WWI Digest 2759 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: FE2b Question by smperry@mindspring.com 2) Re: FE2b Question by Ernest Thomas 3) RE: CC Info and the internet by "Gaston Graf" 4) Re: FE2b Question by MAnde72343@aol.com 5) Need some Jenny parts by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 6) Cook-up e-mails by Marc Flake 7) Listmember query by Marc Flake 8) Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland by Todd Hayes 9) Re: Listmember query by Ernest Thomas 10) RE: Bad review of HiTech Roland - cc fraud by "Ray Boorman" 11) Machine Guns by Todd Hayes 12) Re: Cook-up e-mails by Brent & Tina Theobald 13) Re: Machine Guns by smperry@mindspring.com 14) Post war use by smperry@mindspring.com 15) Re: Listmember query by "Mike Franklin" 16) Re: FE2b Question by "DAVID BURKE" 17) Re: HiTech Roland by "DAVID BURKE" 18) Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland by KarrArt@aol.com 19) Re: Machine Guns by MAnde72343@aol.com 20) Re: Machine Guns by "Matt Bittner" 21) Re: RE: CC Info and the internet by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 22) Toko in the Ukraine and the America Program by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 23) Gliding Static DR. I by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 24) Re: HiTech Roland by Ernest Thomas 25) Re: Toko in the Ukraine and the America Program by MAnde72343@aol.com 26) RE: Gliding Static DR. I by "Gaston Graf" 27) Re DH2-help by "Neil Crawford" 28) Engines by Todd Hayes 29) Re: Engines by "Matt Bittner" 30) Re: Machine Guns by "DAVID BURKE" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:58:27 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: FE2b Question Message-ID: <003901c041c9$75d68980$b5f2aec7@default> One advantage to that arrangement was excellent ,for the day, communication between gunner & pilot. With much of the engine noise blown away behind them and nearly face to face, communication & coordination were quite possible. Perhaps this is why Fee's proved more dangerous than they looked. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:10:00 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FE2b Question Message-ID: <39FC59E8.A7FFFCDD@bellsouth.net> smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > One advantage to that arrangement was excellent ,for the day, communication > between gunner & pilot. With much of the engine noise blown away behind them > and nearly face to face, communication & coordination were quite possible. > Perhaps this is why Fee's proved more dangerous than they looked. I wonder how often the pilot would reach up and grab the gunner to try and keep him from falling out? E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:14:20 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: CC Info and the internet Message-ID: I can add the following to the credit card discussion: Friends of us recently had quite a high sum of money debited from their VISA account. As they complained at their bank the bank found out that at the same time somebody tried to debit even higher sums from Turkey, (while the poeple was in Luxemubrg indeed), using their VISA card info. They was able to track down the data leack to a shopping center in Trier, which is in Germany not far from the Luxemburgish border where the couple went for shopping like most Luxemburgers do. So just normal shopping in any store may lead to misusage of your data anyway. I personally never send credit card info by email but prefer to phone of fax in the data. I often order software over the internet but only shop at serious online stores offering secure connections. Also, to avoid misusage of my credit card info, I arranged with my bank to have a sub-account of my VISA account with a very small credit line of only 200$. The restricted limit never will allow people to debit high sums from that account and I am using that account for online shopping only. sincerely Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Zulis@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 4:48 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: CC Info and the internet > > > Bob writes: > > << As for giving out your CC, how do you know that the waiter at the last > restaurant you went to didn't copy it? >> > > I agree with Bob completely on this one. Every time your credit card > leaves your hand you are taking the same type of risk - the only > difference > is that we have become used to it. > > That being said, I do take one, small precaution when I send my > information > by email. If people steal this information, they may have tapped into > communications using software that scans for keywords - such as "VISA", > "MASTERCARD" etc... > I delete these words from the email (including any cut and paste portion > which might include them from the seller) and provide my " WISA " card > number. The recipient, without exception, has always assumed > this was a > typo and thought nothing of it, but I am confident that I am > avoiding keyword > scanning by hi-tech weasels. > > I have bought at least 50 items by using my credit card on the > internet and > have not had a single problem thus far. > > Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 12:13:52 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FE2b Question Message-ID: Crazier yet, by more recent standards, the Lewis had two (or sometimes more) mountings, and the gunner would move the gun from mount to mount as needed, so he didn't even have the gun to hold on to "big brass ones" indeed. