WWI Digest 2763 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Sorry about that by smperry@mindspring.com 2) Re: Waldron Punch Sets by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 3) RE: Waldron Punch Sets by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 4) Pfalz D XII, D XIV and D XV - was: Toko in the Ukraine and the America by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 5) Re: HiTech Roland by Dan 6) RE: Post war use by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 7) Re: Reporting a miracle by "Mark Shannon" 8) Manfred von Richthofen picture was RE: Next Cookup by "Gaston Graf" 9) RE: Post war use by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 10) RE: Waldron Punch Sets by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 11) RE: Post war use by "Michael Kendix" 12) Re: Listmember query by "Dale Sebring" 13) Re: Reporting a miracle by Zulis@aol.com 14) Re: Reporting a miracle by "Sharon Henderson" 15) Re: Reporting a miracle by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 16) Re: Reporting a miracle by Zulis@aol.com 17) Re: Reporting a miracle by Zulis@aol.com 18) Re: FE2b Question by "Lance Krieg" 19) Re: Machine Guns by "Lance Krieg" 20) interesting site - ww1 art by Mark Miller 21) Re: Archer Fine Transfers by "DAVID BURKE" 22) Re: Waldron Punch Sets by "DAVID BURKE" 23) Alabtros Pub "von Richtofen's Flying Circus" by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 24) Re: Alabtros Pub "von Richtofen's Flying Circus" by "Lance Krieg" 25) Re: Alabtros Pub "von Richtofen's Flying Circus" by "Bob Pearson" 26) Curtiss Model T (Wanamaker Triplane Model 3) by "Jared Anthony Zichek" 27) Re: Alabtros Pub "von Richtofen's Flying Circus" by Zulis@aol.com 28) Re: Reporting a miracle by NodalPoint@aol.com 29) Re: Reporting a miracle by "Matt Bittner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 05:07:05 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Sorry about that Message-ID: <004e01c04259$28497840$36f0aec7@default> I forgot to check addresses again and sent a small image to the list rather than Witold. Sorry for the hash. sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 05:29:51 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Waldron Punch Sets Message-ID: <003301c0425c$57592ba0$bb37183f@cyrixp166> Hi Candice, There are two main differences btw the sets - size & price. The precision punch & die set are ~$35(US) at Roll Models. The Sub-Miniature set goes for ~$75(US). A lot of money - I know. Basically the punches in this set are much smaller. & you get more sizes. If you want to build round covers or build up Rotary engine cylinders by stacking disks then the precision set is all you need. (Caution - building a double row Oberusel will put you in the rubber room - but you'll have the best looking rotary around). If you are already seriously disturbed & want to build individual switches/knobs/rivets, well then the subminiture set might be for you. :-) There was a write-up on these and other sets as well as sources in FSM a few years ago. I could dig up the article if you would like. You would know exactly what you were getting. I think some of the listees found a set of punches that were a little more reasonable in terms of price. Regards, John Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: Candice Uhlir To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 12:20 AM Subject: Waldron Punch Sets > What set would you guys suggest for 1/48 WW1 aircraft modeling....the > PRECISION PUNCH & DIE SET or SUB MINIATURE PUNCH & DIE SET? And what is the > difference, just size?? > > Candice > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:11:01 +0700 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Waldron Punch Sets Message-ID: For those living in Europe the RaiRo Punch and Die set is a worthwhile alternative. The set has 9 different sizes, ranging from 0.3 mm to 5 mm. No idea what the cost is today, but I got mine some 4 years ago for 40 Deutschmark (less than 20 $ with todays weak Euro) at a Model Exhibition in Frankfurt. However, this might have been a special offer at that time. Another highly interesting piece of equipment from RaiRo is their "Wachsspachtelgeraet", a kind of low temperature gap filling machine. Basically this is a small handle heated up to a temperature where plastic still does not melt, but the putty they use (adapted from that stuff used to model artificial teeth) does. Sounds strange, but it´s really an interesting way of filling gaps etc. Volker -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of John & Allison Cyganowski Sent: Montag, 30. Oktober 2000 17:42 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Waldron Punch Sets Hi Candice, There are two main differences btw the sets - size & price. The precision punch & die set are ~$35(US) at Roll Models. The Sub-Miniature set goes for ~$75(US). A lot of money - I know. Basically