WWI Digest 2783 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Why models at all? Was Hartford Show (off-list) by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 2) Re: HTML hash and trash by Lee Mensinger 3) Re: Aeroclub's B.E.2c by KarrArt@aol.com 4) Re: Hartford Show (off-list) by "David Calhoun" 5) Re: On the 1/72 Toko Pfalz D XII by KarrArt@aol.com 6) Re: HTML by Lee Mensinger 7) Re: Interesting Camouflage Articles by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Re: My crappy modelpage. by "Tom Solinski" 9) Camoflage Colors by MAnde72343@aol.com 10) Farman kits by MAnde72343@aol.com 11) Interior Colour of Pfalz D.III by "Perrin, Rodd" 12) New Aeroclub Kits by Todd Hayes 13) A nice discovery by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 14) Re: Camoflage Colors by KarrArt@aol.com 15) Re: My crappy modelpage. by KarrArt@aol.com 16) B.E.2c question by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 17) Re: Chris Gannon and Veejay. by David Fleming 18) I am back ! by "Alberto Casirati" 19) RE: On/Off List WAS: Why models at all? by Crawford Neil 20) RE: Alb D.V help by "dfernet0" 21) Re: Farman kits by "Matt Bittner" 22) RE: Cookup finished!!!!!! by "dfernet0" 23) a help from the friends by "dfernet0" 24) Re: a help from the friends by smperry@mindspring.com 25) Re: Ansaldo Balilla by "Alberto Casirati" 26) Re-subbing and question by Crawford Neil 27) Aeroclub's BE2 by "Matt Bittner" 28) Re: Re-subbing and question by "Matt Bittner" 29) Nice Voisin 3 on Hyperscale by Jean-Baptiste VERLHAC 30) Re: Re-subbing and question by Allan Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:43:37 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Why models at all? Was Hartford Show (off-list) Message-ID: <002001c0478a$9aa0eaf0$c338183f@cyrixp166> I visited the monument (6ft taller than the Washington Monument - Everything's bigger 'n' Texas son). Viewed the USS Texas from there. Played pool and drank LoneStar at Beesaws too! Not too bad for a Damn Yankee. Cyg. > The USS Texas is still around. She served in WWI and WWI part II. She is > berthed at San Jacinto State Park near Houston. > > Why is this thread titled off-list? > > Later! > > Brent > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 19:52:41 -0600 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: HTML hash and trash Message-ID: <3A060EE9.5D2A5CA5@x25.net> What ever you needed to do was done since none of the usual nonsense came in woth this one. Lee M. MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > I apologize to the list, but it seems I can't 'turn off "the HTML or whatever > is trashing up my messages, I will try to stay silent in future. To explain, > I recently 'upgraded' to AOL 6.0, and the problem is somewhere in there, > probably another plot by AOL to take over the net, sorry for the > inconvenience. > Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:43:24 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Aeroclub's B.E.2c Message-ID: In a message dated 11/5/00 9:13:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, TomTheAeronut@aol.com writes: << for two aircraft: 4112 flown by Lt. Fredrick Sowrey of 39 Home Defense Squadron when he shot down Zeppelin L-32, 1916 (this is a single seater, BTW) >> 'ats the one I scratch built several years ago and appeared in FSM....eventually they all catch up with you and hit you in the snout with a kit. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:47:51 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Hartford Show (off-list) Message-ID: <001201c047ac$b9c7cd00$c52f3ccc@oemcomputer> Hi Steve, I don't know if you are aware of this or not, but Rosemont Hobbies does a line of resin detail parts in 1/72 scale. Also Aeroclub does nice white metal detail parts. Rosemont has a web site - check the links out on the WW1 web page. This will get you some good parts such as wheels, engines & guns probably much better than theToko stuff. Or else just buy an Eduard profipack Albatros D.V or Fokker Dr.1and you won't need much else. Do you get most of your stuff at Craftec? Prices are a little high but they are good folks and can special order most things. See you, Dave C----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: Re: Hartford Show (off-list) > > Ha! Dave, you know, one of the things to bog me down and delay a kit's > completion is the lack of reference material at my fingertips. I presently > have about twelve kits in various stages of work. I don't mind that since I > can usually move on one while waiting to make a decision on another. But as > we all know, it's the time that can most affect our progress. > Right now I'm at a stop because I cannot find my putty. We moved a > couple of months ago and my whole model building area has gone to hell. I > can't do much without filling in the cracks first - you know, can't