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 13:31:45 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Need some Jenny parts Message-ID: Hey all: I am restoring SP's Curtiss N-9, and am in need of the tail surfaces - stabilizer and rudder - and perhaps as many interwing struts as I can lay hands on (12 total needed, also cabanes). While I can carve the struts, I only have one Jenny kit, with plans of making it a Jenny. If any of you were gathering up the three Jenny kits you need to do this conversion - which means you have at least 2 extra tail sets - I would be really happy if I could get them from you. Contact me off-list on this - TIA Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 12:33:31 -0600 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Cook-up e-mails Message-ID: <39FC6D7B.4DFD@airmail.net> cameron rile wrote: <> cam: Would it be feasible to share some of the emails the cook-up site has received? I'm just kind of curious what the non-WW1 listers are saying about it. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 12:35:47 -0600 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Listmember query Message-ID: <39FC6E03.45AB@airmail.net> Anyone heard from Listmember Mike Franklin lately? I'm kinda worried about him. He had mentioned several weeks ago that he had a serious illness. The past few emails I've sent have gone unanswered. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:10:27 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland Message-ID: <20001029191027.95289.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> Bob, It would be alot easier to prosecute him for theft. TH --- Bob Pearson wrote: > If you don't want to send your CC number, then mail > them an IMO . . doing so > I still get my Pegasus stuff in under two weeks. > > As for giving out your CC, how do you know that the > waiter at the last > restaurant you went to didn't copy it? > > Bob > > ---------- > > > Todd says: > > > > Yeah, I know I have bought several directly from > BM. > > It's just that I have mixed emotions about giving > out > > CC info via the internet or to foreign countries. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 13:24:48 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Listmember query Message-ID: <39FC797F.94ECAA56@bellsouth.net> Marc Flake wrote: > Anyone heard from Listmember Mike Franklin lately? I'm kinda worried > about him. He had mentioned several weeks ago that he had a serious > illness. The past few emails I've sent have gone unanswered. I talked with him briefly last week. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:35:19 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: Bad review of HiTech Roland - cc fraud Message-ID: Since its coming up for that time of year, I thought it might be wise to give some feedback on this. Recently in Vancouver a ring was broken up who were creating fake cards. The machines they used to use to swipe the cards were quite large. (You have to pass the card though a special track reader to get the info off of it). The ring who were caught in vancouver had pager sized readers! So the best advise that all the credit card issuers are giving is never let the card out of your sight and definately dont let it be swiped through multiple machines for one purchase. As Bob said it could be the part time waiter who snags your card but he would not be the one to use it. Therefore you will have no clue how they got the information, making it next to impossible to prosecute someone for theft. With Pegasus/BM I always phone my info through. Just in case anyone was wondering my background is with banking systems, that is why I know about this stuff. Ray -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Todd Hayes Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 11:17 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland Bob, It would be alot easier to prosecute him for theft. TH --- Bob Pearson wrote: > If you don't want to send your CC number, then mail > them an IMO . . doing so > I still get my Pegasus stuff in under two weeks. > > As for giving out your CC, how do you know that the > waiter at the last > restaurant you went to didn't copy it? > > Bob > > ---------- > > > Todd says: > > > > Yeah, I know I have bought several directly from > BM. > > It's just that I have mixed emotions about giving > out > > CC info via the internet or to foreign countries. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:46:22 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Machine Guns Message-ID: <20001029194622.23688.