the punches in this set are much smaller. & you get more sizes. If you want to build round covers or build up Rotary engine cylinders by stacking disks then the precision set is all you need. (Caution - building a double row Oberusel will put you in the rubber room - but you'll have the best looking rotary around). If you are already seriously disturbed & want to build individual switches/knobs/rivets, well then the subminiture set might be for you. :-) There was a write-up on these and other sets as well as sources in FSM a few years ago. I could dig up the article if you would like. You would know exactly what you were getting. I think some of the listees found a set of punches that were a little more reasonable in terms of price. Regards, John Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: Candice Uhlir To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 12:20 AM Subject: Waldron Punch Sets > What set would you guys suggest for 1/48 WW1 aircraft modeling....the > PRECISION PUNCH & DIE SET or SUB MINIATURE PUNCH & DIE SET? And what is the > difference, just size?? > > Candice > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:38:39 +0700 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Pfalz D XII, D XIV and D XV - was: Toko in the Ukraine and the America Message-ID: Having just come back from an extended Deepavali (Hindu Festival of Lights) weekend on Langkawi (one of Malaysia´s most beautiful islands - but without a model shop), I reeeeead that Pfalz discussion with interest, as this planes are my favorites. Some comments on those mails: >I actually have a picture of the Pfalz D.XIV. >Interesting lower wing arrangement. >> Yes, but only a few, although with the BMW the DXII >> was supposed to be nearly >> equal to the DVII in climb, and faster in level >> flight, remember, the final >> version of the DXII, the DXIV, was planned, had the >> war continued, and it was >> supposed to be better than the DVII, in both speed >> and climb. >> Merrill Actually, the contemporary (WWI) sources are quite clear about the relative qualities of the D XII. Most of the Jagdstaffel diaries and pilot biographies (Like Stark´s "Die Jagdstaffel unsere Heimat" alias "Wings of War") state clearly that the Fokker was prefferred because of its overall better qualities. I have in my files a copy of the report of Sachsenberg (of the Marine Jagdgruppe/later Jagdgeschwader) concerning his experiences with the machines of the second D type contest. Under Pfalz D XII he states: " Machine is slower, climbs slower and is less manouverable than the Fokker D VII. It´s ONLY virtue is the fact that it´s solidly build." Actually, Sachsenberg goes on to note that the Albatros D XII "is better than the Pfalz". Finally he claims that "in my opinion, if a second machine should be build beside the Fokker D VII at all, it can only be the Albatros D XII. It is superior to the Pfalz in all aspects and only slightly less strong build. An agreement has been reached to make a comparative test between the Albatros and the Pfalz after the competition." However, he was obviously not aware that at that time (actually, before the D competition began) the pfalz had already been ordered into large scale production. Please note that this comparison (Fokker D VII/Albatros D XII/Pfalz D XII) was carried out with all machines equipped with the over-compressed Daimler D III a engine. There was a clear agreement that the BMW engine would result in comparable improvements for all machines. Therefore, there can be little doubt that the Pfalz D XII was really only a second grade machine, build mainly in order to use the existing Pfalz production capacity. The claims concerning a good performance of the D XII are actually a quite recent invention, coming mainly from some German WW I enthusiasts with a very strong Bavarian background. Looking on the D XIV, this was actually only a D XII with the Benz IV engine and an increased span (to 10.00 m) to cater for that engine´s higher weight. A clear failure, reports also state that the "only Benz IV fighter with a good performance" was again the Fokker D VII engined that way. The fighter with the new "verspannungslos" wing (with that "interseting lower wing arrangement") was the D XV, which was ordered into production to replace the D XII. While better than the standard Fokker D VII at least in speed (but not in climb performance, as far as I know), it should be remembered that at that time Fokker was also bringing out D VII refinements in the form of the V 34 and V 36 as well as the V 29 parasol. It seems at least the last 2 (I´ve never seen any reports on the V 34) were again superior in all aspects to the Pfalz. So while the Pfalz fighters were undoubtedly very elegant, they also had a tendency to come out second best only - not a good place in that game, as everybody who has ever seen "Top Gun" knows. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:12:40 -0500 From: Dan To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: HiTech Roland Message-ID: <39FD73C8.474E0885@mindspring.com> Whoops, sorry. I was thinking of the Breguet 14bs, for some reason. Dan Matt Bittner wrote: > On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:14:27 -0500 (EST), Dan wrote: > > > Why not just use the SAMI pics and the PMMS site pics as a rigging guide? The > > SAMI issue even has a Woodman article on the little beastie... > > Are you saying that there's a SAMI issue on the LFG Roland D.II? What > issue? > > Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:13:53 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: Post war use Message-ID: > Were any Aviatek Berg D-1's or HB D.1s used post 1918 in continuing eastern > european unpleasantness otherwise called the RCW? Not exactly in RCW, but IIRC there were some AB D.Is used by post war Hungarian air force. There were no AB D.Is or HB D.Is within Polish Air Force. I don't know about any AB D.Is or HB D.Is used by White Russians or Bolsheviks. Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:45:48 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Reporting a miracle Message-ID: In addition, if you were wondering about that appocalyptic thunderclap, I wish to report I have offically been able to start my cook-up Albatri Nothing unusual -- Flashar/Hipple dragon D.V, Voss D.III, and Johanson 'flower power' D.III. I may actually finish before the close of the century -- and I don't mean 1/1/01! .Mark. Dave Z. (Zulis@aol.com) wrote: >Well, here it is - posting at midnight because I, one of the leading >dreamers and fondlers of plastic, have actually finished something! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:47:51 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Manfred von Richthofen picture was RE: Next Cookup Message-ID: I have several pictures of MvR and his plane. Depends on which aircraft you want. Let me know if I can help you. If it's just to see a picture of him please feel free to read the article about the false Brown report at my website. Go to the ACES section and click on MvRs name. There are a lot of pics included. If you want a larger picture with no Jasta Boelcke watermark please contact me offlist. sincerely Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Witold Kozakiewicz > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:25 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Next Cookup > > > smperry@mindspring.com napisa³(a): > > > > Do you have the photo of MvR standing in front of the machine? > > sp > I only have In Action book about Albatross but I do not recollect if > there is MvR and his D.II. > > -- > Witold Kozakiewicz > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 22:12:27 +0700 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Post war use Message-ID: Plus, the D I was used both by the Austrians and the Yugoslav/Serb forces during the "Tiroler Abwehrkaempfe" in 1919. Too, I think the D I was used by the Ukraine (and maybe even in combat during the RCW). Hasn´t the Toko D I got decals from an pilot from the Ukrainian Air Force (or how ever it was called then)? Volker -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Tomasz Gronczewski Sent: Montag, 30. Oktober 2000 20:26 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Post war use > Were any Aviatek Berg D-1's or HB D.1s used post 1918 in continuing eastern > european unpleasantness otherwise called the RCW? Not exactly in RCW, but IIRC there were some AB D.Is used by post war Hungarian air force. There were no AB D.Is or HB D.Is within Polish Air Force. I don't know about any AB D.Is or HB D.Is used by White Russians or Bolsheviks. Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:58:07 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Waldron Punch Sets Message-ID: Candice, I have drooled over both of the Waldron punch sets and a custom set a friend makes here (all too expensive for me alas.) However there is a cheaper alternative if you are using thin sheet styrene and exercise some patience. Go get one of those leather punch tools - looks like a pair of pliers with a wheel on one end. The wheel has five or six punch tools in varying diameters. If the styrene isn't too thick this works fine but it's no good if you want the really teeny tiny discs. But like someone mentioned you can get PE or use rod stock or even sprue for those. I used it exclusively for scratching some instrument dials (three discs laminated) and even a bezel or two (now that's a recipe for the nut house.) on my 1/72 DVa for the cook-up (which is getting there I promise) You do have to be careful with them to ensure the disc doesn't distort when cut. But considering I got mine for $5 CDN it beats the bejeezus out of a Waldron (covet them though I do, I'd not get a lot of change out of $100 CDN. My two cents worth. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:25:18 GMT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Post war use Message-ID: >From: Volker Häusler >Plus, the D I was used both by the Austrians and the Yugoslav/Serb >forces >during the "Tiroler Abwehrkaempfe" in 1919. Too, I think the D >I was used >by the Ukraine (and maybe even in combat during the RCW). >Hasn´t the Toko >D I got decals from an pilot from the Ukrainian Air >Force (or how ever it >was called then)? Volker: I cannot recall for that specific kit, but the Ukranian decals are fairly ubiquitous in the Toko kits, probably because Toko was a Ukranian outfit. Similar issue for the ICM Ilya Mourametz. I'm uncertain about Roden, Toko's reincarnation. Given this understandable Ukranian bias, you might want to check on the scheme's veracity. Michael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:39:57 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: Listmember query Message-ID: <000b01c0427f$478d5b60$9eb58dd0@main> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Franklin" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Listmember query > Hello All, > > I'm still alive, just. I've been having some serious heart problems, > (unstable angina). The doctors want to do some procedures, (an Angiogram > and possible Angioplasty or bypass surgery) but my blood chemistry is also > all screwed up. The kidneys are not working properly because I have taken > too much Ibuprofen to ease the pain from my severe degenerative joint > disorder, (both of my hips are shot). The docs can't do anything for my > heart until my blood is somewhat back to normal or the kidneys will fail > completely. Also, the meds I'm taking to stabilize my heart has caused > bleeding from the retina into the vitreous (inside) of my left eye. I can > only see through one eye, so no modeling or anything that requires depth > perception. > So, I'm taking a pretty slow pace for now. I'm still teaching music, > composing, and working on some more decal projects for Dale Beamish, but > that's about it. > > All of this is the results of severe Testosterone Poisoning as a lad. > Youth, arrogance, and motorcycles are a dangerous combination. > > Marc, I mailed your SPAD and St*** decals Friday, USPS Priority Mail. > > Mike Franklin Dear Mike, Please except my best wishes for a speedy recovery. I understand what its like not feeling well. You are in our prayers. Sincerely, Dale & Gloria S. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:53:58 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Reporting a miracle Message-ID: <22.d290503.272ee586@aol.com> Ernest enquires; << Did you smoosh it down on top of the guns, or did you slip the guns in after the wing was in place? >> I dry-fitted the guns before the process, then slipped them into their slots afterwards. However, blue tac sticks to itself so easily that a small blob on the end of the tweezers can be used to collect kling-ons, so I think I could probably have got away with doing it the other way, too. Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:06:49 -0500 From: "Sharon Henderson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Reporting a miracle Message-ID: <200010301513.KAA08018@minion.netpolicy.com> Blue-tac and blue-tac! what is blue-tac? (extra points to the person who can tell me what Old Star Trek episode quote I'm parodying.... ) Seriously tho, blue-tac needs to be explained for those of us who are nomenclature-impaired. Is it like that white glop you can use to hang posters and other lightweight things on walls without staining or otherwise injuring the wall? Cheers, Sharon ---------- > Ernest enquires; > > << Did you smoosh it down on top of > the guns, or did you slip the guns in after the wing was in place? >> > > I dry-fitted the guns before the process, then slipped them into their slots > afterwards. However, blue tac sticks to itself so easily that a small blob > on the end of the tweezers can be used to collect kling-ons, so I think I > could probably have got away with doing it the other way, too. > > Dave Z > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:52:56 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Reporting a miracle Message-ID: Sharon asked: >Seriously tho, blue-tac needs to be explained for those of us who are >nomenclature-impaired. Is it like that white glop you can use to hang >posters and other lightweight things on walls without staining or otherwise >injuring the wall? > >Cheers, >Sharon It's actually Blu-Tac IIRC, familiar no doubt for those listees from the other side of the pond. It is the original white glop to put things on the walls, excepting its blue. During my boarding school days it was the business for tacking pictures of the fave band or pin-up on the study walls, much to the chagrin of the housemaster. I've always thought it would have great applications for modeling. . .only problem