WWI Digest 2756 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland by KarrArt@aol.com 2) Pfalz D XII by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 3) Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 4) Re: Veeday = Merlin?? by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 5) Re: Camels&Rolands by "DAVID BURKE" 6) Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland by "DAVID BURKE" 7) Re: Camels&Rolands by "DAVID BURKE" 8) Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland by "DAVID BURKE" 9) Re: New Orleans n the news by "DAVID BURKE" 10) Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland by "DAVID BURKE" 11) Re: Veeday = Merlin?? by Zulis@aol.com 12) Re: Pfalz D XII by MAnde72343@aol.com 13) Re: Camels&Rolands by MAnde72343@aol.com 14) Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 15) Re: Pfalz D XII Why brass and Thanks by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 16) Re: New Orleans n the news by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 17) OT Question - Reply Off list by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 18) Limited Production Kits by MAnde72343@aol.com 19) Re: Pfalz D XII Why brass and Thanks by MAnde72343@aol.com 20) Re: New Orleans n the news by MAnde72343@aol.com 21) Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland by "DAVID BURKE" 22) Re: New Orleans n the news by "DAVID BURKE" 23) Re: Limited Production Kits by "DAVID BURKE" 24) Re: New Orleans n the news by "DAVID BURKE" 25) Re: OOB Hi_Tech Roland Review by pugs99@att.net 26) Re: OOB Hi_Tech Roland Review by "DAVID BURKE" 27) Re: OOB Hi_Tech Roland Review by Todd Hayes 28) RE: Pfalz D XII by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:08:06 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland Message-ID: <20.d3c141b.272c61f6@aol.com> In a message dated 10/28/00 6:31:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, janah@worldnet.att.net writes: << We might even live long enough to see that ProModeler Stakken? Regards, John Cyg. >> Yeah- but I'll be completely blind by the time I'm 217 years old....although maybe by then you'll be able to walk into any supermarket and get a free pair of disposable eyes in a box of cereal. RK (enjoying a wet drizzly day....painting up a storm....maybe one day, I'll build another model) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:12:04 EDT From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Pfalz D XII Message-ID: <38.d3fd536.272c62e4@aol.com> Should the cowling and grill be brass color or the grill only with ? color for the cowling - if cowling is the correct word? Thanks, Steve diGiacomo Windsor Locks, CT ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:16:15 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland Message-ID: <000c01c04102$c83dfea0$aa39183f@cyrixp166> Folks, the operative difference here is that Robert doesn't need to wait. Cyg. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 1:15 PM Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland > In a message dated 10/28/00 6:31:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > janah@worldnet.att.net writes: > > << We might even live long enough to see > that ProModeler Stakken? > > Regards, > John Cyg. >> > > Yeah- but I'll be completely blind by the time I'm 217 years old....although > maybe by then you'll be able to walk into any supermarket and get a free pair > of disposable eyes in a box of cereal. > RK > (enjoying a wet drizzly day....painting up a storm....maybe one day, I'll > build another model) > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:21:10 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Veeday = Merlin?? Message-ID: <001201c04103$77a78af0$aa39183f@cyrixp166> An interesting topic in and of itself. We are scattered all over the globe and the libel laws of our respective countries are very different. This is a public forum a place that is meant for discussion of WWI modeling & related issues. UNH should be covered by the disclaimer under US law. I am not sure there is any "controling legal authority" here in cyberspace. Sorry to Al Gore Fans, Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Boorman To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: RE: Veeday = Merlin?? > oops, sheesh, I meant that post to only go to Merrill. Darn I hit reply and > of course it went to the list. So my appologies on posting to the list. > Ray > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > David C. Fletcher > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 9:36 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Veeday = Merlin?? > > > Ray Boorman wrote: > > "...one story I heard was Veeday went bankrupt another said it went > bankrupt because the owener went to jail for making fake credit > cards..." > > Let's be careful here, troops; if you are not absolutely sure of the > story, then you could be leaving yourselves - and the list - open to > charges of slander. If someone has a documented statement to make > regarding any linkage between these companies, then by all means make it > - but stay away from the legal minefield of "I once heard...". > > Dave Fletcher > -- > Visit us at our Home Page: > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:54:13 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Camels&Rolands Message-ID: <000201c04104$fa7dd8c0$2be579a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 