paint the > fuselages and so on. I'm waiting for my wife to come back from errands so I > can slink out to pick up yet another hobby item - the putty. But I also saw > a nice sculpting set with all kinds of shaped pointy things. Looks like it > could be real useful. And I still haven't gotten a scribing tool. > I really think that the WWI kits are the most enjoyable for their > finished appearance. What do you get with a ot era kit? A fuselage with a > pair of wings. Big deal. I do like the ot kits, but there's something that > rings true about the WWI era stuff being "proper" airplanes as one > listmember's wife said. That along witht the personal paint schemes the > Germans were allowed in that era makes for a much more colorful history > exhibit/decoration. > I can see that I must start eventually building various parts from > scratch. I was not happy with the Toko kit. I really think that they didn't > pay close attention to their specs for this kit. I also have Glencoe's 1/225 > U.S.S. Olympia (1893 - 1918 with the fleet) which is going to give me a lot > of trouble with the superstructure at the main deck level. I think that I > will have to build the bulwarks from scratch or use a lot of putty. I'm > going to check and see if the U.S. Navy used any of the three ships of this > class for their early air experiments. (They were actually looking to land > planes on ships! Ha! REDICULOUS and a waste of taxpayers' money.) If they > did it would be interesting to rig up their adapted apparati - probably on > the stern. Hmmm. Where's my 1/225 converter? > I really apologize if this rant is too long. > See you next Sunday. > ~Steve > > In a message dated 11/5/2000 7:11:19 PM, dave@vga-graphics.com writes: > > << Steve > > > My experiences seem to parallel yours pretty much... I got back into modeling > through my > > children, my oldest son (now 14) got into models as a result of the original > Red Baron > > computer flight sim about six years ago, he wanted to build a Fokker Dr.1 > since that was > > his favorite a/c in the game. WW1 subjects were always my favorites too (how > many Aurora > > kits did I build at .79c a pop?) and so I sort of got back into it as a way > for he and I > > to spend some more time together. Then his little brother followed suit, and > even their > > sister and I have slapped a kit or two together. I haven't been doing too > much lately > > though, I know what you mean about responsibilities. Between a girlfriend and > a new job at > > GE I haven't had opportunity to do much modeling; although the former and I > are on the > > outs now, which gives me a *bit* of leisure time. > > > My own efforts approach the level of insanity (but not skill) of some of the > guys on the > > list, my AVRO 504K to N conversion got as far as the cockpit and then bogged > down after > > about four months. I'll bring it down so you can see it, the interior > framework is > > basswood and stainless steel wire bracing, the sticks were turned from > toothpicks on a > > makeshift Dremel mini-lathe, etc. Problem is that I get tied up in details > and then lose > > interest and start something else. My current project is a Sopwith Baby, I'm > happily > > spending today in sub-miniature joinery making floats from model RR basswood > sheet sanded > > down to about 1/72" thickness. > > > I've got a 1:28 SPAD, which I plan on someday building as a French a/c, and > I've built two > > Dr.1s with the boys. I have pieces of one of my original Revell kits, in > light blue > > plastic, with a photo on the boxtop of the built-up kit in Voss' colors. I'll > keep my eyes > > out for you, in fact I think one of our local hobby shops has a copy of the > Revell Germany > > kit lying around. I'll see how much they want for it if you're interested. > > > I'm actually from S. Egremont, Mass., about 15 miles north of Canaan, CT if > you know the > > NW corner area at all. I used to work in Avon and Canton, though, and have > been coming > > down to Bradley for years, so I'm pretty familliar with your area. I'm > looking forward to > > meeting you, and seeing Dave again, it ought to be fun to get together and > talk WW1 > > stuff... > > > All best, > > > Dave >> > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:44:20 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: On the 1/72 Toko Pfalz D XII Message-ID: <38.d7328fd.273766f4@aol.com> In a message dated 10/30/00 9:21:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, bpearson@rapidnet.net writes: << wait for the Pfalz book >> No.....I want it NOW. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 19:58:01 -0600 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: HTML Message-ID: <3A061029.2862EF93@x25.net> The solution may be to make all of your messages start out as a reply and then change the heading so it is not a reply. Since it appears an original is the cause of you being a culprit and the victim become an aggressor and don't do it according to their rules. Make up your own. Lee M. MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > --part1_22.d4b3925.27374b73_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The answers are, no I didn't do anything different except one was original > and one was a reply, AOL only knows, and their "tech" department was NO HELP > AT ALL. This has been frustrating, it's some kind of software problem, hidden > where I can't get at it, I don't have any controls at this end (another > lovely AOL innovation, the uninformed supposedly "Can't Screw Up," so they do > it for you. > Merrill > > --part1_22.d4b3925.27374b73_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The answers are, no I didn't do anything different except one was original
and one was a reply, AOL only knows, and their "tech" department was NO HELP
AT ALL. This has been frustrating, it's some kind of software problem, hidden
where I can't get at it, I don't have any controls at this end (another
lovely AOL innovation, the uninformed supposedly "Can't Screw Up," so they do
it for you. >
Merrill >
>
> > --part1_22.d4b3925.27374b73_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:32:50 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Interesting Camouflage Articles Message-ID: <58.2de0d52.27377252@aol.com> In a message dated 10/30/00 10:24:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, MSHANNON@tnrcc.state.tx.us writes: << One interesting point is what one of the American camouflage patent holders described about his 'invention', concerning the use of red, violet, and green in combinations -- this may help explain the thinking behind the otherwise perplexing use of lilac on German aircraft, and some of the thinking behind lozenge. .Mark. >> concerning purple, here's one of the conclusions from the official report on the bizzarre Sopwith Salamander scheme: "Purple is a good color, and may be safely used for dark patches" The report was signed by some general named "Weir'...... RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:31:04 -0600 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: My crappy modelpage. Message-ID: <003f01c047a1$fe3d2260$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> Marten NOT So crappy, whole lot better than the Solinski home page. I'd say well done for a first outing! but.... none of the links work at my end. I just get Tyvärr warnings Keep up the struggle! Tom S ----- Original Message ----- From: Mårten Tyllström To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: My crappy modelpage. > Hi folks. > > I have after a considerable amount of time finaly given up the dream of a > good looking homepage and resigned to this: > > http://hem.passagen.se/caudron/doc3.htm. > > If you hit "My link page" you should be able to see some of my > models, OT and other. > > Feel free to comment on both them and why only one of my "link-buttons" work > propperly. I really could use some help here. > Oh and, off list please. > > Regards > Mårten > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 22:34:05 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Camoflage Colors Message-ID: <51.3114011.273780ad@aol.com> --part1_51.3114011.273780ad_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have known, for years, that when you paint 'distant' woods in landscapes, you paint them 'purple,' so the purple in camo does not seem that strange, colors seen at distance are muted by atmospheric scattering, and that seems to change the 'values' that the eye perceives. That said, there are even more bizarre camouflage methods, during the second mess, some planes had LIGHTS affixed to them as camouflage, and it worked! Something to do with matching the light values of the sky, there was a show on PBS some years ago that demonstrated it, they took an armored vehicle and put it on the horizon, and it stuck out, then they covered it with lightbulbs on a frame and it disappeared, weird, but true. Merrill --part1_51.3114011.273780ad_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have known, for years, that when you paint 'distant' woods in landscapes,
you paint them 'purple,' so the purple in camo does not seem that strange,
colors seen at distance are muted by atmospheric scattering, and that seems
to change the 'values' that the eye perceives.  That said, there are even
more bizarre camouflage methods, during the second mess, some planes had
LIGHTS affixed to them as camouflage, and it worked! Something to do with
matching the light values of the sky, there was a show on PBS some years ago
that demonstrated it, they took an armored vehicle and put it on the horizon,
and it stuck out, then they covered it with lightbulbs on a frame and it
disappeared, weird, but true.