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> I'm interested in seeing opinions of list members on mg's and manufacturers. What are your preferences and why? All scales please. Todd Hayes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 13:58:31 -0600 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cook-up e-mails Message-ID: <39FC8167.D1969DB4@airmail.net> Howdy! I'd be interested in seeing what non-list members have to say about our cook-up. Has the cook-up attracted any new listees?? Later! Brent > cameron rile wrote: > < is doing that so far.>> > > cam: > > Would it be feasible to share some of the emails the cook-up site has > received? I'm just kind of curious what the non-WW1 listers are saying > about it. > > Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:12:10 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Machine Guns Message-ID: <006301c041e4$85e37840$b5f2aec7@default> > I'm interested in seeing opinions of list members on > mg's and manufacturers. What are your preferences and > why? All scales please. > > Todd Hayes Vickers: Rosemont resin in 1:72 &1/48 CSM in 1:28 Lewis: Any decent resin, Rosemont in 1:72 are good. Spandau: Toms or CSM PE Toms makes 1/72 as well as 1/48. Vickers out of PE just aren't worth the extra work to roll compared to a painted and washed resin or metal piece. Least not till you get int the 1:28 size. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:14:21 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Post war use Message-ID: <006901c041e4$d3e62c40$b5f2aec7@default> Were any Aviatek Berg D-1's or HB D.1s used post 1918 in continuing eastern european unpleasantness otherwise called the RCW? sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 12:16:28 -0800 From: "Mike Franklin" To: Subject: Re: Listmember query Message-ID: <000a01c041e5$2236b220$1cecfc9e@picker> Hello All, I'm still alive, just. I've been having some serious heart problems, (unstable angina). The doctors want to do some procedures, (an Angiogram and possible Angioplasty or bypass surgery) but my blood chemistry is also all screwed up. The kidneys are not working properly because I have taken too much Ibuprofen to ease the pain from my severe degenerative joint disorder, (both of my hips are shot). The docs can't do anything for my heart until my blood is somewhat back to normal or the kidneys will fail completely. Also, the meds I'm taking to stabilize my heart has caused bleeding from the retina into the vitreous (inside) of my left eye. I can only see through one eye, so no modeling or anything that requires depth perception. So, I'm taking a pretty slow pace for now. I'm still teaching music, composing, and working on some more decal projects for Dale Beamish, but that's about it. All of this is the results of severe Testosterone Poisoning as a lad. Youth, arrogance, and motorcycles are a dangerous combination. Marc, I mailed your SPAD and St*** decals Friday, USPS Priority Mail. Mike Franklin Bellingham, WA USA "No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit" ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Flake To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 10:46 AM Subject: Listmember query > Anyone heard from Listmember Mike Franklin lately? I'm kinda worried > about him. He had mentioned several weeks ago that he had a serious > illness. The past few emails I've sent have gone unanswered. > > Marc > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 12:32:52 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: FE2b Question Message-ID: <004501c041e6$2e36ca00$7390aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 11:21 AM Subject: Re: FE2b Question > Crazier yet, by more recent standards, the Lewis had two (or sometimes more) > mountings, and the gunner would move the gun from mount to mount as needed, > so he didn't even have the gun to hold on to "big brass ones" indeed. > Merrill > No Foolin? I thought that it mounted 2 Lewis guns, but I guess that if they wanted to hang ordinance on it and save a bit of weight, it would make sense. As to the front guy's cojones, I reckon that big brass ones would be a severe liability in the case of going inverted. They probably looked for guys with two velcro-like ones than big & brassy. Or not. DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 14:23:21 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: HiTech Roland Message-ID: <004601c041e6$2f10fd60$7390aec7@com> From: "Sandy Adam" > > Thanks DB!! You saved me $40! As the Roland D-II is one > > of my favs, I was going to order one ....... > > Well done DB! It's nice to be appreciated! > John - have a look at the HiTech Breguet or Roland for yourself. > I think they are excellent value and recommend both highly. > Let us know what YOU think when you see one. That's what I said. Gee Whiz, you really don't comprehend much of what you read, do you? You see, the POINT of reading is to try and assimilate the information that the other person is trying to get across. IT IS A NICE KIT. I said that so many times yesterday and the night before, but Brainiac here would rather take offense at any less than glowing mention of his brother-in-law's company. What of my complaint on price? Dealt with. It appears to be MMD's problem. > Despite DB's insult < No, that was