9:34 PM Subject: Re: Camels&Rolands > > > Todd Hayes wrote: > > > Michael Jackson owning the rights to the Beatles > > catalog is enough to make me puke on myself!! Can you > > imagine a Plastic Pervert Tour with Beatles tunes? > > > > TH > > - > > Well, he won't *change* them, he'd be stupid to do that. I guess what > bites is the thought that every time "Yesterday" plays, he gets a few > more dollars toward his next plastic surgery. Bet he winds up looking > like Elizabeth Taylor before he's done. > > Dan Apparently, MJ took all of the mirrors out of 'Neverland' because he can't stand to look at himself. How Karmically appropriate - now he knows how the rest of us feel! DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 12:19:10 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland Message-ID: <000401c04104$ffbb1820$2be579a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Adam" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 5:36 AM Subject: Bad review of HiTech Roland > > The Roland D.II .... > > In very short: the kits are too friggin' expensive! > > I'm blathering..... > > You certainly are! > Over here the Roland is 17.50GBP. Given the strength of the dollar against > the Franc (Euro) it should be even cheaper over there. If you buy it from > Hannants it'll cost you 25 bucks! (less tax, plus shipping) > If somebody is charging you 40 bucks then it is they that are too friggin > expensive. First of all, I'm pleased that the kits are cheaper there. Must be Karma's way of making up for the food. > > Let's rewrite the review and start off with a 25 dollar kit that includes > nicely moulded plastic, PE, metal, resin and decals. As already pointed out, > the engine is an absolute gem. ...All which I believe that I covered. > > "It's got no rigging diagram." Well big deal! How many kits do? Most of them. >You'll > likely be using refs like the DFanyway when you're building it so this would > probably be superfluous. ...so according to this, the kit cost increases by how much the Datafile costs. > > You compare CSM for replacement bits? Come off it! Eric makes very nice kits > too, but he's been crippled by suppliers' charges in the past and his older > kits are way too expensive. No arguement there, but his Spandau guns are quite reasonable, and are excellent replacements. Did you actually read what I wrote? The HiTech Roland here is less than ONE THIRD of > the price of the CSM SE5 (and in my opinion of similar quality.) O.K., I suggest that you go on full oxygen now! You get a Hell of alot more (and that is MORE) from CSM than you do with Hi-Tech!! >A fair > comparison for price is Flashback - they cost about the same here as the > Roland and give similar resin and PE, etc. HiTech plastic is better than the > older Flashbacks (W29 etc) not as good as latest (Taube, Berg). No arguement there. > > The HiTech Breguet and Roland are bargains. It appears that an importer in > the US is making a killing. Don't buy from them. Buy it mail order from > Europe and stop blaming a good manufacturer that is filling gaps with > excellent kits at good prices. Sandy, I respect that we have a difference of opinion here. As I said, there's good stuff in the box. And if it's really that cheap from Hannant's (and I will check), then MMD is doing something dirty. I mentioned the 3 kits I have bought by Hi-Tech. And I will say again, with no reservations, that the Mystere is a real disappointment, with passable resin and CRAPPY plastic. Jets aren't supposed to have a fabric texture! As I said, I couldn't slam the Roland except for the price. And if the price is a U.S. thing, then poor U.S. I have also bought other things from Hi-Tech, such as their Dr.1 set. It was the worst waste of money I ever spent. The resin surfaces were cast out of extremely poor resin. It was like they ran out of resin and substituted oatmeal and dog vomit - the set turned to powder on me! So consider that I am not merely pontificating from my posterior orifice. I have bought Hi-Tech, I have used Hi-Tech, and I spent my clams on it again. I compare this to the current status quo. The kit is good - the money ain't. And again, if that's MMD's fault, so be it. > Rating for kit - 8 out of 10 Nope. 9 out of 10 - considering the fact that you will want to replace the guns and interplane struts. And no diagram for rigging. The rest of the stuff looks really good as I said before. > Rating for review - 1 out of 10. Rating for actually reading review and getting the point - <0 DB Sorry for dogging a company which you apparently hold stock in. nl: Bill Cosby - 'Why Is There Air'? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:56:25 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Camels&Rolands Message-ID: <000301c04104$feea0c80$2be579a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Thomas" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 1:26 AM Subject: Re: Camels&Rolands > > > Tom Solinski wrote: > > > Did you ever notice that no one ever shouts > > Good Buddha, People!!! > > or > > Good Mohamed, People!!! > > or > > Good Satan, People!!! > > GREAT CEASAR'S GHOST!!! > You're right! > > So I'm about to start on the Eduard Roland Profi. If it builds anything > like the Alb D-III, I should be finished it in about 20min. > E. > UNHOLY CTHULU! I haven't seen the Profi yet - how's the PE? DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 12:20:48 