Merrill

--part1_51.3114011.273780ad_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 22:46:58 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Farman kits Message-ID: <2d.3199a76.273783b2@aol.com> --part1_2d.3199a76.273783b2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Saturday I was at John Roll's (Roll Models) and he showed me the two Farman kits, the HR and the Omega, both looked pretty good (I know, Matt at least hates HR), but the Omega was better, at least looking at it in the box. Merrill --part1_2d.3199a76.273783b2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Saturday I was at John Roll's (Roll Models) and he showed me the two Farman
kits, the HR and the Omega, both looked pretty good (I know, Matt at least
hates HR), but the Omega was better, at least looking at it in the box.
Merrill

--part1_2d.3199a76.273783b2_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:02:01 +1100 From: "Perrin, Rodd" To: "WWI List (E-mail)" Subject: Interior Colour of Pfalz D.III Message-ID: <153147E594F3D1119B650000F879DDB802F1C792@unclasses01.rlmsystems.com.au> I would like to thank the list for all the responses I got to this query. I ended up painting the interior a mid grey (easiest of all options :-) ). With a bit of a dark grey wash and a little dry brushing it doesn't look half bad. Now, if I can get the rest of the kit to look as good...... Thanks again Rodd ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:17:02 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: New Aeroclub Kits Message-ID: <20001106041702.18091.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Has anyone bought one of these kits in the U.S.? Roll Models said they were expecting a new Aeroclub shipment but weren't sure if the BE's were included. And for listees interested in these kits, a/g has released new sheets for British 2-seaters. #165 has several 1:48 BE's and RE's. TH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:58:03 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: A nice discovery Message-ID: <58.2de0dd8.2737945b@aol.com> Well, Jennings Heilig was out to la-la land for business, and gave me a call - he just left after a very enjoyable several hours talking models and modeling gossip, etc. So far, I am batting a thousand on folks I've met on the net turning out in person to be pretty much what was expected. He also told me Brian Nicklaus' three rules of life: 1. never turn down a chance to eat. 2. never turn down a chance to drink. 3. never turn down a ride in an airplane. Sounds about right to me!! :-) Cheers, Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:40:16 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Camoflage Colors Message-ID: <63.d5e0c1e.2737ac50@aol.com> In a message dated 11/5/00 7:38:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, MAnde72343@aol.com writes: << I have known, for years, that when you paint 'distant' woods in landscapes, you paint them 'purple,' so the purple in camo does not seem that strange, colors seen at distance are muted by atmospheric scattering, and that seems to change the 'values' that the eye perceives. That said, there are even more bizarre camouflage methods, during the second mess, some planes had LIGHTS affixed to them as camouflage, and it worked! Something to do with matching the light values of the sky, there was a show on PBS some years ago that demonstrated it, they took an armored vehicle and put it on the horizon, and it stuck out, then they covered it with lightbulbs on a frame and it disappeared, weird, but true. Merrill >> All kinds of strange stuff goes into what we see. Those lights on some WW II planes were an attempt to match the reflectance of the background light. Besides the tank stuff, a B-24 was rigged up this way for chasing U-boats at surface level, and it couldn't be seen coming over the horizoni- it matched the brightness of its background. Purple makes sense, as it's the complimentary of yellow, and colors tend to move toward their comps as the distance increases. You want to paint a picture of a distant yellow object? Start working in purple, and vice versa. RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:40:17 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: My crappy modelpage. Message-ID: In a message dated 11/5/00 7:34:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, tskio4@home.com writes: << Marten NOT So crappy, whole lot better than the Solinski home page. I'd say well done for a first outing! but.... none of the links work at my end. I just get Tyvärr warnings Keep up the struggle! Tom S >> I got your picture, and a link that took me to the kerosene burners! BTW- are you and your wife trying to overrun the world with mini-Tylstroms? RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 03:07:10 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: B.E.2c question Message-ID: Well, I think it's likely I am going to do the Sowrey zep-killer. So now I have a question regarding markings: The Aeroclub markings instructions say that the upper surfaces of both wings were PC10. The DataFile says the upper surface of the lower wing was PC10, and that the upper was overall CDL. Did Aeroclub discover something after the Archangel Rimmel wrote his