called wit - DB> I have no connection with HiTech except as a satisfied > customer. I dunno, that sort of defensiveness is usually reserved for family connections - you sure your uncle isn't on the Board at Hi-Tech? >(I have never looked at their jets, which I have heard elsewhere > may be dreadful - but the WWI stuff is right on the money IMHO.) Oh My Sweet (insert deity here) - this is almost an acquiescence! My goodness! > > BTW, If you want an inexpensive Roland, the Sierra vac makes a nice model. I would not be surprised as I have a Sierra vac kit, and it is pretty nice. Also, Sierra has a nice selection of real esoteric stuff - I wanna do a Phoenix as they are some of the ugliest dinosaur-looking things that ever flew. Personally, I think that the only reason that Phoenix fighters flew was that they were so ugly that even gravity didn't want 'em! > (Oh dammit - it must be crap though, since it doesn't have a friggin riggin > diagram!) O.K. Sandy, you asked for it - you really did. You shot your own arguement down by your little ol' lonesome when you sneered at my disappointment over the lack of a rigging diagram. Look spunky, I don't know what kind of crap you're buying, but I would be HARD-PRESSED to find a SINGLE kit in my closet that has no rigging diagram (excluding armor, cars, jets - you get the idea). For the love of the creeping crud, Classic Airframes makes some of the crappiest kits around (Good subjects, lots of detail that doesn't want to fit, astronomical prices, sloppy engineering), but ALL of the kits that I have seen of their bipe stuff (let's see, I own most of them) have rigging diagrams! ALL of my Eduard kits and DML kits make reference to the rigging. What was your reply to me? Buy a Datafile! O.K. you silly man, FIRST you castigate me as a fool over the price because you are able to get the kit for $25 over there and I paid $40. Boy, you sure let into me on that one. So because of the kit NEGLECTING to include information because the company is too flipping S L O P P Y to do so, I must then go and get a $15-20 Datafile to get the info I require to build a complete model from the kit I bought. Do the math, Bright Boy. You are now $5 over what I paid. Add the replacement guns. Another $5.00. What was your response? About how CSM is over-priced and is of comparable quality to Hi-Tech. By this time, I had you confirmed as a total looney. And Buddy, I'll bet your booger farm that I own a hell of a lot more CSM kits than you do, and they ALL have rigging diagrams! On top of it all, you are STILL convinced that I said that the kit was crap. I never said that. Say I did and you are a Damnable liar and a poultroon, and not fit company for scabies mites and crab lice! Would you like a recap of what I said, you obviously disoriented man? The Kit was Nicely Done - with the exception of undersized guns, and a minor handling mark on the Hor.Stab. I'm gonna replace the struts. The Kit was TOO DAMNED EXPENSIVE - but that has been explained and cleared up by explaining the U.S.-MMD connection, and that point was PUBLICLY conceded BY ME. Hi-Tech is confusing in the differing qualities of kits that I have purchased by them. Again, the high price was explained. I felt that there should have been more to the Bre.14 kit, and the Mystere was a poor kit. This one is nice, except for the previously-mentioned stuff. A tiny bit more attention to what they were doing would have resulted in a real grand slam of a kit. And Sandy, I even INCREASED your rating of the kit from an 8 of 10 to a 9 of 10. Funny how you missed mentioning that. And in the following, did you NOT read where I told John to buy one if he could get one for the price that you are bragging about? Huh? Did you also read where I said that I might buy another, if I can get it for the Magical Mystical Sandy price? No, you sneer at me 'Well Done, DB', as though my comments had just cost Hi-Tech their most critical sale and now the 3rd Quarter Profits are down, and now since the Family Business is going down and y'all are gonna have to live in cardboard boxes, it's all my fault. O.K. You might be one of 'Them' who don't like to complain: 'Oh Dear, there are no wings in this box - we can't complain , or we'd lose face. Best not to think about it'. Not me, Buster. I call 'em like I see 'em. The obligation that this company has to me is this: Give me what I need to know to do the kit up right. Maybe you are satisfied that a careless oversight compells you to spend more money to get the job done - not me. You wanna imply that I'm a sissy because I don't want to have to buy extra info to rig my plane? Then you're a punk who bent over with no complaints - and brought your own Vaseline to the party, to boot (you probably have lots of $70 dollar 'Profi' Albatrosses too). For crying out loud, the kit has PE, resin, and white metal. I would expect it to show me where to add the string to get it to look right; they went that far, why not the extra inch that I have come to expect from significantly lower-tech kits? I said it's sloppy, and that's what it is - Alpha, meet Omega. Gee, it's a nice day outside.... DB Who, BTW, deleted most of the real insults. Decorum, Gentlemen, Decorum! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:51:29 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland Message-ID: <4a.cc00db4.272de7d1@aol.com> In a message dated 10/28/00 10:44:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, bpearson@rapidnet.net writes: << If you don't want to send your CC number, then mail them an IMO . . doing so I still get my Pegasus stuff in under two weeks. As for giving out your CC, how do you know that the waiter at the last restaurant you went to didn't copy it? Bob >> Big deal in the local paper recently about all this stuff, full of charts, graphs and interviews. Given all the other forms of exposure one's CC number is open to, it turns out that internet transmission is about the safest way to go. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:58:31 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Machine Guns Message-ID: <3a.c22592e.272de977@aol.com> In order: Toms Modelworks, Rosemont Hobby, Aeroclub. IMNSHO all others are poor to awful, although I do have problems with 'oval' guns from Aeroclub, but it's only an occasional part, and the Rosemont Spandaus are only excellent if the jacket portions are cut off and replaced with PE, But, Rosemont's basic castings are beautifully detailed (and I like resin parts, light and easy to place). Lewis and Parabellum, Ditto. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:08:46 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Machine Guns Message-ID: <200010292108.NAA15036@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> I agree, that I tend to go with Rosemont. I have used three p/e sets for the Spandau's - Fotocut, CSM and Hawkeye. The Fotocut I feel is the most to scale, but it's so thin it's a little difficult to work with. CSM is the easiest to work with because it's thicker and made from "steel" (at least I think so). The Hawkeye brass was made by Fotocut, so see comment about them. Let me go one further - gun rings. I really like the Scarff and Nieuport rings the Flashback Strutters come with. So much so I obtained more p/e sets to finish not only the Toko kits, but other "non-Strutter" kits as well. However, I suspect they're the same as the Eduard ones recently released, since Eduard supplied the p/e in the Strutter kits - it's just I haven't seen the ones offered by Eduard separately. I have enough Strutter sets to not worry for a "few" kits. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:15:26 EST From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: RE: CC Info and the internet Message-ID: <26.c96073b.272ded6e@aol.com> I thought I'd offer a better English re-write for this Ukrainian scale model mnfr's Pfalz D XII. This is completely gratis since any one who is willing to enter the slow scale model market in the United States deserves all the help they can get. In order to do so, I'm wondering if someone could clarify the (German? Austro-Hungarian?) "America-program". According to the mfr's historical sketch the America Program called for the formation of forty new squadrons. I wonder if this means new fighter squadrons only or of all aeroplane types? (Seven to Eight Hundred Pf. D XII built?) Additionally, the sketch says that the Pfalz D XII had better flight characteristics then the Fokker D VII, but it could "not compete with the widely advertising (mostly among the pilots) planes of Anthony Fokker! Better than the D VII? Really? Any feedback will be much appreciated. Thanks, Steve diGiacomo stephendigiacomo@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:17:47 EST From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Toko in the Ukraine and the America Program Message-ID: <84.c988d4d.272dedfb@aol.com> Sorry, I didn't mean to send this material under the CC thread subject heading. I thought I'd offer a better English re-write for this Ukrainian scale model mnfr's Pfalz D XII. This is completely gratis since any one who is willing to enter the slow scale model market in the United States deserves all the help they can get. In order to do so, I'm wondering if someone could clarify the (German? Austro-Hungarian?) "America-program". According to the mfr's historical sketch the America Program called for the formation of forty new squadrons. I wonder if this means new fighter squadrons only or of all aeroplane types? (Seven to Eight Hundred Pf. D XII built?) Additionally, the sketch says that the Pfalz D XII had better flight characteristics then the Fokker D VII, but it could "not compete with the widely advertising (mostly among the pilots) planes of Anthony Fokker! Better than the D VII? Really? Any feedback will be much appreciated. Thanks, Steve diGiacomo stephendigiacomo@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:22:43 EST From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Gliding Static DR. I Message-ID: <91.2779a52.272def23@aol.com> To give an idea of the aerodynamic lift qualities of the Fokkr Dr. I (Triplane) I thought it would be of interest to tell about the time when I was a stupid kid and dropped my 1/28 scale model of one over the edge