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland Message-ID: <000501c04105$01dbd540$2be579a5@com> > Maybe since the other "warbirds" have been done to death interest is now > turning to our subject? Who knows? We might even live long enough to see > that ProModeler Stakken? > > Regards, > John Cyg. > John, I will drink HEAVILY to that! DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 12:21:21 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: New Orleans n the news Message-ID: <000601c04105$0283ae00$2be579a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Thomas" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 9:10 AM Subject: Re: New Orleans n the news > > > smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > > > I saw this headline on the AIM news ticker: > > > > New Orleans Patients Exposed to Rare Brain Disease > > Yep. Can you imagine? You go in for a surgery and find out that you've > been exposed to a fatal brain desease. > So my trip to PHX fell through at the airport. I'm so bummed. > Oh well, taking the kids to the airshow today. Henry's first. > E. > What happened Ern? DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 12:26:10 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland Message-ID: <000701c04105$032b86c0$2be579a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 10:07 AM Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland > On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 08:56:45 -0400 (EDT), Dan wrote: > > > Apparently not. Looking at the greatmodels.com page, I saw the Hi-Tech planes > > were around $25 - $30. > > Maybe they too have come to realise the problems with MMD, and have > also looked for another source. > > > Matt Bittner > Again, if MMD is the problem, then I have a problem with MMD. So I relieve Hi-Tech for that and publicly retract my pricing complaints. IIRC, I said alot of nice stuff about the kit. As far as quality goes from other stuff that I bought, then that's my experience as a consumer. And also for their lack of quality control, which I personally experienced. If anybody is afraid that what I said will cause Hi-Tech to switch from OT subjects to 1-oh-Thingies, then I think you're being paranoid. Or Not. DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:42:50 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Veeday = Merlin?? Message-ID: <26.c8b6268.272c6a1a@aol.com> << An interesting topic in and of itself. We are scattered all over the globe and the libel laws of our respective countries are very different. This is a public forum a place that is meant for discussion of WWI modeling & related issues. UNH should be covered by the disclaimer under US law. I am not sure there is any "controling legal authority" here in cyberspace >> I dont worry much about libel laws and the list - I mean, try and prove that the person who posted under "zulis" is actually who he says he is - but I take absolutely no chances at all with anything that could get Allan in trouble with his employers who allow us this little forum, and I know the rest of the list members feel the same. DZ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:49:10 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pfalz D XII Message-ID: <16.41807d0.272c6b96@aol.com> According to what I've read, and photos I've seen, the radiator portion is unpainted brass, but the radiator 'shell' is aluminum, and should therefore be silver or painted, but, that's just my opinion, and I'm right less than half the time. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:53:30 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Camels&Rolands Message-ID: Don't start dragging Lovecraft into this, even if Halloween is near, (anyway, Isn't that the one whose name is never to be uttered?) Supposedly, the whole list will suffer, and I've suffered enough, thank you. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:52:46 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland Message-ID: <001401c04107$e2297c40$b039183f@cyrixp166> Oh! As if you need an Excuse! :-) Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: DAVID BURKE To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 1:45 PM Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland > > Maybe since the other "warbirds" have been done to death interest is now > > turning to our subject? Who knows? We might even live long enough to see > > that ProModeler Stakken? > > > > Regards, > > John Cyg. > > > > John, > > I will drink HEAVILY to that! > > DB > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:11:05 EDT From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pfalz D XII Why brass and Thanks Message-ID: <92.bb649ae.272c70b9@aol.com> Thanks, Merrill. By the way, this kit is Toko's 1/72 scale kit. I'm pleased with it's detail and molding. It isn't an Eduard, but it looks like it will go together well enough. I'll see. Why brass radiators? Did these hold up well to the heat? Cheers, Steve diGiacomo Windsor Locks, CT In a message dated 10/28/2000 5:53:55 PM, MAnde72343@aol.com writes: << According to what I've read, and photos I've seen, the radiator portion is unpainted brass, but the radiator 'shell' is aluminum, and should therefore be silver or painted, but, that's just my opinion, and I'm right less than half the time. Merrill >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:11:00 EDT From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Orleans n the news Message-ID: <79.b5c7a54.272c70b4@aol.com> In a message dated 10/28/00 9:07:20 AM EST, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << Yep. Can you imagine? You go in for a surgery and find out that you've been exposed to a fatal brain desease. >> How perfectly N'Awlins. :-) TC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:07:25 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: OT Question - Reply Off list Message-ID: <000b01c04109$ee370c30$b039183f@cyrixp166> I was in a hobby shop recently and saw that someone has released 1/48 scale injection Ju-87A. Can somebody give me more details? Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:15:47 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Limited Production Kits Message-ID: <36.d3bd34e.272c71d3@aol.com> I've been guilty of bashing limited production kits myself, and have been frustrated and disappointed many times by careless production work, or worse, bad research, followed by wretched workmanship. The some-Tech Bre 14 is a challenge, but it beats scratch building, at least for me, innate cowardice or laziness slows scratch projects, usually until someone releases a kit: (two examples, the Dolphin scratch I started, and the MOS AI I nearly completed). (It was worse when I was doing armor.) In almost all cases, our disappointments have been over relatively repairable shortcomings, not 'toxic waste' kits (although I have a couple in that category, I'd burn them to watch the stuff sizzle, but I can't afford the environmental fines) but what I'm trying to say is most (an overwhelming percentage) are honest efforts to produce a presentable product, and the crueler comments are out of line, however cute. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:20:42 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pfalz D XII Why brass and Thanks Message-ID: <33.bfc69c5.272c72fa@aol.com> Almost all the radiators (cars, trucks, tanks and planes) of that era were brass, (probably for anti rust reasons, as well as brass' ductility, which allows easy 'drawing' into thin tubes) but most were painted black (probably so they wouldn't have to be polished). Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:30:43 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Orleans n the news Message-ID: <44.871d427.272c7553@aol.com> Maw, proper 'Awlins style, is you start to party, and wake up, months or years later, in the hospital, to find you've had brain surgery (and if your luck is really weird, several odd body piercing, some tattoos, and maybe a sex change) Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:27:32 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland Message-ID: <001b01c0410e$3f41d340$9ce479a5@com> You got it, Bub! DB ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 1:03 PM Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland > Oh! As if you need an Excuse! :-) > > Cyg. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: DAVID BURKE > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 1:45 PM > Subject: Re: Bad review of HiTech Roland > > > > > Maybe since the other "warbirds" have been done to death interest is now > > > turning to our subject? Who knows? We might even live long enough to > see > > > that ProModeler Stakken? > > > > > > Regards, > > > John Cyg. > > > > > > > John, > > > > I will drink HEAVILY to that! > > > > DB > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:31:25 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: New Orleans n the news Message-ID: <001c01c0410e$400b3dc0$9ce479a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 1:17 PM Subject: Re: New Orleans n the news > In a message dated 10/28/00 9:07:20 AM EST, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: > > << > Yep. Can you imagine? You go in for a surgery and find out that you've > been exposed to a fatal brain desease. >> > > How perfectly N'Awlins. :-) > > TC It's that river water they drink - a petrochemical stew with more side effects than Owsley's finest! I mean, the fact that the Saints are doing good is supposed to make your head swell, but a brain disease? DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:38:18 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Limited Production Kits Message-ID: <001d01c0410e$40d4a840$9ce479a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 1:24 PM Subject: Limited Production Kits > I've been guilty of bashing limited production kits myself, and have been > frustrated and disappointed many times by careless production work, or worse, > bad research, followed by wretched workmanship. The some-Tech Bre 14 is a > challenge, but it beats scratch building, at least for me, innate cowardice > or laziness slows scratch projects, usually until someone releases a kit: > (two examples, the Dolphin scratch I started, and the MOS AI I nearly > completed). (It was worse when I was doing armor.) > In almost all cases, our disappointments have been over relatively repairable > shortcomings, not 'toxic waste' kits (although I have a couple in that > category, I'd burn them to watch the stuff sizzle, but I can't afford the > environmental fines) but what I'm trying to say is most (an overwhelming > percentage) are honest efforts to produce a presentable product, and the > crueler comments are out of line, however cute. > Merrill I'd agree with that too. And now that I see that MMD has jacked the price, then