is I can't find the dang stuff here in Newfoundland. (sigh) of course those nasty rumours that I've been snitching my daughter's silly putty are malicious and unfounded. . .that's my story and I'm sticking to it ;-) >From my experience pretty much anything like this - silly putty, play-doh, etc - will work as well. The thing about blu-Tac was that it sticks to the stuff you want and stays there only as long as you want it to. (Also works great rolled into tubes and used to outline ot feathered camo schemes.) MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:19:03 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Reporting a miracle Message-ID: Sharon asked; << Blue-tac and blue-tac! what is blue-tac? (extra points to the person who can tell me what Old Star Trek episode quote I'm parodying.... ) Seriously tho, blue-tac needs to be explained for those of us who are nomenclature-impaired. Is it like that white glop you can use to hang posters and other lightweight things on walls without staining or otherwise injuring the wall? >> We had a brief international comparing of notes on this a few weeks ago, and it sounds like blue-tac is white in your neighborhood. It has consistency somewhat similar to plasticene and, as you said, was designed for hanging stuff on walls, etc. Great stuff for all sorts of things - I use it instead of a vise to hold small items while I paint them or, if I have to glue two really tiny parts together, I hold one still with a small blob of blue tac and use tweezers to attach the other. I even have a second blob, about half the size of a golf ball, which has been handled and kneaded so much that the "tackiness" is much less than the new stuff, and a piece of this low-tack stuff is what I used when attaching the top wing of the DVIII. As for the Star Trek reference.... no bonus points for me, I'm afraid... Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:23:30 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Reporting a miracle Message-ID: In a message dated 00-10-30 10:17:12 EST, you write: << I've always thought it would have great applications for modeling. . .only problem is I can't find the dang stuff here in Newfoundland. (sigh) >> Mark, I am sure you can get it at any store which sells pens, paper, stationary, that sort of thing. I bought mine at "Grand & Toy".... dont know if you have them on The Rock, though. And the reason I was miss-spelling it is because mine had the G&T brand-name on it, but I was assured this was their version of blu-tac. Cheap, too. Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:03:43 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: FE2b Question Message-ID: I spent considerable time researching this plane for a model a couple of years back, and never found any evidence that any sort belt was employed, even a field-modified one. One tall observer described his approach on those rare occasions when acrobatics were contemplated: he sat on the floor, holding onto the post of the Lewis mount, and draped his feet outside, gripping the cockpit rim with the backs of his knees. Apparently the crew could opt to fly that crate or shoot back, but could not exercise both options at the same time... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:12:29 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Machine Guns Message-ID: No one has mentioned the outstanding value to be found in the "World War One Parts Extravaganza" from Fotocut: Harry Woodman-supplied outlines for 2 each Lewis, Vickers, Parabellum, Spandau, and Schwartzlos, along with Scarff and German gunrings and a host of other useful items, including a Cooper bomb rack and a CFS bombsight. Comes in all popular scales, though you'ld have to be a true masochist to use all those parts in 1/72. The fret patterns for the Spandau are correct, too, which is something not every manufacturer can claim. Lance ------------------------------ Date: 30 Oct 2000 08:18:11 -0800 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: interesting site - ww1 art Message-ID: <20001030161811.28767.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Sorry if this is old news but I've never seen it before - some great paintings and I believe it qualifies as being OT check it out http://art-ww1.com/gb/visite.html Mark _______________________________________________________________________ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:17:09 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Archer Fine Transfers Message-ID: <008301c0428d$696dcf40$66e679a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Hayes" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 11:07 PM Subject: Archer Fine Transfers > Has anyone on the list used these before? I have some > but would like to know what to expect. > > TH > Great stuff! 