WWI Digest 2808 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: MisterKit Acrylic WWI Colors Available Soon In The US by "dfernet0" 2) Re: MisterKit Acrylic WWI Colors Available Soon In The US by "Alberto Casirati" 3) RE: MisterKit Acrylic WWI Colors Available Soon In The US by Crawford Neil 4) re - WWI purple by "Sandy Adam" 5) Re - Holtzem DIII by "Sandy Adam" 6) Re: MisterKit Acrylic WWI Colors Available Soon In The US by "Alberto Casirati" 7) DH 6 question by "dfernet0" 8) Re: WWI Colors and RLM colors by Jan Vihonen 9) Re: DH 6 question by "Matt Bittner" 10) Camel Questions by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 11) RE: DH 6 question by "dfernet0" 12) RE: Camel Questions by Crawford Neil 13) RE: DH 6 question by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 14) Diego's new caricature by "Alberto Casirati" 15) RE: Diego's new caricature by Crawford Neil 16) RE: Diego's new caricature by "Matt Bittner" 17) Re: VCR alert - was Re: film alert et cetera by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 18) What is "cook-up"? What is "OAW"? by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 19) RE: What is "cook-up"? What is "OAW"? by "dfernet0" 20) RE: What is "cook-up"? What is "OAW"? by Crawford Neil 21) RE: What is "cook-up"? What is "OAW"? by "Matt Bittner" 22) RE: Voss cowling? by "Gaston Graf" 23) Re: Cook-up by "Mark Shannon" 24) Re: Mixing Sibergrau by "Michael Kendix" 25) Re: WWI Colors and RLM colors by Lee Mensinger 26) Re: DH 6 question by "Dale Sebring" 27) Bunch of site changes by "Matt Bittner" 28) Same place, same time - was: 2cents on 2 Pfalz kits by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 29) LWF by "Brian Nicklas" 30) RE: LWF by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 31) Re: DH 6 question by "Michael Kendix" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 06:48:20 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: MisterKit Acrylic WWI Colors Available Soon In The US Message-ID: <008901c04ee9$303378c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> ---- Original Message ----- From: Shane Weier > > I got the same reply, should be a good source for all of us. > > All? > > ;-) All???????? ;-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:08:44 +0100 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: Re: MisterKit Acrylic WWI Colors Available Soon In The US Message-ID: <00a601c04eec$09caade0$320106c0@acasirat> Anyway, ordering from Mk directly is a good alternative, as they usually ship by the following day, and in stout parcels, by registered air mail. Just in case someone did not know... Alberto Casirati P.S.: for the benefit of newcomers, may I repeat here that I am not involved in MK business matters by any means... ----- Original Message ----- From: "dfernet0" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 10:54 AM Subject: RE: MisterKit Acrylic WWI Colors Available Soon In The US > ---- Original Message ----- > From: Shane Weier > > > I got the same reply, should be a good source for all of us. > > > > All? > > > > ;-) > > All???????? > > ;-) > D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:27:23 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: MisterKit Acrylic WWI Colors Available Soon In The US Message-ID: How about minimum orders, do they have something like the 30£ limit that Hannants have, that is so irritating? /Neil -----Original Message----- From: Alberto Casirati [mailto:ammi-alme@unicalce.it] Sent: den 15 november 2000 11:03 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: MisterKit Acrylic WWI Colors Available Soon In The US Anyway, ordering from Mk directly is a good alternative, as they usually ship by the following day, and in stout parcels, by registered air mail. Just in case someone did not know... Alberto Casirati P.S.: for the benefit of newcomers, may I repeat here that I am not involved in MK business matters by any means... ----- Original Message ----- From: "dfernet0" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 10:54 AM Subject: RE: MisterKit Acrylic WWI Colors Available Soon In The US > ---- Original Message ----- > From: Shane Weier > > > I got the same reply, should be a good source for all of us. > > > > All? > > > > ;-) > > All???????? > > ;-) > D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:27:19 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: re - WWI purple Message-ID: <012f01c04ef8$0c03b780$2ce8b094@sandyada> > but it will perhaps ve easiest to associate the WWI color with spectral violet, that is, on the blue side. If that works for you, fine. Me, I'll decide what shade of lilac, mauve or purple seems appropriate for the particular model I'm making. I'don't think there was much in the way of colour control in WWI and batches of paint would likely be mixed up in the factory/field as required. Many G reports mention the colour Venetian Red on pre-lozenge aircraft and this may well indicate either Red-Brown or Purple as far as I am concerned. Perhaps the old Humbrol "Authentic" colour WWI Purple was meant to represent this. I'm about to do a series of Albatrosse D- and C-types (now that the cookup is over!) and will do some in two-colour, some in three-colour, some Red-Brown, some Lilac and some Purple as I feel like it! I agree that an OAW Fokker and other later war aircraft seem more appropriate in lilac, but I'm happy with a wide tonal range for earlier craft. Your mileage may vary. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:34:03 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Re - Holtzem DIII Message-ID: <013001c04ef8$0cfdf600$2ce8b094@sandyada> > I personally (and without seriously studying it) suggest that the aircraft > has silbergrau upper wings and loz lower wings, possibly replacements I didn't read the earlier bits but agree with Shane - same as the model that RR made in a recent Windsock. (Interesting black line he put along lower wing LE's.) I've got a DIIIa ready for colours now and would dearly love to do this machine with a be-lozenged top wing too but I can't just convince myself as yet! Important point though - remember to give Holtzem's 'plane stub exhausts - short straight tubes, not the usual Pfalz saxophone. There is a rare third photo of H standing in front of wings in the WS article which shows this clearly. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:52:21 +0100 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: Re: MisterKit Acrylic WWI Colors Available Soon In The US Message-ID: <015901c04efa$83312340$320106c0@acasirat> Dear Neil, > How about minimum orders, do they have something like the 30£ limit > that Hannants have, that is so irritating? I don't think so, as their site (http://www.misterkit.com/index.htm) do not mention such a condition. Ciao, Alberto -----Original Message----- From: Alberto Casirati [mailto:ammi-alme@unicalce.it] Sent: den 15 november 2000 11:03 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: MisterKit Acrylic WWI Colors Available Soon In The US Anyway, ordering from Mk directly is a good alternative, as they usually ship by the following day, and in stout parcels, by registered air mail. Just in case someone did not know... Alberto Casirati P.S.: for the benefit of newcomers, may I repeat here that I am not involved in MK business matters by any means... ----- Original Message ----- From: "dfernet0" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 10:54 AM Subject: RE: MisterKit Acrylic WWI Colors Available Soon In The US > ---- Original Message ----- > From: Shane Weier > > > I got the same reply, should be a good source for all of us. > > > > All? > > > > ;-) > > All???????? > > ;-) > D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:48:15 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: DH 6 question Message-ID: <020b01c04ef9$f0bb3dc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Seems like I'm the winner of an auction for a Phoenix 1/72 Dehavilland D.H.6. Well, I bid on this on Ebay idly and seems like no one else wanted it! I can't find any picture of this plane in my library nor in the net (yet) anyone knows of such a plane on the web? Besides, does anyone have this kit? How good it is? It was worth the 5 bucks I spent into it? thanks in advance D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:06:47 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI Colors and RLM colors Message-ID: <3A127C57.D1286FD3@helsinki.fi> After a good while I'm sort of returning to my old love, modelling of aircraft with (generally) more than one plane and I've been lurking here now for a while. I've found discussions very informative and captivating. Referring to the discussion of WWI colours and their connection to RLM colours I would like to point out that most of the RLM colours, as well as most of the German tank colours of that era were picked up from the DIN (Deutche Industrie Norm) Standards. Well, I'm not sure whether DIN Standards existed in the time of WWI but clearly, as Lee points out there must be a manufacturer first before we can get a paint. While not being able to get DF monographs of Fok. Dr. I at my disposal I would appreciate it if some one could give me the colour equivalents (Methuen) given there for the general paintwork of that plane. Jani Lee Mensinger wrote: > > Do not need to have an RLM in place. All that was needed is paint and a company to manufacture stuff that looked, worked and lasted the same over a long time > period. Government standards are OK but in the beginning it will always be an available manufacturer first. > > The RLM Standard is used as a relative comparison point no matter when it came into being. We do have it now so it can be referenced just the same as the F. S. 595 > we use in this country. It gives commonality to the eyes for comparison purposes. > > That is one way to tell the difference between ants and elephants. Just look at them. > > Lee M. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 05:58:42 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: DH 6 question Message-ID: <200011151158.DAA24155@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 06:52:44 -0500 (EST), dfernet0 wrote: > Seems like I'm the winner of an auction for a Phoenix 1/72 Dehavilland > D.H.6. Well, I bid on this on Ebay idly and seems like no one else wanted > it! > I can't find any picture of this plane in my library nor in the net (yet) > anyone knows of such a plane on the web? Besides, does anyone have this kit? > How good it is? It was worth the 5 bucks I spent into it? > thanks in advance Here are some references: Windsock Vol 05 No 01 47 DH6 29-30 1/72nd Phoenix review Windsock Vol 07 No 04 47 DH6 3-4,6,8 Photo's Windsock Vol 07 No 04 47 DH6 3-8 Feature article Windsock Vol 07 No 04 47 DH6 6 Cockpit photo Windsock Vol 07 No 04 47 DH6 5,7 1/72nd scal drawings Windsock 112 47 DH6 76 Cockpits/Instruments Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 06:56:25 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Camel Questions Message-ID: <003301c04efb$157aefb0$e837183f@cyrixp166> A few questions about Camels: Why so many different power plants? Any correlation btw serial number and the type of engine installed? How does one tell the difference between a Clerget powered Camel & a Bentley Powered Camel? How many LeRhone Camels were produced? Who got them? How many Gnome Monosoupape Camels? Who got these? Was the 185 hp Clerget 9H ever used in production Camels? Did any French units fly Camels? Regards, John Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:02:27 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: DH 6 question Message-ID: <022b01c04efb$eced33e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt: Thanks a lot! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner > Here are some references: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:11:18 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Camel Questions Message-ID: In 'Winged victory' there is a lot of moaning because they had IIRC LeRhone camels, then they were delighted when they got them with Clergets, I can't quite remember if they ever got Bentley engines. I think it all had to do with availability. /Neil -----Original Message----- From: John & Allison Cyganowski [mailto:janah@worldnet.att.net] Sent: den 15 november 2000 13:05 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Camel Questions A few questions about Camels: Why so many different power plants? Any correlation btw serial number and the type of engine installed? How does one tell the difference between a Clerget powered Camel & a Bentley Powered Camel? How many LeRhone Camels were produced? Who got them? How many Gnome Monosoupape Camels? Who got these? Was the 185 hp Clerget 9H ever used in production Camels? Did any French units fly Camels? Regards, John Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:56:20 +0700 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: DH 6 question Message-ID: Diego, I have this kit. Very nice kit of a very ugly plane. Masters by Les Cooper. Aeroclub motor, wheels, prop. Nice decal sheet. Worth more than those 5 bucks. Volker -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of dfernet0 Sent: Mittwoch, 15. November 2000 18:53 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: DH 6 question Hi Seems like I'm the winner of an auction for a Phoenix 1/72 Dehavilland D.H.6. Well, I bid on this on Ebay idly and seems like no one else wanted it! I can't find any picture of this plane in my library nor in the net (yet) anyone knows of such a plane on the web? Besides, does anyone have this kit? How good it is? It was worth the 5 bucks I spent into it? thanks in advance D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:30:47 +0100 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Cc: "dfernet0" Subject: Diego's new caricature Message-ID: <01da01c04eff$e2532260$320106c0@acasirat> Thank you Diego !!! All of the fans of Diego's caricatures may be interested in knowing that his new one, showing the Ansaldo A-1 Balilla, is on line at: http://www.museostoricobg.org/english/locatelli/model.htm Enjoy it ! Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:36:06 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Diego's new caricature Message-ID: Thanks Alberto for the url, and thanks Diego for the lovely drawing. What Alberto didn't mention, is that there is an article by himself , Michael Kendix and Matt Bittner connected to the drawing. I probably haven't been concentrating as usual, so I missed this, but now this site is going straight into my bookmarks. /Neil -----Original Message----- From: Alberto Casirati [mailto:ammi-alme@unicalce.it] Sent: den 15 november 2000 13:25 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Diego's new caricature Thank you Diego !!! All of the fans of Diego's caricatures may be interested in knowing that his new one, showing the Ansaldo A-1 Balilla, is on line at: http://www.museostoricobg.org/english/locatelli/model.htm Enjoy it ! Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 06:46:56 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Diego's new caricature Message-ID: <200011151248.EAA08682@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:41:37 -0500 (EST), Crawford Neil wrote: > Thanks Alberto for the url, and thanks Diego for the lovely drawing. > What Alberto didn't mention, is that there is an article by himself > , Michael Kendix and Matt Bittner connected to the drawing. I probably > haven't been concentrating as usual, so I missed this, but now this site > is going straight into my bookmarks. It's also available as a link in the site's Links page. Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:10:22 EST From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: TomTheAeronut@aol.com, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: VCR alert - was Re: film alert et cetera Message-ID: Well, if you want, you can fill me in, Tom, as I'm far from sure that I'll be able to catch this. (I think I can catch my wife's flu though.) Was it a WWI or PT2 sub? What do they mean by "not where it's supposed to be"? Cheers, Steve In a message dated 11/15/2000 6:08:43 AM, TomTheAeronut@aol.com writes: << For any of you who missed the NOVA show on PBS about the discovery of the U-boat where it wasn't supposed to be that was on tonight, it will be repeated Saturday and is well worth catching the show. Very interesting stuff!! Tom Cleaver >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:14:03 EST From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: What is "cook-up"? What is "OAW"? Message-ID: <85.2e93015.2743e61b@aol.com> I guess I'm new. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:20:46 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: What is "cook-up"? What is "OAW"? Message-ID: <027c01c04f06$ddb50500$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> The Albatros "Cook Up" is an online effort to complete a variety of models of Albatros fighters, gathering info and modelling techniques involved in the process in a single website. Check the WW1 modelling website, there's a link for the site on the opening page. Seems like we will have several cook ups in the future for different planes: sopwiths, nieuports, sablatniks and Leveques ;-) OAW stands for "Ostdeutsche Albatros Werke" IIRC, a factory of albatros planes back in WW1 years. HTH D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 10:18 AM Subject: What is "cook-up"? What is "OAW"? > I guess I'm new. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:24:41 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: What is "cook-up"? What is "OAW"? Message-ID: I'ld like to know the rules for the cook-up too. Don't know what OAW is either/Neil -----Original Message----- From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com [mailto:Stephendigiacomo@aol.com] Sent: den 15 november 2000 14:18 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: What is "cook-up"? What is "OAW"? I guess I'm new. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:26:20 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: What is "cook-up"? What is "OAW"? Message-ID: <200011151327.FAA08722@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:26:56 -0500 (EST), dfernet0 wrote: > The Albatros "Cook Up" is an online effort to complete a variety of models > of Albatros fighters, gathering info and modelling techniques involved in > the process in a single website. Check the WW1 modelling website, there's a > link for the site on the opening page. Seems like we will have several cook > ups in the future for different planes: sopwiths, nieuports, sablatniks and > Leveques ;-) You forgot about Letord (sp?)! ;-) Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:39:35 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Voss cowling? Message-ID: Ray, the name of the pilot was WOLFF, not Wulf - altough the translation of the name was correct :o). His tripes cowl was painted OLIVE, not red. You can read a report about hist death at my website if you like. Please go to the ACES section at http://www.jastaboelcke.de sincerely Gaston > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Ray Boorman > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:23 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Voss cowling? > > > Aghhhhh, 109 Spitfire 109 Spitfire 109 sheesh. Ok if we have to open this > can of worms why not seriously add the question of; what colour was the > cowling of the other F1 aircraft that Wulf died flying. Was it painted red > or olive?? > > Ray > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Brian Nicklas > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:52 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Voss cowling? > > > > Hey! I've got an open wound! Anyone got some salt ??!! > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:48:40 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Cook-up Message-ID: There are no 'rules' per se for a cook-up. It's just a on-line get together where people concentrate on a specific topic in their building and try to put together models and articles covering the variety in that topic. The first one was simply Albatros aircraft -- D.II, D.III, D.V, and D.Va for the most part, but the W.4 and a C.III also fit in. For an Albatros cook-up, it focuses on techniques like wood grain and varied markings. Have fun, build what you want, see what others are doing, learn, share,... those are the only rules. It's the modeler equivalent of kindergarden -- without a recess bell. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:08:27 GMT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Mixing Sibergrau Message-ID: >From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com >Excellent posts on paint for which I thank everyone. >Now, as far as mixing up some "silbergrau" - is it as easy as its name >implies? Just a mix of 50/50 silver and grey? Stephen: I used 3 parts light grey to one part aluminium on my 1/72nd scale Pfalz D.IIIa. I think it could do with more aluminium but it's a matter of taste to some degree. Also, in 1/72nd scale, I don't like to make things too shiny because that tends to make my models look too toy-like to me. Michael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:30:10 -0600 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: WWI Colors and RLM colors Message-ID: <3A129DF2.4D55B904@x25.net> Not OT, except as much as you want it to be, but relative to all things I also believe that DIN was probably the beginning. Nothing breeds bureaucracy like a bureaucracy. Many believe these things are established to solve a problem. Not true. They are established to to give longer life to the bureau. If they solve the problem they have no reason to exist. So you have the beginning of problems as soon as they are around. RLM never will end as long as they can make a new decision. Pythagorean Theorem: 24 Words The Lords Prayer 66 Words Archimede’s Principle 67 Words The Ten Commandments 179 Words The Gettysburg Address 286 Words The Declaration of Independence 1,300 Words U. S Government Regulations On the sale of Cabbage 26, 911 Words Which of these do you believe are more important? Lee M. Jan Vihonen wrote: > After a good while I'm sort of returning to my old love, modelling of > aircraft with (generally) more than one plane and I've been lurking here > now for a while. I've found discussions very informative and > captivating. > > Referring to the discussion of WWI colours and their connection to RLM > colours I would like to point out that most of the RLM colours, as well > as most of the German tank colours of that era were picked up from the > DIN (Deutche Industrie