I'd have to say that this is a nice little kit. The Br.14 IS nice, but I wish that there was more to it and that the bomb bay door was better represented. But I look forward to it too - it was also expensive, but I got it thru - yep- Squadron/MMD. I never said that the kit was 'toxic waste'. My negative reaction was based on 2 things: the fact that the instructions negated the rigging instructions, and the price issue which was resolved. And if it's as cheap elsewhere as I have been advised, then I just might get another one! DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:39:26 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: New Orleans n the news Message-ID: <002501c0410e$674b2760$9ce479a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 1:34 PM Subject: Re: New Orleans n the news > Maw, proper 'Awlins style, is you start to party, and wake up, months or > years later, in the hospital, to find you've had brain surgery (and if your > luck is really weird, several odd body piercing, some tattoos, and maybe a > sex change) > Merrill > Yeah, you right!! LOL DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 18:46:38 +0000 From: pugs99@att.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OOB Hi_Tech Roland Review Message-ID: <20001028184638.GRRC4818.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Thanks DB!! You saved me $40! As the Roland D-II is one of my favs, I was going to order one, but frankly, have heard so many similar comments(ARE YOU LISTENING HI TECH??????)about their kits, that I think I'll pass on this one until I see it at a show for $15 or $20!! I've said it before, company's should not be rewarded simply because of the "none of the big model co's will make these..." mentality. If they delivered hi-tech(pun intended)than I would probably buy it!! I'll wait until Eric or BM or Spin or maybe Eduard???? does one. At leat with any of these that I have seen, my money is well spent. Leave these so-called Hi Tech kits to the "just gotta have it" crowd... Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 15:20:04 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: OOB Hi_Tech Roland Review Message-ID: <000f01c0411c$77054e20$fe8eaec7@com> John Wrote: > Thanks DB!! You saved me $40! As the Roland D-II is one > of my favs, I was going to order one, but frankly, have > heard so many similar comments(ARE YOU LISTENING HI > TECH??????)about their kits, that I think I'll pass on > this one until I see it at a show for $15 or $20!! I've > said it before, company's should not be rewarded simply > because of the "none of the big model co's will make > these..." mentality. If they delivered hi-tech(pun > intended)than I would probably buy it!! First John, thanks. If what Sandy says is correct, and you can get it for $25, then get one. As I said before: It looks like a nice kit with some shortcomings. I said before that I was prepared to do a chop job on the kit and couldn't. It is really that nice! I don't want to turn anyone away from the kit - that wasn't my intent. The kit is good, but what it is going for is ludicrous. So, to repeat: 25 bucks? Buy one. DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:25:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OOB Hi_Tech Roland Review Message-ID: <20001028202510.66902.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Merrill, One thing I've noticed about Hi-Tech WW1 products in general is that they have deteriorated in quality recently. The first Fok. Dr.I detail set I bought was beautifully cast and cost over $10. I recently bought two more sets for about $7. They were poorer quality tha the first. I think mmd might have something to do with it. The price is lower but so is the quality. TH --- MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > I had big problems getting the cylinders to fit on > the crankcase, it's like > the 'holes' were too close, I had to 'relieve' the > crankcase holes to get the > cylinders to stand up straight, and that's after i > sanded down the cylinder > plumbing, which is too long, and all the rocker caps > broke off, and had to be > re glued, I just wish they had been more careful in > proofing the design, nice > work yes, but OUCH! > Merrill > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 06:45:07 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Pfalz D XII Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621BD5@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Steve asks: > Should the cowling and grill be brass color or the grill only > with ? color for the cowling - if cowling is the correct word? I have two colour closeup prints of D.2600/18 sitting beside me as I type. The entire radiator, including both the grill and the portion above the top of three radiator sections is brass. The two horizontal structural members and the extreme upper and lower ends of the vertical pieces of tubing look slightly greyer - close inspection shows this to be solder used in the construction. There is a manufacturers plate in the centre of the header tank portion at the top front, this plate is made of aluminium with black writing. Filler caps visible in the front opening (middle of the top section of the radiator) are also brass. Hope this helps Shane (Still looking for a chance to scan 400 photos and get them on the web) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). 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