2 ways of applying them: apply direct to model or apply to decal film and apply. Gives a slight raised texture and allows for excellent reproduction of stitching and rivets/fasteners. DB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:18:17 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Waldron Punch Sets Message-ID: <008401c0428d$6a512a60$66e679a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Candice Uhlir" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 11:18 PM Subject: Waldron Punch Sets > What set would you guys suggest for 1/48 WW1 aircraft modeling....the > PRECISION PUNCH & DIE SET or SUB MINIATURE PUNCH & DIE SET? And what is the > difference, just size?? > > Candice > 1 - recommend BOTH 2 - size - different 3 - price - you won't believe it. DB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:21:33 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Alabtros Pub "von Richtofen's Flying Circus" Message-ID: Hi, Can anyone comment on this book? I am looking for a good, comprehensive book that has a lot of photos for reference and a lot of color schemes in it. I have the Harleyfords, so I am looking more for markings than plans and reference photos. I have heard that these Alabatros pubs are supposed to be good, but only have a couple of Datafiles to go by. Any comments would be welcome. Thanks in advance! Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:40:48 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Alabtros Pub "von Richtofen's Flying Circus" Message-ID: John says: " I am looking for a good, comprehensive book that has a lot of photos for reference and a lot of color schemes in it." That's the book, then. A section on each of the four Jastas, a lot of profiles and photos. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:56:02 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Alabtros Pub "von Richtofen's Flying Circus" Message-ID: <200010301712.JAA18372@mail.rapidnet.net> The book is great, get it.... however. . . for the most colour schemes in colour I would say get my CD. Bob ---------- >From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Alabtros Pub "von Richtofen's Flying Circus" >Date: Mon, Oct 30, 2000, 8:34 am > > > Hi, > Can anyone comment on this book? I am looking for a good, comprehensive > book that has a lot of photos for reference and a lot of color schemes in > it. I have the Harleyfords, so I am looking more for markings than plans > and reference photos. I have heard that these Alabatros pubs are supposed > to be good, but only have a couple of Datafiles to go by. Any comments > would be welcome. Thanks in advance! > > Regards, > John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:01:26 GMT From: "Jared Anthony Zichek" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Curtiss Model T (Wanamaker Triplane Model 3) Message-ID: Hi all, De-lurking for a moment to ask a question regarding the above. Does anyone have a 3-view of this immense flying boat? It was designed by the same guy who designed the Curtiss America, only it was much bigger. I have copies of a WW 1 Aero article by Jack Bruce and from the Putnam book on Curtiss regarding the Model T, but neither of these has any drawings. Can anyone help? Also, does anyone have any info or impressions regarding the Curtiss Museum in Hammondsport? Any contact info? Thanks, Jared Zichek _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:02:32 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Alabtros Pub "von Richtofen's Flying Circus" Message-ID: << I am looking for a good, comprehensive book that has a lot of photos for reference and a lot of color schemes in it. >> Over two dozen colour profiles, another dozen or so in black-and-white, and about 180 photos, many of them not seen anywhere else. It is expensive, but cant complain about the amount of good stuff in there. Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:11:44 EST From: NodalPoint@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Reporting a miracle Message-ID: <7e.c381529.272f05d0@aol.com> In a message dated 10/30/2000 10:08:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, wolfchen@netpolicy.com writes: << (extra points to the person who can tell me what Old Star Trek episode quote I'm parodying.... ) >> Sharon, "Brain and brain! What is brain?" From the Episode Spock's Brain. Worst (or best?) episode ever. Steve (It's just one of those things that sticks in your mind and takes the place of some information that may actually be usefull. Like, where did I leave the car keys?) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:19:53 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Reporting a miracle Message-ID: <200010301719.JAA17248@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:17:32 -0500 (EST), NodalPoint@aol.com wrote: > "Brain and brain! What is brain?" From the Episode Spock's Brain. No, isn't it "brain, brain, brain, brain, Brain! "? :-) Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2763 **********************