of a third floor porch. The static display, dead-weight model arighted itself and glided to a perfect landing! I was dumbfounded. If only the real ones always did so well. I don't recall attempting a repeatable data set. ~Steve diGiacomo (dee jòk-ah-moe) Windsor Locks, Connecticut stephendigiacomo@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:34:34 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: HiTech Roland Message-ID: <39FC97E9.549C9AB6@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > I must then go and get a > $15-20 Datafile to get the info I require to build a complete model from the > kit I bought. Awe, c'mon Dave. You would have bought the Datafile anyway. :-) Btw, you still gonna send me photocopies of the Aeroclub FE instructions? (my kit had NONE, for those who are about to accuse me and Dave of copyright violations) E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:54:24 EST From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Toko in the Ukraine and the America Program Message-ID: Sounds like Pfalz propaganda. The DXII was a typical Pfalz, sturdy, and predictable, but the only area where it could outperform the Fokker was in a dive, although IIRC, when equipped with the same engine (the 160 hp Mercedes) flight characteristics were said to be "similar", although climbing performance on the DXII was said to have been inferior, however top speeds in level flight and maneuverability were close, and (although there was a comment that the DXII took more effort on the ailerons) The Pfalz and the Fokker were close enough in performance, that they were flown together. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:09:10 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Gliding Static DR. I Message-ID: I made a similar experience with an 1/72 Matchbox Me-109E. As a boy I placed a certain quantity of glue onto to wings, set it on fire and dropped it with a windmilling prop from the 3rd storey where we lived, down to the sidewalk. It went down in a steep but stable glide and it really looked like an aircraft going down in flames. A thrilling view for a 10 year old. Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Stephendigiacomo@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 10:31 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Gliding Static DR. I > > > To give an idea of the aerodynamic lift qualities of the Fokkr Dr. I > (Triplane) I thought it would be of interest to tell about the > time when I > was a stupid kid and dropped my 1/28 scale model of one over the > edge of a > third floor porch. The static display, dead-weight model > arighted itself and > glided to a perfect landing! I was dumbfounded. If only the real ones > always did so well. I don't recall attempting a repeatable data set. > ~Steve diGiacomo (dee jòk-ah-moe) > Windsor Locks, Connecticut > stephendigiacomo@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:18:10 +0100 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: Re DH2-help Message-ID: <20001029221827.DRTQ24993.fep01-svc.swip.net@default> I used piano wire on my DH2, I think it is stainless steel, and Dave is right, it was a hassle. The problem was that neither glue nor paint would bite on it. I solved this by using epoxy, and wooden struts, and then I covered the wire with black microscale solid decal, which clung to it very well. I was very pleased with the result, and it is surprisingly strong. Its on my page at the model gallery if you want to see it. This method has an advantage in that you can do very easy "paint-chipping" on the decal covered steel. Best regards Neil ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- The DH2 booms were round. Also, use the kit-supplied jig to measure their length. You can use styrene rod, but brass or aluminum tubing would be stronger. Stainless tubing would be needlessly harder to play with. Enjoy the DH2! It's my favorite Blue Max kit! DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 14:24:29 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Engines Message-ID: <20001029222429.6430.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> We're starting to get opinions about the MG's. Now how about engines? Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:27:59 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Engines Message-ID: <200010292227.OAA10032@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:28:06 -0500 (EST), Todd Hayes wrote: > We're starting to get opinions about the MG's. Now > how about engines? Rosemont again, although they still haven't released an 80 nor a 110 hp LeRhone (hint!). Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:27:15 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Machine Guns Message-ID: <002201c041f7$b734eb00$eb85aec7@com> For 1/28 and 1/48, I can little else but offer my buddy Eric Hight's products (that being Copper State Models). Unparalleled quality in PE and resin, and the guns are kits unto themselves. sp brought up a good point: Vickers guns are a PITA unless they are done in Big Scale. DB ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2759 **********************