Norm) Standards. Well, I'm not sure whether DIN > Standards existed in the time of WWI but clearly, as Lee points out > there must be a manufacturer first before we can get a paint. > > While not being able to get DF monographs of Fok. Dr. I at my disposal I > would appreciate it if some one could give me the colour equivalents > (Methuen) given there for the general paintwork of that plane. > > Jani > > Lee Mensinger wrote: > > > > Do not need to have an RLM in place. All that was needed is paint and a company to manufacture stuff that looked, worked and lasted the same over a long time > > period. Government standards are OK but in the beginning it will always be an available manufacturer first. > > > > The RLM Standard is used as a relative comparison point no matter when it came into being. We do have it now so it can be referenced just the same as the F. S. 595 > > we use in this country. It gives commonality to the eyes for comparison purposes. > > > > That is one way to tell the difference between ants and elephants. Just look at them. > > > > Lee M. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:26:18 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: DH 6 question Message-ID: <002f01c04f10$05bcbc60$1cb58dd0@main> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dfernet0" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:52 AM Subject: DH 6 question > Hi > Seems like I'm the winner of an auction for a Phoenix 1/72 Dehavilland > D.H.6. Well, I bid on this on Ebay idly and seems like no one else wanted > it! > I can't find any picture of this plane in my library Hi D, I would be happy to send you pictures from my Harleyford book, send me your address & it will be off tomarrow. Best regards, Dale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:26:34 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Bunch of site changes Message-ID: <200011151428.GAA19315@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> I only have one more section to move from the Model Gallery page to the Real Photo page, that being the images from the Rockcliff museum. I also discovered a bunch of SPAD 13 images I forgot that Pedro provided - those have been moved to the SPAD 13 section. Plus I changed the look to the Real Photo start page - LMK what you think. It was getting difficult to see each aircraft type, hence the change. I haven't decided if I'm going to be lazy and add the entire Rockcliff section to Various, or get off my lazy butt and move the images into their respective pages. Maybe I'll work on it tomorrow... Pretty soon the Model Gallery page will be devoted to nothing but models. Novel concept, eh? :-) Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:27:59 +0700 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Same place, same time - was: 2cents on 2 Pfalz kits Message-ID: John said: "Hi All, Just received my Roden Pfalz D.III & D.IIIa kits today from NKR models...." By a strange coincidence, I also just got the Pfalz today, and also from NKR, and also within one week only (including 2 days delay by "Pos Malaysia"for customs clearance, which then is actually better than their standard). These kits really look great - Now get me those Gothas. And what a perfect service (not to mention the prices) from Earl at NKR! Even though it´s strictly ot, I must admit that I am even more enthusiastic about that Rutan Voyager that was also in the box. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:52:46 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: LWF Message-ID: LWF stands for: Lowe, Willard and Fowler Engineering Co of New York, New York, USA. (For once three initials doesn't mean it's German...) Sorry, deleted original thread on which LWF was the spedific subject. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:35:39 +0700 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: LWF Message-ID: However, it was later claimed it stands for Linen, Wire and Fabric Volker -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Brian Nicklas Sent: Mittwoch, 15. November 2000 21:54 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: LWF LWF stands for: Lowe, Willard and Fowler Engineering Co of New York, New York, USA. (For once three initials doesn't mean it's German...) Sorry, deleted original thread on which LWF was the spedific subject. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:57:35 GMT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: DH 6 question Message-ID: >Seems like I'm the winner of an auction for a Phoenix 1/72 Dehavilland >D.H.6. Well, I bid on this on Ebay idly and seems like no one else >wanted >it! >I can't find any picture of this plane in my library nor in the net > >(yet) anyone knows of such a plane on the web? Besides, does anyone >have >this kit? How good it is? It was worth the 5 bucks I spent into it? I have this vacuform kit. My kit has a single vacuformed sheet (nice crisp female mold) and three 6 inch lengths of strut material, plus the instructions. The detail on the flying surfaces is excellent, however, it's single sided which makes for the usual problems for the tail rudder, but you should be able to handle that. The fuselage is OK except that it might need some more detailing. There's no propeller - it's supposed to be a 4-blade and the engine detail is what you would expect from a vac - probably need replacing. Also, no wheels, but that's probably easy to solve. Is it worth $5? Sure, just for curiousity's sake but "This ain't no Roseplane neighbourhood". I have no references for it and it's way down my list of "too build" but it is definately buildable. Michael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2808 **********************