commandments in 1993?? Looking forward to some guidance here. Cheers, TC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 16:29:06 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Chris Gannon and Veejay. Message-ID: <3A058AD2.A0D5C7C@dial.pipex.com> "Paul E. Thompson" wrote: > Dear everyone, > > This is old news since I'm catching up on digests after a weeks holiday, > but I noticed someone stirring up the old Gannon/veejay story, and the > ensuing warning to leave it for reasons of liability. I don't want to > resurrect this thread, but just came across a letter from Gannon in the > January 1983 Scale Models that, if he's still of the same mind and scanning > the list, you may want to take note of in future. Letter follows as printed > in the magazine: > > "In view of certain rumours. totally unfounded, presently circulating the > modelling world in general, I would be extremely grateful if you would > publish the following statement at your earliest opportunity. Hopefully > these rumours will then cease completely. > I, Chris Gannon, wish it to be known that Pegasus Models is not, and never > has been, in any way connected with Messrs. Veejay Models. Any person heard > to refer to such an alliance will be liable to prosecution for defamation > of character, and will be duly charged under the libel act, also for any > loss of business incurred due to such information being falsely made known. > I have no liability or responsibility for Veeday Models, and am not > prepared to enter into any correspondence concerning the aforementioned > business in any shape or form." > > There's a bit more, but as a statement I think the above is fairly > definitive, no? Ignoring the incorrect legality (You don't prosecute for defamation), it says there was no connection between Pegasus & Veeday, not CG & Veeday. Whatevre, it's all water under the bridge now - who knows ? D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:18:14 +0100 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: "Matthew Bittner" , Cc: Subject: I am back ! Message-ID: <043001c047da$e0d87a60$320106c0@acasirat> Hello all. Just a couple of lines to tell you I am back after that short period of holidays....lived with flu ! All the very best, Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:09:14 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: On/Off List WAS: Why models at all? Message-ID: I'm listening to MK "sailing to Philadelphia" too, its great. /Neil NB Revell Ni28 1/72 Just managed to get the roundels on, by removing the centres of Microscale AEF roundels, so as to enlarge the white areas. ANy ideas for toning down the rather dark bright blue? -----Original Message----- From: David Vosburgh [mailto:dave@vga-graphics.com] Sent: den 6 november 2000 00:14 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: On/Off List WAS: Why models at all? Brent This was off-list because the original was a personal e-mail I sent to Steve, somehow in the back and forth it got back on-list. Glad to be back and throwing things into chaos, as usual. DV NB: Baby floats out of basswood sheet sanded to within 1/72" of its life NL: Mark Knopfler's "Sailing to Philadelphia" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:19:11 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Alb D.V help Message-ID: <01ee01c047e3$658c0f80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Belts on greyish sand colour, buckles and metalware on light gray. D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 05:32:36 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Farman kits Message-ID: <200011061132.DAA20200@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> "Saturday I was at John Roll's (Roll Models) and he showed me the two Farman kits, the HR and the Omega, both looked pretty good (I know, Matt at least hates HR), but the Omega was better, at least looking at it in the box." If I had to choose between HR and Omega, Omega would always win. Their resin has more finesse and overall attention to detail better. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:31:29 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Cookup finished!!!!!! Message-ID: <02b001c047e5$1b1640e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> A thing of beauty... Great model! I'm loking forward to see that diorama completed. Keep the good work! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:52:44 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: a help from the friends Message-ID: <037601c047e8$1365d740$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Friends I want to say a big Thanks for all the help regarding the wind driven rotherham pump I received since friday. It certainly confirms the great group we've formed here. Regarding my curiosity about these devices, it comes from the sudden memory of an uncompleted Academy camel model that I've upgraded externally with a new CSM 1/72 engine, exhaust channel, CSM PE prop boss, modified UC, new wheels, paint scheme, decals and rigging, but I forgot to add those small struts attachments as the pitot heads and the rotherham pump. The Camel is painted in a generic 43rd squadron guise with a white triangle on its side. The only thing I've left aside are the tail unit, since it was so well glued that I feard to destroy the entire model trying to pop it out, so I left it OOB apart from rigging. Someday i'll take pictures of it.... If I'm drunk enough. The model isn't as anal as my models are starting to be, but it was a nice practice session for the upcoming stage of my Albatros. Thanks again for your help D. NL: Dire Straits, "Money for Nothing" but really low because i'm at the office and I'd be working and not listening to cool music or writing list messagesorwastingtimethinkingonlittleaeroplanesbutIdontcareaslongasmybosscan tseeme... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 07:09:17 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: a help from the friends Message-ID: <004401c047ea$644f1e80$54f0aec7@default> I'd be working and not listening to cool music or writing list > messagesorwastingtimethinkingonlittleaeroplanesbutIdontcareaslongasmybosscan > tseeme... > I tried to convince my boss that AMS was covered under the Americans with disabilities act and by law I should be accomodated.. He said it wouldnt fly. "But they're plastic static-scale models and don't need to fly", I pleaded... in vain . sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:36:37 +0100 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: Re: Ansaldo Balilla Message-ID: <048f01c047ee$36c14c00$320106c0@acasirat> Dear Witold, > It was faster, had better climbing speed and almost twice operational > range than Oeffag D.III but there were problems with engine SPA. Our pilots didn't like guns mounted under engine cover like in A-H planes Italian Balilla was better than Polish built. Ansaldo was first plane built in Plage&Laskiewicz. It was about 80 kg heavier than Italian ones. All engines were bought in Italy. In early 20s we had engines produced most probably during the war, over three years engines stayed in magazine. From 159 engines 37 were withdrawn after control in Sept. 1922 classified as unusable. > Our pilots didn't like Ansaldo Balilla. Do you mean the Italian-built or the Polish-built ones ? How much were their performances and handling qualities different? Just wondering... All the very best, Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:42:54 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "WW1 list (E-mail)" Subject: Re-subbing and question Message-ID: Hi there, Three things: 1. I'm resubscribing. 2. I have a new mail-id at work, it is neil.crawford@volvo.com Would it be possible for Allan or Matt to change this in the model gallery on my page. TIA No hurry because the old mail-id will continue to work for a long time. 3. Does anyone who uses outlook have a good idea how to automatically move all mail from the list to a special folder, so that I can read it when I have time? There must be some distinctive feature on all mail from the list that I can test on, and no they don't all have references to the Voss cowling, that would have made it simpler;-) /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 06:50:05 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Aeroclub's BE2 Message-ID: <200011061249.EAA27066@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Although not my scale :-) Linden Hill Imports (http://www.lindenhillimports.com) has the Aeroclub BE2's in stock. I have dealt a lot with Linden Hill for my VVS modeling, and he gives excellent service. Highly recommended. Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 06:59:56 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Re-subbing and question Message-ID: <200011061259.EAA12976@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 07:47:26 -0500 (EST), Crawford Neil wrote: > 2. I have a new mail-id at work, it is neil.crawford@volvo.com > Would it be possible for Allan or Matt to change this in the model > gallery on my page. TIA Done. Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 14:29:47 +0100 From: Jean-Baptiste VERLHAC To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Nice Voisin 3 on Hyperscale Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20001106142947.007a86a0@pop.reaumur.u-bordeaux.fr> Hi Any advice on the Axel's Voisin 3 that appeared in hyperscale yesterday ? I have one in my shelves but i'm really afraid about the rigging scheme. Some time ago I've built the AJP Caudron G4 and the rigging really gave me headache!!!! Cheers Jean-Baptiste ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:50:00 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re-subbing and question Message-ID: <200011061350.IAA09204@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > 3. Does anyone who uses outlook have a good idea how to automatically move > all mail > from the list to a special folder, so that I can read it when I have time? > There must be > some distinctive feature on all mail from the list that I can test on, and > no they don't > all have references to the Voss cowling, that would have made it simpler;-) Mail from the list has these three distinctive header features: Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Originator: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Sender: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu -Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2783 **********************