Matt Bittner" 6) Wanted Ford T/C Armored Cars by Allan Wright 7) Loose books, was RE: Underneath the wings by "Lance Krieg" 8) Re: Loose books, was RE: Underneath the wings by "Matt Bittner" 9) RE: 45 Degree Camou? was (Re: Bolle's Early Fokker DVII) by "cameron rile" 10) RE: Camel Questions by Shane Weier 11) RE: Mixing Sibergrau by Shane Weier 12) RE: Loose books, was RE: Underneath the wings by Shane Weier 13) RE: Camel Questions by "Matt Bittner" 14) RE: Mixing Sibergrau by "Matt Bittner" 15) RE: 45 Degree Camou? was (Re: Bolle's Early Fokker DVII) by Shane Weier 16) Re: Camel Questions by "Bob Pearson" 17) RE: Camel Questions by Shane Weier 18) RE: Mixing Sibergrau by Shane Weier 19) RE: Bolle's Early Fokker DVII by "Lance Krieg" 20) Late Nieuports, was RE: Mixing Sibergrau by "Matt Bittner" 21) RE: Bolle's Early Fokker DVII by "Matt Bittner" 22) RE: Nieuport Conversions by "Lance Krieg" 23) RE: Late Nieuports, was RE: Mixing Sibergrau by Shane Weier 24) Re: Bolle's Early Fokker DVII by "Bob Pearson" 25) Re: Nieuport Conversions by "Bob Pearson" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:45:46 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Gallipoli - was:RE: film alert et cetera Message-ID: <20001115204546.97426.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> A Turkish Friend of mine told me once that her great grand father was killed in the fighting on the Gallipoli peninsula. TH --- Nigel Rayner wrote: > Shane wrote (about the attack on the Nek): > >The assault was made by the 8th and 10th Light > Horse Regiments after a > preliminary bombardment which mysteriously >stopped > 7 minutes early. > > According to Robert Rhodes James in his excellent > book on Gallipoli, it was > later discovered this was because the > synchronization of watches had been > overlooked. This makes the loss of life even more > galling. > > Cheers, > > Nigel > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:01:01 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Voss cowling? -Wolff Message-ID: Thanks, Ray! I too noticed that German names or designations are to often misspelled in English books. But it is always a pleasure to me to help people if I can so if there is something somebody wants to know about German or French terms, names or whatever please do not hesitate to contact me. with kind regards Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Ray Boorman > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:30 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Voss cowling? -Wolff > > > Thanks Gaston, > I had two ways to spell his name. Both would have been > wrong, so I spelt it > phonetically. Amazing his name is often mis-spelt in books and references > too. btw your site is pretty cool. > > Rega5rds Ray Boorman > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Gaston Graf > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 5:43 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Voss cowling? > > > Ray, > > the name of the pilot was WOLFF, not Wulf - altough the translation of the > name was correct :o). > > His tripes cowl was painted OLIVE, not red. > > You can read a report about hist death at my website if you like. > Please go > to the ACES section at http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > sincerely > > Gaston > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > > Ray Boorman > > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:23 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: RE: Voss cowling? > > > > > > Aghhhhh, 109 Spitfire 109 Spitfire 109 sheesh. Ok if we have to > open this > > can of worms why not seriously add the question of; what colour was the > > cowling of the other F1 aircraft that Wulf died flying. Was it > painted red > > or olive?? > > > > Ray > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > > Brian Nicklas > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:52 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Re: Voss cowling? > > > > > > > > Hey! I've got an open wound! Anyone got some salt ??!! > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:08:19 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Underneath the wings Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621C78@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> RK says > but > nothing like my NASM Stropp book...er...collection of loose leaves. > Mine lives in a ziplock bag for the same reason. I've been contemplating taking it to a book binder and giving it the five star treatment - but if it looks too good when done the others will be whinging and whining for a makeover too, and I already have enough voices inside my head........ Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:12:24 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Re - Holtzem DIII Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621C79@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Sandy says: > > I personally (and without seriously studying it) suggest > > that the aircraft > > has silbergrau upper wings and loz lower wings, possibly > > replacements > > I didn't read the earlier bits but agree with Shane - same as > the model that > RR made in a recent Windsock. I don't have this issue yet, but am probably two issues behind current UK release. So - which issue is it in? Should I expect it in my next parcel (due this week or next), or the one following in January? Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:11:29 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Loose books, was RE: Underneath the wings Message-ID: <200011152114.NAA24231@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:13:24 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier wrote: > Mine lives in a ziplock bag for the same reason. I've been contemplating > taking it to a book binder and giving it the five star treatment - but if it > looks too good when done the others will be whinging and whining for a > makeover too, and I already have enough voices inside my head........ I have made loose my copy of C&C V2N1, the Lafayette Escadrille one. In studying photos and the like, I wanted to scan them and manipulate them, and find it's easiest if you're dealing with a single sheet of paper versus a book/magazine. If I were you, Shane, I would just keep it in the zip lock. That way if you ever need to do something like I have done then it's already out of its binding. In addition, having a single sheet on the workbench takes up less space then the whole book. Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:20:29 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Wanted Ford T/C Armored Cars Message-ID: <200011152120.QAA18739@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Anyone that has the hit-kit dual kit with the Ford T/C Armored car in it that is not planning on building it, I have a friend that would like several for a wargaming project. He's willing to pay fair price plus shipping. Contact me via direct e-mail. Thanks, Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:25:51 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Loose books, was RE: Underneath the wings Message-ID: Matt makes a good point about single sheet being easier to manipulate, especially when you need to refer to them. For those books you are reluctant to cut apart, I have found a little stand - made for cook-books - that holds a book open to a particular page for easier reference. That NASM Stropp book must be the worst job in the history of bookbinding, since mine's in pieces, too, and I haven't even made an Albatros since I got it. I better find a zip-lock bag! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:25:31 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Loose books, was RE: Underneath the wings Message-ID: <200011152128.NAA14529@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:30:08 -0500 (EST), Lance Krieg wrote: > That NASM Stropp book must be the worst job in the history of bookbinding, since mine's in pieces, too, and I haven't even made an Albatros since I got it. I better find a zip-lock bag! Believe it or not, the old C&C(US) issues are even worse IRT binding. It took opening the binding all the way twice for pages to start falling out. Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:39:53 -0600 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: 45 Degree Camou? was (Re: Bolle's Early Fokker DVII) Message-ID: <65BA51C2E0BB4D115A650005B80A9E19@cameron.prontomail.com> Lance, >Whoa! Except for the prototypes, all the D.VIIs had the >wings covered in lozenge fabric, including those early >Schwerin products with the streaky fuselages. And all the >known Fokker D.VII lozenge was applied chordwise. Arghhhh! The reason I chose it was so I could have a go at the streaky green camou. The "In Action" book has a profile of it with the green camou'ed wings. >Whether Bolle's was 4 or 5 color would depend on the time it >was produced... I can check tonight and let you know tomorrow. Yes thanks, if you wouldnt mind Lance. So what do you think that aircraft's complete scheme is? Did the blue wrap around to the radiator face as the "In Action" profile has as well? cam AFC - http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:28:30 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Camel Questions Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621C7B@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Bob says: > No French Units used Camels, one Belgian, two American and > lots of British units did. Ahem! You forgetting someone? Shane ;-) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:23:37 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Mixing Sibergrau Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621C7A@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt says; > With all this talk about Silbergrau I was thinking - wouldn't a Flat > Aluminum out of the bottle work? Once you add a dull coat it should > tone down the "metallic", right? I use Polly Scale for the French > Aluminum dope - wouldn't this work for the German? > FWIW the French dope was pigmented with aluminium powder only. Silbergrau was aluminium powder, lamp black and (dammit, I forget which) white pigment. Personally, I'd be trying for a different appearance. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:37:34 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Loose books, was RE: Underneath the wings Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621C7D@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt says: > > If I were you, Shane, I would just keep it in the zip lock. That way > if you ever need to do something like I have done then it's > already out > of its binding. In addition, having a single sheet on the workbench > takes up less space then the whole book. Good God. If I left a single sheet on my desk it'd either get ruined or lost forever. NO way. I know it's easier to copy from a sheet which can be put flat on the glass, but I'd rather have the book in good condition than the copy - but that's my old fashioned pre-electronic attitude to books as objects of art and value beyond the mere contents Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:35:58 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Camel Questions Message-ID: <200011152139.NAA12253@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:40:00 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier wrote: > > No French Units used Camels, one Belgian, two American and > > lots of British units did. > > Ahem! > > You forgetting someone? Good point, Shane! Don't forget a couple of Germans flew them as well. :-) Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:37:01 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Mixing Sibergrau Message-ID: <200011152140.NAA16174@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:40:33 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier wrote: > FWIW the French dope was pigmented with aluminium powder only. Silbergrau > was aluminium powder, lamp black and (dammit, I forget which) white pigment. > > Personally, I'd be trying for a different appearance. Thanks. That and the earlier messages made up my mind I won't be using Polly Scale Flat Aluminum for Pfalz'. Which is good, because I need it all for the French birds. :-) Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:40:19 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: 45 Degree Camou? was (Re: Bolle's Early Fokker DVII) Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621C7E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Cam says: > >Whoa! Except for the prototypes, all the D.VIIs had the > >wings covered in lozenge fabric, including those early > >Schwerin products with the streaky fuselages. And all the > >known Fokker D.VII lozenge was applied chordwise. > > Arghhhh! The reason I chose it was so I could have a go at the > streaky green camou. The "In Action" book has a profile of it with > the green camou'ed wings. RULE #1 Never believe a profile painting in a Sqn Sig "In Action" unless it coincdes with at least one good source (they usually don't) In particular, ignore the Dr.I volume. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:43:29 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Camel Questions Message-ID: <200011152158.NAA28766@mail.rapidnet.net> uhhmmmmm you're right ..Latvia had one, so did Poland ---------- >From: Shane Weier >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: RE: Camel Questions >Date: Wed, Nov 15, 2000, 1:40 pm > > Bob says: > >> No French Units used Camels, one Belgian, two American and >> lots of British units did. > > Ahem! > > You forgetting someone? > > Shane > > ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:44:46 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Camel Questions Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621C7F@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt says: > > > No French Units used Camels, one Belgian, two American and > > > lots of British units did. > > > > Ahem! > > > > You forgetting someone? > > Good point, Shane! Don't forget a couple of Germans flew > them as well. > I was thinking or Russians :-p Shane (and someone else ;-) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:48:37 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Mixing Sibergrau Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621C80@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt says: > Thanks. That and the earlier messages made up my mind I > won't be using Polly Scale Flat Aluminum for Pfalz'. > > Which is good, because I need it all for the French birds. :-) This makes you the correct person to ask: If I was to buy the new HiTech Nieuport - is there a less obvious alternative marking than the tedious thousandth variation on Nungessor contained in the kit? Something that either requires no difficult unit markings or is available off someones commercial decal sheet? I'm only mildly interested of course. It *is* after all only French ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:52:43 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: Bolle's Early Fokker DVII Message-ID: Cam - As you read further, you will see that someone has provided a good description of Bolle's various Fokkers, none of which would have any streaking visible after the fuselage overpaint. Further, I can recall no blue on his planes; the radiator area was white, per the Jasta 2 practice... but he had white stripes on the wings, if that makes matters any more appealing. If you want streaky, go with an early machine in JG 1; Gabriel's, maybe? Sorry... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:50:44 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Late Nieuports, was RE: Mixing Sibergrau Message-ID: <200011152154.NAA05696@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:52:51 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier wrote: > If I was to buy the new HiTech Nieuport - is there a less obvious > alternative marking than the tedious thousandth variation on Nungessor > contained in the kit? Something that either requires no difficult unit > markings or is available off someones commercial decal sheet? Unfortunately there are *no* aftermarket decals for the Nie.17bis through Nie.27. However, if someone on the list has the Tom's conversion, it came with decals that Bob designed. You could ask for that through the list. Or maybe plead with one of the member's who own an ALPS, then you can use whatever scheme *you* wanted, instead of being dictated to. Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:53:03 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Bolle's Early Fokker DVII Message-ID: <200011152156.NAA13893@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:57:38 -0500 (EST), Lance Krieg wrote: > If you want streaky, go with an early machine in JG 1; Gabriel's, maybe? You could go with that one, or pick up one of the Anthology issues. A bunch of early streaky machines in there (but again, with lozenge wings...). Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:59:46 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: Nieuport Conversions Message-ID: Shane asks Matt about: "... HiTech Nieuport - is there a less obvious alternative marking than the tedious thousandth variation on Nungessor contained in the kit?" Hell, Matt's not got a decent opinion on 1/48 models! But if you go with the Tom's Modelworks version, you get the round fuselage and tail alternatives, along with a couple of marking choices, including N.62 (2) with a nifty rooster, as provided by a certain Canuck who can't remember who else may have flown Camels... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:00:42 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Late Nieuports, was RE: Mixing Sibergrau Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621C82@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt says: > Unfortunately there are *no* aftermarket decals for the Nie.17bis > through Nie.27. Rats. I was hoping there'd be one on some mixed sheet (like BR's French sheet) > However, if someone on the list has the Tom's > conversion, it came with decals that Bob designed. You could ask for > that through the list I tried to buy this through Barry, but it was out of stock and Tom H was so slow getting new ones to him that we more or less gave up. > Or maybe plead with one of the member's who own > an ALPS, then you can use whatever scheme *you* wanted, instead of > being dictated to. First I have to find a late model Nie I care enough about to be bothered with the trouble :-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:02:36 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bolle's Early Fokker DVII Message-ID: <200011152217.OAA29467@mail.rapidnet.net> I have the top and side view of Freidrich's Jasta 10 D.VII profiled .. it has streaked fuselage, yellow nose, lozenge wings with eisernes kreuz but with reworked fuselage and tail crosses .. just the thing for a judge to disqualify unless you bring along the photo of the real thing. Bob ---------- >From: "Matt Bittner" > On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:57:38 -0500 (EST), Lance Krieg wrote: > >> If you want streaky, go with an early machine in JG 1; Gabriel's, maybe? > > You could go with that one, or pick up one of the Anthology issues. A > bunch of early streaky machines in there (but again, with lozenge > wings...). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:05:17 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Nieuport Conversions Message-ID: <200011152220.OAA29535@mail.rapidnet.net> > But if you go with the Tom's Modelworks version, you get the round fuselage > and tail alternatives, along with a couple of marking choices, including > N.62 (2) with a nifty rooster, as provided by a certain Canuck who can't > remember who else may have flown Camels... > > Lance Uh. . Waldo Pepper? ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2810 **********************